How car tires drive deforestation | DW Documentary
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- čas přidán 22. 05. 2024
- Rainforests are sacrificed to provide the rubber used in tires, even though alternatives exist. 70% of the global rubber harvest goes to the tire industry, which must now meet new supply chain rules approved by the European Parliament in April 2024.
The rules are designed to ensure due diligence and corporate accountability. Once the law takes effect, manufacturers in the EU will need to show their tires do not contain natural rubber from deforested land. The likes of Continental and Michelin will be obliged to make their supply chains more transparent. This certification process poses a problem for producers. Most natural rubber is produced in Asia. The supply chains from rubber farmers through various intermediaries to Europe have, however, been largely nontransparent to date. Companies are therefore exploring alternative materials and methods.
Tire manufacturer Pirelli, for example, is working with sustainable producers in Thailand. Michelin is testing high-tech tires to increase the service life of its products. And Continental, in cooperation with a leading German research institute, is looking into a raw material that could act as a substitute: the Russian dandelion. If cultivated on a large scale in Europe, it could help offset the demand for natural rubber. In addition, discarded old tires could be retreaded, recycled, and put back on the market - instead of ending up on a landfill site. Is the industry having a genuine change of heart, or are these merely examples of greenwashing?
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It's everything. If we don't find way to make everything sustainable we gonna pay the price
there's so much microplastics in our balls
@@stephentrueman4843get it out!
The only way to do that is to REDUCE the amount we consume. Reduce, reduce, reduce!!!! Less work! Less cars! Less electronics! Let's go!
@@darinherrick9224 Fewer billionaires.
We, its not we. Its the gouvernement and people that make profit of it. We have nothing to say in this story
More public transportation less private, this would be a good starting point.
only trains and trams! no rubber needed
@@albex8484 Maglev.
@@albex8484 You still need it for emergency vehicles, people that live in rural areas, planes, bikes need them also agricultural vehicles. So yeah I agree trains and trams are the best option, but you cannot use them everywhere.
This would be barking up the wrong tree.
We need to change the way tyres are made, not the way we travel.
We need solutions, not back to the cave (or sardine tin mass travel experiences).
*Nothing beats individual transport: No reliance on 3d party services or T&Cs, independence from schedules and availability.*
@@demil3618 There are limits to growth, and if you want to preserve democracy you need to provide ability to travel to all people not just the elite that has money, individual transport is awesome but currently unsustainable, and more and more people are loosing the privilege to have one, not to say if developed countries catch up and they get cars in quantity that first world has it will be really unsustainable.
A wonderful journal work....
This is fantastic video
Nice documentary, but it could also have touched the whole idea of of governments striving for the existence of a better and more affordable public transportation system. My reasoning is that if we keep ourselves in the tires aspects of vehicles 40 people needing 80 tires could fit in a bus that only needs 4 tires.
we could walk but that's way too sane of an idea
@@stephentrueman4843 Radical
Heck nooo , I need to enjoy my luxury vehicle, the convenience and the privacy of having own car. Public transportation its own negatives... like public health,too much time taken which hurts one's productivity.
@@pietrojenkins6901 I don´t know where and how you live, but what sort of convenience would be too challenging to take the bus or a cab?
I´m certain there are places where there is plenty of work to be done and other places where you would never be able to cede a personal vehicle but striving for lower commuting times or supplying more transit routes isn´t a far cry from reality.
@@professionaltaxevader4638 here in backwards semi rural Alabama we don't have public transportation. Cabs are also expensive per mile for regular folks working retail jobs.
Rubber trees are the best for reforestatio n in Mindanao, the Philippines. Farmers doesn't have to wait long to generate income from rubber than from hardwood trees planted on denuded land.
restoring the forest to its original ecosystem is best in the long run. tax carbon by use and the rich will pay much more and distribute their taxes to the lower income people who use far fewer resources. wealth redistribution. then that farmer will only have to work a little.
