GTX 285 SLI Revisted with fast Core i5-3570 and Z77 Motherboard

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Komentáře • 367

  • @schweepy_g
    @schweepy_g Před 3 lety +113

    Rest of the industry: Buy the new thing, it's faster.
    Phil: OMG look how fast the stuff you gave away was!

  • @MC_Papphead
    @MC_Papphead Před 3 lety +45

    It's amazing how powerful some old hardware still can be today, if we neglect the power consumption and noise.
    And yes, the old thermal paste DOES make a big difference. *Up to* 20°C less in idle and 10-15°C under load.
    Great video as always Phil! Thank you :)

    • @Paul_Ivanish
      @Paul_Ivanish Před 3 lety +4

      You mean CHANGING the old thermal paste for newer, fresh application of paste, right OP? Isopropyl clean plus dust-off then some adequate spread of Thermal Grizzly or NXZT Arctic?

    • @trashtronics1700
      @trashtronics1700 Před 3 lety +2

      @@Paul_Ivanish it will always make a difference on these old cards u got to figure this card is 10 plus years old I believe and modern thermal paste preforms way better than the factory cheap stuff they use

  • @kitzibu
    @kitzibu Před 3 lety +52

    That is one sexy protection plate that Mainboard's got.

    • @BlazingBlakesGaming
      @BlazingBlakesGaming Před 3 lety +1

      I've got same motherboard 👍
      Very very good motherboard

    • @h1tzzYT
      @h1tzzYT Před 3 lety +1

      Yeah and great heat trap too :D

    • @juanignacioaschura9437
      @juanignacioaschura9437 Před 3 lety +3

      Back when the ASUS TUF boards were high-end and not midrange... The Sabertooth 990FX was also a beauty.

    • @RuruFIN
      @RuruFIN Před 3 lety

      I had the Z87 version few years ago and it looked as good as this one.

  • @totalrandomtechnolog
    @totalrandomtechnolog Před 3 lety +33

    That feeling when people's retro computers are better than your main machine at home.

    • @armando1is1great
      @armando1is1great Před 3 lety +2

      What're your specs?

    • @warrax111
      @warrax111 Před 3 lety +2

      @@armando1is1great 8800GTS 512, in duty 13 years sir. Downgraded last month to GT220, because of power consumption.

    • @retropcscotland4645
      @retropcscotland4645 Před 3 lety

      @@warrax111 What?

    • @extracoolboy
      @extracoolboy Před 3 lety

      @@warrax111 Mine 8800GTS 512MB died after two years lol. It was made by Zotac. It got replaced by GT210 due to lack of funds back then. But that is all history now. Hope you will get something better mate, even Intel NUC PCs are getting faster now.

    • @warrax111
      @warrax111 Před 3 lety +3

      @@extracoolboy Yep, I am lazy to upgrade socket 775 platform. I have Q6600, Q9650 is prepared year, I've got it as gift :) but it is lying in the shelf for a year. I'm using it to play silly 2D games, and youtube, office work, documents. The only reason I have to upgrade is power consumption, but thanks to GT220, it dropped to 84W in idle, so it's not so bad. Would be more happy with 60W, but nevermind, it is only few cents more per month.
      Also, socket 775 is holding 10 years. Operetional since 2010 sir. (Asus P5Q Deluxe)
      Gigabyte GTS8800 512 is going to pension, after 13 years of servive. Into drawer to other retro cards from my personal collection. I decided it last month, after I've got GT220 for free with some retro cards. Funny thing is, GTS 8800 didnt have 2D mode, it was drawing 40W in idle!!! For 13 years. I didnt know it, until I've was researching hardware into more depth. Then I wanted to upgrade (because of idle power consumption)
      Funny thing is I started to buy old hardware. I know to spend 50 or 100$ on old retro AGP cards into collection, but I don't know to buy GTX 560 ti for 30$ or 750ti for 50$. :)
      Anyway, power consumption for GT220 is like 4W in idle, I've bought Watt-meter. So I'm happy. I'm lazy to upgrade. Don't want to install new operating system, for me it's loss of time, I don't like it. Btw, I have Windows 7 installed from 2011 now. :) Operation almost 10 years, sir.
      I kinda don't need modern hardware. Power of socket 775 platform is enough. Games after year 2010 sucks anyway. Didnt see one, that interested me. For browsing, 8 GB RAM is enough. My MB supports 16 MB, but 4 Gigs DDR2 module for Intel is too expensive. I've upgraded to 4x2 GB, which is maximum. The maximum, I've raised during browsing was 7.5GB. Usually 5-6 GB is enough 99% of time. I am checking Task manager during browsing when I have opened 30 tabs, still 8 GB is enough. So basicaly didn't have reason to upgrade, beside power consumption.

  • @ruxandy
    @ruxandy Před 3 lety +56

    "What do you want to see in future videos?" Slot 1 Pentium 3 1 GHz vs. Slot A Athlon "Orion" 1 GHz :-)

    • @retropcscotland4645
      @retropcscotland4645 Před 3 lety

      I was thinking more along the lines of J'Lo building a pc with her large rump.

