Was that at Blair Mountain? Also of note- Baldwin Felts Detective Agency - basically a private army to the Rockefellers - had machine guns that they used to end strikes before the US ever used them in combat.
The Tulsa race massacre happened a few months prior. I suspect that little bit of disinfo is an old Masonic or KKK yarn to get people to forget what happened in Tulsa.
I love how O’Brien is the closest to a blue collar character in Starfleet. He’s got his sleeves pushed up and he’s in the tight crawl spaces and gets shit done
I can understand the tight, confined maintenance corridors. They exist in ships and building in real life. I can't understand why they have to get on the floor and work uncomfortably upside down every time they need to service a console or panel. Maybe they don't pull open the easy-access hinged top because they're afraid of setting off the explodium?
@@AaronLitz That makes sense. I wonder if this is an intentional filming detail, trying to make the Cardassian-built equipment seem clunky compared to what Starfleet (and the audience) is used to.
And the show makes it quite clear in a few episodes than men like him are *the* reason Star Fleet is truly formidable. They can turns rocks into replicators, eh?
My dad is blue collar, worked in a factory for 40+ years and is with Teamsters. Because of the union, we grew up with excellent health care, dental and vision plans. Mom go sick with a lomg term illmess and her copay with the union funded HMO Was less than 20 bucks a visit/treatment, so they never had to worry about going broke. She survived and is 15 years cancer free. On top of that, all four of us kids attended excellent public colleges in a our world famous UC university system, so no crazy expensive student loans. We're all doing really well career wise because of the union and state funded schooling. Dad's about to retire with a full pension and he and mom's health care paid for until they pass. They also both have great life insurance policies too (though us kids don't need them now since we're grown, out of the house and employed). Dad couldn't go to college but his union protections and benefits allowed him to raise a middle class family on his high school education and allow us kids to move into the upper middle class. Unions save and protect lives. GOD BLESS UNIONS.
My Mom was in the civil service workers union n NY and worked in the state university system. The salary negotiated by the union, allowed her to raise two children after she was widowed, and she slowly made more money with job changes. After she retired, she got cancer and the supplemental insurance coverage her union negotiated picked up the part Medicare didn’t. She had cancer more than once; we couldn’t have paid for it all, and she gained extra years. I think she was the shop steward for awhile in the university library. Unions certainly made a big difference in my family’s life.
I am glad it worked out for your family. But Unions also raise the cost of goods and services and lead to reduced employment opportunities within said union companies. All of the benefits you just listed come from somewhere and that where is the pocketbook of every person buying a good which said company produces comes the money. I on the other hand have fled my union shops and in doing so have far outreached via income anything the union could have provided. So, the question in my mind is? Do you want the union to manage your career and retirement OR do you want to manage your own life and take the risk of failure. I think that is an individual choice.
@@grast5150depends. A good company doesnt need a union. A bad one will spend millions trying to actively stop unions because its cheaper than actually paying for what the employees should be getting.
oops! First do no harm (unless it is Quark?). I was thinking about the cultural contamination the Federation represents to the Ferengi. Unions, womens rights, and more altruism. The DS9 was a wacky place. The root beer speech Quark gives summarizes it to a tee.
Interestingly, Armin Shimmerman (the actor who plays Quark) was the co-chair of the Screen Actor's Guild. So he had a lot of experience with labor issues, but from the other end.
Giving Colm Meaney the chance to shine as a main cast in DS9 was one of the best decisions made in ST history. O'Brien was Based AF and one of the best characters on ST.
Indeed. It's a wonder that new Trek even Lower Decks doesn't give DS9 it's credit. They showed him as a Transporter operator instead of Chief of Operations.
Couldn't agree more. Isnt it amazing watching a fantastic actor get the material he truly deserves. Goddamit i can feel another ds9 binge coming! DAMN YOU !
He was also in Die Hard 2 as a BRITISH air pilot. When the Winsor Flight "lands", he is the captain, talking in the most fakest British accent you've ever heard.
This ancestor is fictitious, but the 1902 miner's strike was real, and there were indeed strikers who were killed, although mostly in battles with the police or strike breakers rather than outright assassinations, and their actual leader (John Mitchell) was not among the dead and instead just died of pneumonia many years later.