An important aspect that was never mentioned in this excellent documentary is that the more agressive the acceleration, turning and braking, the greater the wear. Therefore if people are as concerned by the climate as we'd like to think they'll use their personal agency to drive as gently as possible as little as possible. As they did say in this presentation, everything marketing is BIGGER, MORE POWER, AGRESSIVE !!!
people who want to save their precious salary try to drive carefully... cars are expensive and getting new tires also. Some young people however want to brag and burn rubber.
I bike 🚲 all the time, yes in winter too, scrapped my car as not drive teens around which would have only of crippled them up! Great doc, I majored in Sylviculture and left my career over disgust of how things work in Québec, we live in a car culture, people use them like they are their legs then blame their liabilities to function on old age 😊 !
I was thinking that a guy had discovered synthetic rubber.... Wtf, had he died?!
very interesting thanks
Always a good spread of information.
Nature can be wonderful if we treated fair. Thank you for the information and your efforts maybe something good will come of this .
It's fascinating that the roots from a flower can be made to a type of rubber. It's great that Continental Tire is doing this innovative work. There was no mention of American companies like Firestone or Goodyear. Perhaps, they are looking for alternatives?
Lol Firestone supported a civil war to maintain their rubber plantations. They don't give af
Where else will they get the resources to make the tire. I want to know fr
What an innovative idea to take gently used tires and retread them!! If this were more widely available it could have the potential to greatly reduce the need for manufacturing so many new tires!
I thiught its all syntethic. Thanks for info.
no. if you want to feel miserable research the congo and king leopold of belgium and the rubber plantations. they cut off hands/feet of the locals for not meeting their rubber quota.
also research firestone tires and their rubber plantations. the more you know.. the worse you will feel.
The US military alone uses 48,000,000 litres of fuel per day...
World wide spendage is around 115.00.000 barrels a day.
One barrel is 156 liters - I think. Could be wrong.
That's at least 156×115.000.000 liters every day!
And some people doesn't believe that we can have an effect on climate.
Let’s look into how many tyres the automotive racing industry uses first. 👍
Them and aircraft.
Negligible
@@Gringohuevon you have statistics, or just a guess?
23:30 The unproductive land should be reforested and returned to nature.
Also, the latex is not sap!
Make cars expensive and public transport available and affordable.The problem will go out.
Or simply: Change the way tyres are made!
I wouldn't want to rely on 3rd party T&Cs, schedules, availability, fare structures, inflexibility etc.
Nothing beats individual transport and my vehicle uses used vegoil- a waste product from restaurants.
EVs "consume" tires more quickly, so the proliferation of EVs naturally means higher consumption of rubber and therefore demand for rubber. Good news if you're invested in the supply chain.
Thanks for this eye-opener, but i am eager to know why?
@@ecoideazventures6417 EVs are a lot heavier than ICE vehicles of equivalent size. This puts greater strain on the tires causing them to wear out more quickly. This is why the proliferation of EVs have been a boon for tire companies, its long been a growthless industry but now there's opportunities to market more expensive tires and cater to a new market that would repeat tire purchases more often.
At 14:43 I think you meant to use an image of the iconic Michelin Man, but inadvertently inserted an image of the Stay Puft Marshmallow Man from the 1984 movie Ghostbusters. Welcome comic relief from a depressing topic, I guess.
Otherwise, this an excellent documentary! Thank you for bringing this problem to more people's attention. Our dumb obsession with automobiles needs to die.
New rubber but we can not find ways to dispose the used tires. Same try to dispose them by creating coral reef base. They can't be recycled?
Electric vehicles are much heavier than petroleum vehicles, and are much harder on tires.
I read about that, they require tires intended heavier loads, that cost more but the general tire life is still significantly shorter.
The new alternative plant that produce rubber per the news also requires large land area to produce, but the problem will be the same - land clearance, that is not a sustainable/viable option.
Let's not forget that EVs wear out tires far faster than lighter conventional cars do.
because they have more power/torque. EVs aren't the problem, it's the performance tuning and driving habits. If they just put in torque limiters, problem solved.
We own two EVs. We run Toyo winter tires year around in Canada on both cars. The tires do not wear out differently than they did on our gasoline powered cars. In fact, I would say that they last longer since braking with EVs is most commonly done using regenerative braking.
