2023 Dragonfly OSMO Tents | Bikepack vs Backpack Version | Comparison with 2021 Bikepack
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- Get a first look at the 2023 NEMO Dragonfly OSMO tents! This video goes through the differences between the ultralight backpacking tent and the bikepacking tent as well as the differences between a 1P and 2P version. *Note apologies on the loud intro music. I forgot to turn it down before I rendered and posted.
Individual component weights:
NEMO Dragonfly OSMO Bikepack 1P
🔹Tent: 13.2 oz
🔹Rainfly: 11.7 oz
🔹Poles 13.5 oz
🔹Pole Bag: 0.4 oz
🔹Stuff Sack: 2.7 oz
🔹Landing Zone: 2.1 oz
NEMO Dragonfly OSMO 2P
🔹Tent: 16.7 oz
🔹Rainfly: 16.3 oz
🔹Poles: 12 oz
🔹Pole Bag: 0.4 oz
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What a great comparison and breakdown. You covered everything so well. I just received my Mayfly OSMO. I was pinching pennies but now wish I had gone ahead and bit the bullet and gone with the bikepacking version of the Dragonfly. Great tent with a ton of great features. Your video was so well done and informative I subbed and will binge-watch some of your videos. I'm really looking forward to more.
Excellent! Honestly the best tent video I’ve ever watched.🙌
Thanks Jerry!
All her videos are awesome
Thanks for the rain setup idea. Be well. Wishing you safe passage and good fortune ahead. Happy Trails!
Super thorough, super well done review! NEMO does make some really good products. I just recently got a NEMO tensor pad and it’s awesome!
Quality useful content keep it up!
Thank you for this video!
currently working on getting a bikepacking setup. subbed. this is one of the tents that i have been looking at. you answered all my questions and some i had not thought of. great job and will probably end up getting the bikepacking 2P tent.
Glad I could help! One thing I try to do is actually go through frequent questions and/or unanswered questions on NEMO's website and try to answer them in my reviews.
Great and thorough presentation ….thanks so much!!!
Glad it was helpful!
Really good reviews and comparisons!!
Thanks!
Great comparison. Love the Nemo products.
Bikepack version uses DAC Featherlite NSL poles which are stronger (but heavier) than the DAC Featherlite NFL poles that the regular back packing version uses. Nemo probably chose so because the shorter sections of the bikepack poles put more stress on the connection points. So in the end it evens out durability wise. Nice review. Was waiting on this one ever since that short video.
Thanks for the info! I didn’t catch the NSL vs NFL description on the poles so thanks for that.
Good video! I love the Dragonfly 2P. Major storms and no issues with the short head-end rain fly. So lightweight and very sturdy. Dog camper also and the bathtub floor is super tough!
Thank you!
What a thorough comparison of these tents, great job!!! I am purposing my tent for more technical adventure motorcycle riding using a "rackless" bag system rather than bulky and heavy panniers. Weight and size are paramount for riding the types of terrain I will encounter. Thanks for taking the time to produce and share your knowledge, your video was of great assistance in making my decision ...2p Bikepack it is!!!
Which tent did you end up going with and how has it held up ?
@@Jaake0324 … my apologies for the delayed response. I picked up the Big Agnes 2 person Bikepack Tent. I got it late in the season and only had the opportunity to take it on three shorter adventure motorcycle trips before winter closed the window on me. So far, no complaints at all! It is very lightweight, packs extremely small, I simply stuff it in the stuff sack (I don’t fold it at all) and throw the pole bag in my duffle alongside the tent. It’s quick and simple to set up and break down. The zippers work amazingly well one handed. The shorter cut pole system goes together no different than the longer cut poles. the stakes are very durable, much more so than standard stakes with other tents. The tent seems durable enough to me. So far, I love the tent, enough, so that I’m taking it on a six week adventure, motorcycle trip this summer from New Jersey to Montana and the Northwest National Parks. I don’t expect to have any issues! Hope this is helpful!!
I’m definitely going to need to buy one of these ⛺️ 🙌🏼🙌🏼
Wait…what? 😉😂
Have been looking for a good tent for myself to compliment my dagger osmo 3p that my son and i usei think the Dragonfly 2p is the one, seems better than coperspur hv ul2. Great reviews with differences well explained.
Well done Details! Could tell how much effort you put into the production of this video 👏 Need to get you on the cast with your hubbie to test that gear knowledge haha.