I'm in a union now and I love it. I struggled for years at random low-paying jobs with little or no benefits then I got a union job. I now get paid $13 more an hour than my last non-union job. I have great health insurance. I have rights in the workplace. Management is restricted in what they are allowed to do. It's changed my life. I would encourage anyone with the chance to unionize their workplace to do it.
Corporations be like "yeah, but you pay $25 per month in union dues, is that really worth it just to get health insurance, job security, protection from shitty management, and a massive pay increase???"
@@LaMarcheFutilé101 Reminds me of that ridiculous Delta Airlines anti-union push from a few years ago that went "Hey, etc amount of hundred $ a year for union dues, that's about the same as a brand new PS4, just sayin"
Similar story here, went from fighting for two years to get a one dollar raise from a company that literally kicked me on the ass as I left after nine and a half years to more than double the pay. Never looked back. ( They actually called me the next summer after I left as they didn't have anyone who knew how to do some of the niche stuff I did, I politely said no. )
Funny, I've always had the opposite experience. Unions more or less exist to line their own pockets, and don't protect the workers (either actively or proactively). All of the laziest bums I've ever worked with have been union lifers. They can't get fired for slacking off and stealing supplies and they know it. I'm working a non-union job in my field and I take home more pay, have better insurance, more flexibility at the workplace, better pension, and no union dues. I'm sure they're not all like that, but those are the ones I've dealt with around here.
I love it when those 'Alt-Right' muppets go on about how Star Trek has suddenly become 'woke'. It practically defined itself as such from day one. Nichelle Nichols and her experiences can attest to that.
@@brandywinebridget Counterpoint: anti-woke RATM fans You don't get much more oblique than RATM lyrics. They're just so cryptic, you have no idea what they're trying to say. It's like Proust
It's hilarious how people complain that new Star Trek and Star Wars is now woke and SJW. The Original Trilogy was a bunch of Antifa guerrilla fighters struggling against a fascist empire and were directly based on the Viet Cong. The Prequel Trilogy was based on the Weimar Republic and how nazism managed to take power during the first two films before becoming a critique of the Bush Administration in the last film, If anything. Both new Star Trek and Star Wars are less woke than their original series.
@@nachoolo The dark side of the Star Wars fan base back then was that a lot of pro-confederate Star Wars fans identified with the "Rebels". Talk about missing the point.
Its a shame that that strike is doomed to fail. The various studios would gladly let some of their most valuable IPs burn just to avoid giving writers what they deserve. We're seeing it now with Marvel, star wars, DC, and so on projects are getting delayed or scrapped constantly because of the strike and yet the studios pretend its nor happening
Had to come back to this scene after learning that Sean O'Brien is the current general president of the teamsters union in 2022. Surprised no one has mentioned this
My mom's family was from Pennsylvania, proud to be the sons and daughters of a union man, a steel-worker who helped forge the weapons that cut the Axis down. Introduced her recently to DS9 and she reminded me this scene existed lol
@@SlamHannigan I mean Ireland, dumbass and no, I'm not Allied for shit and Nazism was not Nordicist. Even if they were neutral they were not sympathetic to the Allies. Neither was Switzerland or Portugal. Only Allied-sympathetic neutral countries were Sweden and Spain.
O'Brien and Worf seriously benefited from leaving the Enterprise! They got some of DS9's best storylines and neither of them ever got boring, even after Worf's 500th mention of "honour".
Union History should be a mandatory class throughout school. People need and DESERVE to know that the rights they have now were fought for with blood and fury. Not simply arbitrarily handed over like is implied by the corporate world today.
@@newdawnsets7076 with all the anti-union talk in conservative circles these days they would have sided with Quark. Tucker Carlson would do 30 minutes on how the Dabo girls started wearing sensible work shoes instead of heels and how mad that makes him lol
I particularly like how Max Grodénchik makes Rom seem as if he's about to be punished for saying the dirtiest word possible the first time he says 'union'…because to a Ferengi, it is or close to.
I love the look on Rom's face when he realizes what he's gotten himself, and by extension those in his shop, into (1:25). Despite this, he is undeterred. THAT is Ferengi tenacity.
1:34 Chief Miles Edward O'Brien, who could strangle you with a cordless phone if he wanted to, is pictured. Chief O'Brien, who can kill 2 stones with one bird, is facing the camera and winking. O'Brien, who can dribble a bowling ball, is on DS9 station and wearing his classic gold uniform, and has the energy of a man who is walking away from an explosion without looking backwards at it. Closed caption reads, "He was more than a hero. He was a union man."