Be cautious about the accuracy of what you read, be it on the Internet, or with print publications. A lot of the stuff I see about EVs is nonsense, not only about tire wear, but also about charging costs. This is because a lot of the people providing that “information” are not knowledgeable about EVs.
This said #1- we never charge the cars from 0% but instead from 20 or 30% to 80 to 100%. #2- We charge at home. Even if all you have is a 100 Amp electrical panel (200 Amp is better), the car can be charged at night when both the electricity rates are lower and there is less demand from your home. Finally, #3- Unless someone is driving 450 km (280 miles) a day, there is no reason to charge the car every day. Think about it, with a gasoline car do you top it off every day? From experience over the last 5 years, a full charge, from 0 to 100%, with either of our cars would cost only $7 to $8 Canadian. Indeed, recharging the cars has never cost us that much at home and the reality is that we aren’t able to identify a cost increase that can be clearly attributed to charging. This would not be the case with a gasoline powered car.
EVs are the future, irrespective of the type of batteries that will power them. They will help mitigate climate change which, unless you are very thick, is becoming more obvious as time goes by. What needs to happen now is for people to put pressure on vehicle manufacturers to produce more affordable EVs and for government to create rules that will increase their adoption. That means that apartment/condo dwellers should have access, AT COST, to charging facilities where they live. Governments have no problem with telling everyone what to do. So, for them, this should be a simple thing.
@@forgottenhill159 I drive my ICE vehicle carefully, resulting in the tyres, brakes and driveline lasting for a long time; it's fueled by propane, which in Australia, is a by-product of natural gas extraction and a very clean burning fuel; no heavy battery that requires electricity.
I am wondering why this documentary is part of DW's Planet A channel! many people need to know tyre manufacture accounts for 70% of the world production of natural rubber. Around 30% natural rubber is used in all tyres even today, infact rubber's prices are directly co-related with crude oil prices!
Most of the tires I own are marked with made in one of the south east asian countries, but I'm not sure how much of these 40 to 80 euro (each) bicycle tires end up with these workers. I guess not much.
Is this Marina Sirtis' community service?
Rubber is a carbon sink.
How is all this deforesting working out for Brazil
Its making them money! A very important aspect of life.
Are there still virgin forest left in the EU?
@Dw documentary you beauty❤️😊
I thougt most tires nowadays are made from synthetic rubber. Oil.
"Sustainable rubber plantation" interesting but how and at what cost? How about reduction of the use of vehicles ie reduced use of rubber? As long as any party in the circle aims at max benefit, rubber cultuvation will continue.
Our Older and Elder actually have plant Rubber in the Middle Katulistiwa Region, But the Price's comodity are very low, except Malaysia and Thailand, becouse those country have relationship and being the commonwealth Europe, now our comodity change by plant The Palm Tree among the rool of the CPO and ISPO or RSPO, in the condition who some Rubber Branch still exist..
Good old rububer!
Just to be clear:
It is not the product (tyres) that is to blame. It is the way they are produced- and that's a human decision.
We don't need to change out mobility. We need to change the way tyres are made!
And we need to change the way environmental subjects are reported about, less eco-populist, more _solution_ orientated!
The trend towards bigger tires makes cars handle worse and be less comfortable than they would be with a smaller diameter but a thicker tire profile. Not to mention, far more durable!
so if I understand it correctly -- Michelin, a company which makes profit by selling more tires -- is >>doing research so that each tire lasts longer?
If Michelin's tires are holding longer that's an advantage towards competitors. But I understand the sentiment. Every year more cars, motorcycles are sold globally so demand will grow anyway
If Michelin had worried about this, they would have never introduced the radial tire in 1946. It lasted 2 to 3 times longer than the bias ply tire it replaced. The industry fought against radial tires for 30 years.
South what sea? China?
The premise is laughably funny. The vast majority of the rubber in a passenger tire is synthetic. Now, truck tires and mining tires are a different matter. They have a larger percentage natural rubber content. Also, worldwide rubber production has been fairly stable since 2017. This is an odd documentary, especially since the competition to growing rubber trees is generally more traditional row crops. That is why many tire companies are looking at alternatives - they are afraid that the labor intensive rubber industry will get pushed out by cheaper to produce crops.