  • @TheBigupz
    @TheBigupz Před 3 lety +9

    there's something about SLI setups thats so mesmerizing, its a shame they're not popular anymore

    • @reznov4291
      @reznov4291 Před 3 lety +4

      well there was never really a major benefit for sli cards as single cards got better and better, but yeah seeing a multi gpu desktop looks so cool

    • @TheBigupz
      @TheBigupz Před 3 lety +4

      @@reznov4291 i mean it makse sense having 2 cards would be better than 1, it was just a poor implementation and resource management

    • @reznov4291
      @reznov4291 Před 3 lety +3

      @@TheBigupz true but the need for multi gpus lessens as tech gets more powerful, and realistically speaking you never really will be able to get double performance with double cards, so the price to performance was pretty low alr

    • @NUCLEARARMAMENT
      @NUCLEARARMAMENT Před 3 lety +2

      @@reznov4291 You aren't guaranteed to get 100% scaling across all CPU cores either. I can maybe get 90% if lucky.

  • @rescuemei
    @rescuemei Před 3 lety +9

    tfw watching this on a system with a 3770k and a Sabertooth Z77
    (edit) Can't praise this board enough, served me well since I built this system in 2012

  • @DeViLzzz2006
    @DeViLzzz2006 Před 3 lety +16

    Love that those cards look so great and someone has kept them for all to see. Nothing like pc hardware / pc gaming history being preserved. As for the sound those cards make with the fans ramped to say it is loud is an understatement. : ) In regards to the AMD FX-6300 well my son's current pc which he has had for a long time is finally ancient and in many ways not able to do what he wants. I already told him in the future I will take it off his hands as I like to keep things I built but as for replacing it right now it is a complete headache. PC gaming is not what it used to be in terms of affordability. Anyway to finish up I liked hearing about how wonderful GOG can be in terms of gaming. You own your games and you don't need the net to use them. Yes you at times pay more for them but in many ways it is worth it. Thanks for the video eh.

  • @itzamedave6242
    @itzamedave6242 Před 3 lety +5

    Wow great rig I'm still using my original 2009 built Biostar T-power x58 i7 920 @3.25Ghz 12gb ddr3 and Gtx275 SOC edition 1.75gb vram in 2021 😁

  • @REPOMAN24722
    @REPOMAN24722 Před 3 lety +8

    Never mind the fan noise, you should hear the 4870x2, tinnitus inducing, auditory damaging, sheer pain.

    • @penguin5384
      @penguin5384 Před 3 lety +1

      Love 4870s , fantastic cards. The peak for noise and indeed power consumption has to be their replacement the 5970. I still own 3 of these that I ran in crossfire. I also still own the 1300 watt EVGA Psu that was needed to feed the monsters. The noise and heat was the sort of thing that would require protection in the workplace.

  • @SUCRA
    @SUCRA Před 3 lety +8

    That sli combo is awesome, just raw power. If you had something like that paired with an overclocked first gen i7 or xeon you could game up to a couple years ago, giving specific instructions sets are not required. Great video Phil, thanks again!

    • @Polmansol
      @Polmansol Před 3 lety +2

      Same here, I ran a i7 920 with 260's in sli for at least 6-7 years, too bad they didn't support dx11 or i would have used them for even longer. I'm still on the same x58 board, using a x5675 and a gtx 1080 now tho.

    • @SUCRA
      @SUCRA Před 3 lety +1

      @@Polmansol that's awesome! I have a x5670 in the pc I use in the lab, upgrade it from an i7 920. I have a few video about it in my channel if you are interested.

    • @Polmansol
      @Polmansol Před 3 lety +1

      @@SUCRA gonna check it out :)

    • @SUCRA
      @SUCRA Před 3 lety +1

      @@Polmansol sound's great! 👍😄

  • @cppctek
    @cppctek Před 3 lety +5

    Yeeeeeet. Fridays good with vintage videos from you thanks!

  • @michaelthompson9798
    @michaelthompson9798 Před 3 lety +4

    Beautiful setup. I miss the good old days of SLI and my rig 😭. Great to bring back these retro builds and games of over 10 years old to run on them. Love this episode 🥰🥰

  • @AriadneStark
    @AriadneStark Před 3 lety +9

    Phil, It feels like the channel leveled up today ;) I wish I had a Sabertooth to match it with my Noctua fans and the 3770K. Such a beautiful mobo, but its price is so high at all times. A great investment for the channel indeed and I just cant wait for more videos involving this premium product.

  • @justinpatterson5291
    @justinpatterson5291 Před 3 lety +27

    I was waiting for the rig to start taking off. I mean you had the turbines at full thrust right?