Might be some heated debate since we have very different backpacking styles and gear choices.
@@GIRLplusDOGAdventures haha all are welcome! Except Melly lovers.
Thanks!
You bet!
Great video! Thanks for taking the time. I am looking for a lightweight 1P and have it narrowed down to this as well as the Big Agnes Copper Spur HV UL1 and the Sea to Summit Alto TR 1. At this point, I have them ranked as the Big Agness, this, and then the StS. I am just having a hard time with that high rainfly! LOL. I know you said that you have not had any issues, but it just seems so counterintuitive as a rainfly. The big selling point for me on this one is the OSMO fabric, super intrigued by the properties over the straight nylon as the others. Open to your thoughts, as well as from others.
I think for ultimate weight savings with the durability the Dragonfly will beat it out. Are you looking at the bikepack versions or the regular backpacking tents? I can't help but love the short poles for the bikepack versions and with the Dragonfly it will also have that landing zone. I also think that it will depend on what type of climate you frequently backpack in. For rainier, wet, humid climates, it might come down to the OSMO fabric. I just got off trail where there was 97% humidity and the OSMO fabric did not soak in any moisture at night and this can also help save on weight. The new Dragonfly also has just as much internal storage space now as the Copper Spur.
Great video comparison of the tents! I have the 2021 bikepack version which I bought largely based on your review at that time. Its a great tent and more durable than my Big Agnes Copper Spur
Thanks Darren! The 2021 is still awesome and I’ll probably still use it for some time.
Same for me ! 😉
Excellent video comparison! Sounds like you and Remy will have brand new NEMO tents to test out and enjoy. I bought the NEMO Dragonfly 2P and NEMO OSMO Dagger 3P on your recommendations and love both tents! NEMO makes great quality products that last if you take care of them. 😉
Amazing! And I bet you use both for difference purposes.
@@GIRLplusDOGAdventures Actually, my husband had a Gregory Solitary 1P tent, so we bought the NEMO Dragonfly for me. We used them up at Wapiki Lake in the Dark Divide near Trout Lake, WA and found ourselves in 60 mph winds with snow, sleet and hail the next morning. He was so cold in his tent that he decided to sell his 30+ year old tent for a newer one. We couldn't both fit in the Dragonfly as we both have the NEMO Tensor Insulated Wide sleeping pads which are too wide for the 2P tent. So I bought him the NEMO OSMO Dagger 3P tent so we could both sleep in the same tent together and have room to spare. He still wants to get another 1P tent but hasn't quite found what he wants yet.
I have the 2p Backpacking version. My only complaint is not having the landing zone. While I’ve never had sssue with water getting in the head end (and I was just camping in a very heavy storm last week), I do find that water coming down off the fly can cause muddy splashback into the space under the vestibule. The landing zone would help keep things dry and clean. Thankfully, I have plenty of room in the cavernous tent itself. If you’re using this for just one person, it is massive. (even easily fits the Nemo Roamer pad if you happen to be using for car/motorcycle camping and want some extra comfort). Lots of room, and the overhead storage is great. (Will agree that I’d prefer a larger head end pocket, but do appreciate the one handed zipper operation, so I’ll deal with it.
The Osmo fabric works great. No stretching and no leaking so far.
Has proven to be a great tent.
Thanks for the additional info! Yes, I was super surprised they didn’t include the landing zone since they did in the Dagger Osmo. I never thought I’d need the Landing Zone, but since I had one on my previous Dragonfly it’s become one of the things I love about it.
First of all, thanks a lot for all the efforts for testinf and for making all these videos!
Now, if I remember your 2021 dragonfly review video correctly, you were somewhat annoyed by the short velcro strips that are used to attach the rainfly to the poles in the 2021 version. Is this still the case for the updated 2023 version, or have they been enlarged by nemo so that they are now easier to handle (especially with wet or cold hands or when there's lots of wind)?
They still having the annoying small Velcro strips ☹️
Awesome breakdown on the tents, Just a quick question why did you go with dragon fly vs hornet? Love the grey on bikepack wish they would use it it on reg version
Primarily because of the stronger denier of the tent with the dog and the Dragonfly is free standing vs the Hornet is semi-freestanding. Hornet volume is also smaller so with a 90lb dog it makes a difference.
What a thorough Video. Thanks so much!