"Also, worldwide rubber production has been fairly stable since 2017." - that's not what Statista tells me. According to them natural rubber production increased by over 8% from 2017 thru 2022. And the growth since 2000 has been quite dramatic. So I'd say this documentary is quite appropriately covering plantations for natural rubber.
im indonesian , all the plantation if not palm tree is rubber, they exploit the worker so much, and they kills rainforest
Hey @free45678 - you really need to get your facts right. Tyre manufacture accounts for 70% of the world production of natural rubber. Around 30% natural rubber is used in all tyres even today, infact rubber's prices are directly co-related with crude oil prices!
Wondering if Revux will pump before XRP. It’s got potential!
Now look at total Co2 from production throughout the car's lifespan. That's where the Tesla does very well.
Tires are certainly a problem but you can't expect a manufacturer to solve all problems that've been created by the industry far back.
Most very old vehicles are doing a lot better on this.
The problem is that many see vehicles as consumer products instead of keeping them as long as they can be maintained.
I'm from Kerala, India and we've been growing and producing rubber for three generations now. Due to poor returns for the last 8 years from rubber, I've quit rubber growing and chopped off every single tree on my plantation. I am moving on to fruit crops instead.
Tyre companies are responsible for low price of natural rubber for growers cause they bribe governments to allow them to lease rain forests for dirt cheap rates for ridiculously long tenures. They never even pass on this low cost benefit to tyre buyers. The tyre companies are solely responsible for this ecological damage, cause in the process of making more profits, they kill off traditional rubber growers and then penetrate into rain forests. Imagine, a handful of greedy corporates ruining the planet's eco system and putting the blame on everyone else but them.
I'm glad they are cutting down the forest to grow rubber trees. I'm glad that people can have a job and feed their families. The rubber trees give us oxygen just like the forest trees that they have replaced. They are also a habitat for birds and other wildlife just like the forest trees that they have replaced.
Good point
Any other plants and wildlife in the rubber plantations?
Asking for a friend. ;)
Steel is endlessly reusable. Trams & trains are best.
For an average car tire you could have at least ten bicycle tires.
Rubber trees is a forest
Don't have a car ....wouldn't buy one either !
I have one, wouldn't want to rely on 3rd party services, schedules, availability and T&Cs.
do you buy stuff that's carried by trucks? then you indirectly use tyres.
@@petesmitt The video title literally mentions 'cars' dude 🤣
@@progyandas9650 So truck tyres, motorcycle tyres, bicycle tyres, etc., don't count, just because the title only mentioned car tyres?
I’m all about presales, and Revux tops my list. Early investment is key!
It is not natural rubber, it is the synthetic rubber more harmful to the environment. DW can do a documentary on Sythetic rubber, if you are more serious on sustainability.
tires are made from crude oil
"Smaller tires" how about no tires at all otherwise we are gonna breathe the dust out of the air year in year out just because "OH M, GOOOODDDDDD WE HAVENT COME WITH SMTH BETTER THAN TIRES IN 100 YEARS OR SO?
Public transportation, city design
Try telling everyone how eating their beef is destroying the Amazon DO BETTER
This is bs. Rubber price so low not so many people do rubber plantation. Most tyres were made from synthesized rubber.
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Tesla is the largest offender. My model x has 21” tires why?
We can't have a cake and not eat it. We need cars, cars need tires
Lol fck you. We most certainly don't need cars (for personal transportation). What we do need is a well-connected, operational public transportation system. I bike whenever I can. Do you?
Seriously, get Revux now before it’s too late!
Moving everything into BTC and Revux. This presale is too good to ignore!
Smaller tires 🛞 pop and wear faster on roads that are cracked, pot holes and broken. Large tires ensure more traction, control and safety from tire being busted by bad roads.
