Therapist Reacts To: The Great War by Taylor Swift
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- čas přidán 30. 10. 2022
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This is actually my favorite song from Midnights. She’s reflecting on herself, her past, how it affected her relationship, and how she overcame her fears and untrustworthiness with the help of her partner. So after the great war she finally she can vow not to fight, because she’s free from her trauma and past.
I admire her for such self reflection, honesty and ability to admit her faults.
She’s very brave
that is one of the most beautiful songs she has ever written, I just love it...
I agree
Same it's my favourite really 😭
I know right? I've never experienced anything like this in a relationship but it's so so powerful
I posted a cover of this song on my channel too! would mean a lot if you check it out 🥰
Yes babe 😢❤️❤️
11:00 "she almost lost him because of her own inner demons, her own inner issues" ... kind of like in Anti-Hero, "it's me, Hi, I'm the problem it's me" and the chalkboard, 'everyone will betray you'
damn
This song is so emotional to me. I've been with my partner for a long time now and my triggers and past trauma have caused issues we had awful fights because of something I mishandled and was not even a big deal but I felt at the moment so triggered and scared, he has been so patience with me and I admire him for being so thoughtful with me and so loving even during those hard times. It is amazing how talented Taylor is that she can share these experiences and make you feel so connected with the song message.
The same is happening to me right now. I’m wishing you the best!
It’s makes me so emotional to hear this song but happy at the same time
She is so honest. Most of us don’t speak about the Great War we had in our relationships and I’m glad she shared with us because it doesn’t make what happens in my/our lives so isolating 🥺
We had our own Great War a few months ago I know the pain of being in that moment but we have come out on the other side better 🥰 and I’m soo happy that she will alway be with him because she deserves the say his loves and happiness ❤
This is one of my fav songs on the album! So underrated!
I really feel that this song is her remembering the Great War past tense and her song Afterglow from Lover is the ‘in the moment’ perspective. Soooo many allusions to afterglow in this song. Also the first line of the chorus in afterglow is like a premature version of antihero.
this gave me the same feeling i get from listening to afterglow. this was really insightful. sucks how trauma changes people and how it hinders them from trusting their partner wholeheartedly and loving them more freely; how the smallest things can be so triggering. i feel her because i'm the same. and this is what i love about taylor's songs-so vulnerable and honest. as somone who's also struggling from her own inner demons and intrusive thoughts, it feels nice to be heard; to be able to understand myself, my own issues and what i'm going through. it makes me realize that i really needed therapy lol. thank you for this analysis.
I immediately thought of After Glow when I first heard this as well. It definitely seems like she’s writing about the same moment in time. It must’ve really affected her for her to still be reflecting on it.
@@Love-so7rs yeah, trauma doesn't really go away but we need to heal to manage it and thrive with it. from the looks of it, it seems like she's able to overcome her struggles.
HI!! I posted a cover of this song on my channel too! would mean a lot if you check it out 🥰
@@Love-so7rs it must’ve been a hard time in their relationship that she had to let go of the issues from her past and just break out of her old habits and patterns which she’s mentioned in other songs of him calling her on her tricks ( I forget the word she used but it’s like games or something to that affect) he called her out and this relationship is so different than her others. And she was probably like “oh wow someone who sees right through me” woah and kinda reverted inward and had to work through her issues and he stuck by her side despite her probably not treating him all that well (like blaming him for things he didn’t do) because she was working through her past.
Death by a thousand cuts as a similar vibe as well
Also like the imagery of crismon clover layered with the stop and go (red and green) of the relationship - this song is SO deep and layered
“But diesel is desire, you were playin' with fire”. Thanks for explaining this. I definitely think you hit the nail on the head when you said she was threatening to burn them down. I’ve connected this song to the same event in After Glow since I first heard it, and in after glow she says, “I'm the one who burned us down“. I recommend that song if you haven’t heard it. There’s so many parallels it can’t not be about the same event. The ONLY difference is in After Glow she’s still asking for reassurance and in this song she seems to already have it. She’s confidant about their future together now. It’s all so sweet.
i don’t know if you’ve listened to them already, but Peace and Sweet Nothing are two other songs about taylor and joe that are definitely worth listening to and tell you more about their relationship. in Peace she asks him whether she’s enough since she could never give him actual peace because of everything she’s been through (it can also be viewed as having a significant other that has a mental illness) and fans speculate that Sweet Nothing can be seen as joe’s response (especially because he helped co-write the song)
two very sweet songs and i’d love it if you reacted to them!!
