RAID: Shadow Legends | Frozen Banshee rework | Rare Clan Boss champion | Best poisoner in the game?!
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- New Rare Poisoner reworked to be INSANE!
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Here is a UNM run today without a debuff extender against spirit czcams.com/users/postUgxK8txomTVNGZ91vch4AaABCQ
Hell Hades unfortunately I can‘t open the link. But thanks for the effort. Keep up the great work you are doing for the community!
@@Buzzi0912 weird its also shown in my General tab in discord along with her masteries
Yeah link doesn’t work
@@HellHades shes terrible without an extender against force cb.. found this out the hard way
@@alphaqgentley897 well yeah weak hits are always bad
Masteries!!!!!! Every time please.
Would love to see the dream speed team one day: Krisk, siphi, Lanakis, turvold and Rotos duke it out. Ally protect 24/7 and fully maxed out with +15% heals on turtle, trickle heals on the rest of the team, perma block debuffs so no stuns to worry about, 2x turn meter increase and tons of buffs for turvold to chew on ❤️
Is there a whale out there who can make this happen please? 😄
Would have loved to see a direct compare with OB, and I suspect she'll not do nearly as well w/o a rebuff extender as her poison sensitivity will die causing her to not always proc the poison. Quite a kit for a rare!
I also don't have a 6-star, level 16 accuracy banner which meant she isn't always landing her Poison Sensitivity debuff as well. Once I can get some amaze-balls gear, she'll probaby be top-tier for me as well...
What masteries you have on her @hellhades
@@iFacePalm yeah wtf man @hell hades
@@blitzballerjg Here for the masteries too
I too am interested in the mastery route you went.
Masteries for a CA team please.
Masteries please
Nice, already running mino for her, to finally replace my Kael. Keep up the great work!
you wont regret it, shes MENTAL now
Doing the same, I can't wait to have a poisoner that hits its poison consistently.
Thanks for highlighting Banshee, she is a great F2P option for alot of ppl out there. Would be nice, to see her next to Kael, who a majority of ppl are probably still using on their CB teams. Another great vid, keep up the amazing work!
Would also be nice to know what you would rate her damage potential, like you gave in your CB series for poisoners. Thanks!
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Sweet I'm in your video at 8 minutes! That is my second Coldheart I just maxed out, I'm getting ready to crush spider 20 and get my arbiter!
Thanks too you my lightsworn I had built for my cb team fit right in and helped me progress through spider, I never realized how great he is in that dungeon. Neither does anyone else according to his rating.
4:56 Great pointer where ya remember about the 10 total debuffs against CB. Doesn't do to overshadow the other debuffs, lol.
She’s better than marksman...and better stats too! Gonna strip his gear and build her up. Love this!
I had my Kael first, then one of my first 3 shard epics was Marksman, then in the recent 2x event I pullen Frozen Banshee.
And I just got both OB booked and Nethril needs 1 more if it goes in the right place and now a rare I have multiple of comes along!
Hey, man. I think Cillian could be a fun Nuker to the Arena, but need too many books. And also I’m feeling lucky to get your takeover! Let’s go!
I think draco is better still for poison because he also brings weaken and def dwn
I actually agree and I've seen proof of him doing more damage in CB. 20m or higher actually
Cool! Thx for that! Would have been nice though to show her without a Vizier in order to see what the output is if one does not have an debuff extender. I am working on a CA team with Skullcrusher but lacking an extender. Maybe next time. Cheers
He did at the end of the video
Andrew Campbell No, he was using a speed team. I asked for a counter attack team without a debuff extender. Cheers
@@Buzzi0912 Ah, I see. I misunderstood what you were asking.
Would have been nice to see what masteries you're using on her
Sweet :D It's the next one I'm working up to 60 - Got her and Gravechill dropping from the same 10x Mystery. Considering trying her in mid game with Fahrakin, Ursala, Serris and either Brago or Apotechary depending on her build adaption, this one is great though. Nice work! :)
Nice work! She won't use the speed buff on auto, which means you can actually use her in a speed tuned team. A clan mate of mine two keys UNM and has just replaced Zavia with her. He's delighted as he can finally auto his runs and is getting 40mil+!