The president of the IBT union, and the guy negotiating the UPS strike this past week is named Sean O'Brien. Recognized the name instantly from hearing it so many times in this episode. lol
i like the iconografy of o'briens ancestor being a cole miner, as their strike in the 1984-85 against thatcherism was a pretty dystopic and bloody chapter of recent history and strikes, especially by coal miners, have their distinct vibe to them. a hero, indeed.
You know the saying, "Get woke, become the most popular and enduring example of a franchise with massive international appeal that shapes public thinking for generations." It doesn't rhyme, but it is true.
This episode really got me thinking about employee rights & the importance of trade unions, & inspired me to join a union myself. Miles O'Brien is one of my favourite Star Trek characters.
Sadly not surprising; 'capitalism flawed' or even 'capitalism bad' are acceptable on the farthest edges of our 'free society', but any hint of a replacement or support for those socialist nations across the world working to move past it, past or present, is not permitted. Even the "Western Left" is shot through with infantile anticommunist propaganda. We're only supposed to admire quickly-defeated dreamers like CHAZ or Occupy, any successful revolution is demonized. I wonder why we're only allowed to learn from losers...?
Because for some reason people pretend that unions have nothing to do with socialism and workers rights. Crapitalism "allows" you to work less than 6 days a week so you should be thankful 😂 workers unite indeed
One of those wonderful little moments that made DS9 so much more "relatable" than the cold technological of STNG. O'Brien was one of my favorites in all the ST canon.
I love how they totally could've used the fact that O'Brian's great grand whatever died as a joke, and they sorta start it out that way with Rom's reaction and O'Brien trying to remember how many bullets there were, but the pull it back.
A Sean O’Brien also led the Teamsters strike of 2023 that got us the largest pay increase in UPS history. We didn’t even need to stop working. Our practice pickets were enough to scare corporate.
I'm going with @Loy_turns explanation here. After the potato famine\genocide started moving those Irish from Ireland after '45 helped for a time for the US to have more Irish than the Island had. It took generations to build back up to older population numbers. So O'brien being able to track down US irish family history is would be common enough especially the further out you got timeline wise.
I love the line "And I put your theory into practice". It goes to show that while Rom may be socially challanged, he is quite astute. Most people would try to defend or make an excuse. Rom fully counters Bashir's comment.
coming back to this is as tomorrow i get my first paycheck with the wage increase and $400 bonus my union negotiated for in this year's contract. i'm also guaranteed a 3% wage increase in 2024 and 2025, among other numerous benefits. union strong.
Unions are great, and very useful when they do their job correctly... but I've seen far too many of them act the same way the corporations they're united against do. Had a co-worker who couldn't get more hours that she _desparately_ needed in order to pay bills, went to her boss, the boss gave her the hours... and the *_Union_* came down on her because she "didn't have enough seniority." As if you have to work somewhere for a certain amount of time before you're allowed to earn a damned living wage. "Take care when you stare into the abyss, for the abyss stares back." I know I'm paraphrasing, but it sounds like a good quote to drop here.
Sums it up. Stand up for your rights, end up dead, and your own country hates you for daring to want something better for yourself and your colleagues.
This scene establishes that by the 24th century, at least some of the Irish diaspora had ended up moving back to Ireland in the intervening centuries, as O'Brien's ancestor had lived in Western Pennsylvania, but it is established that O'Brien hinself grew up in Ireland.
O'Brien, I love you buddy, but when you're trying to convince a _Ferengi_ to do something, make sure to leave out any part about possibly getting killed.
I've always wondered if the writers intended O'Brien's story to be completely true (in-world), particularly the excessiveness of "32 bullets", or if O'Brien and Bashir were just messing with Rom :)
they still got everything that they wanted in the end. It's amazing how many times in history striking union members were openly killed by police or private strike breakers, but the strikers kept the strike going.
Star Trek says “the 8 hour day was earned with blood”
God love this show
SOLIDARITY FOREVER
Fuck the 8-hour workday. Give workers $8 an hour and put children back on the lines!
@@JcBravo8 Good one.
@@JcBravo8 Easy there, Quark.
@@JcBravo8 The children yearn for the mines
Never forget one of the first use of combat aircraft by the US was on striking coal miners in 1921.