Second this for sure. Peace and Sweet Nothing both are favorites of mine as they both remind me of my relationship with my husband - I have a lot of disabilities and Peace hit me HARD about the guilt I feel about what I can “contribute” to a relationship, what my value is. And then Sweet Nothing was just this reminder that you don’t have to do anything to earn happiness and love and peace, and you’re allowed to not want to have more than just quiet contentment. Just such good pieces of music. Taylor continues to be a lyrical genius first and foremost.
Joe and Taylor wrote solemate music and I love it
Fun fact: The poppy is the enduring symbol of remembrance of the First World War. It is strongly linked with Armistice Day (11 November), but the poppy's origin as a popular symbol of remembrance lies in the landscapes of the First World War. Poppies were a common sight, especially on the Western Front.
Again, very on theme. She's really the queen of cohesion, hahahah.
this is great context, thank you
It’s truly amazing how your mind can pull these lyrics apart and make it make sense to us. I’m so glad I found your channel, Mere!
I agree "Maybe it's the past that's talking, screaming from a crypt"
also reminded me of "The tomb won't close" from W,C,S
Maybe she recognized some of the problems of her current relationship stemmed from the trauma of "that" past relationship, which also connects the songs.
It's sad to watch this now that they have broken up
I love this song so much, it reminds me personally of my depression and how much my parents tried to help me, even when I rejected their help. Even when I pushed my family away, they still reached for my hand. I'm doing a lot better now, but middle school, high school, college and post-college was really hard for me. My parents paid for me to go to therapy and a psychiatrist after college and I honestly think that saved my life.
Omg thank you for sharing this! Yes, I so see this too and I’m so happy that you are on the other side and got support. We all need it at times and yes to your parents!!! ♥️
This is one of my favorite songs off the entire album.
"this relationship has been so deep that it will bring the past thing up to the surface" this kind of reminded me of you drew stars around my scars and now I'm bleeding because to me it signified that the person was really good to her and it reminded her of the time when other people in similar situations weren't good to her and it opened up old wounds. And of course, that hurts but it also allows you to heal
Loved this! It´s such a great song. Equating fighting to war is obvious but she does it so beautifully in this song. The parallels to afterglow are brilliant they really are sister songs. The nature references, violets, poppies, clover, morning glory plants is so folkore/evermore. Clover is a legume that puts nitrates in the soil so other plants can grow. To me the "maybe it was her" line is referencing her ego because of the previous line. A great video, thank you.
Ooooo yes yes!!!!
What an amazing reaction...I see this song forever different now that you have opened it up...I'm sure this album is Taylor saying...this is putting the past behind me...I've said everything I need to say...and now I'm just looking forward to the future...If apart from the TV versions we have yet to get...Taylor writes more songs about her past...I will be proved wrong. But I don't think so...Thank you for this reaction loved it
Are the TV versions actually a verifiable thing or just a fan theory
@@stephravin8597 For sure they are real..already had Fearless TV & RedTV
"It turned into something bigger
Somewhere in the haze got a sense I'd been betrayed
Your finger on my hair pin triggers
Hold you down on that icy ground
Looked up at me with honor and truth
Broken and blue, so I called off the troops
That was the night I nearly lost you"
So incredibly open and honest and clever. He did something that set off her internal alarm and she was ready to destroy the relationship until she realized he had good intentions, and did not betray her, and she was reacting to past trauma and had to metaphorically "call off the troops" and stop punishing him for things he didn't do. Really hits home to anyone who has met the partner who takes their shit and loves them anyhow, while also making them realize they don't deserve the reaction they are getting.
This is my story. This is about pushing away, and fighting the love you so desperately want to accept, and then finally giving up and realizing that you're only hurting yourself.