I just started 2 weeks ago and pulled her. Used her as food like a dumbass... This makes me so pissed damnit. I didn't know what I was doing
Skilling booking ascending leveling gearing her now hope she don’t get nerfed! I’ve got food for 2 six stars now debating among: jareg Lanakis frostking and her.
I'm in the same boat about Frostking and her. What did you do? I'm not sold at all about Frostking and I suppose that the 6th star on Banshee plus Warmaster will be a great addition with Lifesteal gear.
She doesn't use her a2 on auto . At least mine😅 She is perfect for speed tune.
Check her again.
I started running duel Frozen Banshees with a High Khatun lead. I’m loving it
I use her on my ultra team with septimus, martyr, skullcrusher and warlord; been doing around 30 mil a key and 18.5 mil damage from frozen banshee. And stew's video on his all rare clan boss team was dope. Maybe they weren't lying when they said they were finally going to release rare champions worth a damn
I don’t think she uses her a2 in CB fights on auto.
I noticed this also - makes it a bit worse for Auto Speed comps. Was hoping to rely on her additional speed boost but I guess we are living without. Makes her more viable for CA teams though.... yay for not having a CA....
Can confirm she never uses her A2 on auto.
Love the video Hades, so harpy I pushed her into my team but I can also confirm her a2 is Never used
Leviticus Lacey Oof.. FeelsBadMan. I just pulled skull crusher a week ago. So relieved to finally have a ca. Makes a lot of things much easier
@@levilacey2185 F2P 1 month in 1 lego, Valk, 9 shard epics, skullcrusher.
I always enjoy your content! very valuable.
Your test for the debuffs I do need to bring up. What you ended up doing was testing the dmg difference between the Weaken and a single Poison debuff, not the Poison Sensitivity...... Maybe if you can replace Banshee with another posioner all together may result in a more effective test.
Loving her now, I'm working on a build as we speak, hopefully it works cos I've pumped soooooo many resources into it 😂, hitting huge in NM though
20 mil on UN :), bad gear as well
I just finished booking my Occult Brawler yesterday! Feels bad man.
ha ha exactly what i just thought
15:00 it's definitely a great score, but I am pushing close to 40m on Brutal with some good luck w/ my speed comp (Duchess, Rhazin, Brawler, Apoth, Jareg), I'm sure some others post similar numbers. For me, since the masteries cause so much variance, it comes down mostly to whether or not Jareg's defensive cooldown lines up with the CB attacks properly. Also whether Duchess gets one shot early by the single target punch.
With these changes you can actually make a decent full rare CB team. That's awesome.
I pulled both of them in the 2x April event. Alongside a Valk. Coffin was my first atk down champ.
It'd be cool to see her, along with High Khatun (high base DEF) in a counter-attack low-speed-tuned max-damage team. Drop everyone's speed way down, and max out crit rate and crit damage (100/200), use the speed buff and turn meter boosts to bring your speed back up to stay in sync. If you play around and experiment with the speeds, you should be able to lap him after his 3rd turn if you don't book your cooldowns and leave them at 4 to keep your counter-attack and other buffs and debuffs in-sync. Since you lap him after the stun round, you could drop your cleanser for High Khatun. I'm about 3 months in and my Clan Boss team is still unbooked (Rhazin, Altan and Valkyrie) and can't wait to build up the gear and experiment with the right speed for each champion to make this work. I think it has great potential with low gear and book requirements. It can probably even do more damage than the other speed-tuned teams because of the lap and higher crit potential (since you don't need high speed). Frozen Banshee's turn meter boost just makes the necessary speed even a lower bar to reach - you might just need 1 or 2 speed substats and can go DEF chest, DEF boots and crit damage gloves.