  • @jcfb1470
    @jcfb1470 Před 3 lety +3

    Nice video phil. It's funny that in some modern games some fx cpus are faster than those intel core i5.
    Btw I have a suggestion: someday you should try Windows XP x64 on hardware similar to this. Most people underappreciate this operating system due to thinking that is is incompatible with games for some reason, when in fact it's quite snappy and compatible..

  • @prestigious0
    @prestigious0 Před 3 lety +4

    Thanks for doing another video on this generation of GPUs! I miss the fun these cards provided when overclocking the gpu and shaders. Lots less locked down vs today's Nvidia gpu. Voltage, clocks, memory timings, and fan curve were all tuneable with a vbios editor. I think the editing tool was called Nibitor or something like that. I had a lot of fun tuning 3x GTX 260 core 216 up trying to reach parity with 2 GTX 295 cards in quad sli

  • @amightygrizzly
    @amightygrizzly Před 3 lety +4

    3:02 "Ladies and gentlemen. Please put on your seat belt and be ready to take.." 3:07 "..flight on PhilsComputerLab. We hope you.." 3:13 "..enjoy your stay."

  • @TheSliderW
    @TheSliderW Před 3 lety +4

    Thank you for this follow up. This card was part of the tiny and cute Shuttle build I made for my wife in 2009. It was so good that we've played most of our co-op games on that machine for a long time until we switched to a second hand 460 and more recently a 1050 (always a small form factor because of the build and power draw). The CPU in that build is pretty beefy for the time, but the cooling is noisy as hell. That being said, the performance you get is quite on par with our experience although we didn't run it in SLI... I might also be remembering some games performance wrong because of the various GPU upgrades over the time.
    Nowadays that card is pushing polygons in a retro WinXP machine while the 460 died in the workshop PC... X )

  • @harryspapadopoulos8818
    @harryspapadopoulos8818 Před 3 lety +31

    Generally FX where a mess on gaming but they are still decent especially now where games and applications use more than 4 cores

    • @hybrid7307
      @hybrid7307 Před 3 lety +1

      Nice to see a Greek on these kind of videos

    • @MJ-uk6lu
      @MJ-uk6lu Před 3 lety +2

      They still aren't good. I just upgraded from FX and I can say that FX CPUs are no longer decent or good enough. Also their power consumption is just ridiculous. My new i5 10400f consumes 2 times less power and performs 3 or 4 times faster. Also FX CPUs are no good for latest AAA games anymore and for that matter they suck at games from mid 2010s too.

    • @harryspapadopoulos8818
      @harryspapadopoulos8818 Před 3 lety

      @@MJ-uk6lu They don't suck that much if you game on 1440p or 4k but I get your point. I owned an FX 8350 for a while and I can too say it was a mess.

    • @MJ-uk6lu
      @MJ-uk6lu Před 3 lety +1

      @@harryspapadopoulos8818 If you game with anything higher than 1080p resolution, then you most likely have upgraded platform already.

    • @harryspapadopoulos8818
      @harryspapadopoulos8818 Před 3 lety

      @@MJ-uk6lu Mate I've seen some weird stuff during the past decade and I can confirm that yes there are a few people that still game on their FX on high resolutions and oof that is painfull.

  • @RacerS2
    @RacerS2 Před 3 lety +1

    Back then I had a GTX260 combined with a Q6600 doing triple screen with Matrox TripleHead2Go (5040x1050) and ran games like Dirt3 just fine. Q6600 was retired soon after. Revisited Core2Quad era again recently with a MicroATX mainboard and Radeon HD5850 to see what red team was like.

  • @popcornchokes84
    @popcornchokes84 Před 3 lety +2

    What a beautiful Friday. Digging today's upload.

  • @evergreengamer5767
    @evergreengamer5767 Před 3 lety +3

    was great to see the sli revisit with faster cpu, also part of me misses the jet sound effects provided by that cooler do remember start of the fin stacks clogging with lint or pet hair somewhat fast though

  • @kingacastus8915
    @kingacastus8915 Před 3 lety +7

    I hope none of these are the "coil whine card", wouldn't want you to lose your hearing while benchmarking!
    PS: Love the video, I'd like to see more mid 2000s gpu's being tested

    • @MJ-uk6lu
      @MJ-uk6lu Před 3 lety

      Their fans are already loud enough

  • @spazjackrabbit61
    @spazjackrabbit61 Před 3 lety +10

    ah the Sabertooth Z77
    this motherboard still sells as a premium in my country, nearly same as a brand new b550 mainboard

  • @louistournas120
    @louistournas120 Před 3 lety +1

    I like the winter related comment in the video. I'm in Canada. Yes, I use incandescent bulbs. During winter, I leave 1 PC on all the time and let it run FAH (Folding at home research project).

  • @danielson9579
    @danielson9579 Před 3 lety +2

    I've always liked this era off gaming and hardware 😊👍

  • @GhettoPCbuilds
    @GhettoPCbuilds Před 3 lety +13

    It's sad SLI died after DirectX 11 blew up. I bet it's because companies would rather us pay a premium for expensive cards because their lower end would do better for less money, haha.

