Specialized Epic 8 vs Pinarello Dogma XC: Two Elite Level XC Race Bikes Compared

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  • čas přidán 7. 09. 2024
  • With the Paris Olympic Cross Country race fast approaching, Sarah Moore took two potential gold medal winning bikes and pitted them head to head. Which bike comes out on top, the S-Works Epic 8 or the Pinarello Dogma XC?
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Komentáře • 67

  • @assafmizrahi1270
    @assafmizrahi1270 Před měsícem +16

    In reality, Pauline Ferrand-Prevot won the gold medal on Pinarello's hardtail with more than 3 minutes advantage

    • @Leo-ss2gb
      @Leo-ss2gb Před měsícem +4

      In reality, she would have even won on a bike from walmart. Really curious for next year with her moving to road racing and Demi Volering switching teams. Will be a major shakeup!

    • @lukashorak2317
      @lukashorak2317 Před měsícem +1

      Yeah she won clean af

  • @emilioformenti5870
    @emilioformenti5870 Před měsícem +22

    Please do another xc bike round up with supercaliber and s works epic wc and other amazing modern xc bikes

  • @CycleXplorer
    @CycleXplorer Před měsícem +3

    Love the Specialized but hoping for a double pinarello victory, go Tom!

  • @peterpitterman2463
    @peterpitterman2463 Před měsícem +3

    I´m not 100 percent sure but I think Christopher Blevins was on an S-Works Epic World Cup and not on the S-Works Epic 8 when he won the WC in Brazil.

  • @LongbranchOlivetti
    @LongbranchOlivetti Před měsícem +17

    I disagree. Unless something really unnatural happens, only the Dogma will be winning gold medals. The Specialized riders have only won world cups when PFP and Pidcock haven't been present.

  • @peterpitterman2463
    @peterpitterman2463 Před měsícem +1

    "I raced the Epic World Cup at the first round and then Epic 8 at the second." Pinkbike interview from May 1st ;-)

  • @taylerthompson7559
    @taylerthompson7559 Před měsícem +3

    Can we take a moment to talk about how sick the Olympic course is imo

    • @lukashorak2317
      @lukashorak2317 Před měsícem

      Sick like boring and hated by riders or?

    • @taylerthompson7559
      @taylerthompson7559 Před měsícem

      @@lukashorak2317 sick as in cool. I would like to ride it personally. Maybe for a pro it would be boring.

  • @TRG36
    @TRG36 Před měsícem +43

    Riders win, not bikes

    • @thescienceofrandom309
      @thescienceofrandom309 Před měsícem +7

      Bikes matter though

    • @gravelDave
      @gravelDave Před měsícem +6

      Ok he can ride my 1994 Claud Butler shimano 3x8 then.

    • @TRG36
      @TRG36 Před měsícem +1

      @@gravelDave same results if everyone else is also on a similar bike

    • @TRG36
      @TRG36 Před měsícem +1

      @@thescienceofrandom309 only if there's a significient difference. Most are pretty close to the same.

    • @gabormolnar6126
      @gabormolnar6126 Před měsícem

      Teams, teams win

  • @sx5r
    @sx5r Před měsícem +1

    I am wondering why the elite races do not make better use of lightweight parts more often. I am not talking about leaving out screws. But there are wheel sets under 1000g with 30mm rims and many are riding Dt Swiss 1200 30mm with about 1400g. (afaik Tom and Pauline both used Berd spokes, that at least is a nice boost for the new lightweight spokes ^^).
    Or Hopp Carbon parts? He offers almost 100g off the SRAM Transmission derailleur. I myself had the seatclamp of my Fox transfer molded in carbon and increased the length of the rails (by Christoph Hopp ^^) - it's now stiffer and still lighter than the original ... and I have a significantly reduced strain on my saddle rails.
    I could continue ...
    I saw pictures with World Cup bikes on a scale. None of them were below 10kg, some close to 11kg. You can get to 9.3 with dropper seat post, 30mm rims and tire inserts.
    Yes, I know about Sponsors and stuff. But we are talking about weight savings of 10-15% with no loss in performance. 🤔🤐

  • @vlbz
    @vlbz Před měsícem +1

    I'd rather by an electric bike, a dirt bike, and maybe a gravel bike for that money. And keep the change for a nice holiday.

  • @jules263
    @jules263 Před měsícem

    Excellent review, well done. Toms Dogma at the Paris Olympics ran a full electronic suspension, what kind of magic is this? Also his wheels and seat stem were totally different. Pinarello are saying spring 2025 for that particular Dogma to launch 🚀

  • @Joe-hw4xq
    @Joe-hw4xq Před 29 dny +1

    Pidcock could win on a super cycle.

  • @mtb4life817
    @mtb4life817 Před měsícem +3

    The Spesh athletes are riding the epic World Cup and Pauline is riding the dogma hardtail

  • @CarlosRamirez-oz7pc
    @CarlosRamirez-oz7pc Před měsícem

    You answered all my questions! 👍🏼

  • @jacobmathis5686
    @jacobmathis5686 Před měsícem +1

    Specialized riders will probably be riding the Epic WC at the Olympics. The Epic WC is a better choice for most amateur racers.

  • @redlegds_adventures
    @redlegds_adventures Před 19 dny +1

    bike or the rider? I'd say bike is a part of it, its more the rider

  • @madjh8
    @madjh8 Před měsícem +2

    Pinarello has never took MTB serious, and speciallized is vehind in tech now. They abandom the brain and now they are not different from other brands. I will choose, well I have choose other better options. I love my SB5T and Element ❤

  • @edmundhodgson2572
    @edmundhodgson2572 Před měsícem +1

    We all know its about the engine....