Not sure, but u may run into a problem with trying to lap the boss on the third turn. Please correct me if I'm not following ur logic correctly, but on the third turn just before the cb stun, each member of your team will have gone 3 times, correct? Valkyie's shield is for 3 turns.
@@michaelhagen2712 order of events... Clan Boss turn 1: small slam, Team turn 1: 2 turn meter boosts and speed buff (HK goes last before counterattack champ), Clan Boss turn 2: big slam, Team turn 2: normal attacks, Clan Boss turn 3: stun Team turn 3: stun and speed buff wears off, Team turn 4: DEF up, DEF down, counter-attack + shield up... repeat sequence... note that this isn't a double-counter setup with Valk's shield going up for the big slam
You made me happy) Was long waiting to 6* kale, and now i dont have to. Have no other good poisoners, but have her. Yay)
Btw, videos with your face are much better.
She's about to get that Steel Bowyer treatment.
Instantly jumped on this hype train the other 2 famous poison Champs are both green (ob and SS) needed a good vs blue choice, and I guess I can spare the rare books from the 140 something I've got ;)
They pile up end game folks trust me.
Thanks HH!
Funny enough I'd just started levelling her again after I saw your video about the patch notes and thought hmm thats a big buff to her kit - gone from a sub par to amazing with that small change! Definitely should've been released as she is now.
Cmon there is no point in showing off the capability of a poisoner by using Visier. You should have showcased her in a skullcrusher comb with like rhazin, jareg and grizzled or so. And shes got her poison on A1 so she's better for a counter team then for a speed team. Does she use her A2 on auto?
She doesn't use her a2 on auto.
I just pulled her. She will be the next I carry to 60 for sure. I'm a little bit afraid they will nerf her....
I actually sharded two of each, Banshee and coffin smasher.
damn :(
Nice to see. Going to have to test her a a partner w steelskull and see how it works. Hopefully she doesnt use speed boost like people are saying
She doesn't use it
luckily for you golden reaper has atk down a2
edit: and 30 mil against 33mil. speed and ally attack vs. counter attack and the best debuff extender!
good vid nonetheless!
good to see a rare champ get buffed.
now we need to see "steel bowyer" get back to her former glory!
don't forget that the speed run was only brutal, not nightmare anymore
Well, this 17m cannot be compared with her in the previous run, coz you have Vizier. Before SteelSkull and her shared the poison damage, but now both shares came to Frozen Banshi.
And, as you might know by now, Banshi doesn't do her A2 on Auto.
Great video. One thing is missing. The masteries. Can you please do a quick video for masteries? TIA.
Could've shown a run without a debuff extender.... this video did not affected my view on her at all, nor did it for the majority of us.
I did if you watch
What if you extended all the poisons with vazier to the most you could and used zavias a3 to deal all the posions damage instantly?
I thought about this as well, the dmg you can get is close to 12 mio if you could stack them to 20
Put her together with Erinyes and you have something that everyone can get. Skullcrusher is nice and Vizier aswell, but who has them. Erinyes can be fused and she is a good poisoner on her own together with her debuf extender skill. These 2 with the right buffs to support them are more then insane...
with Anax added it;s an upgrade to gravechill with weaken? otherwise they both do the same thing. and adding bad el would be too much having 3 poisoners next to ghrush? for my account i'm lacking bad el and a buff extender/ counter att/ ally att. and need to leave room for leach and decrease att from ghrush
Hey Hell Hades, thanks for all the great videos and help. I was wondering your thoughts on running 2 frozen banshees on a CB team. I dont have great gear yet but I have been running 20m keys with my team. Tayrel in lead, banshee, banshee, Minaya, skullcrusher . My problem is I am finding it impossible to speed tune a team with 2 banshees thanks to her A2 turn meter booster. I put my skullcrusher in relentless armor to try to overcome the badly timed counter attack buffs by just having it up more. Any thoughts?
Do one without vizier .... not everyone has debuff extender since they are so rare!