Not to mention on the African American community of Tulsa, that same year in 1921.
Was that at Blair Mountain? Also of note- Baldwin Felts Detective Agency - basically a private army to the Rockefellers - had machine guns that they used to end strikes before the US ever used them in combat.
there were so many caches of weapons stowed and hidden away from that long standing conflict some are still being found today.[allegedly]
As when churchill sent the troops in in 26'
The Tulsa race massacre happened a few months prior. I suspect that little bit of disinfo is an old Masonic or KKK yarn to get people to forget what happened in Tulsa.
I love how O’Brien is the closest to a blue collar character in Starfleet. He’s got his sleeves pushed up and he’s in the tight crawl spaces and gets shit done
I can understand the tight, confined maintenance corridors. They exist in ships and building in real life.
I can't understand why they have to get on the floor and work uncomfortably upside down every time they need to service a console or panel. Maybe they don't pull open the easy-access hinged top because they're afraid of setting off the explodium?
He refused promotions too, always staying a petty officer
@@pwnmeisterage Cardassian engineering.
@@AaronLitz That makes sense.
I wonder if this is an intentional filming detail, trying to make the Cardassian-built equipment seem clunky compared to what Starfleet (and the audience) is used to.
And the show makes it quite clear in a few episodes than men like him are *the* reason Star Fleet is truly formidable. They can turns rocks into replicators, eh?
My dad is blue collar, worked in a factory for 40+ years and is with Teamsters. Because of the union, we grew up with excellent health care, dental and vision plans. Mom go sick with a lomg term illmess and her copay with the union funded HMO Was less than 20 bucks a visit/treatment, so they never had to worry about going broke. She survived and is 15 years cancer free.
On top of that, all four of us kids attended excellent public colleges in a our world famous UC university system, so no crazy expensive student loans. We're all doing really well career wise because of the union and state funded schooling.
Dad's about to retire with a full pension and he and mom's health care paid for until they pass. They also both have great life insurance policies too (though us kids don't need them now since we're grown, out of the house and employed). Dad couldn't go to college but his union protections and benefits allowed him to raise a middle class family on his high school education and allow us kids to move into the upper middle class.
Unions save and protect lives. GOD BLESS UNIONS.
My Mom was in the civil service workers union n NY and worked in the state university system. The salary negotiated by the union, allowed her to raise two children after she was widowed, and she slowly made more money with job changes. After she retired, she got cancer and the supplemental insurance coverage her union negotiated picked up the part Medicare didn’t. She had cancer more than once; we couldn’t have paid for it all, and she gained extra years. I think she was the shop steward for awhile in the university library.
Unions certainly made a big difference in my family’s life.
I am glad it worked out for your family. But Unions also raise the cost of goods and services and lead to reduced employment opportunities within said union companies. All of the benefits you just listed come from somewhere and that where is the pocketbook of every person buying a good which said company produces comes the money. I on the other hand have fled my union shops and in doing so have far outreached via income anything the union could have provided. So, the question in my mind is? Do you want the union to manage your career and retirement OR do you want to manage your own life and take the risk of failure. I think that is an individual choice.
✊🏻
O‘Brien, blue collar to the heart. 👍🏻
@@grast5150depends. A good company doesnt need a union. A bad one will spend millions trying to actively stop unions because its cheaper than actually paying for what the employees should be getting.
Dr. Bashir accidentally initiated major labor reforms within the Ferengi Alliance.
oops! First do no harm (unless it is Quark?). I was thinking about the cultural contamination the Federation represents to the Ferengi. Unions, womens rights, and more altruism. The DS9 was a wacky place. The root beer speech Quark gives summarizes it to a tee.
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Kinda weird that his comment about the O'Brien ancestor dying a hero sounded sarcastic
@@coolsenjoyer Naw. Our boy's autistic. It's also why he didn't think through the IMPLICATIONS of it.
@@chickadeestevenson5440 Ahh, so that's what the augments were a metaphor for
Interestingly, Armin Shimmerman (the actor who plays Quark) was the co-chair of the Screen Actor's Guild. So he had a lot of experience with labor issues, but from the other end.
That's so cool!
He could just parrot the b.s. anti union people would've told HIM, it's perfect
Both Armin & Wallace Shawn are big socialists
I love the irony that the right-wing, capitalist Ferengi are played by union lefties 😂
@@joelww2501 Satire is a powerful thing
@@joelww2501 They knew exactly what arguments to make in character because they’d heard them all their life
Giving Colm Meaney the chance to shine as a main cast in DS9 was one of the best decisions made in ST history.
