All these people saying it's not worth it and they're do better off, I'd like to know where I can clear 50k without a degree or experience because all the trades I've looked at require a lot of training and slaving for years in an apprenticeship before you ever take home a living.
The short answer is no. Even if you land a local gig with decent pay, they run you ragged. 60-70 hours a week was awesome at first, but it wears you down. For single guys that want to make bank fast, it’s great but it gets to you eventually.
I drive for Walmart. Clear about $100,000 as a company driver. Relaxed routes for the most part from warehouse to Walmart. On five and off five. Paid for literally everything I do including sleeping. Switched over from Swift Transportation after 3 years as a diamond driver and it's been a great experience.
Rather drive on the road than be in fast food and factory work and better than going to college for 4 years to get a degree that possibly doesn’t even get you a job
Hmm, well I came from factory, construction, and warehousing backgrounds...grunt work, and I make more money driving a rig than I ever did then. Sure I’m gone all the time but what am I really missing? Sitting on the couch after work? No thanks. I’d rather be making $1200-1500 a week driving my rig than $12 an hour killing myself in a factory with some boss screaming at me. Trucking ain’t what it was but for me it’s better than the alt.
I can make $1200-1500 a week, and sleep in my own bed. Of course, I have to find more than one job a year, whatever Ag season is running. Benefit? By the time I'm ready to pop some idiot (and there's always an idiot), the season is over and off I go.
It depends on what company you drive for and how you budget your home expenses. You could be consistently bringing home $1500 per week. But if your mortgage payment exceed 2 weeks pay, you're making payments on a 2020 Toyota Tundra TRD, a Harley Davidson Road King, plus utilities, cable, gas and food you may find yourself unfairly accusing this industry of not paying enough.
I agree it also depends on the driver's lifestyle suchas being single (or with a significant other that can also travel) or married with children. So of course they will miss their families being on the road.
I'm a diesel tech; got my CDL thru a truck driving school and ened up driving motorcoaches. Couldn't be happier. Flexibility is key. You can get a job anywhere with a CDL, from my town to Chi Town.
I stop driving otr in 98 and never regretted it. Waiting 3-4 hours to get loaded, and not getting paid a dime was the final straw. Then after sitting all that time they want you to drive all night.
I go when I'm rested and legal, not just when the clock says I'm legal. There's nothing mandating you must drive after your 10. It's just dispatch pushing you, but if you're still tired, don't go. It's your call not theirs.
The ELD thing, wrong! We just had our logs switched from OBRD to ELD mode and it's a total mess. Get to a terminal, switch to a Yard Move so it doesn't go into Drive mode at 5mph, it sometimes would cancel out the Yard Move and simply revert back to On Duty, which then reverts to Driving. Another issue, it creates an absolute mess on the actual log line - ALL of the random events are logged, the engine on / off, ELD connect / disconnect, some other random crap. For guys like me, an owner-op / lease-op, I don't need a babysitting tools telling me when I'm actually tired and when I have to take a break. Speaking of breaks, the whole waiting for 30 minutes is crap. Before, when I stop, go use a bathroom, get a quick bite and some drinks, get back to my truck, eat and drink and I'd still have 10 minutes left on my 30. Unnecessary, I got my rest break, I should be able to drive now. But nope, now I have to just sit in the truck and wait, often blocking the fuel lane because all the spots are taken at night.
You've got to be paid hourly in this occupation now. It must be at least, minimally, 27.00 per hour now (we're headlong towards 2021 here soon!). I think a newly licensed (no work experience yet) CDL Tractor Trailer Driver should start at 27.00 per hour. At 2 years in, it should start at 29.00 hour. At 4 years in, it should start at 30.00 hour. That 5 to 10 hours (or more) overtime pay a week will assist in earning enough to be middle- middle-class American Apple Pie. Pay by the mile is a bygone dinosaur.
I used to run a day cab for $17/ hour. I finally got a great job hauling oversized equipment and I train new drivers in the steel hauling industry. Fortunately for me, we make a weekly salary and 30% of the load. I was so bored with moving boxes around, now when I show up for work, I may have a stuck combine to haul, an excavator to deliver or pick up a few coils of steel. It’s a different adventure every day!
I'm a company driver doing dry bulk tankers. I'm gone 1-2 nights a week unless I want longer runs, off most weekends and made $75k my first year doing it. There are still good places to make a living in this business without living on the road, just have to be willing to work hard.
I just got my license here in San Antonio and thank god there is a job here that's gonna start paying me 1600 a week and its only monday to friday 8 to 5, I hope you can find a better company to drive for soon because that sounds frustrating.
Well said and if you just want to run over the road as a company driver learn to negotiate I used to start by saying I don't drive govern trucks or work on the weekend now I would add I won't have a camera facing me in the truck either
just got into trucking driving for a local company. Was it worth it? For me it was. Decent pay, do my 9 to 10hr drive a day and come home to the family. Not too bad if you ask me. Better than lots of other jobs out there.
I’m 20 years old and got my CDL at 18 for me it was a struggle finding a job but you bet them oilfield jobs hire me on the spot that’s where the money is here in Texas and you can take a lot of pride into a honest days work but better believe they run you ragged
I left Trucking on the curb side right where it belongs, it's no longer fun and the money sucks...... I have completely changed careers and I'm much happier for doing that, it feels good to belong to a community and be home every night with family and friends, when you're a long-haul truck driver you are invisible and you don't exist.... If you do it long enough you will lose your family and your friends permanently, there's not a lady on the planet that wants to sleep alone at night, sending all your love along the wire just isn't enough.
I agree 💯% I sacrificed so much of my life on the road. I finally gave up my CDL for good! Trucking is a dead end job with the worst hours and almost no benefits. I'm so glad to be out of it.👍
You are right!!! I almost lost my family on the count of a Force dispatch. Telling me all the time that these loads has got to keep moving. They was treating me like I was the only driver. And like always it was hurry hurry then wait.