Wilfred Heerspink yeah I want to know how much Frozen Banshee can actually do without a debuff extender. Only those real lucky ones have vizier which is like a small majority
She is good right now in CA teams because she doesn't use the speed buff... debating whether I should invest in her for my CA team or plarium will fix her.
Hey, HH, I've been watching tour videos - awesome content, helps a lot. Can you make a champion guide on Gravechill Killer
great vid...i havent pulled her yet but just wondering do i still need a poisoner with her so the poison lands cos of poison sensitivity..or is sensitivity a poison in its own right cheers j
hhhmmmm OldDirtyMan...3 to 6 asap, masteries, and book asap, ty you again, dude
Can you also share a screenshot of the masteries please?
Im currently running a team of BEK, Septimus (fixed AI now), steelskull, tayrel, apothecary. I was considering jareg to replace tayrel and using banshee instead of steelskull though. Not sure if it would do more damage. I could also replace the septimus for her
@hellhades what masteries did you go for?
She looks good in the vid probably just on par with Draco. I wouldn't say she is better than him thou. One thing she does do that draco is a jerk about is she doesnt over poison and allows time for other debuffs.
Used my Frozen Banshee as food for a 60. I didn't think Plarium fixed bugs in a timely fashion.
I wish i had 5% of the tactic knowlegde that you have in this game..
Do you ever do guides for new players that have these characters I don't have a full deck of legendaries to team up with frozen banshee and I'm just starting out in the game
As a ftp, I made the huge mistake of using her as food in my first 2 weeks 🤬 I didn’t realise how good she would become. Luckily I’ve got occult brawler drop but I’m still kicking myself lol 😂
dude when i started i did that to a seer
Got her some time ago, was suprised when read shes way better than Kael till I've tested both. Used all my books on her, have max A1, A2 and lvl4 A3...freaking luck :/
Masteries?
With F2P mentality, i would've to conform with having bulwark instead of the godlike vizir, but at least it could apply a weaken to boost the damages in exchange of a poison, which raises the question: would that 15% of weaken be worth a 6,25% poison?
of course i see this a few hours after i used her to rank up my kael to rank 5
I love what she is right now, I'm just unsure about investing in her, since Plarium might nerf her once again, since they don't like the rares to perform well....
I doubt it, she is only really useful for cb
What about that dwarf that does weaken and has debuff extend?
Well lucky me I just got her up today before I saw your vid on her. Any chance you could do a guide on Cruetraxa would greatly appreciate it.
Building mine up to replace U. Galek.
If I don't have Visir, who else has the Extend Debuff ability? Can't seem to find that at Ayumilove.
Well Juliana is about to retire. Thanks mate. 🍻
she is well and truly in the bin
So comments below are reporting that she doesnt use her A2/Speedboost skill on auto, so if that is the case, then it seems she indeed IS ideal for CA teams as well......I am currently running Aothar, and it would seem she will EASILY out poison Aothar....
Yep its confirmed
How much better would you say that she is thank Kael, as far as poison is concerned? Specifically on teams without counter attack or debuff extension. I'm trying to figure out if I should make her a priority at the moment.
So would she be a good combo with occult brawler? I was going to pair him with Julianna, but this one might be better?
she does really well I replaced zavia with her and now I can auto my unm. and she doesn't use her turn meter boost on cb
ah even better!
Well, no turn meter increase sucks for a speed team. :-(
Lol, guess I should have read the comments first, just mentioned her not using speed up
Yes finally! Couldn't get a poisoner to replace Zavia to save my life - i need her built differently to lower my dungeon times! Great idea ill get to work on this right away.
Damn used as food before buff came out :(
@Hellhades, I am running a Black Knight, Tayrel, Rhazin, Frozen Banshee, Skullcrusher and I don't understand why but many times I hit double into the CB with no sensitivity up. Can you help me speed tune the team exactly to hit right?
Just 6 starred and full mastery my OB, spend millions silver to gear him and now Plarium rework a rare champion bitch who can over take most of the epic and lego poisoners? Great job Plarium!!!