    • @jackwilson5542
      @jackwilson5542 Před 3 lety +1

      Yeah, no wonder that the only card supporting SLI is RTX 3090. (So people don't buy 2 3080s, instead of one 3090)

  • @francescovolpini
    @francescovolpini Před 3 lety +5

    was waiting for the 285 sli comeback :)

  • @michelvanbriemen3459
    @michelvanbriemen3459 Před 3 lety +7

    Industry: sorry but you're gonna have to wait a couple of months before you can buy one graphics card
    Phil: one?

  • @hrayz
    @hrayz Před 3 lety +2

    I really wanted to see the game fps comparison from the FX to i5, not just the 3DMark. Games tend to run much different then the synthetic benches...

  • @ayoutubechannel6488
    @ayoutubechannel6488 Před 3 lety +1

    This brings back some memories, the gtx 285 was my first graphics card in my first gaming pc.

  • @eightyd2554
    @eightyd2554 Před 3 lety +2

    Phil, if you enable multi core enhancement it will lock the CPU to single core turbo, giving 4.2ghz constant.

  • @retrosimon9843
    @retrosimon9843 Před 2 lety

    With SLI typically one card, usually the top primary card, always runs a little hotter unless you have a fan blowing in the gap between the cards.
    With new paste and a fan blowing in the gap temps and noise can be reduced a lot !

  • @JeordieEH
    @JeordieEH Před 3 lety +2

    I sadly skipped the 200 series. I had mixed feelings about them. Especially after having an nvidia 8800 gts and later a 4850 after my gts 8800 died. I was a little concerned when the 9800 series were basically the same gpu and the 200 series felt barely better for the range I could afford at the time, except for the higher end cards. However I still drooled over the 285 and the 295, thinking how nice it would be to have something that powerful. The price seemed pretty huge at the time. Then I waited and the 400 series came out and I was again a little mixed about the 200 series. The huge performance leap and the price I felt people wasted on the 200 series, which seemed short lived and dropped support a little too quickly and left in the dust. So, i'm glad I skipped this series, even if the cards still intrigue me. Especially the 295.

  • @prozacgodretro
    @prozacgodretro Před rokem +1

    I think I might have still been rocking my GeForce5 on a HT P4 when I upgraded to the gtx285 + Q8200... was such a drastic upgrade lol... that setup lasted my until like 5 years ago. when my daughter inherited it, to play GW2 and I got myself a 5930k + gtx 980ti ... lol I really take a long time between upgrades.

  • @Unaether
    @Unaether Před 3 lety

    I like these videos that revisit old hardware. I have a DFI board with SLI, AMD X2 CPU and 4GB ram and a couple of GTX 275s. I play with it from time to time.

  • @kostasbezaitis2695
    @kostasbezaitis2695 Před 3 lety +3

    The 200 series always bring be some nostalgia. The msi 275 Twin Frozr was the first card I bought with money I earned...anyways, nice video as always!
    Another question: Is 3470's multi unlocked on all z77's? Cause they've been going for pennies nowdays and they look like a good budget option.

  • @shaneeslick
    @shaneeslick Před 3 lety +1

    G'day Phil,
    I was watching a SabertoothZ77 for my parts test bench maybe this was the one, happy to see it go to a good home 😁, I like LGA1155 for being able to run XP - W10 as I only need 1 test bench,
    I ended up getting a Gigabyte Z68XP-UD4R for $75AUD delivered, it also had a activated W10 Licence,
    for LGA1155 I have a Pentium G2120, i3-3240, i5-2500K (I would like a i5-3570K), i7-2700K (in another build) & i7-3770K, so lots of variation to test how CPU Cores & Threads will affect GPU performance for different build ideas 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔

  • @RetroAmateur1989
    @RetroAmateur1989 Před 3 lety +2

    MMMM the 285. I had one for like 5 years, then gave it away 6 years ago. Still works. Unlike the 8000 and 9000 series which worked for like 3 years then died.

    • @RetroAmateur1989
      @RetroAmateur1989 Před 3 lety

      @Dat Boii statistics. It doesn't mean that all of the cards will die after a short period of time, but that they do have a higher failure rate. God help you if you get the short end of the stick. 8800gtx I owned, dead. It lasted longer, until 2012. But my 9800GTX+ died on me with fairly light use in the same year. A friend's 9800gt died, and so did another's 9600gt. An internet station threw out a whole bunch of 9600 cards, and I salvaged them. Guy told me half or so of a few dozen cards don't even work. But I have yet to test them.

  • @garyr7027
    @garyr7027 Před rokem

    I have the XFX version of this GTX 285 and I can confirm they do run hot even with the best case scenario.

  • @peterharband326
    @peterharband326 Před 3 lety +1

    Interesting experiment Philip. Always enjoy watching.

