1 Year Review | Transfer Case + Gearbox (from Winchester Gears)
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- This is our 1 year review of our rebuilt transfer case LT230 and gearbox MT82 from Winchester Gears installed last year on our Land Rover Defender 110 Puma engine. Adding this to our LOF Clutches extreme output shaft and power spec clutch kit. Serious upgrade to increase durability and reliabilty of the transmission, especially for heavy loaded 4wd camper.
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Tell us if you also had a bad experience with a craftsman 😕
To distinguish any possible oil leak coming out of the GB or the transfer case you can add Fluorescent Leak Detector Dye For all ENGINE OIL
TRANSMISSION
POWER STEERING
FUEL SYSTEM
*UV DYE*
It works with the UV light so add to one of the parts and to find out use the UV light to see any possible leak
If is not shiny fluorescent is the other part
If is shiny is obviously where is coming out from
Nice parts excellent choice 🍻👊🏽
Sorry to hear about the bad experiences as well
You've got the patience of a saint.....not sure I would have put up with all those problems
We're still super angry and this craftsman doesn't deserve any more of our attention ;) we have way more interesting things going on !
Thanks for the update, hope new parts now issue free
all good for the moment
I bought an excellent Winchester transfer case and couldn't remove the old Speedo drive from my case. Tom was most helpful and once we identified the correct one he posted one out very promptly and free of charge. Top service.
It is a lovely piece of kit and works a treat along with the LOF output shaft and clutch kit. I have Nigels diffs front and back and they are shear works of art and extremely solid. There is a noticeable weight difference between standand diff and Nigel's superior version. Though he is a busy chap so don't expect a quick turnaround but it's more than worth the wait.
You are on the right path.
Ashcroft half shafts and uprated CVS on mine and I am happy with them and I have bought parts from them before and they all worked well.
Good to hear you also had good experience with Winchester Gears. We're also happy with the setup with LOF parts and do feel Nigel is the one we need to help us upgrade our diff.
Can't fault the work Tom did for me on my gearbox and transfer box. Really well made and went to visit to drop them off and collect. A really nice experience.
You also won't regret your decision to get Nigel to whisper to your diffs. Mine are amazing. Again went to drop them off and collect and had a good chat to decide exactly how they should be built.
Love the videos. Look forward to seeing more adventures.
Thanks! I think we do need to do a trip to the UK to meet Nigel, the diff whisperer (lol), and tour a little to meet Winchester Gears and LOF too and other nice Companies. How long you have Winchester Gears parts on?
@@offtrackfamily I've had the Winchester and Nigel's diffs on since middle of lockdown. Can't fault them. They are behind an OM606 running reasonably high power. Just taken the gearbox out though as going 8 speed auto. Nothing wrong with gearbox but clutch is really heavy due to power.
Hi guys, another brilliant video. You are always smiling, no matter how bad things get you always look at the positive side and dont let idiots get you down. Cant wait till next instalment and your lovely smile.😄
Haha absolutely 😉 and even if we're still angry we have way more important things to deal with ;)
I have had an 2019 R380 Ashcroft gearbox and LT 230 transfer box for 50,000 miles (80k km +) and it's as good as new, no leaks, no issues. I am happy and will use the again. I also had as Ashcroft LT230 transfer box 20 years ago and went to Africa 5 times including a full trans Sahara off road trip and back - no issues apart from hot oil. Solution - a bigger transfer box sump. Otherwise - absolutely no probs and the car went on for 200k miles (300km) with it's next owner as a tree surgeons truck.
Ashcroft parts are good and we might have not been very lucky on the assembly for the LT230. Great to hear and confirm it's possible to have no issues just like we did for more than 100k km
thank you for the informative video. if its a good reliable solution, we could all use that.
Absolutely :)
Hola.
Me alegro de que se haya solucionado el problema.
Cuando el coche empieza con averías importantes, te desilusiona bastante, y sobre todo cuando los talleres mecánicos no son los suficientemente profesionales para realizar y sobre todo garantizar una reparación o modificación del vehículo.
Saludos cordiales.
That was indeed a really problematic situation and we're also glad it's all good now
Ahh yes, the Lt230 leak. I just use it like Ariadne's thread so I can always find my Defender. Then its purpose is to mark its territory to warn the other 4x4s away. Shame its such a faff to top the oil up otherwise I would put up with it indefinitely. Though for the cost of an uprated gearbox I can afford to spend plenty of time grovelling about underneath her. Another benefit is that the handbrake housing flings the oil everywhere resulting in natural rustproofing.
It's good to see the positive sides ;)
I'm about 2 weeks into an Ashcroft Transmissions LT230 transfer case with the sleeving, installed by a local Landy specialist. I'm sorry to hear you went through what you went through. I'm hoping to have a better story on my TD5 90!
I think I have a Winchester Gears diff I've had for a couple of years now, not yet installed. Also I think I've spoken to Nigel on the phone before, or maybe it was through text or email. Really nice guy!
Nigel was really helpful and hope all will go well with your LT230. We might have been unlucky with ours so no reason for yours to have issues :)
It’s only on rare occasions you find a vehicle that doesn’t always have a problem.
We often have things happening, but, on the other hand, we do use our vehicle a lot, so this could be true
I’m sure you covered it in another video, but I can’t find it lol. You’ve got so many awesome vids!