Trucking is what you make it. I am making a killing with my company. I am a company driver making and running like a owner operator without owning the truck. You have to educate yourself about the trucking business and know your worth. You have to negotiate and show your value. Work for companies that allow you to call the shots where and when you drive. Don’t be loyal to any trucking companies and never take less than what you previously made. Always ask for the moon when negotiating pay.And don’t let them bring up what other truckers are making that has shit to do with you. BE ON TIME WHEN PICKING UP AND DELIVERING LOADS. Have it to where shippers and receivers are requesting you for certain loads. It’s money out here to be made. Just look at certain truck drivers and how at peace they look at the truck stops, shippers and receivers. How their truck and trailer looks. If you are observant you can tell. Ask the old heads about the business of the trucking industry they’ll tell you what to look out for and what to do... Bitching and complaining won’t make you more money...
I'm ok with driving,, been at it a while. Don't mind ice and snow. Would rather drive 2 weeks out west than 4 day east of Ohio. But now I'm in a plastic truck with simi autonomous safety devices that beep at me everytime a car gets in front of me so, I'm being harassed while navigating urban traffic. At less than hiway speed...
As someone coming in from the tech industry, I gotta say that even a fully automated truck will require a supervising or attending human on board for centuries to come. Someone will still be needed for walk-arounds, inflating low tires, attaching the hoses, hooking up the fuel pump or change cord, and much more. Automation will make driving safer and drivers will make automation safer.
I was blessed with the company I'm with, i started as a van driver and the company trained me to get my class B. Next year my boss will train me for class A. I am currently only making 24 an hour, but the max pay is 32 an hour, with a ton of PTO. My first year with the company gave me 230 hours of pto, and 80 hours of sick leave.
Was with warner since late October and after finishing training. Went solo.... made 8.57 a hour. 14 hour days... load payment was so bad. I'm literally going back to uber. made more doing uber in 6 hours then i did working 2 days as a solo driver
I’ve been driving for 9 years. I just turned 30 this year. I live in central Indiana where there are lots of trucking jobs. The first two years I drove OTR and the rest local. I’m one of those guys that’s done everything in 9 years from hauling produce from California to the Midwest to working local for an LTL company to hauling gasoline locally (best paying by far). But when you factor in your health and the schedule always being up in the air and all the other headaches I’m saving money to get out of trucking for good.
If I'm giving up family life and not being part of my community. On the road living in a truck?. Plus my health taking a hit? I would want $3000 a week. Clean.
Why don't you just find a construction company or a farm and get your time and experience in that way? One accident out here on the roadway can cost you your license, and there's not an insurance on the planet that will touch you for CDL driving, one ticket or accident is all it takes anymore, I would sure rather be close to home if something like that happens
I've been driving for a year now and have noticed that I have softness of breath. Was in great health before I started driving. Gym every other day. Now after 12 hours all I want to do is get home and relax. Stay safe out there drivers
I'm seriously thinking about placing my stuff in storage, and going with Prime to get my cdl. I wanted to stay with them for a year, and save up that entire year so that I could relocate to Texas. My end goal is to find a local job with thousands in the savings
I'm going into the industry. Gonna grit my teeth for the first year and get that done. After that I can land something better . I know plenty of guys who can help me get on with a good company.
I see vids like these from the old timers, but as someone like me looking to get more income, what these guys considered not worth it is an absolute upgrade for people like me. I'm happy if I'm at a job making at least $400 a week, so if I were able to become a trucker someday and make what I'm seeing posted in the comments, I would be so happy I'd be doing backflips.
All I can say is that disagree with your comment I’ve drove for over 14 years and trust me the grass isn’t greener on the other side........... I don’t have the time or patience to type the message that would follow explaining why the trucking industry is not a good choice anymore. Just believe when I tell you I was a young dumb kid when I got into and now I’ve been in it for long enough it’s all I know and I’m starting to regret it . If I’d have known then what I know now about where the industry has gone I’d never have gotten into a truck
After 27yrs what else am I going to do... it's such a love hate relationship with trucking.. There have been some great times and moments over the years but the heartbreak of not being there for family kids wife etc really sucks... I struggle with otr and local and regional work...the World is getting smaller for me and it's scary as hell... been driving for a total of 39yrs and I'm 50!!! I still got a ways to go.. I'm out at 62 regardless of finances!!! I'll probably be broke and homeless!!! I'm 2 to 3 weeks away from that now... it's only gonna get worse!! Thanks 4 letting me vent!!
We've been using the electronic log for several years and I love it. No more fighting with dispatch about hours in the day. When I started driving 20 years ago loose leaf throw away logs were the norm at a few different carriers I worked for thank the good Lord those days of hell are done. My life also became much more satisfying when I learned to say NO! No arguing with dispatch just No or at least a no thanks!
Thank for the inspiring words. Im just over a year into my carear, and have learned a lot about this industry. Biggest has to be how to know how to adjust a slack adjuster on a trailer a negligent shuttle driver brings you for a relay. Dont trust the equipment. Be professional.
Hey Driver. I hope you liked today's video. Now at the end of 2019, rolling into a new year, it was a good time to address this issue, that we are so often asked. Will you stick with trucking in the upcoming year? How's that driving career treating you?
I'm not getting paid like I was OTR. But I'm older now and I got a job that brings me in on the weekends. I miss talking to drivers but that's the change of technology I guess. But I found a job that it's small company and they leave me alone. I do my work and that's it -it's good for my company as well.
This year is my second year driving and I've seen no reason to quit, my job keeps evolving for the better and I work with good people. I'd like a "new" truck that hasn't been through the wringer (please santa?) But otherwise making 62cpm running between New England and OH/IN has been very profitable for me and gets me home weekends. This industry is what you make it. Maybe I'm just lucky. ELDs have only made my life more difficult, wish I could go back to the AOBRD since you could cheat a little and be more productive and you had more room for error. Both just force you into dumb situations if you are a responsible driver but I suppose some regulation is needed for the safety of some drivers and the public.