  • @MadsonOnTheWeb
    @MadsonOnTheWeb Před 3 lety +3

    This is an impressive setup

  • @jahilbanda1540
    @jahilbanda1540 Před 3 lety +4

    Hey guys welcome to another Friday video :o)

    • @summerxia9027
      @summerxia9027 Před 3 lety +1

      😂😂😂hey guys , welcome to another Friday video+1

  • @fer2lance
    @fer2lance Před 3 lety +2

    Hello Phil i would like to see some older pentium 1 benchmarks with pentiums 120 /133 / 166 with 3dfx 1 for example. thanks a lot and keep up the good job !

  • @hindel6141
    @hindel6141 Před 3 lety +3

    Oh man.. I am still a i7-2600K user.. Would give my left nut for that motherboard! By the way I would still like to see your take on the fallen Cyrix CPUs.

  • @simeonjohnston5941
    @simeonjohnston5941 Před 3 lety +1

    Excellent video, as always

  • @bobbycatgt70
    @bobbycatgt70 Před 3 lety +1

    Wow! They are still great after all of these years!

  • @Paul_Ivanish
    @Paul_Ivanish Před 3 lety

    God, I love SLI. Still have my custom-arranged SLI system playing modern games on two Asus Strix 1080 Ti's OC edition lighting up my room; built late 2017/early 2018. I did recently move it to a more spacious case and spread some Thermal Grizzly on both cards (around a 5~9°C decrease in temps altogether), gave it some tech lovin'. Only downside: GTA V started giving me some trouble like a couple of weeks back, by that I mean it randomly crashes on the main menu after some minutes. Regardless, all other games on my list play great on a 4K TV.

  • @Obie327
    @Obie327 Před 3 lety +1

    I'm not sure about the noise (racket) they are producing but was interesting seeing the highest end versions of these cards spreading their wings. I had the GTX 260 core 216 XFX models back in the day. I do wonder about newer cards like the GTX 460 or a GTX 560ti/560ti 448 graphics cards. Thanks for the video PhilsComputerLab!

  • @-Rook-
    @-Rook- Před 3 lety

    I used my 285 every day until it blew up, a legend of a card. A pair of these in SLI is probably competitive with a GT1030, one of the best cards readily available at retail in 2021 :D what a weird world we are living in.

  • @yanagida_01
    @yanagida_01 Před 3 lety

    I absolutely love those old TUF Sabertooth boards from ASUS from Z77 to Z97, the steel backplate is heavy af.
    the only gripe that I have with it is that rear fan for the VRM pulls dust to the rear panel ports.

  • @Chesterfried
    @Chesterfried Před 3 lety +3

    Those GPU temps are crazy, I highly recommend replacing the thermal paste. I'm guessing you'll be able to shave off at least 10C.

  • @mxthunder2
    @mxthunder2 Před 3 lety +1

    Would have been cool to see some vantage results as well. Love that benchmark for this generation cards.

  • @danielson9579
    @danielson9579 Před 3 lety +1

    I had this motherboard with 16gb of ram and a 3770k and two sapphire hd7950s in crossfire on windows 7x64 it ran games very well even crysis 3 🙂

  • @briangoldberg4439
    @briangoldberg4439 Před 3 lety +1

    I like your videos in general, thanks for putting your content out. With this card, I'm not that interested because it's new enough that I remember it. I tend to prefer the older, more retro hardware reviews, or cutting edge stuff. I still enjoyed it though, just maybe not multiple times.

  • @dexsters5643
    @dexsters5643 Před 3 lety +2

    Honestly i expected that you would use a X58 system again for a revisit but this is good aswell.
    these multi- gpu videos are very interesting

    • @dexsters5643
      @dexsters5643 Před 3 lety

      @@roymarr6181 yeah yeah wise guy i know. Yeah i know the difference between the ipc gains between nehealom/westmeer vs ivy bridge. Like it was for the retro feel. Like sometimes it just drives me nuts now seeing people use 10900K and GTX 285 in 3 way sli and selling it as a 1440p pc for 1k.
      Thats why i was curious about X58. You can yap as much as you want that the fact its old and so on but sandy bridge and Ivy bridge is nothing newer because in some games they mostly get beaten by there 4th gen(Haswell) chips not just in IPC But also in instruction sets.
      AVX 2 doesnt exist on Ivy bridge

    • @dexsters5643
      @dexsters5643 Před 3 lety

      @@roymarr6181 sounds like someone blew a whole morgade on his pc as everyyear a new part came out. Throws out past gen and puts in current gen

    • @dexsters5643
      @dexsters5643 Před 3 lety

      @@roymarr6181 yeah fair point but theres a nother truth. What ic you have lets say a X58 system with a I7-920, replace the i7 for a xeon and then your hooked.
      And well honestly i can buy a whole X58 system for 100€ with no gpu's unlike a sandy bridge or ivy bridge system where i can only buy cpu,board and stock cooler 100

  • @kingcorner3037
    @kingcorner3037 Před 3 lety

    Thnx to You i have now the need to try out my GTX 275 896MB, GTX 280 1GB and GTX 285 2GB version with my old w3680 cpu based system :3

  • @sly_botts1189
    @sly_botts1189 Před rokem

    I had an evga 8800 gt super clock back in 2008 with an Athlon 64 x2. 1400x900 monitor. It struggled a bit with modern games at the time but lasted me 3 years.