Well we need tires, so I don't see much of a workaround. The rainforests are just gonna have to go, they're cool and all but yeah
So once again capitalism is privatized over the environment? Shocking…
This can happen when your morals are Zero and Corruption by government and media make it sound great for the citizens. Corruption is bad. Capitalism is Better
Prioritized you mean. And yes, Money is very important! If you had the chance to pick either a 100 dollar bill, or make the earths climate 0.0000000000000000000000003% better, which would you pick? I think I would go with the 100 dollar bill.
The world is not black/white.
Why not set incentives to make tyres from other material (e.g. by reduced taxes on the end product)?
Last thing we want is back into socialism. It ended '89 and should never come back.
Tesla is not a luxury car BMW is .
My picks for the bull run: ADA, AVAX, SOL. Best presale? Revux, no doubt.
B.S
lego is the biggest tire maker is the world. so they make lego's from the rubber
The TLDR on this one is SUVs should be outlawed and large tires should be restricted. Microplastics in tires and black carbon should be banned. Make do without to save the planet.
"Should".. but no poor country will. And if rich countries choose to be first.. it will be them that suffer the harsh economic consequences.
1st
I think thin tyres on SUVs look stoopid.
And remember before that, they used to chop hands of congoleses workers what is the real,disgusting point in this exploitation....
We are fcked up over the time, the future unborn generations will deal what i messed up today.
🤣 doomed
Mars colonisation is needed to keep earth sustainable.
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. . . or controlling human population growth. Crazy idea, huh? 🤔
Send all "leaders first '
Great video. Only thing is that next time you show a map of India, please don’t include Pakistani administered Kashmir as a part of India.
Wow. So much propaganda.
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Stop the propaganda Documentary DW in Politics. Love your docs but not the political ones cuz you show double standards. ❤
Facts are not propaganda, trying to mix up facts with lies is propaganda.
how is it propaganda?
@@Pleezath well they haven’t talked about Netanyahu, US & West in complicit in the genocide in Palestine. But would every month display a video of Putin.
Wrong video to lament the lack of approval of whatever part of humanity you deem bigger than the universe. I believe most of ppl watching this's allegiance lies beyond imaginary borders and the myths groups within them like to narrate!
@samsanyang9252 This video is literally about tires dude 💀
Most people are too fat and too lazy to care about environmental impact and sustainable energy. They will absolutely drive a car 100 percent of the time, despite there being alternatives. I cycle whenever I can and sometimes I'm the only cyclists I see all day. I live in the United States, but I see cars being used everywhere in World when walking will do a much better job. There needs to be a tax on driving or at least people being shamed everytime they ignite their engines.
This is the dumbest thing I have heard today.
@@abdulrahman01234 You're probably one of those useless people that only drive their cars when other options are available.
@@aliasincognito0 Options like?
@@abdulrahman01234 You know, like walking, biking, bus, train, etc. Native vegetation and endemic wild life are forced to relocate due to human expansion. We have giant roadways and massive parking lots because people like you have to drive a car. We need thriving trees and healthy oceans, not more infrastructure for stupid metal boxes with wheels.
@@aliasincognito0 Well, where I live, I don't have the luxury of public transportation. I have a family to take care of, kids I need to drop and pick up from school, errands I need to run, and a workplace that is considerably long distance from home. I don't think walking and bikes would do the job.
DW should apologize from the people of Pakistan for showing Pakistan's territory in the Indian map.👎
The disastrous car industry..the worst invention of all time
It made 5 billion people have food on the table instead of starving. The combustion engine is therefore the greatest human invention of all time.
I live off grid. I need larger tires 🛞 for my self sufficiency homestead lifestyle to prepare for societal collapse in the cities I am avoiding. Country dwellers will survive everything except nuclear war .
Europe should stop using tires 🛞 so that they make chance for the developing countries can use tires. 👏
Hardly the solution for anything and anyone.
All the europeans should travel to the moon so africans can live in europe.
human population is the problem we are billions passed carrying capacity
tire tree is also natrual, why you critised on this , its abusd
they only consider a forest tree if the tree is not planted by human.
I need lots of rubber for burnouts, doughnuts, launches, etc. Keep it coming. 🛞🛞🛞🛞