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A place for Christian Apologetics, Theology, Culture, and Politics from an orthodox Christian perspective.
A place for Christian Apologetics, Theology, Culture, and Politics from an orthodox Christian perspective.
Asking A.I. Hard Questions About the Episcopal Church
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Is America an Anglican Nation?
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Young Anglican is just a hobby for a theology nerd. I do all of this in my spare time and don't have any relevant degrees in theology or philosophy, but hope that nonetheless my thoughts and knowledge still have a kind of value. If you want to support the channel, you can subscribe to my locals, and get early access to some of my videos: younganglican.locals.com
An American Argument for Episcopal Ordination - The Anglican Renaissance Podcast
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Credit to @redeemedzoomer6053 for the new intro music! Tell me what you think of it in the comments. Young Anglican is just a hobby for a theology nerd. I do all of this in my spare time and don't have any relevant degrees in theology or philosophy, but hope that nonetheless my thoughts and knowledge still have a kind of value. If you want to support the channel, you can subscribe to my locals,...
My Thoughts on ACNA Provincial Assembly 2024
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What is My Favorite Book of Common Prayer?
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What is My Favorite Book of Common Prayer?
The Catholic Religion - The Anglican Renaissance Podcast
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Where Are Your Converts? Where Are Your Children? Where Are Your Priests?
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The ACNA and the Diocese of Christ Our Hope w/ Bishop Alan Hawkins
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Why Not Universalism? Reviewing Gavin Ortlund + Matthew Adelstein Discussion
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Women's Ordination in the ACNA: A Critical Appeal
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Women's Ordination in the ACNA: A Critical Appeal
ACNA might be the new TEC if they don’t put a stop on women ordination
Please start your own Episcopalian/Anglican denomination spread the word please!
The (39) Articles of Religion are not binding on Anglicans, clerical and lay. We are supposed to believe the three historic creeds but they are shared with most of orthodox Christendom. So beyond them we are free to believe whatever we want about everything else.
I do want to say that I am encouraged to find a discussion among ACNA and Episcopal church priests who are both orthodox. Ever since the 1980s when I attended an Episcopal Church, I have met very few orthodox Episcopal priests. I even have some friends who were more or less orthodox, but I have watched as they have become more and more progressive. When an institution as a whole is very progressive, it is very hard to stay faithful.
What about small towns and southern communities? They're typically old poor people. Wouldn't they be conservative? Homosexuality and female ordination aren't seen as acceptable in those places. Liberals are most likely to be in big cities. Not always, though.
@@legacyandlegend you make a good point. I was encouraged to find that my experience was not wide enough and that there are still faithful priests in the Episcopal Church.
@marilynmelzian7370 I believe there are. I'm currently LCMS lutheran. I'm moving next year to a small mountain community. There's no ACNA or lutheran church in that area. There is an episcopal church though. I don't see that particular episcopal church being liberal. If they are, then I'll defeat them with scripture. I've read the bible cover to cover 7 times in 6 different translations. I know what God's word says. No bishop or priest can contradict that. If they do, I'm not going to listen to them. What are they going to do? Throw me out? If they do, then that's just more sin and abomination on their part. I'm not afraid to stand up for God's word.
I am a member of the ACNA. I understand the arguments for church unity, and would agree that there are some divisions in the church that have happened because of issues that are not heretical on either side. My question is, is an apostate church even part of the church? Once you have denied the core doctrines of the church and sound moral practices, do you have any authority at all? the argument seems to be that it is the local bishop that counts, but then why be part of a larger institutional structure at all?
At the end of the day, the bishop only has authority as long as he doesn't contradict or deny scripture. Accepting lgbtq and female ordination make the Bishop's authority null and void. At that point, he's literally just there to keep apostolic succession going so we can receive valid sacraments. Then again, individual churches may not agree with the bishop and only stay in TEC to avoid a lawsuit for leaving.