  • @ZeroHourProductions407
    @ZeroHourProductions407 Před 3 lety +3

    Yeah, AMD FX cpus had notoriously low IPC at the time, and their flagship models had memetically high power and thermal issues. Yet on the flip side, their design didn't have the same risk of vulnerability to stuff like spectre and meltdown, so those mitigation patches more drastically kneecapped performance on the intel core chips, 7th gen and older.
    The more distressing thing, is how hiked up fx cpu prices are. I paid $60 usd for an 8350 some years ago, but now the same shop wants $70 for an 8320.

    • @eclipsegst9419
      @eclipsegst9419 Před 3 lety

      @@roymarr6181 yeah afaik meltdown and spectre were just theoretical. i have yet to hear of anyone actually getting hacked because of it.

    • @eclipsegst9419
      @eclipsegst9419 Před 3 lety

      @@roymarr6181 no, sorry, I mean the actual "vulnerabilities" they were supposed to prevent were just theoretical. I walked a friend thru disabling them on his e5-2689 and it definitely woke it up. What I haven't ever done, or bothered to look into, is if it is doable/beneficial to a newer cpu like my 5775c. I mostly hear about it when talking sandy and ivy.

    • @eclipsegst9419
      @eclipsegst9419 Před 3 lety

      @@roymarr6181 yeah i know. what i was trying to say is that i dont think anyone got infected because of it and it was an unnessecary thing for them to patch in the first place. Does it help Haswell, Broadwell, Skylake? I only really know of doing it to the old x79 xeons. Heck i have a 2550K in my htpc that would probably benefit but it only gets minecraft or waw zombies or random little kid games played on it so i never thought about it.

  • @Luchingador
    @Luchingador Před 3 lety

    That fan noise brings me to airport memories

  • @reprimand33
    @reprimand33 Před 3 lety +4

    My secondary rig is Z77 Asrock extreme 4 with i5 3670
    With GTX 1080
    Runs almost everything on my 4K screen

  • @raulperez4458
    @raulperez4458 Před 3 lety +2

    Nice video, i like te sli 285 and directx 10 games

  • @johnconstantine635
    @johnconstantine635 Před 3 lety

    I have a gtx 275 as a backup video card,great video ,thanks.

  • @SilentKnightSam
    @SilentKnightSam Před 3 lety

    The time, when reference card's have a beautiful cover, I miss this. The golden age, when nVidia release the FX series, and Ati comes with the Radeon 9xxx. In the upper category, all reference comes with pictures on the cover...

  • @ScottOmatic
    @ScottOmatic Před 3 lety

    I made it a practice to buy a 2nd GPU at a affordable price a few years after a build and double my performance running in SLI or Crossfire, saving hundreds of dollars by postponing the purchase of a new card. Unfortunately, multi-gpu support is pretty much dead these days, most newer games use an incompatible rendering method. I believe on the official support page, there are only about half a dozen games from the last couple years that are supported, it’s too bad that it’s over.

  • @StaelTek
    @StaelTek Před 3 lety +1

    1:02 it has 2 PCIE 3.0 16x but will run at 3.0 8x in SLI, effectively 2.0 16x speeds.

    • @philscomputerlab
      @philscomputerlab  Před 3 lety

      Yes you're right, the slots are indeed PCIe 3.0. I confudes it because the cards are PCIe 2.0 and running in 2.0 8x on both slots.

    • @StaelTek
      @StaelTek Před 3 lety

      @@philscomputerlab it happens. But if it was a Z68 board with the i5 2xxx CPU's, then you would've been correct.

  • @RaimarLunardi
    @RaimarLunardi Před 3 lety +1

    For SLI I recommend Battlefield 3, it scales very well with SLI/Crossfire

  • @Thewickedjon
    @Thewickedjon Před 3 lety

    back in 2011,12,13,
    I remember I had an i7 980x, with dual r9 290x's in crossfire and 24gb of ram, on an EVGA sli motherboard in a coolermaster haf x full tower case.
    I felt that pc would last me forever.
    Actually I upgraded just BECAUSE it was old, not because i felt it was slow.
    :D
    but that thing was HOT, a room/house heater for sure

  • @bottipoika
    @bottipoika Před 3 lety +1

    finally someone play same old games what i ... bioshock & dead space :D

  • @basbrederode4413
    @basbrederode4413 Před 3 lety

    Love the video. Nice and clear. Thanks.

  • @baroncalamityplus
    @baroncalamityplus Před 3 lety +4

    Need hearing protection at 100% fan speed.