I am doing what I can to get away from operating heavy trucks. 33 years has been long enough, but it hasn't been easy to make lateral moves into safety, training, operations, etc. with any company. I have been told I am more valuable as a driver, yet I don't see that value reflected in the wages being offered. Just sad...
Local food delivery is good. Great pay! Till your body wears the hell out. I got out and now work for a gas company, using my CDL but driving is just apart of the job
Do the math, you can work a double shift at 7-11 and put just as much money in your pocket as working 14 hrs per day trucking and you will be home every night.
It's really no big deal. All I hear is how much it costs to run a truck and all the rules. ELD, Insurance, Cargo Insurance, General Liability, HUT, IFTA, Tax Stamp, MC#, USDOT, STATE DOT, Tickets, Tolls, Maintenance, Fuel etc etc etc... By the way I am being EXTREMELY sarcastic.
Hello Dave greetings from Southwest Michigan again 32 year driver veteran here local LTL Freight glad to hear you talk about that in the beginning you and your wife have a great Christmas
I make more on a mixer(concrete truck) than most over the road guys. I've heard many of their money stories. Trust me I've trained plenty of over the road guys.
Having read some of the comments I'd like to add this; This is not a family friendly job, and every single one of you knew that going in. The job is perfect for a young single man, or a man (or woman) who's not interested in getting married and having kids. If I could start all over again, I would have bought a truck, used my sisters address for my home address, and stay out there. No house payment, or bills of any kind not related to trucking. I could have retired by now, and bought a house out right, and sitting on my ass trying to catch the same fish in a pond somewhere. And it's a hell of allot easier job now then ever. You young drivers never had to keep hundreds of maps in the truck, or using the pay phones to call for directions to a receiver ... and you know how that is a crap shoot 70% of the time, or running multi log books, and everything else the shorted up my life. Naa.. truckin is easy. Like MakeCents always says; Quitters never win, and winners never quit.
I make $2000 a week driving for Sysco food service. IT’S A HARDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD JOB. The pay is great, you’re Home everyday, IF you don’t mind unloading 900-1200 single boxes by hand and gotta separate the WHOLE ENTIRE TRAILER BY YOUR SELF having 8-12 stops a day, going down basements with a hand truck delivering HEAVY meats you’re gonna alright 🙂. Oh use good lifting technique cause you can damage your back. 😬
I dumped that or crap and I liked my company. I was with them for about 3 yrs. I haul logs now and am home for dinner every day and off on weekends unless I want to work. The money you spend otr aint worth it, especially if you like to eat good.
It all depends on who you work for.I'm gone four day's a week sleeper team, and I have weekend's off. We average about 5250 miles on our weekly run same schedule. Pay average is 2750 a week, plus 175 perdium included. We each drive 4, 11hr shifts. 44hrs driving for close to 3grand,not a bad gig.
This guy is telling the truth on everything. Before trucking I weigh a 139 pounds now I wait a 198 pounds at 5ft8in. I can be bad for your health when you are not taking care for yourself.
I’ve been trucking for a 1 1/2 now with a mega carrier, won’t say which one. I’m 32 years old, took a long time to get my shit together and find a career to make something of my life, im a recovering addict and if only I knew what I was getting myself into by going into trucking. I feel like almost all my life is either in the truck cockpit or sleeper. Lonely all the time, four wheelers drive me nuts when I used to be the most peaceful person behind of a wheel. I’ve done most my driving in north east and it’s terrible. Away from friends, family and my girl and the way I eat is taking a toll on me. I really don’t know what else to do, I wish trucking was good like it used to be from the research I’ve done. Not sure why I comment I never ever do, guess I wanted to get it off my chest. Ur videos are very informative for me, ur the real deal, it has helped. Right now I’m just paying my dues until I got enough experience to do something local and get with the right company. If that don’t work I’m out, it’s not worth it or me returning to my old ways. Anyway I’m done rambling, god bless
Hey Frank. If you're doing your trucking in the north east you're a better man than I am. Trucking through there would drive a sane man to drink. In fact that whole eastern seaboard depresses me. Have you ever thought about moving west, like Nebraska or Wyoming? It's all about quality of life, not working to death just to survive. Take care of yourself. Take some time off at Xmas and use it to unwind, relax and re-evaluate. I want 2020 to be a better year for you. Thanks for watching and writing in! Dave
I drove for a little over 8 years regional and otr. The pay was decent enough I quit because I was tired if being treated like a second class citizen everywhere I went. Dispatchers, shipping and receiving clerks, DOT and state boys, even truck stop employees. You are treated like shit pretty much everywhere. It wears you down. Now I'm a shipping and receiving clerks and go out of my way to give every driver the VIP treatment.
There is a reason they stick new guys in OTR jobs; they can pay them cheap. In three days I'm quitting Stevens Transport, and taking a job hauling milk where I'm off two days a week and home every night and paid hourly. The minimum a OTR driver should make is 55k, yet tons of guys work their ass of for 35-40k.
'oh by the way to reiterate trucking companies love sheeple over people and other trades do as well and it is pre programmed into us when we all start kindergarten particiculy in the public school system employers do discriminate on hireing when they see a applicant that attended private schools or had home schooling so does the military you are not moldable
I have a class b. I made 96g +- this year and I was home every night. We don’t have eld because somehow they got an exemption but they will dead head a truck at 13.5.i work 52 hours per week.
I’m a CDL holder but not on the road yet. My husband is OTR though. When my last child is 17, we’ll team drive. I liked being on the road with him. And we’ll be able to just save money🤷🏽♀️😊
The market for trucks is saturated. That makes the carriers have to cut costs to complete. It’s a race to the bottom. This is more so in dry van. The way to make money is to diversify. Drivers with special qualifications set them apart. The money is in hazmat, heavy haul, and flatbed.
So spot on in your analysis. I did a little Ag trucking that didn’t even require a CDL this past summer. It was fun. There’s a lot of waiting for weather though no work no pay if the fields are too wet. I think I will do some more possibly this next summer.
After driving for over 45 years I finally have had enough. Sold my truck and retired .Forced to drive unreliable equipment (emissions shit) and soaring expenses outragous cost for equipment and over legislation . Dave I have seen guys that tried to slow down and take care only to be sat at home and starved. Being a company driver is the only way to survive today. Keep up the good work.
I’m just getting into the industry, everyone keeps telling me not to because the pay sucks... well I’m in the towing industry and make less then 3k a month to almost get run over on a daily basis so if I can pull in $1000 a week I’d be happy for awhile
I was in the over the road trucking since 1989. I have plenty of skills that allow me to do work away from trucking. The summer of 2019 marked my exit from an industry that I thought was going to retire me. I’m now running a maintenance company. And home every night. Making the same $$$ in 25 hours a week as I made before.
They harass us too much now. First; they inspect stationary trucks a rest area. I am like so what my light doesn’t work I am not driving, I have a light bulb I’ll change in the morning when I do pre trip inspection. Second, they telling us we can’t take certain routes we have to take the route that has the weight.
I agree 100%. I’m a Union 23 year ‘local’ ready mix concrete driver. Excellent pay and benefits and best of all - home every night. No lack of work for foreseeable future here in Phoenix. C’mon down boys!
I've been lucky enough in my career so far that I've not had to go OTR. I've always been paid a daily rate or hourly. My first job was a weekly rate of $650 as a beer distributor. Apparently I picked the wrong company to haul beer for because every stop had to be worked into backstock. The other local distributor had merchandisers work the product at grocery stores. Our merchandisers only had to do displays and fill the shelves at certain stores daily. I'm currently hauling a vacuum tanker, an end dump trailer and a winch truck in the oilfield. I make $19 an hour with OT after 40. Only downside is no benefits. It's a mom an pop company with 5 trucks but only 2 drivers
I started trucking in 2001 and I drove OTR. Thru the years I never found a trucking company worth a crap til I Started hauling tanker hazmat. I worked for Heniff and I took home $1500-1800 a week. I decided to stay out there and save. 6 years past working for the same company. I managed to save 110k in the bank. I put that money into flight training and got all my ratings and went to an airline. This was a 3 year process from training to and airline. Best decision I made. Day 1 of my initial hire I was flown out to Houston for training. I stayed in a Marriott for the whole time of my orientation and training. After all my training and certification, I was a first officer. After a year of working for the same airline I became a line holder kinda like dedicated in trucking. Every time I report to work I commute to Houston from Florida. Every overnight I have I stay in a nice hotel and we are treated very well by the public. Moral of the story is, if you don’t like a situation there’s always a choice to change it. Some trucking companies are better than others. Some are worse. Anytime you go into a job that’s easy to get into, it’s most often not worth having. Trucking wasn’t all bad because I got to see the country but it’s only great for a season. How many OTR drivers make enough today to save for their next significant endeavor?
I got my cdl in Dec 2019 - I just have a year experience , and I am looking for different experiences , is it difficult for a driver like me to get hire from a company like Heniff I live in Oklahoma and been doing OTR dry van , .50 cpm , I've been told that's very low rate
I will never ever dirive for a company with driver facing cameras.
The problem is politicians who have never been in a truck before are telling us what we can/can’t do, while being paid by big corporations lobbyists 🤬
Yup, that's a huge problem in this industry!
I will refuse to drive for any company that has spy cameras.
"Home Weekly" really means 34 hr reset. "Home Daily" really means park at the terminal and return after your 10 hr break is up.
I say that's not enough home time! Tell dispatch when you'll be ready to go again.
I love being a Trucker and my loner lifestyle & Wanderlust keeps me happy 🤠
I drive a concrete truck and I make nearly $60,000 every single year tractor trailer driver should be making a minimum of $25 an hour plus benefits
All these people saying it's not worth it and they're do better off, I'd like to know where I can clear 50k without a degree or experience because all the trades I've looked at require a lot of training and slaving for years in an apprenticeship before you ever take home a living.
After 20+ years I retired and gave up my CDL. I couldn't be happier! God Bless all of you Truckers 🙏♥️
What do you do for a living now?
Retired lol
The short answer is no. Even if you land a local gig with decent pay, they run you ragged. 60-70 hours a week was awesome at first, but it wears you down. For single guys that want to make bank fast, it’s great but it gets to you eventually.
Been driving since the mid-90’s....
I left-became a CDL instructor and will NEVER FACE 25-30 inches of snow in upstate New York EVER AGAIN!!!
Is it worth it? NO. I got out of an OTR truck, and into a roll off dumpster truck, and gave myself a $25,000 pay raise.
I hear that! Good move!
I think that is most jobs,the pay is not keeping up with inflation.
Go local if you can! I work 40 hours a week doing local deliveries and I'm home every night. No way I'd go back to OTR
I drive for Walmart. Clear about $100,000 as a company driver. Relaxed routes for the most part from warehouse to Walmart. On five and off five. Paid for literally everything I do including sleeping. Switched over from Swift Transportation after 3 years as a diamond driver and it's been a great experience.
Excellent testimonial!!
Rather drive on the road than be in fast food and factory work and better than going to college for 4 years to get a degree that possibly doesn’t even get you a job
Hmm, well I came from factory, construction, and warehousing backgrounds...grunt work, and I make more money driving a rig than I ever did then. Sure I’m gone all the time but what am I really missing? Sitting on the couch after work? No thanks. I’d rather be making $1200-1500 a week driving my rig than $12 an hour killing myself in a factory with some boss screaming at me. Trucking ain’t what it was but for me it’s better than the alt.
I can make $1200-1500 a week, and sleep in my own bed. Of course, I have to find more than one job a year, whatever Ag season is running.
Benefit? By the time I'm ready to pop some idiot (and there's always an idiot), the season is over and off I go.
Just have to get away from the big carriers. I pay my guys a 80 thousand dollar salery. They are home most weekends
It depends on what company you drive for and how you budget your home expenses. You could be consistently bringing home $1500 per week. But if your mortgage payment exceed 2 weeks pay, you're making payments on a 2020 Toyota Tundra TRD, a Harley Davidson Road King, plus utilities, cable, gas and food you may find yourself unfairly accusing this industry of not paying enough.
I agree it also depends on the driver's lifestyle suchas being single (or with a significant other that can also travel) or married with children. So of course they will miss their families being on the road.
I'm a diesel tech; got my CDL thru a truck driving school and ened up driving motorcoaches. Couldn't be happier. Flexibility is key. You can get a job anywhere with a CDL, from my town to Chi Town.
I stop driving otr in 98 and never regretted it. Waiting 3-4 hours to get loaded, and not getting paid a dime was the final straw. Then after sitting all that time they want you to drive all night.
There is no driver shortage! The industry has a retention problem. Turn over is over 95%.
Yes
Either the economy sucks or its more trucks on the road that they are saying... Because trucking companies are shutting down
Factoring in the time away from home and your health, OTR pay seems to he equivalent to, or worse than working at your local McDonalds.
All industries pay much less!
Being a machinist used to be a well paying career, now it’s dumbed down to 12 hour job
J Johnson my cousin makes 25 an hour
As for ELDs, I've never had a problem with them, however the 14hr daily clock forces a lot of us to drive tired.
I go when I'm rested and legal, not just when the clock says I'm legal. There's nothing mandating you must drive after your 10. It's just dispatch pushing you, but if you're still tired, don't go. It's your call not theirs.
Pay by the mile is the problem whether you're over the road or not your on a time clock pay accordingly, 14 hour clock 14 hour pay .
The ELD thing, wrong! We just had our logs switched from OBRD to ELD mode and it's a total mess. Get to a terminal, switch to a Yard Move so it doesn't go into Drive mode at 5mph, it sometimes would cancel out the Yard Move and simply revert back to On Duty, which then reverts to Driving. Another issue, it creates an absolute mess on the actual log line - ALL of the random events are logged, the engine on / off, ELD connect / disconnect, some other random crap. For guys like me, an owner-op / lease-op, I don't need a babysitting tools telling me when I'm actually tired and when I have to take a break. Speaking of breaks, the whole waiting for 30 minutes is crap. Before, when I stop, go use a bathroom, get a quick bite and some drinks, get back to my truck, eat and drink and I'd still have 10 minutes left on my 30. Unnecessary, I got my rest break, I should be able to drive now. But nope, now I have to just sit in the truck and wait, often blocking the fuel lane because all the spots are taken at night.
You've got to be paid hourly in this occupation now.
It must be at least, minimally,
27.00 per hour now (we're headlong towards 2021 here soon!).
I think a newly licensed (no work experience yet) CDL Tractor Trailer Driver should start at 27.00 per hour.
At 2 years in, it should start at 29.00 hour.
At 4 years in, it should start at 30.00 hour.
That 5 to 10 hours (or more) overtime pay a week will assist in earning enough to be middle- middle-class American Apple Pie.
Pay by the mile is a bygone dinosaur.
Been on the road for 18 years and I approve of this video.. It's all truth.
I used to run a day cab for $17/ hour. I finally got a great job hauling oversized equipment and I train new drivers in the steel hauling industry. Fortunately for me, we make a weekly salary and 30% of the load. I was so bored with moving boxes around, now when I show up for work, I may have a stuck combine to haul, an excavator to deliver or pick up a few coils of steel. It’s a different adventure every day!
Nice!
If you can find a local job its ok im pulling for general motors 30 bucks a hour !!! Flint Michigan
2020 is my last year on trucking.... i love trucking but it’s getting so bad this days
I've been driving the refuse truck for over a month now. The hours are better, the pay is better, and the company has more respect for me.
I'm a company driver doing dry bulk tankers. I'm gone 1-2 nights a week unless I want longer runs, off most weekends and made $75k my first year doing it. There are still good places to make a living in this business without living on the road, just have to be willing to work hard.
Man I make 1250 a week find me a job where I come home every night making that much with no college degree I'll wait 🚮
Tower crane operating and tower crane hauling. Especially on a barge with bridge work. Thank me later.
I agree some of the drivers that complain of not making money is due to them not hustling, trip planning and using their hos clock better.
I just got my license here in San Antonio and thank god there is a job here that's gonna start paying me 1600 a week and its only monday to friday 8 to 5, I hope you can find a better company to drive for soon because that sounds frustrating.
Well said and if you just want to run over the road as a company driver learn to negotiate I used to start by saying I don't drive govern trucks or work on the weekend now I would add I won't have a camera facing me in the truck either
Thank you for what you do for us truckers. As a first year trucker. I really appreciate the information.
Thank you for watching! Happy to help!
just got into trucking driving for a local company. Was it worth it? For me it was. Decent pay, do my 9 to 10hr drive a day and come home to the family. Not too bad if you ask me. Better than lots of other jobs out there.
I’m 20 years old and got my CDL at 18 for me it was a struggle finding a job but you bet them oilfield jobs hire me on the spot that’s where the money is here in Texas and you can take a lot of pride into a honest days work but better believe they run you ragged
As a truck driver, I was not treated worse except in military basic training. Rodney Dangerfield got more respect than truck drivers.
This is truth.
I left Trucking on the curb side right where it belongs, it's no longer fun and the money sucks......
I have completely changed careers and I'm much happier for doing that, it feels good to belong to a community and be home every night with family and friends, when you're a long-haul truck driver you are invisible and you don't exist....
If you do it long enough you will lose your family and your friends permanently, there's not a lady on the planet that wants to sleep alone at night, sending all your love along the wire just isn't enough.
I agree 💯% I sacrificed so much of my life on the road. I finally gave up my CDL for good! Trucking is a dead end job with the worst hours and almost no benefits. I'm so glad to be out of it.👍
You are right!!! I almost lost my family on the count of a Force dispatch. Telling me all the time that these loads has got to keep moving. They was treating me like I was the only driver. And like always it was hurry hurry then wait.
I agree. What do you do for a living now?
As a second year company driver I grossed 80k but I had to bust my ass doing it. So it can be done just find a good company.
Trucking is what you make it. I am making a killing with my company. I am a company driver making and running like a owner operator without owning the truck. You have to educate yourself about the trucking business and know your worth. You have to negotiate and show your value. Work for companies that allow you to call the shots where and when you drive. Don’t be loyal to any trucking companies and never take less than what you previously made. Always ask for the moon when negotiating pay.And don’t let them bring up what other truckers are making that has shit to do with you. BE ON TIME WHEN PICKING UP AND DELIVERING LOADS. Have it to where shippers and receivers are requesting you for certain loads. It’s money out here to be made. Just look at certain truck drivers and how at peace they look at the truck stops, shippers and receivers. How their truck and trailer looks. If you are observant you can tell. Ask the old heads about the business of the trucking industry they’ll tell you what to look out for and what to do... Bitching and complaining won’t make you more money...
I'm ok with driving,, been at it a while. Don't mind ice and snow. Would rather drive 2 weeks out west than 4 day east of Ohio.
But now I'm in a plastic truck with simi autonomous safety devices that beep at me everytime a car gets in front of me so, I'm being harassed while navigating urban traffic. At less than hiway speed...
Just get into heavy haul I'm gone only 3-4 days a week usually and make 3,000-11,000 in those 3-4 days that I'm gone no cap!
As someone coming in from the tech industry, I gotta say that even a fully automated truck will require a supervising or attending human on board for centuries to come. Someone will still be needed for walk-arounds, inflating low tires, attaching the hoses, hooking up the fuel pump or change cord, and much more. Automation will make driving safer and drivers will make automation safer.
If you drive OTR for some time and you find you like it...Once its in your blood it will never leave.
I was blessed with the company I'm with, i started as a van driver and the company trained me to get my class B. Next year my boss will train me for class A. I am currently only making 24 an hour, but the max pay is 32 an hour, with a ton of PTO.
My first year with the company gave me 230 hours of pto, and 80 hours of sick leave.
Was with warner since late October and after finishing training. Went solo.... made 8.57 a hour. 14 hour days... load payment was so bad. I'm literally going back to uber. made more doing uber in 6 hours then i did working 2 days as a solo driver
This is my second time,Getting my CDL.Just got hired with Swift will see how it goes with them.
I’ve been driving for 9 years. I just turned 30 this year. I live in central Indiana where there are lots of trucking jobs. The first two years I drove OTR and the rest local. I’m one of those guys that’s done everything in 9 years from hauling produce from California to the Midwest to working local for an LTL company to hauling gasoline locally (best paying by far). But when you factor in your health and the schedule always being up in the air and all the other headaches I’m saving money to get out of trucking for good.
If I'm giving up family life and not being part of my community. On the road living in a truck?. Plus my health taking a hit? I would want $3000 a week. Clean.
How about nobody's forcing you at gunpoint to do it. This is the lifestyle and how it works. You're basically asking for 150k a year. That's insane
Walmart is paying 90k a year now. I keep seeing yearly earnings for OTR 45k to 80k and then Walmart. The chart average was around 55k.
I'm getting my year in, & will look for local after
Why don't you just find a construction company or a farm and get your time and experience in that way? One accident out here on the roadway can cost you your license, and there's not an insurance on the planet that will touch you for CDL driving, one ticket or accident is all it takes anymore, I would sure rather be close to home if something like that happens
I've been driving for a year now and have noticed that I have softness of breath. Was in great health before I started driving. Gym every other day. Now after 12 hours all I want to do is get home and relax. Stay safe out there drivers
You too! Take care of yourself!
I'm seriously thinking about placing my stuff in storage, and going with Prime to get my cdl. I wanted to stay with them for a year, and save up that entire year so that I could relocate to Texas. My end goal is to find a local job with thousands in the savings
I'm going into the industry. Gonna grit my teeth for the first year and get that done. After that I can land something better . I know plenty of guys who can help me get on with a good company.
I see vids like these from the old timers, but as someone like me looking to get more income, what these guys considered not worth it is an absolute upgrade for people like me. I'm happy if I'm at a job making at least $400 a week, so if I were able to become a trucker someday and make what I'm seeing posted in the comments, I would be so happy I'd be doing backflips.
All I can say is that disagree with your comment I’ve drove for over 14 years and trust me the grass isn’t greener on the other side........... I don’t have the time or patience to type the message that would follow explaining why the trucking industry is not a good choice anymore. Just believe when I tell you I was a young dumb kid when I got into and now I’ve been in it for long enough it’s all I know and I’m starting to regret it . If I’d have known then what I know now about where the industry has gone I’d never have gotten into a truck
After 27yrs what else am I going to do... it's such a love hate relationship with trucking.. There have been some great times and moments over the years but the heartbreak of not being there for family kids wife etc really sucks... I struggle with otr and local and regional work...the World is getting smaller for me and it's scary as hell... been driving for a total of 39yrs and I'm 50!!! I still got a ways to go.. I'm out at 62 regardless of finances!!! I'll probably be broke and homeless!!! I'm 2 to 3 weeks away from that now... it's only gonna get worse!! Thanks 4 letting me vent!!
We've been using the electronic log for several years and I love it. No more fighting with dispatch about hours in the day. When I started driving 20 years ago loose leaf throw away logs were the norm at a few different carriers I worked for thank the good Lord those days of hell are done. My life also became much more satisfying when I learned to say NO! No arguing with dispatch just No or at least a no thanks!
Yep, I like them for just those very reasons!
No driver facing camera for me😞🎥
Thank for the inspiring words. Im just over a year into my carear, and have learned a lot about this industry. Biggest has to be how to know how to adjust a slack adjuster on a trailer a negligent shuttle driver brings you for a relay. Dont trust the equipment. Be professional.
Hey Driver. I hope you liked today's video. Now at the end of 2019, rolling into a new year, it was a good time to address this issue, that we are so often asked. Will you stick with trucking in the upcoming year? How's that driving career treating you?
I'm not getting paid like I was OTR. But I'm older now and I got a job that brings me in on the weekends. I miss talking to drivers but that's the change of technology I guess. But I found a job that it's small company and they leave me alone. I do my work and that's it -it's good for my company as well.
This year is my second year driving and I've seen no reason to quit, my job keeps evolving for the better and I work with good people. I'd like a "new" truck that hasn't been through the wringer (please santa?) But otherwise making 62cpm running between New England and OH/IN has been very profitable for me and gets me home weekends. This industry is what you make it. Maybe I'm just lucky.
ELDs have only made my life more difficult, wish I could go back to the AOBRD since you could cheat a little and be more productive and you had more room for error. Both just force you into dumb situations if you are a responsible driver but I suppose some regulation is needed for the safety of some drivers and the public.
I have decided trucking isn't a good fit for me ,right before I started trucking school
I am doing what I can to get away from operating heavy trucks. 33 years has been long enough, but it hasn't been easy to make lateral moves into safety, training, operations, etc. with any company.
I have been told I am more valuable as a driver, yet I don't see that value reflected in the wages being offered.
Just sad...
Local food delivery is good. Great pay! Till your body wears the hell out. I got out and now work for a gas company, using my CDL but driving is just apart of the job
Do the math, you can work a double shift at 7-11 and put just as much money in your pocket as working 14 hrs per day trucking and you will be home every night.
It's really no big deal. All I hear is how much it costs to run a truck and all the rules. ELD, Insurance, Cargo Insurance, General Liability, HUT, IFTA, Tax Stamp, MC#, USDOT, STATE DOT, Tickets, Tolls, Maintenance, Fuel etc etc etc... By the way I am being EXTREMELY sarcastic.
You're being truthful
Hello Dave greetings from Southwest Michigan again 32 year driver veteran here local LTL Freight glad to hear you talk about that in the beginning you and your wife have a great Christmas
You too Steve! Merry Christmas!
I make more on a mixer(concrete truck) than most over the road guys. I've heard many of their money stories. Trust me I've trained plenty of over the road guys.
Having read some of the comments I'd like to add this; This is not a family friendly job, and every single one of you knew that going in. The job is perfect for a young single man, or a man (or woman) who's not interested in getting married and having kids. If I could start all over again, I would have bought a truck, used my sisters address for my home address, and stay out there. No house payment, or bills of any kind not related to trucking. I could have retired by now, and bought a house out right, and sitting on my ass trying to catch the same fish in a pond somewhere. And it's a hell of allot easier job now then ever. You young drivers never had to keep hundreds of maps in the truck, or using the pay phones to call for directions to a receiver ... and you know how that is a crap shoot 70% of the time, or running multi log books, and everything else the shorted up my life. Naa.. truckin is easy. Like MakeCents always says; Quitters never win, and winners never quit.
Regional hourly and sleeper pay.... 4 nights out 3 night home. I like it. About 50-55 hrs a week. About 2000 biweekly.
I make $2000 a week driving for Sysco food service.
IT’S A HARDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD JOB. The pay is great, you’re Home everyday, IF you don’t mind unloading 900-1200 single boxes by hand and gotta separate the WHOLE ENTIRE TRAILER BY YOUR SELF having 8-12 stops a day, going down basements with a hand truck delivering HEAVY meats you’re gonna alright 🙂. Oh use good lifting technique cause you can damage your back. 😬
I dumped that or crap and I liked my company. I was with them for about 3 yrs.
I haul logs now and am home for dinner every day and off on weekends unless I want to work.
The money you spend otr aint worth it, especially if you like to eat good.
I’ve leaned a lot from your videos sir , Share more stories from back in days , thank you
Yup, trucking is getting worse every year. We're stacking our cash to buy another business and get out.
A wise move.
Always good info man! Thank you ! I’m about to hit my 2 year of OTR and I’ve made 76k for 2019. Is that good for a new guy? I think it is.
I think it is too! Congratulations!
If you want to make money at least 60k/yr and get home nightly....try vending or foodservice. It's hard work but it pays good money
It all depends on who you work for.I'm gone four day's a week sleeper team, and I have weekend's off. We average about 5250 miles on our weekly run same schedule. Pay average is 2750 a week, plus 175 perdium included. We each drive 4, 11hr shifts. 44hrs driving for close to 3grand,not a bad gig.
This guy is telling the truth on everything. Before trucking I weigh a 139 pounds now I wait a 198 pounds at 5ft8in. I can be bad for your health when you are not taking care for yourself.
I’ve been trucking for a 1 1/2 now with a mega carrier, won’t say which one. I’m 32 years old, took a long time to get my shit together and find a career to make something of my life, im a recovering addict and if only I knew what I was getting myself into by going into trucking. I feel like almost all my life is either in the truck cockpit or sleeper. Lonely all the time, four wheelers drive me nuts when I used to be the most peaceful person behind of a wheel. I’ve done most my driving in north east and it’s terrible. Away from friends, family and my girl and the way I eat is taking a toll on me. I really don’t know what else to do, I wish trucking was good like it used to be from the research I’ve done. Not sure why I comment I never ever do, guess I wanted to get it off my chest. Ur videos are very informative for me, ur the real deal, it has helped. Right now I’m just paying my dues until I got enough experience to do something local and get with the right company. If that don’t work I’m out, it’s not worth it or me returning to my old ways. Anyway I’m done rambling, god bless
Frank Lassalle Meditate it helps a lot
Hey Frank. If you're doing your trucking in the north east you're a better man than I am. Trucking through there would drive a sane man to drink. In fact that whole eastern seaboard depresses me. Have you ever thought about moving west, like Nebraska or Wyoming? It's all about quality of life, not working to death just to survive. Take care of yourself. Take some time off at Xmas and use it to unwind, relax and re-evaluate. I want 2020 to be a better year for you. Thanks for watching and writing in! Dave
That’s still more than I make as a massage therapist working 5 days a week. I’m lucky to make 1200 every two weeks........
I'll bet as a massage therapist you don't put in a solid 70 to 90 work hours a week or work with the dangers and liabilities of a truck driver.
I drove for a little over 8 years regional and otr. The pay was decent enough I quit because I was tired if being treated like a second class citizen everywhere I went. Dispatchers, shipping and receiving clerks, DOT and state boys, even truck stop employees. You are treated like shit pretty much everywhere. It wears you down. Now I'm a shipping and receiving clerks and go out of my way to give every driver the VIP treatment.
Yes it is worth it.....that said, only if you work for a union company, and with a contract.......Driving for cents per mile is a suckers game!!!!
Exactly!
I like the 30 min break. When I start driving I'm going to make it a 1 hour nap.
Great idea!
& you lose 30 mins of driving/on duty time.
Great video really helps push me towards my goal of getting a cdl
There is a reason they stick new guys in OTR jobs; they can pay them cheap.
In three days I'm quitting Stevens Transport, and taking a job hauling milk where I'm off two days a week and home every night and paid hourly.
The minimum a OTR driver should make is 55k, yet tons of guys work their ass of for 35-40k.
Stevens... I rest my case.
Good move!
'oh by the way to reiterate trucking companies love sheeple over people and other trades do as well and it is pre programmed into us when we all start kindergarten particiculy in the public school system employers do discriminate on hireing when they see a applicant that attended private schools or had home schooling so does the military you are not moldable
george wilson so true!
Glad Im out of trucking now
What are you doing now?
I have a class b. I made 96g +- this year and I was home every night. We don’t have eld because somehow they got an exemption but they will dead head a truck at 13.5.i work 52 hours per week.
Everything that you said is true
I’m a CDL holder but not on the road yet. My husband is OTR though. When my last child is 17, we’ll team drive. I liked being on the road with him. And we’ll be able to just save money🤷🏽♀️😊
All gravy then huh!!! Just stay safe !!
The market for trucks is saturated. That makes the carriers have to cut costs to complete. It’s a race to the bottom. This is more so in dry van.
The way to make money is to diversify. Drivers with special qualifications set them apart. The money is in hazmat, heavy haul, and flatbed.
So spot on in your analysis. I did a little Ag trucking that didn’t even require a CDL this past summer. It was fun. There’s a lot of waiting for weather though no work no pay if the fields are too wet. I think I will do some more possibly this next summer.
After driving for over 45 years I finally have had enough. Sold my truck and retired .Forced to drive unreliable equipment (emissions shit) and soaring expenses outragous cost for equipment and over legislation . Dave I have seen guys that tried to slow down and take care only to be sat at home and starved. Being a company driver is the only way to survive today. Keep up the good work.
I’m just getting into the industry, everyone keeps telling me not to because the pay sucks... well I’m in the towing industry and make less then 3k a month to almost get run over on a daily basis so if I can pull in $1000 a week I’d be happy for awhile
Should be able to do that. And better hours than towing!
I was in the over the road trucking since 1989. I have plenty of skills that allow me to do work away from trucking. The summer of 2019 marked my exit from an industry that I thought was going to retire me. I’m now running a maintenance company. And home every night. Making the same $$$ in 25 hours a week as I made before.
If you think the pay is not great join the army lol i was making 900 every 2 weeks. 1800 a month with 4 years experience
They harass us too much now.
First; they inspect stationary trucks a rest area. I am like so what my light doesn’t work I am not driving, I have a light bulb I’ll change in the morning when I do pre trip inspection.
Second, they telling us we can’t take certain routes we have to take the route that has the weight.
Love this guy everything he says is on point 👌🏽
I agree 100%. I’m a Union 23 year ‘local’ ready mix concrete driver. Excellent pay and benefits and best of all - home every night. No lack of work for foreseeable future here in Phoenix. C’mon down boys!
I've been lucky enough in my career so far that I've not had to go OTR. I've always been paid a daily rate or hourly. My first job was a weekly rate of $650 as a beer distributor. Apparently I picked the wrong company to haul beer for because every stop had to be worked into backstock. The other local distributor had merchandisers work the product at grocery stores. Our merchandisers only had to do displays and fill the shelves at certain stores daily.
I'm currently hauling a vacuum tanker, an end dump trailer and a winch truck in the oilfield. I make $19 an hour with OT after 40. Only downside is no benefits. It's a mom an pop company with 5 trucks but only 2 drivers
I started trucking in 2001 and I drove OTR. Thru the years I never found a trucking company worth a crap til I Started hauling tanker hazmat. I worked for Heniff and I took home $1500-1800 a week. I decided to stay out there and save. 6 years past working for the same company. I managed to save 110k in the bank.
I put that money into flight training and got all my ratings and went to an airline. This was a 3 year process from training to and airline. Best decision I made.
Day 1 of my initial hire I was flown out to Houston for training. I stayed in a Marriott for the whole time of my orientation and training. After all my training and certification, I was a first officer.
After a year of working for the same airline I became a line holder kinda like dedicated in trucking. Every time I report to work I commute to Houston from Florida. Every overnight I have I stay in a nice hotel and we are treated very well by the public.
Moral of the story is, if you don’t like a situation there’s always a choice to change it. Some trucking companies are better than others. Some are worse. Anytime you go into a job that’s easy to get into, it’s most often not worth having. Trucking wasn’t all bad because I got to see the country but it’s only great for a season.
How many OTR drivers make enough today to save for their next significant endeavor?
I got my cdl in Dec 2019 - I just have a year experience , and I am looking for different experiences , is it difficult for a driver like me to get hire from a company like Heniff I live in Oklahoma and been doing OTR dry van , .50 cpm , I've been told that's very low rate