O'Brien was Based AF and one of the best characters on ST.
Indeed. It's a wonder that new Trek even Lower Decks doesn't give DS9 it's credit. They showed him as a Transporter operator instead of Chief of Operations.
@@kamenwaticlients That's because nuTrek is made by people who detest everything Star Trek is supposed to be about.
Couldn't agree more. Isnt it amazing watching a fantastic actor get the material he truly deserves. Goddamit i can feel another ds9 binge coming! DAMN YOU !
@@kamenwaticlients Funny to read this after just watching the DS9 episode of Lower Decks
He was also in Die Hard 2 as a BRITISH air pilot. When the Winsor Flight "lands", he is the captain, talking in the most fakest British accent you've ever heard.
He was more than a hero!
He was a union man.
This ancestor is fictitious, but the 1902 miner's strike was real, and there were indeed strikers who were killed, although mostly in battles with the police or strike breakers rather than outright assassinations, and their actual leader (John Mitchell) was not among the dead and instead just died of pneumonia many years later.
Assassinations did still happen. In the US, as elsewhere.
that strike was literally a second civil war
@@Feasco The Second Temporal* Civil War actually
The look of visible terror transitioning to understanding is awesome
Especially considering how hard it must be to act expressively under all that insane amount of prosthetics
Max G is such a wonderfully underrate actor and human being, glad he got to shine again recently in Lower Decks
Canonically the greatest star fleet officer in history at it again
Don't call him an officer: he works for a living.
@@theevilascotcompany9255 where is your uniform private
WORKERS OF THE GALAXY, UNITE!!!!
YOU HAVE NOTHING TO LOSE BUT YOUR CHAINS!!!!
Solidarity Forever! For the Union Makes Us Strong!
Which side are you one boys, which side are you on!
@@spdracr because you're clearly based
@@spdracr that was a compliment
@@spdracr why not? Being based is a good thing
@@spdracr it broadly means the opposite of cringe.
You should check what words mean rather than assuming they're insults.
I'm in a union now and I love it. I struggled for years at random low-paying jobs with little or no benefits then I got a union job. I now get paid $13 more an hour than my last non-union job. I have great health insurance. I have rights in the workplace. Management is restricted in what they are allowed to do. It's changed my life. I would encourage anyone with the chance to unionize their workplace to do it.
Corporations be like "yeah, but you pay $25 per month in union dues, is that really worth it just to get health insurance, job security, protection from shitty management, and a massive pay increase???"
@@LaMarcheFutilé101 Reminds me of that ridiculous Delta Airlines anti-union push from a few years ago that went "Hey, etc amount of hundred $ a year for union dues, that's about the same as a brand new PS4, just sayin"
Similar story here, went from fighting for two years to get a one dollar raise from a company that literally kicked me on the ass as I left after nine and a half years to more than double the pay. Never looked back. ( They actually called me the next summer after I left as they didn't have anyone who knew how to do some of the niche stuff I did, I politely said no. )
God Bless Unions
Funny, I've always had the opposite experience. Unions more or less exist to line their own pockets, and don't protect the workers (either actively or proactively). All of the laziest bums I've ever worked with have been union lifers. They can't get fired for slacking off and stealing supplies and they know it. I'm working a non-union job in my field and I take home more pay, have better insurance, more flexibility at the workplace, better pension, and no union dues.
I'm sure they're not all like that, but those are the ones I've dealt with around here.
Every now and then I forget how based Star Trek could get
I love it when those 'Alt-Right' muppets go on about how Star Trek has suddenly become 'woke'. It practically defined itself as such from day one. Nichelle Nichols and her experiences can attest to that.
@@marktaylor6491 “anti woke” ST fans may be the world champions for worst critical thinking skills
@@brandywinebridget Counterpoint: anti-woke RATM fans
You don't get much more oblique than RATM lyrics. They're just so cryptic, you have no idea what they're trying to say. It's like Proust
It's hilarious how people complain that new Star Trek and Star Wars is now woke and SJW.