  • @dariushunter6792
    @dariushunter6792 Před 2 lety

    Silky smooth. Like the collection of my nylon track pants. XD

  • @flotfriedmeisenmann768

    Very good performance for this old Cards. I remember my Friends PC with 3x 8800 GTX SLI . It was Hell on Earth ^^

  • @mikek92
    @mikek92 Před 3 lety

    Fans sound louder than my old tri-SLI gtx 470s . Cards are history but the system is still up and running...

  • @djispro4272
    @djispro4272 Před 2 lety

    The GTX285 is actually suprisingly comparable to a Vega 3 inside a modern APU, but a single 285 dips alot in modern games compared to the Vega 3 (which doesn’t dip ocassionally at all)

  • @user-qi7hp1oy6d
    @user-qi7hp1oy6d Před 3 lety +1

    nostalgia 😍

  • @jax4521
    @jax4521 Před 3 lety

    Thx, great video! I use SLI of 2xPalit GTX 285 (but 2GB on board) with i7 2700K CPU for my XP/7 rig. They are not use reference cooling and it make them very quiet compared to yours

  • @attilavidacs24
    @attilavidacs24 Před 3 lety +1

    Was cool when they had those pictures on the GPU shroud.

  • @RChero1010
    @RChero1010 Před 3 lety +1

    I mean it'd be kinda nice to have a 3570k at 4.6-4.8 ghz, or a 3770k, but this is a neat video

  • @retropcdurham
    @retropcdurham Před 3 lety +1

    I've got an old pair of GTX460, this makes me want to try them out in SLI on a system

  • @rare6499
    @rare6499 Před 3 lety +1

    Phil this is timely I just bought a 285 and looking for another!

  • @SMGJohn
    @SMGJohn Před 3 lety +1

    Sounds like an AMD stock cooler those GPU's but slightly quieter, how do I know? I owned several.
    I actually own a Alienware M17 R1 with two Mobility Radeon HD 4870 in Crossfire and its pretty hilarious what kind of performance I can get out of them, this hardware is essentially ancient but its pretty cool just to see what they achieve, its also an outstanding retro gaming machine with native support for XP.

  • @2007tantrum
    @2007tantrum Před 3 lety +2

    Philip is possible, I would like more period correct builds, like you’ve made with dual XP/Vista. Ivy Bridge were at the GTX 6xx era, and Windows 8 was up coming. But of course I like this video.

  • @lukewatt1378
    @lukewatt1378 Před 3 lety +4

    It's surprising how good the performance still is on these 285s considering how old they are.

    • @MJ-uk6lu
      @MJ-uk6lu Před 3 lety

      They were playing old games too, so they perform exactly like when they were new. Graphics cards don't lose performance over time. Load GTA 5 and you will see them barely managing it at 1080p high settings. It's possible that even Athlon 200GE is faster than one GTX 285.

    • @lukewatt1378
      @lukewatt1378 Před 3 lety

      @@MJ-uk6lu Ok to clarify what I said. 1. Some of the games shown were a few years newer than the cards themselves. 2. Cards can lose performance over time due to dust buildup and silicon degradation effecting clock speeds. 3. I know a card kept in good condition doesn't degrade, what are you 12? Assuming that everyone who watches this channel is in-educated. 4. I was comparing the performance to modern GPUs, try taking a Voodoo 2 and playing something like half life 2 on it? That's basically how well these cards are holding up in comparison in terms of age. So, I dunno why all the hate? I'm not ripping off your favorite stuff or whatever.

    • @MJ-uk6lu
      @MJ-uk6lu Před 3 lety

      @@lukewatt1378 I'm not hating you, but it's really not surprising that those cards perform well in old games. That's like being amazed that VooDoo 2 gets 30 fps in Unreal.
      And BTW dust and silicon degradation doesn't degrade performance. Silicon degradation increases minimum stable voltage and dust just causes higher temperatures. And those GTX 285s have enough fan speed to cope with moderate dust build ups. And it's possible that they are from era, when cards didn't have throttling at all (came later in GPUs when compared to CPUs).

    • @warrax111
      @warrax111 Před 3 lety

      @@MJ-uk6lu To get to GTX 285 level, you need Vega 8 or 10 performance. So first from iGPUs is Vega 11, that can be said "faster than GTX 285". That's Ryzen 3400G, if I'm not mistaken.

    • @MJ-uk6lu
      @MJ-uk6lu Před 3 lety

      @@warrax111 Athlon 200GE comparison with old Radeons and Athlon is better or equal than 3870. GTX 285 is a bit slower than 4870 and 4870 is about 30% faster than 3870. To perfectly match performance of GTX 580 you would need Ryzen 2200G or GT 1030 GDDR5. So that's a bit surprising that GTX 285 can still do something sometimes. However GTX 285 doesn't support DirectX 11 fully, so it won't play any modern games anyway. Also being that old it likely can't accelerate CZcams videos and likely doesn't have good enough shader model support to be used in productivity tasks. And while card that old might run some games, it's usually at 720p or 1080p and not high settings and not 60 fps either. That's an awful experience no matter how you spin it and pretty much matches what you could realistically expect from card like that.

