Brahms: Variations on a Theme by Haydn, Op.56b (Argerich and Freire)

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  • @spiderwebb222
    @spiderwebb222 Před rokem +17

    Also love that the applause kicks in at the end and you suddenly realise that was a live performance. Unreal

  • @spiderwebb222
    @spiderwebb222 Před rokem +20

    No. 7 is one of the most beautiful musical passages in existence.

  • @gerontius34
    @gerontius34 Před 5 lety +31

    This is a magnificent performance by two titans of the piano. I cannot imagine any established duo piano team exceeding this.

    • @paulrevelli
      @paulrevelli Před 3 lety +1

      I agree. I have Georg Solti and Murray Perahia's recording and I thought it was the benchmark. Not any more! This was fantastic.

    • @aidentheabsurd
      @aidentheabsurd Před 25 dny

      I would recommend getting to know Radu Lupu and Murray Perahia's 1981 live recording as well. It may not be as technically perfect as this one (very few stray wrong notes here and there, though nothing inexcusable), but Lupu's and Perahia's rendition is much more rhythmically taut, the scales nearing the end of the Finale sound less muddy, and it stays closer to Brahms' original written articulation (e.g.: compare the entrance of Freire in Variation 6 with Perahia's entrance), in my experience.
      At the end of the day, who am I to judge? These world-class artists are all worth listening to. I hope I got to broaden your horizons!

    • @gerontius34
      @gerontius34 Před 21 dnem

      @@aidentheabsurd if it be anything like the legendary Lupu/Perahia Schubert F minor Fantasy, then I need to hear this!

  • @herringsinthewood
    @herringsinthewood Před 2 lety +31

    Rest in peace Mr Freire.

  • @jackfletcher1000
    @jackfletcher1000 Před 7 lety +172

    To all of you who pointed out my error in dismissing Brahms as a mediocre composer, you were right I was very wrong and some of the pieces that you recommended are now regularly listened to, thank you

    • @SpaghettiToaster
      @SpaghettiToaster Před 6 lety +24

      This is a great comment!

    • @danielhornby5581
      @danielhornby5581 Před 5 lety +10

      Schoenberg wrote about Brahms' ability as a progressive whilst looking backwards. No-one has bettered his skill in orchestration (although many are equal) and rightly takes his place as one of the 3 Bs.
      Ask the general public though and most will only have heard of Bach and Beethoven, a real shame given his mastery of all forms. Just a pity we didn't get an opera but then, Rinaldo is an epic cantata!
      My love for Brahms came as my piano teacher asked me to go out and buy his intermezzi and picked up his symphonies (Barenboim) and didn't look back.
      This particular piece I ignored for over 10 years. It was a stupid thing as it has one of the most beautiful themes I've heard, even if it's not Haydn (scholars can't prove this either way).
      Both this and op.56a are frontrunners in their respective genres, as this is a truly masterful set of variations.

    • @cufflink44
      @cufflink44 Před 5 lety +6

      Jack Fletcher I didn't see your original comment(s), but I'm glad you've come around to liking Brahms. I find him a great composer who connects with people emotionally as few have done.
      But dislike of Brahms among composers I love has always puzzled and troubled me. Benjamin Britten was notorious in his dismissal of Brahms; his putdowns could be scathing. Since I greatly admire both composers, it's hard for me to understand Britten's distaste, and I've wondered if it might have been something extra-musical that turned Britten off to Brahms.

    • @jackfletcher1000
      @jackfletcher1000 Před 5 lety +1

      @@cufflink44 Try jealousy and you will be near the mark, some of Brittan,s music is awful and i really don,t understand his popularity.

    • @timothythorne9464
      @timothythorne9464 Před 5 lety +6

      I have heard people say Brahms is mediocre and uninspired, and incapable of evoking feeling. I have never understood this as Brahms' works are among the most inventive and innovative of any composer, and are passionate and full of sincere emotion. And this extends to his works in classical forms, like sonatas and theme and variations.

  • @calebhu6383
    @calebhu6383 Před 3 měsíci +2

    The passacaglia at the end is one of the most rhythmically advanced sections of music ever written up to that point.

  • @humamghassib2685
    @humamghassib2685 Před 6 lety +22

    Sublime! One can "detect" some nuances here that one misses out in the orchestral version. Divine Brahms! Splendid Argerich and Freire!

    • @loribird7672
      @loribird7672 Před 3 lety +2

      Love love love this!!!!!! Absolutely just DIVINE

    • @regine5285
      @regine5285 Před 2 lety +1

      @@loribird7672 Zgadzam się!!!

  • @davidrehak3539
    @davidrehak3539 Před 6 lety +15

    Johannes Brahms:Változatok egy Haydn témára (2 zongorás változat)
    Téma: Chorale St. Antoni. Andante 00:00
    1.variáció:Andante con moto (Poco più animato) 01:59
    2.variáció:Vivace (Più vivace) 03:01
    3.variáció: Con moto 03:58
    4.variáció: Andante (Andante con moto) 05:44
    5.variáció: Poco presto (Vivace) 07:29
    6.variáció: Vivace 08:22
    7.variáció: Grazioso 09:38
    8.variáció: Poco presto (Presto non troppo) 12:24
    Finálé:Andante 13:13
    Martha Argerich és Nelson Freire-zongora

  • @TheSteveBerlin
    @TheSteveBerlin Před 4 lety +10

    Thank you. This is just gorgeous music. I love the orchestral version, and Brahms's piano version is superb. Opp. 56 a and b! The way old Johannes wanted it.