The Original Trilogy was a bunch of Antifa guerrilla fighters struggling against a fascist empire and were directly based on the Viet Cong. The Prequel Trilogy was based on the Weimar Republic and how nazism managed to take power during the first two films before becoming a critique of the Bush Administration in the last film,
If anything. Both new Star Trek and Star Wars are less woke than their original series.
@@nachoolo The dark side of the Star Wars fan base back then was that a lot of pro-confederate Star Wars fans identified with the "Rebels". Talk about missing the point.
The Star Trek writers have this written on all of their signs as they walk the picket line outside of Paramount Studios.
Its a shame that that strike is doomed to fail. The various studios would gladly let some of their most valuable IPs burn just to avoid giving writers what they deserve. We're seeing it now with Marvel, star wars, DC, and so on projects are getting delayed or scrapped constantly because of the strike and yet the studios pretend its nor happening
@@exilestudios9546 Given what "modern writers" are doing to Disney's stock price, The Mouse probably sees it as a win-win.
"The Strike was not, in fact, doomed to fail"
I would give anything in the world to receive a conspiratorial wink from Colm Meaney
When O'Brien mentions his ancestor died before the strike ended, the look on Rom's face is telling. "Oh crap"
Had to come back to this scene after learning that Sean O'Brien is the current general president of the teamsters union in 2022. Surprised no one has mentioned this
I voted for the guy. Get to meet him next week at the union meeting!
@@Snesboy09 hope you had a nice time :)
Temporal warfare messed up his timeframe a bit, but he's still there!
Hah! That's awesome. I guess it's a common enough name. Just hope he doesn't have to be as "heroic" as the 1902 version...
He's been in the news again recently, after the senator from Oklahoma offered to fight him, right there on the Senate floor.
watching on labor day
My mom's family was from Pennsylvania, proud to be the sons and daughters of a union man, a steel-worker who helped forge the weapons that cut the Axis down. Introduced her recently to DS9 and she reminded me this scene existed lol
And yet your country supported the Axis
@@robjackson5245 The United States supported the Axis? You probably shouldn't have fallen asleep in history class.
@@SlamHannigan I mean Ireland, dumbass and no, I'm not Allied for shit and Nazism was not Nordicist. Even if they were neutral they were not sympathetic to the Allies. Neither was Switzerland or Portugal. Only Allied-sympathetic neutral countries were Sweden and Spain.
A Hero stands alone. A union man stands with his family
O'Brien and Worf seriously benefited from leaving the Enterprise! They got some of DS9's best storylines and neither of them ever got boring, even after Worf's 500th mention of "honour".
"Now I'm a Union Man, amazed at what I am. I say what I think, that the company stinks, yes I'm a Union Man!"
This episode made me a huge labor rights advocate
Odd way to get there but as long as you arrived...
@@jamesf456 Odds are OP saw this episode when they were young and it shaped their views on labor rights
@@exilestudios9546 good!
That O'Brien lineage certainly rubbed off on Rom and Nog splendidly.
Union History should be a mandatory class throughout school. People need and DESERVE to know that the rights they have now were fought for with blood and fury. Not simply arbitrarily handed over like is implied by the corporate world today.
Problem is that the books are made in Texas...
Being from a Union family and currently living in the Deep South is a special type of hell
Blows my mind that there are conservative Trek fans with scenes like this
Maybe they liked Quark
You don't need to be a kommunist to want rights
@@newdawnsets7076 how is saying your not a conservative instantly mean you’re a communist?
@@newdawnsets7076 with all the anti-union talk in conservative circles these days they would have sided with Quark. Tucker Carlson would do 30 minutes on how the Dabo girls started wearing sensible work shoes instead of heels and how mad that makes him lol
@@tompadfoot3065 If your only grasp on politics is what you see on the news then no wonder the US is slowly killing itself.
I particularly like how Max Grodénchik makes Rom seem as if he's about to be punished for saying the dirtiest word possible the first time he says 'union'…because to a Ferengi, it is or close to.
Anybody else here because a union teamster literally named Sean O'Brien almost got into a fight with a US senator yesterday? No? Just me?
This scene seems especially pertinent today.
I love the look on Rom's face when he realizes what he's gotten himself, and by extension those in his shop, into (1:25). Despite this, he is undeterred. THAT is Ferengi tenacity.