It’s such a beautiful song. One of my favourites. She’s so vulnerable here
I may be off on this, but since I've only ever heard of a *hair* trigger (no pin involved), I took the phrase "your finger on my hairpin trigger" as Taylor's way of alluding to the fact that the hair trigger is in her head/her mind.
i think afterglow and archer also give this feeling of betrayal and of not being able to trust someone again because of trauma. “all my enemies started as frieds” - archer
Your Taylor reactions are quickly become my favorite! I didn't know that about crimson clover, I was trying (unsuccessfully) to tie it to that song by Tommy James and the Shondelles but your take makes much more sense.
No, you’re right. Tommy James & The Shondells explained that the mix of “Crimson” and “Clover” explores a love that could develop into some beautiful and moving the motions to keep someone. Lyrically, the story plays out more directly in the song:
Ah, now I don’t hardly know her
But I think I could love her
Crimson and clover
But since then Crimson & Clover has been used in that same context to reference this very same thing, as well as the process of grief when you have lost someone or think you may be losing a romantic partner. It fits perfectly with this song. Lana Del Ray uses the crimson clover lyrics in one of her songs from years ago as well and she also worked on this album with Taylor. Dessner (who produced the song) is a big fan of Crimson & Clover as well. Jimmy Eat World made the crimson & clover reference in their A Praise Chorus song from 2001’s Bleed American. It has been used in this same context dozen’s and dozen’s of times by many different artists. I love that Taylor used it because there literally could not have been a better fit for this song contextually. But yes, you are right there. You’ve just gotta know a little more about musical history and lyrical history to get this one. It’s not meant to be such a literal reference, as in the actual plant itself.
All the war/battle references with the instruments made to sound like war too. She’s a genius.
And to think that her and Aaron worked on The Great War and Could’ve, Would’ve, Should’ve together 🥹
The way I interpret the line “There’s no morning glory, it was war, it wasn’t fair” is like, she woke up the next morning after they had a big fight and literally one or the other didn’t feel good about “winning” the argument, because it was “war” and bad things were said and like referencing back to knowing the other persons secrets and knowing what to say to really hurt them. So the “win” wasn’t fair because they “played dirty” basically.
This song reminds me of the 2nd verse of Cornelia Street where she talks about when they were "card sharks, playing games, I thought you were leading me on" and she left, but then he "called, showed your hand, I turned around" pointing again to the insecurities she has and the process of learning to trust the person you're with. Lyrical genius.
The way you explained about the lyrics is just beautiful. This is the time I pressed Suscribe button to your channel. Thanks so much for your beautiful explanation.
Thank you for this explanation. I was not clear about a lot of things which you explained well. It is such an emotional song. The line “ I vowed I will always be yours if we survive the great war” makes me so emotional.
Morning glory is a double-meaning. Coming back from a victorious war, you're given glory, you're the one still standing, you're hailed a hero. But those who fight it know that's it's not glorious, it's not bright and good and noble. It's messy and often dishonorable, and you do what you have to in order to survive. And she did that, it's kept her who she is this long, but it wasn't fair. She didn't come out 'winning,' there was no honor or glory to it. It was war, it was battle, it was survival (emotionally). I love the duality of the images here, the war and the flowers. Also like how flowers and war are juxtaposed, usually they are considered opposites, the flower child vs the warrior, lover vs fighter, and in this, she has to come to terms with being both.
You are amazing. As much as I may of realized this was about a fight between her & Joe. You, explained it beautifully. Thank you
I haven’t heard your insight into the Plant and Gardening references anywhere else-so fascinating! Thanks for showing us those deeper meanings.
I love this song, it's probably my favorite from the album! I love how she used the metaphor of a war and made flower references to describe this hard time they had in their relationship.
Please, make a video for High Infidelity next! It's another song produced by Aaron on Midnights and I love it.
11:25 to complete this thought, I think poppies used to grow a lot on trenches and battlefields during times of war. The "myth" goes as if flowers grew in theses locations specifically to remember the fallen soldiers with the association of their colour to the blood of these men. From this, the connection to the theme of the song becomes obvious :)
Poppies are also the symbol for Remembrance Day, Nov 11th, which commemorates the end of World War I (aka The Great War). We wear poppies on Nov 11th in Canada and I think in the UK as well.