I have a question about the 1P Version:
I'm less worried about rain coming in via the U shape cut out on the head area, since the bathtub floor extends very high there, so there is enough overlap between fly and bathtub floor.
I think the bigger Problem is the none door side (1P Version only, obviously). On this side, the fly doesn't go down to the ground either, but contrary to the head end, the bathtub floor isn't extended there - so there is basically no overlap.
Any Issues with rain coming in from this side when it's windy?
You should be able to adjust the fly to be close to the ground but not all the way. The fly does extend a bit out to the side so rain shouldn’t get in and you have about 4-5” of bathtub floor. I’m extremely windy storms though I can see some rain coming up, but we’re talking a lot of wind to force the rain up and under.
Great! I just got the 2021 Dragonfly Bikepack 2P beginning of this year after watching your original videos.
Is it still viable? Did you encounter rain on the Colorado Trail when you used the old design. Was the tent VERY heavy with it being wet?
These tents are pretty expensive and I can’t run out to get new Osmo Dragonfly.
I still love the 2021 version. Most of the rain was overnight of course so I would just trying to shake it off in the morning and then dry it out during lunch. It would dry very quickly in the sun. I never really noticed too much of a difference given my pack was already heavy.
Thanks for this thorough review! Nemo's own videos are awful at showing what all of the actual features are. Just to clarify: does the 1p backpack version have that nice mesh pocket at the foot end? And is the only hang loop on the inside the one you showed at the top, or are there others? I like to run laundry lines inside my tents, though I could probably get creative if there is only the one attachment point.
Yes, the 1P does have the extra storage on the foot end. Only 1 hang loop on the inside but there’s also the top mesh storage too you could hang stuff off of too or clip/rig the line up thru there.
Hey ! Long time not seen ! 🐕
Now, it's mandatory for you to go on trail, in order to test these new osmo tents, so we will know whether this osmo material is really stronger than older regular one (you had some textile tears during your Colorado trail adventures, if my memory is correct) 😁
Hopefully soon! Hiking the Superior Hiking Trail but the first section there is no on trail camping so I’ll be day hiking.
Great review...highlighted something for me about the new Dragonfly set up. Question - so as it is now with new clip system, you can't really set up as a fly and footprint only set up? Can you confirm that please? Do you think you could sew in a small piece of webbing with a grommet to the fly corners to be able to achieve that (or even a grommet attached to the corners just with a small cord on a loop?
Confirmed, yes you cannot do a fast fly set up in the new version so will need the tent to stake out the fly. For the grommet idea, are you wanting to be able to just do a fast fly? Trying to visualise what you're talking about.
Thank so much you for this very helpful video. Is the tent waterproof or only waterrepellent? Could you make a Video with Nemo Dragonfly osmo vs. Big Agnes Copper spur? Which one performers better under heavy rain and bad wind conditions? Which one has the more durable Material? And what is ment with live time warrenty? Do Nemo give support, when a tent pole brakes or a zipper won‘t work properly anymore?
The tent is waterproof. I do have a video on the Dragonfly vs Copper Spur (2021 versions) czcams.com/video/_llM6QHnBPY/video.html here you can review. The newer Dragonfly OSMO should perform better under heavy rain due to the new material. Both are pretty decent during bad weather. I do prefer the higher bath tub floors during windy storms though because it prevents water and other debris from getting in. NEMO's lifetime warranty would be on the construction and design of the tent or a manufacturing defect. So if a tent pole breaks because of normal wear and tear then they wouldn't replace the whole tent for it. However, if it breaks because of a design flaw or faulty material then they would replace it. You would send the tent in for inspection to NEMO. Same thing with the zipper. It depends. For some of those reasons, I like to purchase NEMO products from a retailer like REI because you have 1 year to return it if the tent doesn't work out for you.
Did you find the OSMO 1P Bikepacking tent adequate on your national park trips? Is there a video of one of these trips that shows the interior of the 1P Bikepacking tent set up with your pad, sleeping bag/quilt and pack inside to show how roomy it is. I've narrowed my choice down to the OSMO Bikepacing tent but am hesitant as to whether I should buy the 1P or 2P.. Love your gear reviews. Thanks.
I felt the 1P was definitely big enough and had extra room. I actually did film some broll of the set up but didn’t use it in the review. If you shoot me an IG message or email (from my channel home page) I’m happy to send some clips over
Such a great comparison!! It's just so hard to decide 😂 but I'm definitely sold on one or the other
Do you know what's the difference in weight from both poles styles, in the 2 person tent?