Has or has not the Episcopal Church, as a denomination, abandoned traditional biblical morality in regard to homosexual conduct? If a member of the Episcopal Church, is not one participating in the support of the position that the Episcopal Church, as a denomination, taken?🤔
As a denomination, they have. Luckily, the bishop can't override scripture. You don't have to listen to him at that point. If your church gets kicked out of TEC for this, so be it. No one can override scripture. We're prima scriptura, not anti scriptura...
@@legacyandlegend Yes, Article VI of the 39 Articles of Religion is generally respected by Anglicans worldwide. However, I think a word of caution. Is the determination whether something is substantiated by scripture left to an individual or to a group of people within a denomination? Consensus? I understand more Anglicans worldwide, i.e. associated in GAFCON and the GSFA, view TEC and the Church of England as having abandoned scripture in official positions taken on homosexual conduct. It is inescapable that ultimately each individual is left with the decision whether to agree. I do not view the ACNA as having been "kicked out" of TEC, but as the continuation of Anglicans living in accordance with traditional biblical morality versus those who have abandoned it.🤔
@royquick-s5n True. The ACNA left due to apostasy on the part of TEC. that's fine. If a particular episcopal church congregation is conservative and gets kicked out for not agreeing with the bishops and priests, then they can always go to the ACNA or one or the continuing anglican churches. I think those episcopal churches stay only to avoid a lawsuit or risk losing their property.
@@legacyandlegend I understand, but what gets me is that by staying they are participants by association in the apostasy. There is an ACNA congregation near to me which was once TEC. It walked away from the property, meeting afterward in a school auditorium, then in a Methodist church, before buying a church building no longer in use. This church property thing can go only so far. It reminds me of the man in Mk 10.17-22. That several dioceses have been able to pull out with property intact is somewhat amazing (as well as great cost). 🤔
@royquick-s5n You got me there. At that point, I don't know. Maybe they think it's better to follow James 5:19-20 and try to bring them back then just leave them in their sins. Maybe they're too poor to get the funding for a new church. There's a lot of reasons they might do it.
Cool, I guess you found the guys.
Is one’s religion supposed to be a hobby, like stamp collecting or photography, or a way of life?
Based! When can we expect more Reconquista content???
Except there was actually a council in the book of acts that did decide this thing for the entire entirety of the church. Where as there wasn’t a set in uniform canon until again the third century
All Protestant sects are
I am the Catholic grandson of Rev. Paul L.C. Hallett, pastor of St. Albans Episcopal Church in Edina, MN. This whatever it was bummed me out. Brothers - ask the bigger questions - which I know you have - but fellas - maybe it’s time to come home. My dad (Rev. Paul’s son) did so when I was a little boy (we’d done Mass and services before then) and it made a huge difference. The fires of hell will indeed not prevail, but you’re smart enough to know that this doesn’t apply to Henry. If we are putting the past behind us then consider the extent to which England’s predatory war on the Irish and the North American English-speaking world’s long history of anti-Catholic bigotry might be blinding you. Forgive me for any charity I have lacked, and please pray for me and for an increase in charity in me. I will pray for both of you and for the fruitfulness of both of your ministries. Ps: You both definitely know Mary is the Immaculate Conception perpetually virgin and sinless Queen of Heaven. Praise God!
Ireland was first invaded by an English king under the blessing of an English Pope. When England was Roman, it was the most Romanist Romans to have ever Romaned. The Papacy blessed the Kingdom of England, including its conquests and expeditions to Ireland even when it was technically a papal fief under John. It only became a problem when England broke from Rome.
I appreciate the clear place of charity that your comment seems to be coming from, the Lord knows that Protestant-Catholic dialogue could always use more of it. However, I would like to respond with a gentle suggestion. I, merely speaking for myself, but I imagine many other Protestants, am strongly put off by the “Come Home” rhetoric that seems to have gained much popularity as of late. Once again not to suggest that it is intended poorly, but you must understand that there is a subtle condescending tone to it, almost an implication that we are merely rebellious adolescents that need to just give up their foolish stint away from “the church”. In reality, this is not the case at all, and I am sure that a great deal, even likely the majority of Protestants would love nothing more than to reunite with Rome. The problem is that to do so at this point in time would be a severe violation of conscience, and would require to things that we believe to be strictly false. As Luther said “Here I stand, *I can do no other*”.