  • @jiseonglee1645
    @jiseonglee1645 Před 4 lety +7

    Thank you very much for your endeavor to align the score so that we can appreciate the elegant structure of this wonderful piece more closely.

  • @petermerelis
    @petermerelis Před 2 lety +8

    it's so nice to be able to hear individual voices in passages that too often are rendered as a gloppy mess of sound

  • @aceventura2237
    @aceventura2237 Před 3 lety +4

    What I like about these piano arrangements is I can hear the way I would want it arranged

    • @AndrewKierszenbaum
      @AndrewKierszenbaum Před 3 lety

      lol is this a diss? what do you mean? i’m also trying to compose for two piano and it’s so hard

    • @aceventura2237
      @aceventura2237 Před 3 lety

      @@AndrewKierszenbaum oh oops not clear enough I meant in any form quartet, symphony. This is good I have it saved, I meant I hear sections i prefer in versions of a song

    • @urbex_coasters
      @urbex_coasters Před 8 měsíci

      @@aceventura2237This is actually the original. The orchestral version is a transcription of this. It is Brahms's own transcription so there aren't the typical markings you'd expect for a transcription in the score (ie "transcribed for orchestra"/"arranged by") like you see in a piece like say, Pictures at an Exhibition (the nost common versions are by Stokowski and Ravel, but countless composers have transcribed it).

  • @johankrafft7295
    @johankrafft7295 Před 4 lety +5

    Elegant, well performed. Music is divine.

  • @RicAbapo
    @RicAbapo Před 3 lety +6

    It sounds so Christmasy 🎄

  • @MrGer2295
    @MrGer2295 Před 7 lety +5

    Beautiful ! Merry Christmas !

  • @Schlectowski
    @Schlectowski Před 7 lety +9

    One possibility is that the theme originates from Ignace Joseph Pleyel a pupil of Hayden. He founded a piano building business which later supplied Chopin.

  • @JonathanKofi
    @JonathanKofi Před 6 lety +7

    There's an orchestrated version of this too.. Worth checking out!

    • @philip.stigaard
      @philip.stigaard Před 3 lety +2

      I think the original was the version from orchestra and then Brahms also transcribed it to two pianos. It’s definitely worth it to listen to it

  • @davecollins2956
    @davecollins2956 Před 8 lety +10

    You can certainly see where Focus got their Hamburger Concerto made!

    • @AndreJorgeOliveira1
      @AndreJorgeOliveira1 Před 7 lety +1

      Not made, but it was inspired by this piece. And it was called Hamburger concerto because of it - Hamburg is Brahms city! Focus guys know a lot about classical music. They actually used it many other times. Moving Waves has the long suite on the B side of the LP inspired by Bartok's Concerto for Orchestra.

    • @timothythorne9464
      @timothythorne9464 Před 5 lety +1

      I'll have this concerto with two all beef patties, special sauce, lettuce, cheese, pickles, onions on a Sesame Street bun, por favor.

    • @rogerhennie8939
      @rogerhennie8939 Před 3 lety

      If Brahms could do his variations on a theme by Haydn, why shouldn't Focus do their variations on Brahms' variations on Haydn.....

  • @piano1500
    @piano1500 Před 8 lety +16

    Do you know of any place to get a detailed analysis of these variations and also the Handel variations?

    • @SpaghettiToaster
      @SpaghettiToaster Před 6 lety

      Try searching google scholar!

    • @AnyOldMusic
      @AnyOldMusic Před 3 lety +3

      Alan Belkin presents a concise analysis of the Handel variation in his book “Musical Composition”, while discussing Variation Form (Chapter 10). ... if you’re still searching, 5-years on!?

  • @regine5285
    @regine5285 Před 2 lety +1

    Cudowne!!! Piękne!

  • @GerGV
    @GerGV Před 3 lety +3

    There is an ad after each variation... not worth watching.

  • @BenEmberley
    @BenEmberley Před rokem

    2:00 to 3:01 is my favourite bit

  • @carmina2566
    @carmina2566 Před 7 lety +4

    magnifique

  • @TimondeNood
    @TimondeNood Před 6 lety +3

    That finale :o

  • @penzio7
    @penzio7 Před 2 lety +1

    R.I.P Nelson Freire

  • @barney6888
    @barney6888 Před 6 lety +3

    that 8th variation...

  • @prestonlust5456
    @prestonlust5456 Před 4 lety +2

    Thirty years ago, I had the good fortune to meet Brahms. After meeting him, his music makes a lot more sense to me. Truly an exceptional man - very kind and gracious. Free the Falun Gong!

    • @jockmoron
      @jockmoron Před 4 lety +2

      Hmmm??? Brahms died in 1897.