It's 4-6oz heavier for the bikepack, but some of that is because of the stuff sack for the bikepack as well as the landing zone. So I would say only 1-2 oz heavier for the bikepack if you remove those pieces.
@@GIRLplusDOGAdventures thanks 🥰
Thank you again… just curious in regards to 2021 model of Dragonfly Bikepack Tent you mention being able to drop weight: 1. Change stuff bags, don’t use ground cloth, change tent stakes…. I thought you said…would be a 2lb plus tent.
It may be my kitchen digital scale but when I weighed - the tent, fly, & landing zone it all weighed 2 lbs and the poles weigh 1 lb ( No stakes) that’s 3lbs with out stakes.
Do I have a defective scale?-
Sometimes the kitchen scales get a little funky. It should definitely be
I've been trying to decide between these two tents and also the Dagger OSMO 2P Backpacking tent. 1) On the bike tent, I can't tell how much of the ceiling is black mesh for stargazing. From videos on Nemo's webpage, it looks like its just a small square over the head area with the white privacy mesh covering the ceiling over the leg area. The Dagger ceiling is all black mesh. How much of the bike tent ceiling is black mesh? 2) I'm always concerned about "little bear" fur balls nibbling on any gear left outside the tent as they search for salt. I love the looks of the Landing Zone but is it capable of deterring these guys from ending your trip? 3) Last question, Amazon seasonal rating for both the OSMO Dragonfly bike tent & backpacking tent is only Summer. I want a three season tent. Did you find they both worked fine in Spring and Fall? You had snow on them and they seemed just. Thanks for producing such a fine video comparison review. (I found your CZcams channel from SBO giving you a Shout Out Thanks for planning their Colorado Trail adventure). Looking forward to watching your content😍
Hi @sierraseb331, if you go to about 17:19 in the video you can the "naked" tent view and the black mesh is just over the top but extends down to the foot area. The white privacy mesh is pretty much just up the sides. The landing zone definitely won't protect the gear from those pesky rodents, just rain/mud. The Dragonfly definitely works 3 season. I've used it in the winter and it's been fine. Not of course if you have 3 feet of snow, but the higher bathtub floors actually help keep a lot of the cold wind from getting at you. I also like the 2P for winter because I can cook inside the vestibule in the tent w/o having to leave my sleeping bag and it's super cozy.
Can you use the bikepacking poles on the regular dragonfly osmos? I wonder if they would make it so people could buy those poles for people with the tent already
You could but they don’t sell them separately unfortunately. 😕
Well done on getting hold of one. Can't get the 2P bikepack tent in the UK for love nor money.
Yeah I signed up on the waitlist and as soon as they were back in stock snagged one. I’ll probably return the regular 2P for the Bikepack version.
nice video but at around 21:00 you said weight difference was about 1 and half ounces, i think you meant to say 1 and half pounds. which is a big difference.
Ah, so clarifying that the weight difference between the bikepack stuff sack and regular stuff sack is 1.5oz, only between the stuff sacks.
I've found the 1p bikepack for 330€ on sale, the older version without Osmo. do you think it's a good deal or is the osmo upgrade worth the 150+€ price hike?
I think if you’re used to the standard nylon tents you won’t miss the Osmo fabric. I like the color better of the 2021 version too.
Has the Dragonfly been upgraded in 2023? I thought the Oslo was a 2022 upgrade... or is this forthcoming?
Dagger was 2022 and both Dragonfly versions had an upgrade this year in 2023.
We should have you try some of our products.
Feel free to connect. Contact info is on my channel page.
How do you keep a 90 pound dogs nails from puncturing the floor ?
I have a really thin micro fiber towel (full sized) I lay on the floor next to my sleeping pad and his bed. Also helps with muddy paws and to wipe off condensation in the morning.
What's a rain fly,don't you mean a flysheet?
They’re interchangeable and definitely very regional. Similar to saying ground sheet vs footprint.
@@GIRLplusDOGAdventures Well I have never heard the term before.As for footprint that is just a groudsheet for tents with weak bottoms.
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Balance it to your dialog at no more than 3-4 dB over. Not the +20 you seem to have it set to. That's just ridiculous, and very rude.
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