1:34 Chief Miles Edward O'Brien, who could strangle you with a cordless phone if he wanted to, is pictured. Chief O'Brien, who can kill 2 stones with one bird, is facing the camera and winking. O'Brien, who can dribble a bowling ball, is on DS9 station and wearing his classic gold uniform, and has the energy of a man who is walking away from an explosion without looking backwards at it. Closed caption reads, "He was more than a hero. He was a union man."
And this is why he's remembered as one of the most important members of Star Fleet in the future.
Lower Decks said so, and it's canon.
I saw this quote appear in the early days of the 2023 Writers Strike, and now I've found the source. Thank you.
The president of the IBT union, and the guy negotiating the UPS strike this past week is named Sean O'Brien. Recognized the name instantly from hearing it so many times in this episode. lol
Bashir: I was speaking theoretically
Rom: And I put your theory into practice!
Internal Rom dialog: Thought you were smart, keep up here, doc!
Even for a genius like Rom: that is still an especially engineer-y line.
i like the iconografy of o'briens ancestor being a cole miner, as their strike in the 1984-85 against thatcherism was a pretty dystopic and bloody chapter of recent history and strikes, especially by coal miners, have their distinct vibe to them.
a hero, indeed.
Irish, western PA, and once a union man, all of this is pure gold. Cheers
Imagine if this was made today. I know of a few chanells that wouldn't shut up about "cultural post modern neo marxism" for at least 5 years
Meanwhile liberals (not leftists) celebrate Star Trek Discovery and other NuTrek where billionaires like Elon Musk are being worshipped as heroes.
"Star Trek was better before it went woke!"
Or some other drivel like that...
You know the saying, "Get woke, become the most popular and enduring example of a franchise with massive international appeal that shapes public thinking for generations."
It doesn't rhyme, but it is true.
"But did you know that the vague notion of socialism killed 5637 quadrillion people just last year?"
Unionization isn't Cultural Marxism.
It's, y'know, regular Marxism.
This episode really got me thinking about employee rights & the importance of trade unions, & inspired me to join a union myself. Miles O'Brien is one of my favourite Star Trek characters.
Oh my god, the comments here are so much better than the capitalists on the Rom "workers of the world unite" clip.
Sadly not surprising; 'capitalism flawed' or even 'capitalism bad' are acceptable on the farthest edges of our 'free society', but any hint of a replacement or support for those socialist nations across the world working to move past it, past or present, is not permitted. Even the "Western Left" is shot through with infantile anticommunist propaganda. We're only supposed to admire quickly-defeated dreamers like CHAZ or Occupy, any successful revolution is demonized. I wonder why we're only allowed to learn from losers...?
Because for some reason people pretend that unions have nothing to do with socialism and workers rights. Crapitalism "allows" you to work less than 6 days a week so you should be thankful 😂 workers unite indeed
One of those wonderful little moments that made DS9 so much more "relatable" than the cold technological of STNG. O'Brien was one of my favorites in all the ST canon.
Every time someone says modern Trek is going woke, show them this clip
No, show them the Marxist clip instead
@@Alexthemeh4214workers of the world *UNITE*
you have nothing to lose but your chains
I love how they totally could've used the fact that O'Brian's great grand whatever died as a joke, and they sorta start it out that way with Rom's reaction and O'Brien trying to remember how many bullets there were, but the pull it back.
this scene makes me tear up
A Sean O’Brien also led the Teamsters strike of 2023 that got us the largest pay increase in UPS history. We didn’t even need to stop working. Our practice pickets were enough to scare corporate.
"face injustice and unfairness with your head held high, even if it means facing death itself"
*Which Side Are You On plays louder*
I'm living for all the recent comments demonstrating a clear interest in these scenes recently 😭😍
United we stand divided we fall
i like how o'briens ancestors moved back to ireland at some point. maybe there's more alternate history there.
Maybe he just does the accent to get chicks
After it reunited in 2024, perhaps.
Maybe one his other ancestors was an IRA man.
He could have had a branch of the family living in America.
@@DoinItforNewCommTech nope, his birthplace is clearly stated as Ireland.
I'm going with @Loy_turns explanation here. After the potato famine\genocide started moving those Irish from Ireland after '45 helped for a time for the US to have more Irish than the Island had. It took generations to build back up to older population numbers. So O'brien being able to track down US irish family history is would be common enough especially the further out you got timeline wise.