    • @abelpalmer552
      @abelpalmer552 Před 3 lety

      Yeah he died in 1897 and was famous for being neither kind nor gracious....but nice try

    • @ryankennedy3109
      @ryankennedy3109 Před 2 lety

      @@abelpalmer552 I'm guessing it's a joke but I don't know enough about Falun Gong to get it...

  • @edwardloh1855
    @edwardloh1855 Před 7 lety +9

    Who played the first piano?

    • @AndreJorgeOliveira1
      @AndreJorgeOliveira1 Před 7 lety +6

      Freire, I am almost sure.

    • @sfd373
      @sfd373 Před 7 lety +7

      Edward Loh I agree. Second piano has more staccato attack and spontaneity, first piano is more lyrical and measured.

    • @EmilianoManna
      @EmilianoManna Před 7 lety +3

      Martha usually plays 2nd piano in his duo repertoire

    • @kreisleriana9624
      @kreisleriana9624 Před 3 lety +3

      No, Martha always played first piano in this particular piece.

    • @dedikandrej
      @dedikandrej Před rokem +2

      Argerich 1st Freire 2nd
      I checked the original recording cover (2009 @Salzburg) which contains the Programme as well.
      For each piece the order of names are attributed to order of parts, here it’s Argerich Freire (and for Schubert it’s presented as Freire Argerich)

  • @guyteston811
    @guyteston811 Před 6 lety +2

    where is the video of this record ????

  • @steffen5121
    @steffen5121 Před rokem

    The finale is best

  • @vyacheslavmorgunov9357
    @vyacheslavmorgunov9357 Před 5 měsíci

    Not the parallel but the same-name (or so, I don't know the English therminology) minor! 2nd var

  • @yuchanbot
    @yuchanbot Před 4 lety +2

    holy shit the passacaglia...

  • @Tristan-zt8tw
    @Tristan-zt8tw Před rokem

    Who composed the original theme then?

  • @alinerjaku
    @alinerjaku Před 2 lety

    ❤️

  • @ridelhouse
    @ridelhouse Před 11 měsíci

    5:44

  • @danielpicha630
    @danielpicha630 Před rokem

    What opus is this from Haydn?

  • @ravelian
    @ravelian Před 2 lety

    the very beginning sounds like k331

  • @cilabanfi3335
    @cilabanfi3335 Před rokem

    🥰❤️

  • @Ysy85263
    @Ysy85263 Před 5 lety +3

    변주곡 형태의 세도막형식

  • @mia35545
    @mia35545 Před 5 lety +2

    sfasamenti di metrica

  • @justinzlabys5260
    @justinzlabys5260 Před 2 lety

    9:38

  • @Hajnikovmuz
    @Hajnikovmuz Před 8 lety +2

    who are the performers, please?

  • @sanghoonlee5171
    @sanghoonlee5171 Před rokem

    13:14

  • @jeffreyemge5435
    @jeffreyemge5435 Před 3 lety

    01'03"

  • @DaninMaine
    @DaninMaine Před 10 měsíci

    Brahms was such a glorious weirdo!

  • @cerritelliinternationalmus5558

    Tempi troppo snelli... Comunque stratosferici!!

  • @brunocoliveira89
    @brunocoliveira89 Před 4 lety +1

    Andante con moto = fast as fuck!

    • @Finger112
      @Finger112 Před 4 lety +1

      more like Allegretto con moto! That variation was played way too quickly.

  • @cilabanfi3335
    @cilabanfi3335 Před rokem

    4-8-igkarácsonyi mézest sütöttem...most pihenem ki magam.....

  • @nickpapworth72
    @nickpapworth72 Před 8 lety +1

    You sound very knowledgeable, as I'm sure you are, but it seems unlikely that Brahms would have called them Variations on a Theme by Haydn if it was someone else's theme or even an original one. And why 'as it turns out'? Could you or your source possibly be wrong?

    • @AshishXiangyiKumar
      @AshishXiangyiKumar  Před 8 lety +34

      There's a huge amount of research that has been done on this subject: a simple google search will suffice to unearth many of the relevant papers. (There's a reason why most people know this set of variations by the name "Variations on the St. Antoni Chorale", rather than as Variations on a Theme by Haydn.)
      Brahms didn't know it was not a theme by Haydn: at the time he obtained the score (a divertimento whose second movement was called a "Chorale St. Antoni"), it contained an attribution to Haydn. It was common for publishers to attribute obscure works to better-known composers to increase sales.

  • @yaakovrotil8951
    @yaakovrotil8951 Před 3 lety +1

    Cela ne m'étonne pas de Martha Argeritch: tout en force, rien en nuance... C'est ainsi que l'on "exécute" une belle oeuvre...

    • @romainlabaye
      @romainlabaye Před 2 lety

      Cette oeuvre adaptée pour deux pianos se joue comme ça. Ecoutez la version de Joe Zawinul et Friedrich Gulda, c'est pareil. Au passage, il y a bel et bien des nuances. Encore faudrait-il que vous ayez dépassé les 2 minutes...