I run a double man eater unkillable comp forunm c b. draco and frozen together with skull rusher for counter. Draco easily does 20-25% more damage than frozen. She’s a great champ for a rare but I wouldn’t call her the best poisoner in the game. She is a rare and you only have a 45% to land sensitivity. Her kit does not allow her to lay poison if she misses that skill. She is very inconsistent for this reason. I have 289 acc on my frozen and I run her in the lead to give me around 320 acc. She still misses poisons and sensitivity often. If your lucky enough to have a vizier to get the scores your putting up sure she’s a great poisoner. But he is the key to this comp, not her. Without him to extend her debuffs she will miss at some point and drastically effect your score in the end. She’s the best rare poisoner in the game but you have way overrated her overall. Please think about your comps before you assign “best” to anything. Take an extender out and show what she does for you. You’ll see a drastic fall in her numbers.
Any point in bringing her if I have a Draco?
Is valerie worth lvling up in such a team as a buff increaser? I don't have any and I keep getting problems when running a speed team that they go too fast to keep the buffs and usually the clan boss hits when no buffs are active.
Yo Hades!! thx for this vid! could u maybe when uve got time level up Gravechill killer and run them together?? they're supposed to synergize I believe..
i think Stew gaming has done this today
@@HellHades oohh ok nice!! I'll go check it out..seeing as how I don't have champs that extends debuffs it might work better for me if I've got 2 champs applying poisons and just build the rest of my team around dec attk/def which I've got Stag Knight, and some support and healing and allow poison to be my focus for dmg..and thx so much for taking the time to always respond to us and help us out..I'm sure ur busy yet u always seem to find the time..
My Banshee doesn't use her speed boost on the clan boost. But then...my steelskull doesn't use his cleanse on the stun either.
Hey could you test if Zavias ability to trigger all poison stacks does more damage if poison sensitivity is on the clanboss?
i don't have an vyzier but have warlord but his a1 is not that reliable cuz it's just 1 hit with low chance, and his a3 that does nothing on boss, so it's kinda impossible tohave all that debuff up 100% of the time, maybe if i just have an counter attack to help with :D
Hell hades I am considering putting her on my unm team with jareg, razhin, vezir and skullcrusher, right now I use steelskull as poisoner and I was wondering about your opinion, if it's better to replace steelskull, I am not so sure tho, she put really fast the poisons as I see but then I will luck healing, I will let you know if it's better with her
Relatively new to the game here but why wouldn’t you run a secondary poisoner with FB if her a2 and a3 both suggest more poisoners? Are the comps just too tight?
I was just wondering if my account could be looked at and improved as I am doing ok but seem to be stuck at the minute and it needs re-worked as dont think I have some champions set up right
That chesplate must have hurt... A lot
"this is the best combo, ohh shit, she's not in.. that's why it's soo good"
Frozen Banshee or Occult Brawler for CB? I have both and in the process of levelling up both.
If you used karam at 9:55 if you used his attack that inflict all poison damage at once would that one shot him??
Is she better than Juliana for my second poisoner? I currently use Juliana, Occult Brawler, Whisper, Apothecary and Bogwalker.
How do you think Chani compares to Frozen Banshee?
I just pulled a 2nd Frozen Banshee.. should i turn her into book or should i run a 2x banshee CB team ?
HH, what are her masteries you have her in?
They will nerf her cause rares arent suppose to be better than any actually leg in the game... lol. Also Draco has done more damage than her so I'm not sure shes better than him in the poison department but great video none the less!
What about with BeK where they do more damage with poison debuffs?
Great. Now they'll nerf her. XD
Shhhh!!!!
Hey HellHades, she doesn't do her speed up move on auto, so she works for counter attack, pass the info along!!
Awsome! thanks
Imagine uploading a video as a 'guide' for a champion and not showing masteries. This is just a flex.
Came here for masteries but they're not shown...