Ahhhh this is right on point! Wish I would have remembered that in the moment. This is why I kind of want to think about things before reacting. I wonder if people would be okay with that? Nevertheless, thank you for watching ❤
@@mendwithmere I always remember more stuff after letting songs sink in a bit more. Maybe you could react like you already do now, but put a segment at the end, recorded a little bit afterwards where you talk about the things that you remembered afterwards?
I really enjoy your in the moment reactions :)
HI!! I posted a cover of this song on my channel too! would mean a lot if you check it out 🥰
First sec I saw I immediately clicked
Wow! What an insightful reaction. Loved how your broke it down, it highlighted once again what a MASTERFUL and honest songwriter Taylor is :)
The poppy imagery made me cry 😢 The references to veterans of war is incredibly moving in this context.
This song is so beautiful. Love your intakes, please keep doing this!
this reminds me of how I ruined my first relationship. I was depressed, insecure, and I was so hurt I just needed for him to feel just as miserable. I needed to bring him down. He left me. it was 5 years ago and we were 17, so you know, nowhere near being wise, but looking at it now, these lyrics just remind me of that. “telling me to punish you for things you never did, so I justified it” I did it, because I was in pain. Now I have matured (slightly lol) and am in a healthy relationship (4 years going on) and I just cannot imagine putting my partner through what I did in my previous relationship. I did not survive the great war with my previous partner, but I grew. A lot
I honestly love your reactions so much! You're so emotionally intelligent and the insight you bring breaking down the lyrics so well and so accurately is truly impressive. I look forward to your future videos! Living for the Taylor content!!
Thank you so much for reacting to this!! I really love this so much and your reaction is very insightful as well!!
You look so beautiful with your outfit and makeup btw :)
Love these videos you’re making analyzing the songs! Thanks!
I love your reaction to this song sooo much! Thank you for making me appreciate this song more 🖤💗
I think this is why she stayed with Joe, even after things started to turn bad. I think she felt like she owed it to him, since he helped her heal from her demons. But I think he started to feel resentment and apathy towards her at the end of the relationship. She desperately wanted things to work out, after all they had been through. She tried to stay in the prison of the relationship. I hadn't heard this song before the breakup, since I'm a fairly new Swiftie. Only about 6 months or so. It makes me think a little better of Joe, but I still think he led her on and left her to dangle around at the end.
LOVED LOVED LOVED YOUR REACTION to this masterpiece😍 thank you so much
I'm really loving your perspective and breakdown of the lyrics, thanks for the TS content
Crimson & clover is referenced a lot in song lyrics since Crimson & Clover was released by Tommy James & The Shondells in the 60’s. It was covered later by Joan Jett in the 80’s, has been referenced by Jimmy Eat World, Lana Del Ray (who worked on this album with TS) and now Taylor. Dessner who produced The Great War is also a big fan of the original song. Crimson Clover is commonly used in lyrical writing to reference the loss of someone you love and going through the stages of grief associated with that. It’s in tons of songs across many genre’s since it was first referenced in the early 60’s in Crimson & Clover and it’s always used in this context, same situation here with The Great War and is very appropriate for this song.
i live for these videos. thank you so much🤍
As a therapist you know that people break up way before they actually break up
Thank you for helping me understand it. English is not my first language and I had no idea about the flowers and meanings.
This is so profound and made my cry!
Please do that with all midnight lyrics
You are so smart and sensitive at the same time😻😻 you are definitely my favourite for reaction videos to taylor's music! Your videos are my new hobby 🤗
This song remember me to Afterglow from Lover. When she said "I blew things out of proportion, now you're blue. Put you in jail for something you didn't do. I pinned your hands behind your back. Thought I had reason to attack, but no" If you could do that song too ♥
Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts on this beautiful beautiful song. I’m so grateful to you 🙏❤️
I would never have realized the depth of the crimson clover bit had I never watched this video. I love your content.
You’re analysis is my favorite so far. I learned so much!!
Obsessed with the fact that the abstract painting behind you was in fact a big bird this whole time
Been hoping you would post a video today! Great insight, love this song so much
I absolutely love your reactions!!
I am so happy for her and honestly her songs when you truly listen, and I always do have always just been just a testament to growing. Whether is was learning love isn't what you thought it was, being excited by new cities or experiences, storytelling, heartbreak, and unresolved trauma, or love being exactly what you hoped for all along. I think her recent albums give me hope because while we may not have had the same circumstance, I feel the same when I listen to songs like these and maybe if she had found love and is healing I can too in my own time.
This song helped me through lots of things mainly when my friend betrayed me after I trusted them. Every time I here it I almost cry when it says “somewhere in the haze got a sense I’d been betrayed”
I always get excited when I get a notification that you've uploaded a new Taylor reaction, and this one didn't disappoint! I love how Taylor used imagery in this song and all the references to flowers and your explanations! I'm excited to see which song you react to next, from Midnights I would love to see Maroon (has another flower reference), Midnight Rain, Anti-Hero, and Dear Reader!
Also, would love to see you react some Paramore songs, especially from After Laughter - specifically Forgiveness, 26, and Tell Me How. They tackle some really interesting topics surrounding depression, relationships, etc. and I think you could give some great analysis!
Just binged watched all your videos! LOVE THEM
My favorite song. Thank you for reacting 💙
that’s one of my favorites ❤ love your reactions!!!! 🥰
This song Is truly beautiful, loved the video!
Thank you SO MUCH for doing this series. I’ve been obsessed with this album, discovering something new every day and wanting to know just what they’re about.
I woke up with this song in my head and listened to it this morning several times just wondering hmmm. I think “spineless in my tomb of silence” and “took the battle underground” is like, she didn’t speak up when she should have maybe. Like she kept something behind the scenes instead of confronting someone publicly?
Please never stop posting these reactions!!!!
I wish she perform this live! Really one of my fav. On midnights album
thank you so much for making these videos
I actually think the crimson clover was a reference to the clover in her song Ivy, but now they're covered in blood which is crimson. Clover is a symbol of hope and luck and young love, but her clover is crimson and on a battlefield now.
Your reaction videos are amazing and the lyrical analysis is so accurate! Looking forward to see more of these video. It’d be great if you could react to exile(folklore) and coney island(evermore) from her previous albums!
I already loved this song but this analysis made me feel so sentimental 😭
This opened my eyes to a whole new perspective. I loved your reaction. Definitely a new subscriber.
Yess, this is my top 3 with midnight rain and bigger than the whole sky. It connect with Afterglow from Lover, where she accept that she is punishing her counterpart form things they didn't do, just because her past experiences. Keep going, I'm a fan of this channel and you already. ❤️
Thank you for clarifying crimson clovers. Looking forward to Bigger Than a Whole Sky...
Oh wow, you're from pretty near me in Ohio! That's awesome. Loving these videos.
Thank you, this helped me better understand the meaning of the song 🥺
Love your reactions ❤ Would love to hear your thoughts on some of her older songs like Haunted
I love seeing your reactions to Taylor, I feel like you give me other perspectives to songs I've heard many, many times. Hopefully you can check out "Right were you left me" if you ask me one of her best compositions.
I love your look today!! Absolutely gorgeous
One of my favorites from the album. I don’t know if it’s just me but after finishing season 1 of House of the Dragon I relate this song so much to so many characters of the show. Especially Rhaenyra and Alicent 😢
I loved your points of view !
Maroon and The Great War is my favorite songs on the album
Yes ptsd is a thing and I'm healed from all my drama in this lifetime I promise. I'm healing from my past lifetimes now. I'm a rare empath and hold others pain so you see the reason for me making everyone get in touch with their own emotions
I love your videos you say and break it down amazingly. Everyone I have interpreted the same ❤
i think what you’re referencing about clovers is that they’re good at nitrogen fixation, which is when the atmospheric nitrogen is turned into usable nutrients!
im loving your interpretation of her music and i cant wait to get to bigger than the whole sky because that song absolutely destroys me. it makes me want to set up a telehealth appointment with you just to see what advice you would have for me even though i already have a therapist lol
This must be my favorite song so far
Her poison all alone. She’s talking about alcohol. She’s referred to her drinking along before.
Calling off the troops. It’s not other people it’s her stopping attacking him. It’s just a part of the imagery..troops.
Mere, you sound like a really nice person. Keep up the videos.
Thanks for this!!
Have only been in one relationship in my life which was online and very not serious, but I still relate to this so much. I can't even trust friends or family at times..
I love you !
Very beautifully expressed
My knuckles were bruised like violets
Sucker punching walls, cursed you as I sleep-talked
Spineless in my tomb of silence
Tore your banners down, took the battle underground
And maybe it was ego swinging
Maybe it was her
Flashes of the battle come back to me in a blur
All that bloodshed, crimson clover
Uh-huh, sweet dream was over
My hand was the one you reached for
All throughout the Great War
Always remember
Uh-huh, tears on the letter
I vowed not to cry anymore
If we survived the Great War
You drew up some good faith treaties
I drew curtains closed, drank my poison all alone
You said I have to trust more freely
But diesel is desire, you were playin' with fire
And maybe it's the past that's talkin'
Screamin' from the crypt
Tellin' me to punish you for things you never did
So I justified it
All that bloodshed, crimson clover
Uh-huh, the bombs were close and
My hand was the one you reached for
All throughout the Great War
Always remember
Uh-huh, the burning embers
I vowed not to fight anymore
If we survived the Great War
Uh-huh
Uh-huh
It turned into something bigger
Somewhere in the haze, got a sense I'd been betrayed
Your finger on my hair pin triggers
Soldier down on that icy ground
Looked up at me with honor and truth
Broken and blue, so I called off the troops
That was the night I nearly lost you
I really thought I lost you
We can plant a memory garden
Say a solemn prayer, place a poppy in my hair
There's no morning glory, it was war, it wasn't fair
And we will never go back
To that bloodshed, crimson clover
Uh-huh, the worst was over
My hand was the one you reached for
All throughout the Great War
Always remember
Uh-huh, we're burned for better
I vowed I would always be yours
'Cause we survived the Great War
Uh-huh
Uh-huh
I would always be yours
'Cause we survived the Great War
Uh-huh
I vowed I would always be yours
Haha!! And here I was thinking that "crimson clover" meant the metaphorical "blood" on a "battle field" after a HUGE fight!! Haha!! Silly me!! I didn't know it was a plant!! LOL You can tell I don't garden or know anything about plants/flowers!! 😏😅
My favorite song on midnights besides WCS and karma cause it’s a bop. Beautiful story telling 💗 actually the whole album is great
I feel like everyone’s missing the point of “maybe it was her” lyric. I believe Taylor’s referring to herself in that lyric, as just immediately before it she sings, “maybe it was egos swinging” including her own + in much of the song she sings about HER own past essentially sabotaging her mind and perspective of Joe
Ah, such a good point!
Revisiting… I guess they didn’t survive The GreatER War” :(
In my overactive imagination, this song ties with the one that follows it 'Bigger Than the Whole Sky'. If she did in fact have a miscarriage, it makes sense (in my head) that the 'Great War' was one where they went through something so big and scarring and in that mess she more or less took out her grief and pain on him instead of trying to hold onto him and lean on his for support, acknowledging his pain too while he held on and never gave up on her and on their relationship. Again, all in my overactive imagination.
100% I agree with you. I’ve been thinking this all week and you are the first comment I’ve seen over multiple videos that shares this thought!
The song starts with the immediate grief of the miscarriage and the unfairness of it all, and then Taylor retreating into herself to grieve and having memories of the event. All the while Joe was reaching for her in support and for support, drawing up good faith treaties and reaching for her hand. Then this created greater distance from him, bringing up her trust issues from her past. Then it all reached a pinnacle where they turned a corner and agreed to work on it together. Then they grieved the child together (memory garden). And ultimately their relationship is stronger through this experience.
Key lyrics with this theory, sort of hinting at a miscarriage??:
- ‘Maybe it was her, flashes of the battle come back to me in a blur’
- ‘Spineless in my tomb of silence’ Some womb imagery double meaning???
- ‘Sweet dream was over’
- ‘We can plant a memory garden’
- ‘There’s no morning glory, it was war it wasn’t fair’
- ‘Bloodshed, crimson clover’
It was about her friend Claire Winters late term miscarriage.
I was thinking the exact same thing...Good to know I'm not alone.