Anyways… are you running the standard 3.54 gearing in the diffs? At least I think it’s 3.54 in Defenders. And are your diffs pegged?
Thanks!
Great video as usual,
But a little rough naming Ashcroft, when sounds like the leak could have been picked up with a preinstall check of the casing, but didn't name the "french craftsman" who completely butchered the job.....
However, agree with your review of Winchester, im getting an LT230 built by them now, service and communication has been absolutely outstanding.
Ashcroft does make great parts but Winchester Gears' service in our case is way above. We also have a full Ashcroft HD transmission so we are customers of both companies and did experience it this way. French craftsman is so insignificant in the International Land Rover community that there's no reason any of our viewers would go to him. People who may be concerned already know and asked because of all the open drama he did on facebook exposing his way of treating customers. But i feel you want the name ;) MC Repairs in La Celle, France
Having persuaded my daughter to get a Discovery 3 for her adventures and got her a great car, she still can't shake the Defender bug! Your car and set up is a great example of how to build a good expedition vehicle. So as and when I do get her a Defender I know where to start. One question I do have is about the clutch. What clutch do you have and has moving to a Winchester transmission helped make it more drivable?
Lucky daughter ;) we have a powerspec LOF clutch. A Defender will stay a Defender so I don't think replacing parts will change its driving. We went for more durable and reliable parts regarding our heavy setup
connaissez-vous city garage,marc blaser à neuchâtel?,ils ont une longue expérience avec land rover et surtout ceux qui sont modifiés
Nous ne connaissons pas, merci d'avoir partagé :)
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if that guy is a real as***le he bought it for back himself and the "friend" was just a cover up.
But I can tell you: You are not alone. I have had a series of mechanics failing on my former truck with 10 episodes, charging work they didn´t do (2.500€) or making simple work complex and so failing.
The positive thing: This cost me sooo much money that I had to either sell an unfinished project or learn myself.
I choose the latter.
These are really bad experiences and we all learn from them.
My problem is finding an outlet for Swepco 202 in France! I just can not locate a seller. Chris B.
Indeed not easy to find in Europe. We ordered directly from Winchester Gears
@@offtrackfamily I finally found a company in Holland that will send me a gallon, but I have not yet got it! Chris B.
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Looking at your setup, I am wondering if you guys have issues with those wider tyres throwing mud all over the place, into the mirrors, roof top and even inside the cabin with open windows. As well, those wide tyres throw little stones chipping the paintwork.
I suffer all those problems using 285´s on ET=0 wheels. I guess one solution is to fit aftermarket wider arches but I am not really keen on such a solution. Perhaps 265´s tires do not protrude outside the std wheel arches. I am quite sure 255/85R16 do not protrude the wheel arches but on full compression they may rub against the rear "tube".
We do have mud & stones going all over with the mud tires, we honestly just close the windows and put aircon on ;) Paintwork isn't something we really care about as it's an offroader and it gets scratches all over when we drive through small forest tracks. We do have 285 K02 now on new alloy rims and they do stick out less, so we'll see if this makes a difference.
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In general I have had good experience with Ashcroft by getting spare parts. Very cooperative. I find rebuilding the LT230 is very simple. Dealing with a MT82 however, is a bit more complicated. During those hot summers you should use a thicker oil on the LT230, such as 75W-110 or so, even with the extra oil capacity sump you have installed. Are you planning to fit a rear locker? It is a peace of mind.
Ashcroft do have good parts and we might have been unlucky with their rebuild. Regarding oils for the moment we stick with Winchester Gears recommendations and for diff locker we might yes :)
Holy truth. Everything flows and completely unnecessary. I made everything on cnc and pressed it on carbide rings. I've had it for about 2 years and still not a drop. That aluminum cannot withstand the heat and pressure for a long time without CNC treatment. Made in Czech Republic.👌😊
Thanks for sharing! This goes with our way of thinking and trying to ditch all the old sayings... with good care and the right parts no oil drops out of a Defender 🙌💪
are subtitles available in Italian?
should be all good now
How much was the shipping from winchester gears?
Don't remember. The best is to contact them directly as shipping costs can vary.
Sadly the transmission is easily the worst bit of a Defender with the transfer case being the worst. Ashcroft seem to be getting a very mixed reputation where as Winchester seem to be very good.
Such a shame LR spent zero effort in improving this fundamental aspect of the Defender - its all just too weak for off roading without the constant fear some thing serious is going to break and leave you stranded.
I agree regarding Ashcroft and Winchester Gears. We upgraded parts according to our use of it and we were never left stranded on the side of the road. Almost happened many times but were always able to fix to continue. Sometimes with help, sometimes without. Taking good care of it with regular maintenance, understanding the mods we do & why we do them, and having a good knowledge of the car helps a lot on that side.
To bad your knowledge comes from hard knocks.
Happens sometimes and we had two similar situations at the same time with the same kind of craftsman for completely different parts for the car
Good info... but stop wasting your time and money. Do yourself a favour, buy a Landcruiser.
You don’t see snarky comments on Land Cruiser videos from Land Rover owners. Funny that
arretez d'aller voir des gens douteux.... avez vous deja essayer Newman4x4?
Nous avons entendu du bien sur Newman4x4. Pour l'instant nous avons un bon mécano aux Contamines en qui nous avons confiance. Mais il est clair que nous ne repasserons plus par des artisans français douteux, ça nous a vacciné! D'autant plus que c'était tout en même temps!