  • @yakacm
    @yakacm Před 3 lety +5

    60% Fan V1, 80% Fab V2, 100% fab rotate, positive rate of climb, gear up, lol

  • @MFG9000
    @MFG9000 Před 3 lety +1

    Finally, you got yourself a Z77! How much did it cost, btw? Can someone like me from Bangladesh buy this?

  • @hubzcaps
    @hubzcaps Před 3 lety +1

    Ahh new friday phils thid is like food man i have a pny 275 (:

  • @willaimkazer9754
    @willaimkazer9754 Před 2 lety

    Intel nailed it back then. Might want to try I7-3770 and a GTX 1660, that was a good cobo for me until I went with a RTX 3060Ti and a I5-11600K. I'm running that on a Asus Prime B560M-A/ Works well.

  • @jojinkang2779
    @jojinkang2779 Před 3 lety

    i've got 2 of these cards in pristine condition! Even have an SLI.. might run some games on it.

  • @gabrielbagalacsa3332
    @gabrielbagalacsa3332 Před 3 lety +1

    Thanks for videos sir.. I m heart broke this time but I you saw video I feel ok.. 😁

  • @candidosilva7755
    @candidosilva7755 Před 3 lety

    I imagine this years back it was any gamers dream.)

  • @maggiejetson7904
    @maggiejetson7904 Před 3 lety +12

    Holy fan noise Bat Man, you cannot enjoy games with this much noise.

    • @rare6499
      @rare6499 Před 3 lety +4

      People forget how loud high end machines were back then - it’s one of the main reasons why people went for water cooling. It’s pretty unbearable for a while for sure 😅

    • @MJ-uk6lu
      @MJ-uk6lu Před 3 lety +2

      @@rare6499 Well, I don't forget. Powercolor RX 580 Red Devil V2 is super loud card too. When I was playing Tomb Raider fans were so load that I didn't hear game sound well and I had to crank it up to unreasonable levels. Thankfully I had 120mm AIO on hand and strapped it on that card. Now it's not loud anymore, but there's still a sauna under my desk after playing games for 2 hours.

    • @dycedargselderbrother5353
      @dycedargselderbrother5353 Před 3 lety +1

      @@rare6499 And it wasn't just GPUs, they hadn't figured out airflow cases yet and just stuck half a dozen high RPM Delta fans everywhere.

    • @rare6499
      @rare6499 Před 3 lety

      @@dycedargselderbrother5353 so true. I used to love the Delta’s, back when I was young and my ears could handle it. Those things were absolute animals!

  • @KeyToTime
    @KeyToTime Před 3 lety

    I'd love to see if different cache sizes in certain processors make and difference to gaming performance.
    Like testing the 4930K vs the 4960X at the same clock speed or classic i5 vs i7 with HT off.

  • @Greenchrysopsaro
    @Greenchrysopsaro Před 3 lety

    This is the CPU/GPU combo that I have for my XP machine sans the SLI
    I was kinda worried that I only had an 500W PSU but seeing as two dont even use 500W I can sleep more easily at night

  • @O.Shawabkeh
    @O.Shawabkeh Před 3 lety +1

    Just recently replayed and finished Crysis for the first time on a modern PC. 27“, 1440P, GTX 1080
    I couldn't believe how beautiful the game looks after all those years!
    I did enjoy every single level
    The music alone is worth the run through. Just listen to Crysis Knee Deep, and First Light soundtracks.

  • @MarcoGPUtuber
    @MarcoGPUtuber Před 3 lety +3

    I checked. No Windows 98 drivers. T_T

    • @docgiggs
      @docgiggs Před 3 lety +1

      Yah too bad. One of his recent videos has Phil using a PCIe video card for windows 98 and it made me wonder what the fastest video card is for windows 98 that is stable even if it is based on unofficial support drivers and such.

    • @DeViLzzz2006
      @DeViLzzz2006 Před 3 lety

      www.nvidia.com/en-gb/drivers/win9x-archive/
      None of these work?

    • @MarcoGPUtuber
      @MarcoGPUtuber Před 3 lety +2

      @@docgiggs officially? Nvidia 6000 series. 7000 series can be hacked to work.

    • @MarcoGPUtuber
      @MarcoGPUtuber Před 3 lety

      @@DeViLzzz2006 While I am being facetious....That's right. Highest supported is the 6000 series.

  • @symonsicuan6148
    @symonsicuan6148 Před 3 lety +1

    I miss this kind of reviews :)

  • @RazzeeTV
    @RazzeeTV Před rokem

    I like the design of yours!
    I'm trying to find another GTX 280 to have some fun with.

  • @lloydmaliakal6256
    @lloydmaliakal6256 Před 3 lety

    Very impressive setup. Makes me want to buy 2 of these and put them on my gigabyte z68 ud4 xp mobo for SLI. Love just love it. Not really into new tech today. Over priced :(