  • @NrmlGuyNJ
    @NrmlGuyNJ Před měsícem

    LOL and they took gold and silver in w
    Men’s XC today!😊🎉

  • @Grrg
    @Grrg Před měsícem

    Steep bikes also help with road tactics, and with a tame course decending is for rest not enduro like some of the world cup this year

  • @jacobmathis5686
    @jacobmathis5686 Před měsícem

    Welp, just like I said, the Specialized riders rode the Epic WC, not the Epic 8. Pauline won on a hardtail and Tom Pidcock rode the full sus that was perceived to be too stiff by some. Proof you don’t need 120 mm travel to go fast 💨

    • @streddaz
      @streddaz Před 28 dny +1

      The Epic 8 is more of a Backcountry bike than a race XC bike.

  • @dimazyuryaev7278
    @dimazyuryaev7278 Před 14 dny

    Specialized interior is a waaay more attractive...

  • @nathantoney.1501
    @nathantoney.1501 Před měsícem +1

    I thought Yolanda pulled herself out due to breathing issues?

    • @budycelyn
      @budycelyn Před měsícem

      she did, sina frei has her place

  • @christianborris6754
    @christianborris6754 Před měsícem

    Maybe I do want 4 cinnamon poptarts strapped to my bike.

  • @adissonwatleyMTB123
    @adissonwatleyMTB123 Před měsícem

    Haley and Chris and victor are all on the World Cup… not the epic 8.

  • @mioszbrzozowski4657
    @mioszbrzozowski4657 Před měsícem

    what a shocker

  • @thescienceofrandom309
    @thescienceofrandom309 Před měsícem

    Specialized now has a model
    Of the epic 8 that is down to 5k

    • @gravelDave
      @gravelDave Před měsícem

      and now with 20% off in Europe...

  • @Dryb1as
    @Dryb1as Před měsícem +5

    Bikes don't win medals, it's the riders who ride them

  • @justinh7099
    @justinh7099 Před měsícem

    "Lightness" lol

  • @GiorgioCamozzi
    @GiorgioCamozzi Před měsícem +2

    pretty sure they'll be riding the epic WC and not the epic 8 tho

  • @awesomeoberks
    @awesomeoberks Před měsícem

    Others cross country bikes are available….

  • @ivanteo1973
    @ivanteo1973 Před měsícem

    I don’t have any of these bikes. No wonder I can’t win any Olympics.

  • @jazzunit8234
    @jazzunit8234 Před měsícem

    rider wins not the ride. diy carbon f100 diy build best generic parts would win 100% of the time

  • @MrSubter1
    @MrSubter1 Před měsícem +1

    The Olympics suck.

  • @pepeanza6187
    @pepeanza6187 Před měsícem

    Is not the bike dont try to sell that history you put Tom pidcock In any bike and he Is goin gold

  • @Cracke007
    @Cracke007 Před měsícem

    epic 8 was not in the olympic

  • @dombelfield881
    @dombelfield881 Před měsícem

    Don’t be sleeping on Sam gaze…..

    • @gravelDave
      @gravelDave Před měsícem

      He is 20 in the World cup rankings and dropping. Unless this is the target race of the entire season i cant see it happening.

    • @dombelfield881
      @dombelfield881 Před měsícem

      @@gravelDave 2 gold medals at commonwealth games, xcc world champ, marathon world champ, silver medal last world champs XCO, crash this year which made him drag a couple races this year but apart from that a pretty good season. I’d definitely think it’s a target race.

    • @samblenkharn8099
      @samblenkharn8099 Před měsícem

      ​@@dombelfield881fair comment. He was up there at the sharp end of the race.

  • @KingLeon2k
    @KingLeon2k Před měsícem +2

    first i think

  • @fasttimes188
    @fasttimes188 Před 11 dny

    lol pinarello won gold

  • @jimmyj3054
    @jimmyj3054 Před měsícem +2

    So no Friday fails? We already lost Saturday and Sunday please don’t take away my FF to.

  • @juanhidalgo7043
    @juanhidalgo7043 Před měsícem

    I ride stiff bikes. I have been riding pinarello road bikes for 12 years now. I only ride pinarello for races so no brainer I choose pinarello. I have never own a specialized road or mountain bikes and I have no interest on specialized brand. There are other brands better than specialized. I probably would go with an ibis EXIE USA hand made version if I had to choose between specialized or other brands. To me, pinarello is the sexiest bike. I do agree, riders win races not bikes.

  • @silver_c1oud
    @silver_c1oud Před měsícem

    Bias Towards specialized
    Especially people who ride a lot of Trail
    Pinerello for the Win im sick of XC Bike more like Trail Bikes

  • @palpatine1975
    @palpatine1975 Před měsícem +1

    It doesn't matter which bike is better, ultimately most of us cant afford them.

  • @Bierce88
    @Bierce88 Před měsícem +1

    is anyone actually watching that garbage? seriously

    • @samblenkharn8099
      @samblenkharn8099 Před měsícem

      The track was very tame but the men's race was one of the most exciting I've ever watched, just because of how it unfolded.

  • @bicikircho
    @bicikircho Před měsícem

    this video looks exactly as all the corporate compliance videos I ever went thru in 25+ years.
    only thing left out, was the final questionnaire:
    "who do you think will win the MTB gold medal?"
    A) a cyclist
    B) a mountain biker
    C) Frodo
    D) all of the above.
    what have been done to pinkbike? :facepalm: