The Secret In Their Eyes - A Modern Revenge Masterpiece
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This week's video essay looks at The Secret in their Eyes, and how it deconstructs the revenge genre.
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I found the twist at the end, that Liliana’s husband didn’t just murder her murderer (which would’ve been justified under an eye for an eye) but instead, he imparted the justice that had been denied by the system and the corruption. He gave him life in prison, the correct sentence he should’ve gotten instead of sadistic cruelty for vengeance. Off course that comes at his own personal price. He tries to act morally in an immoral and imperfect world. That brought me to tears.
He didnt give him life in prison... he gave him a life of nothing which is simply torture.
@@lukasmedici31415 That dude was a rapist, in Argentinian jails those guys are tortured by other inmates at every opportunity until they commit suicide unless they are kept isolated but in those years that last part was uncommon.
@@Wen6543 Could be. But I don`t think thats the message the movie was going for.
@@lukasmedici31415 I don´t think this movie tries to deliver a specific message, is so complex and well made that it has many messages in different layers and all can be interpreted in different ways according to each viewer.
@@Wen6543 ofc thats true. For me though it looks like the main character is completely disgusted by the imprisonment. I don't think he would feel the same for a normal prison sentence.
As a person from Argentina, i love watching people who analize films taking a look at what our country has offered to cinema, specially in such detail as you have. The video was great and i thank you for making it. Keep it up
Thank you! There are some great Argentinian movies and I'm glad I had the opportunity to discuss!
9 Reinas is another great movie, also with Ricardo Darin Staring
This is my favorite movie of all time and I make a point of seeing it at least once a year. I am African.
It’s my fav movie and I am African. Also love Wild Tales
Finally saw this movie after seeing your upload. My brother told me it was overrated, so I kinda left it aside. But, man, this was incredible. The acting, the cinematography, the music, the screenplay and its multiple themes...
The last minutes of the movie were just perfect. I specially like that last shot of Morales when Esposito leaves: he's in the background, out of focus, hands on his head, finally realizing what he has become after been discovered by the latter and being ashamed of it. Then he wraps his arms around the prison bars as if he too was a prisoner of his own revenge, serving a life sentence. I think that's what pushed Esposito further: he was afraid of becoming someone like that, a person trapped in his own past.
God, I love this movie!
you´d enjoy the book it was based on as well. (originally it´s called "The question in their eyes) www.goodreads.com/book/show/40671606-the-secret-in-their-eyes
Thank God you did not listen to your brother
TF are you talking about? the acting is serviceable, nothing special. Cinematography was mediocre, music okey-ish. The strongest point in this film was the narrative (because it was base on a novel, which inherently will give your script a lot of story to grind) and even that element had it's point of dumbing down their character for the sake of the plot, "multiple themes" oh you mean morality and justice? i can count those with half my hand, you could count "love" as another theme if you want but that's far fetch. The only reason this film excelled is because europeans didn't felt like making a film that year, and the argentinians bandwaggon of "everything we do is the best" of course, being a farce. Not a terrible movie, but it doesn't excell.
No leo comentarios para que los giles patrioteros no me lleguen ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@@IlSH2 Eres un imbecil. Traduccion: You're an idiot
Where did you watch it? I have not found it :/
One thing you missed is that the name of Espósito means that he is a son or grandson of an abandone person, bacause there was a house for abandone kids called House of Exposite Kid o Casa de Niños Espósitos, in Argentina in the earlies 1900. So, all the kids raised in that House have the name Espósito. That´s why the officer tell hin "She is a Hasting, but you are Espósito, you are nothing", is because his origin.
Thanks for the insight Gimena.
Gracias gimena todos los dias se aprende algo nuevo, incluso de mi propio pais, y muy bueno tu ingles, saludos
It means "orphan".
It's an Italian surname. The origin is the Italian word given to the orphans, "Esposti" exposed, or "Esposto" that's the reason they were called the Esposito children. Is a Napolitan surname, an its origin is the "Ruota degli Esposti". Some kind of cylindric device that could be found at the entrance of churches, where the poor people could abandon their children anonymously with the hopes of them having a better life in hands of the Church. Obviously the surname arrived to Argentina due to the immigration, and being a South Italian surname it gives us a hint about the humble origins of the character.
Es un apellido italiano, el origen es la palabra italiana que se le daba a los huérfanos, "Esposti" expuestos, o "Esposto" de alli que se los llamara niños espositos. Es un apellido de origen Napolitano, que viene de lo que se llamaba Ruota degli Esposti, una especie de buzón giratorio que se colocaba a la entrada de iglesias y conventos, allí los pobres podían abandonar a sus recién nacidos anónimamente, esperando que en manos de la Iglesia tuvieran una mejor oportunidad en la vida. Obviamente el apellido llega a Argentina por ser el país al que históricamente emigraban los italianos, y claro esta que Esposito al ser un apellido meridional da cuenta del origen pobre del personaje.
Thank you So much! I'm Russian and to me this movie is one of the most powerful films in cinema history. I was mad to hear they remade it in Hollywood and in a bad way (((( Anyway - that movie is allready forgotten and THIS ONE will stay forever.Still my wish is that more people see it.
As an Argentinian, knowing that someone so far from us has such nice thing to say about this movie warms my heart. Thank you; I mean it.
the American remake was an atrocity, this film is a masterpiece
Apart from being a great movie, I like the tribute the director gave to queen of detective novels, Agatha Christie by naming the main female character Hastings.
Captain Hastings was Hercule Poirot's sidekick in many Christie novels, and he emigrated to Argentina. Irene might as well be his granddaughter. :)
This movie is one of the best movies I have ever seen!!!! Mindblowing good!!! I hope Hollywood stays away from this masterpiece....
They didnt, there is a remake with Julia Roberts, it's kindda shitty tho
They did not. I just saw it. Good actors? Yes, but the spirit is completely lost.
One of the best movies you ever saw? what other movies did you watch? the minions? marvel movies? lmao don't make me laugh. This movie is average at best. If the year it came out, europeans would, as we say in my country, work at half machine capacity, this movie would have had flew under the radar. Mediocre and overhype by the argentinian patriotism of "everything we do is the best" which is a lie.
No leo replies así los giles patrioteros no me llegan, despues de haberles dicho la posta ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@@IlSH2 Lol you're a fucking loser!
@@IlSH2 solamente un argetino puede odiar esta obra maestra, y esto lo digo yo que soy paraguayo, como me gustaria que mi pais tenga el nivel de cine que tiene Argentina, el mejor de la region facilmente.
Ya reza el dicho "ningun profeta es bienvenido en su tierra"
I am Chilean. Here we absolutely LOVE this film, because is great but also because we also had a bloody dictatorship, so we definitely can relate to the unfaireness of the whole thing...Anyway, Juan José Campanella is one of my favourite Latinamerican filmakers, and I thank you for your effort, rewieving a foreing film. BTW...if you want to watch a really good Chilean film, please watch MACHUCA. A take on class tension, childhood and family drama, really well made with great acting.
Loved the movie. It open the wounds or my inability to learn another language to be able to properly appreciate it.
The actors has instant chemistry, which when I searched for, may contribute to them working on some other good works.
'Morales' was one of the few things I missed as I was immersed in the eyes. It really focuses on them in a good way and emphasizes the power of photography too.
Looking forward to watch some good movie from this part of the world soon.
Namaste.
you will be mindblown about some great details in the film that can not be translate
I recomend you to watch the argentine movie "Nueve Reinas" (wich has been also remaked in USA). Another masterpiece from this part of the world...
I'm from Argentina, it was a nice surprise and a true plesure to see you talking about argentinian cinema :)
I recommend El Aura, by the late Fabián Bielinsky, director of Nueve Reinas, also starring Ricardo Darín, keep up the good work man, love your videos!
Thank you! It was my pleasure, one of my favorite movies ever!
Excellent video. I didn't have the impression that what kept Benjamin away from Irene was his obsession with the case, which he was indeed. Instead, I thought it had more to do with how they belonged to two different worlds. Because of his last name, Benjamin most likely grew up poor and as an orphan, and knew very well that someone like Irene would never ever set her eyes on him. And yet she did. She always waited for the moment in which Benja would say something, but he never did. And finally when it seemed like the moment came and she asked him for his 'objections' to her marriage Sandoval was killed, so this conversation never happened.
I just finished watching it tonight and it was honestly incredible. Everything about the film was just about flawless but the themes of obsession, love, passion, trauma, etc never felt lost on me. It felt like the major core of the movie. Kind of like The Conversation where that film, to me, was one of isolation and obsession leading to the loss of innocence and happiness. I'd honestly love to see you do a video on the film.
I love this movie! One of the greatest of all time for me. I have always been fascinated with Latin America and particularly Argentina. Ricardo Darin is a fabulous actor! His son is good also. The best scene for me is between Esposito and Pablo, when Pablo explains that a guy can change anything except his passion. “Una pasión es una pasión”.
One of the greatest movies of all time...
What a beautiful analisys. I'm from Argentina, saw it on theaters when it was relased and stuck with me ever since. I won't say its my favourite movie (that title goes to The Shawshank Redemption) but sure is up there in the top 10, along with Nueve Reinas (Nine Queens), another masterpiece from Argentinian cinema.
Thank you, Jack! El Secreto de Sus Ojos is one of my favourite movie of 2009 !
It's definitely up there for me too, 2009 was a great year with Fantastic Mr. Fox and A Serious Man
Thank you for your thorough review, I'm from Argentina and the dictatorship period was one of the bloodiest in my people history. This film reflects the horror and helplessness that the people felt at the time, it's a gritty story with a message of hope in the end.
This film is set during the last Peronist government in the seventies, and it depicts the crimes and corruption of the Triple A, a government criminal organisation created by Pero himself and continued by Lopez Rega, his assistant.
La película critica el regimen peronista, te aviso por si no sabías. Fueron ellos los que liberaban presos, de hecho en la película el violador (Isidoro Gomez) aparece al lado de Isabel Perón (en la escena de la televisión) quie era la presidente en ese entonces. Se ve que mucha atención a la película no has prestado. Esa es una de las razones de por qué es una excelente película, criticó el peronismo.
He didn't lose Irene, because he prioritised his work. He had no self confidence.
OMG I loved this movie Ricardo Darín is just amazing. I saw the remake last night and oh god! Hollywood just burns me up when they remake, reboot or reimagine amazing films.
Great video. I’m currently watching the original film and it’s looking really good.
Thanks for this! Watched this movie several times now, it's absolutely fantastic and it contains many stories and layers along with the main story. I'd say this is a "must watch" movie. The US remake: let's not talk about it... Yes: watch the Argentinian original, it's both heartbreaking yet life-affirming. Masterpiece! Thanks for your great and insight which goes both wide (greater context) and deep (individual characters). Awesome as always!
It really is something spectacular! So much discussion to be had and so many conversations it starts!
The music .. The actors .. Everything is perfect
Good vid as always. Your 2018 Oscar nominated films ended up being rather accurate, and was worth the second watch. Please follow it up.
I'm sure I will be doing another one next year!
Mate. I watched this for the second time last night in order to discuss with my friend. And a video essay the very next day? Damn. That's some Baader Meinhof shit right there.
This movie sat in my DVD collection for years. A "covid bonus" is finding films in my library that I put off, or wasn't in the mood, or "I just want to see a movie I already know" mood.
Tonight, I picked the first two movies on my shelf that I had never seen. The first was "Rango". Solid movie...fun, really cool movie.
The second was "The Secret In Their Eyes". 3/4 of the movie is just a great execution of movie-making, acting, screenwriting....and the denouement "oh no...whew! oh no ! whew! oh no!".
This film will have to sink in for a little bit. I just re-watched "Gone Girl" yesterday, and I had forgotten most of the movie from my first viewing. I hope I get that same sense the next time I watch this film. Superior film.
Top 3 of the best argentinian movies ever. The other are '9 queens' and 'el aura'
I really like La historia oficial as well!
Wild things, bro
I meant wild tales
daniel nyaga I fucking love Wild Tales! One of my favorites
Another good Argentinian movie worth watching is "Hombre mirando al sudeste" (extremely similar to K-pax) or any movie from Leonardo Favio. "Gatica el mono" and "Nazareno Cruz y el lobo" are both great movies.
"Paco "(2010) is another Argentinian movie I'd recommend. Social and personal struggles against drugs. It lost the opportunity to run for the Oscar to "Carancho", another movie part of Darin's Cinematic Multiverse
Should won best picture at that time, not just foreign languange. TSITE movie had everything and i mean everything. if they made in 2020 it will be huge as Parasite i believe. Classic Masterpiece..
Thanks a lot for bringing up this underrated masterpiece, Jack ! :-)
As always, great work ! :-)
Thank you!
Blue Ruin is one of the best revenge films of the past 50 years.
just one point. the facts in the 70's were´nt during the proceso de reorganización nacional, but during the democratical goverment of isabel martínez de perón. greetings.
I have to correct something: the period of the movie is before the dictatorship of 1976-1983.
Sandoval was killed by the Argentinian Anti-communist Alliance or Triple A, which was a parapolicial group dedicated to kill not only "subversives" and leftist but also anyone who could present an obstacle.
In one of the scenes, you can see Gómez in the TV at the side of Isabel of Perón (Perón 's second wife), hinting that he was working as a hitman.
Espósito was targeted by his rival judgeman/lawyer cause he had Gómez working for him, and sent the Triple A against him thinking that he murdered Gómez (who was actually kidnapped by Morales).
Totally agreed man.
I saw it some years ago and I was strucked by the scale of emotions this film puts us in: drama, love, revenge, humor, thriller and police story, historical. It's hitting so many strings like a symphonic concert, that's above great. One of the best screenplay in decades long. I'm glad you put this film into some attention it deserves.
Note that spanish cinema is very good. Like drama and fantasy/horror. They excell in many things. Spain is home for great pictural artists in the past, so there's a connection here.
This is an Argentinian movie not a spanish one though
spanish????????
I love your videos man keep it up. I think a video about Chinatown would be interesting sometime
A great great movie. Even the snippets of it shown here are moving to see again.
Watched the movie years ago, your review made me understand it on a deeper level
The best foreign language film i've ever seen, which every film fan needs to see, forget the Hollywood remake!
agreed, a masterpiece indeed!
Thank you for making this kind of videos dude
Thank you for watching!
Great! I'm from Argentina, I'm your fan, I love this movie ... What else can I ask for?
Analyze more Argentinian movies
Great film. The original anyway. Good analysis
Would you happen to have a list of the movies you clipped into your video? Also, I see a lot of the comments for this video are lauding Argentinian movies. I couple of years ago I happened to stumble across Wild Tales (2014) also starring Ricardo Darin. After seeing your video and anxious to see this movie, I'm thoroughly convinced Argentinian cinema is a force to be reckoned with.
Juan José Campanella sent me here :) Great video!
Welcome aboard and thank you! I'm glad you enjoyed!
El tipo puede cambiar de todo. De cara, de casa, de familia, de novia, de religion, de dios. Pero hay una cosa que no puede cambiar, no puede cambiar de pasion.
This is such a great channel. I'm glad that I found it.
Just subscribed :D
Thank you! Welcome to the team!
It's so beautifull that hurts very deep inside.
a small correction the last name of liliana, the murdered girl is not calado, her full name is liliana colotto
I love ur video essay , will u please do one for Haneke's film I think u can get a lot out of his films
I'm sure Haneke will be covered eventually!
I’ve seen the original about five times, so I know it really well - I have it on DVD; I enjoyed it so much the first time I saw it late night on BBC, I went out and bought it the next day. I’ve just watched the US remake, which I enjoyed more than I expected to but I spent most of the film just tracking all the changes they’d made to the original. Comparing the two is an interesting exercise and although the original is clearly the superior film and more suspenseful story, the performances of Chiwetel Ejiofor and Julia Roberts stand up well, and Nicole Kidman is a good choice for the Menendez role. Alfred Molina’s British accent needed to be explained, though, if he wasn’t going to bother Americanising it.
The shift from 1970s military junta era Argentina to post-9/11 America didn’t quite work, though. In the original, you got a much clearer idea that the investigators were risking their lives - not just their careers - by daring to look under rocks that the higher ups had told them to ignore. And for reasons explained in this video, as a group they pay a heavier price.
I’d give the original 5/5 and the remake 3/5 - still worth watching the remake but I’m glad I saw and had the chance to fully appreciate the excellent original first. We’ve just had the carpets replaced so all my DVDs (roughly 1200 of them) are in boxes at the moment but I will seek the original out and watch it again this week.
I remember when I first came across this film, I was completely stunned it had such an impact on me and then I started binging everything I could find with Guillermo Francella and Ricardo Darin and found so many more great movies. It's been awhile since I've watched anything from Argentina... anything within the last few years I should check out?
Wild Tales
@@dissonantpulse seen it, loved it... i mean within the last 2-3 years
Easily on my top 5 favorite movies of all time
Now I do really want you to talk about Park Chan Wook's vengeance trilogy.
Provider of justice for its original producers
It's rather annoying when you're watching a review for one film which gives spoilers of other films. Something to work on.
I LOVE ❤ THIS MOVIES 👍
You and me both!
masterpiece, thats all, bravo!
Excelent review. Just a correction: the story of the movie is set during the peronism regimen (Isabel Perón), not Videlas dictatorship. The movie criticizes crimes commited by Peronism, so Benjamin stands against corruption.
I LOVE this movie
That makes two of us!
Gracias!
I´m from Argentina and loved the video.
Thanks Mariano!
One of my best favorite movies haven't watch the american version yet but who knows maybe in the future
Loved this analysis!
Great movie!
Great video
I had such a huge crush on Ricardo Darin in my teens, please make a video about lonliness in this film. : )
Nicely done.
I love you for this
I’ve only seen the English remake, which is no good... but that stadium sequence tho
Mr. ShyRyHud watch this movie, its sooo good
Pablo Turdo - Absolutely! The Argentinian original is absolutely fantastic, the US remake got it all wrong.
The stadium sequence in the original is pretty great too!
I've been trying to show my friends this movie as I'm from Argentina but I can't find it with English subtitles here in Australia. Any help?
Tell him atleast talk to me
I like this movie also I like I saw the devil Korean movie. It's also different revenge movie
For a second I thought you were gonna talk about the movie with Julia Roberts that came out in 2015.
I have much better taste than that!
Thank goodness!! I too shuddered for a moment when I though you might be looking at the remake (i.e., monstrosity).
such a savage reply :D
Oh hell yeah
Exelent film.
i looked up twilight zone masterpiece and got this lol
where can i watch this movie with english subtitles?
I’m Argentinian and I love this video.
Make more other country films analysis also some documentaries
What is the name of the movie after Kill Bill (0.14) ?
@tonycsilva100 that scene is from Oldboy (2003), confirmed in the end credits of this video.
Can you please review Martyrs 2008...I saw the movie 10 years late and it blew my mind... i honestly want to know your thoughts... please watch it
Maybe Martyrs is between the best horror movies in history.
Could you give your thoughts on Silence (2017) by Martin Scorsese?
Step ahead of you!
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This movie seems like almost the same plot as Prisoners. The movie also deals with similar themes. I wonder if Deni recontextualizes this story into Prisoners.
You got it backwards. Prisoners seems like almost the same plot as this movie.
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It’s overrated
No the movie itself is bad, we got Darin acting of Darin and Franchella acting of Franchella.
The only real thing here is "Los simuladores" the only original masterpiece south america has.
Los simuladores is the worst garbage piece of media argentina has ever produced. Keep in mind i'm argentinian.