Based and O'Brien pilled
One of the DS9 Writers is with the WGA on Strike with this as what's written on his sign lol
I love the line "And I put your theory into practice". It goes to show that while Rom may be socially challanged, he is quite astute. Most people would try to defend or make an excuse. Rom fully counters Bashir's comment.
Little moments like this with Miles makes him my favorite character
Y'know I knew Star Trek was based but I didn't know it was this based. Gonna have to watch it
"one of us! One of us"
Solidarity forever
coming back to this is as tomorrow i get my first paycheck with the wage increase and $400 bonus my union negotiated for in this year's contract. i'm also guaranteed a 3% wage increase in 2024 and 2025, among other numerous benefits. union strong.
I fucking popped off when I watched this the first time, I was coming off a big political awakening and it was just peak
O'Brien, the greatest member of starfleet ever. Fact, it's cannon.
I saw a Sean O’Brien involved with the actors and writers strike!
Thought of this scene when I joined a union
With a wink and a nod,Cheif O'Brian changed the coarse of Roms life.
WGA JUST WON!!!
and so the gods have blessed me this day with the legendary star trek clip
Unions are great, and very useful when they do their job correctly... but I've seen far too many of them act the same way the corporations they're united against do. Had a co-worker who couldn't get more hours that she _desparately_ needed in order to pay bills, went to her boss, the boss gave her the hours... and the *_Union_* came down on her because she "didn't have enough seniority." As if you have to work somewhere for a certain amount of time before you're allowed to earn a damned living wage.
"Take care when you stare into the abyss, for the abyss stares back." I know I'm paraphrasing, but it sounds like a good quote to drop here.
The writers strike of 2023
Incredibly prescient that the algorithm is recommending this to me during the WGA strike.
Happy labour day weekend
My favorite episode with Rom.
More like putting theory into praxis
Love DS9
Chief O'Brien would be striking with SAG-AFTRA! ... And Chief Tyrol, too! So say we all!
"Part of the Union" *INTENSIFIES*
An injury to one is an injury to all!
This episode definitely played a part in convincing me to join the Industrial Workers of the World. I think Rom woule be proud of me.
I didn't want this video to have more than 69 likes. Blame me.
Heroes don't do that. Union men however...
Right thar, theory and practice.
Star trek based as always
Based? Based on what? 🤨
StAr TrEk Is WoKe NoW
Oh F off .. Star trek has always been woke even going back to the original s .. Grow up mate!
@@christianmccann9400 I think he was making fun of the pople who say that, dude :o
Sums it up. Stand up for your rights, end up dead, and your own country hates you for daring to want something better for yourself and your colleagues.
But your comrades keep fighting, and eventually they win.
@@justicetrooperwhat if that's your kink?
Did the o'briens move back to ireland at some point?
Which side are you on boy, which side are you on?
It's rare that I come across a Botchamania clip/
He was a union man!
This scene establishes that by the 24th century, at least some of the Irish diaspora had ended up moving back to Ireland in the intervening centuries, as O'Brien's ancestor had lived in Western Pennsylvania, but it is established that O'Brien hinself grew up in Ireland.
Ulster was returned to the Republic in the early 21st Century in the Trek universe.
I wonder if the 4-day work week will be easier to earn...
Rom: "I have neither ever met any Pennsylvanians, nor do I know what this 19-O-2 event was."
I imagine the reverse.
Rom: Who did you think led the Shartian Enterprise of the sixth sundrop in O-O-97
O'Brian: ...
O'Brien, I love you buddy, but when you're trying to convince a _Ferengi_ to do something, make sure to leave out any part about possibly getting killed.
I fear that this will not end well...
It doesn't, for Quark.
In the end, he became holey union man.
I've always wondered if the writers intended O'Brien's story to be completely true (in-world), particularly the excessiveness of "32 bullets", or if O'Brien and Bashir were just messing with Rom :)
I am Chief Miles Edward O'Bryan. I am very much alive, and I intend to stay that way.
AND - - a direct lineal descendant of Brian Boru!
I think, maybe, the strike ending was not a coincidence.... 🤔
they still got everything that they wanted in the end. It's amazing how many times in history striking union members were openly killed by police or private strike breakers, but the strikers kept the strike going.
@@Wuginess they think they can beat us into submission, but we will keep fighting 🎶FOR THE UNION MAKES US STRONG🎶
LOL!
based
stbr seething
Onrain change thecwhole culture of a plan with one conversation 😊
Unionize y'all