I'm a Catholic with absolutely no interest in either side. However, I am intensely interested in hearing these perspectives. Around the 1:29:00 mark, I am very confused how one could say there are dioceses with no bishop, affirm that many (most?) churches have invalid sacraments, and still want to remain within that communion? All of this talk of "politics" in unacceptable when sacraments deal with the souls of the faithful. I really do think you all would find it would be a lot easier to find what you are seeking within the Ordinariate. I know personally I just couldn't live with such a reality of invalid sacraments. I appreciate this debate, thanks for posting it. I will come back to it much.
Good, and very fair question. As I understand much of your question is made difficult to definitively answer due to the very nature of the Anglican Church. It seems to me that Fr.Matthew holds some relatively Anglo-Catholic views, which would lead him to a different posture on this subject than a reformed Anglican for example. As the articles are now non-binding, questions such as “who can properly administer the Eucharist” and other ecclesiastical matters are more or less up in the air. You know the adage, ask 2 Anglicans a question on theology and you’ll get 3 answers. And I appreciate your concern for Anglicans in suggestion of the Ordinariate, but I’m afraid that the majority of Anglicans, despite what the internet may indicate, are firmly Protestant.
Both Father Matthew and Father Kelly seemed opposed to women bishops, which the Episcopal Church has, and of which GAFCON has two or three, I understand. The Episcopal Church has women deacons and priests also. The ACNA has women deacons and priests but no women bishops. There is a fuss in the ACNA over women priests. Recently the Standing Committed of the ACNA Diocese of Forth Worth released a statement alluding to the invalidity of communion services celebrated by women priests.🤔
For an Anglican to enter an Ordinariate, an Anglican has to submit to his or her confirmation as having been invalid and a clergyman has to submit to his ordination as having been invalid. And what do the Anglicans do with the traditional biblical doctrine that they have learned and to the accuracies of Church history? Truth is not an issue?🤔
If the good Shepherds abandon the good members of the flock and leave them to the wolves because of the wolves within the Shepherds and the flock then who is there to protect the good members of the flock? Is it not the priests and the bishops that are to sacrifice themselves for the sake of the flock even to their own destruction as the prophets of old did, never breaking off to start a new country or new order but rather contending with the one that be to the bitter destructive ends. Just a thought. Thank you. May our Lord God save the Episcopal Church.
By remaining a member of an organization and contributing to its support, is not one supporting for what it stands? If good shepherds abandon a flock, may be the flock, too, should disassociate, following the example of the good shepherds.
@@royquick-s5n you mean when the christian Jews abandoned the temple and the non Christian Jews? Oh wait they didn't abandon them either. They merely left when God himself told them to leave. Notice how only after a thousand years of martyrdom contending for the church when the schism happened and abadonment became the norm because you are much more concerned with the church of this world than with the Holy Church of Christ: a single body, not splintered. Humans are gonna do what their pride tells them is right. As for me I will stay, I will fight, I will die for the church (well until they excommunicate me...haha...even then I will not condemn them but I will still contend for the faith with them). God save the church.
Before watching this I just want to say sometimes it gets disheartening being conservative in TEC. I was the only youth member at our convention who actually believed in God, let alone cared. It's sad to see all the old dying members who are still faithful look at me like the second coming because they haven't seen a young person interested in church for so long. It's horrible to think what's going to happen to my church, the second oldest continuously operating in Utah, when I'm gone cause everybody else is 60 years or older. The only time I feel genuine hatred is when I see and hear the leeches who don't care paradeing the corpse of my church around taunting the faithful who are far too old or timid to actually do anything. Sorry for the long post, but there's no one besides our Lord I can vent to like this.
I don't know why or how you continue operating in such a (literally) godless realm. Your venting is heard and understood, but I would seek other options though I know that causes a lot of pain. Coming from a former Protestant.
@@ConfessionsofAConvertum because God doesn’t call everyone to run away from problems. That isn’t a long term solution. The long term solution is to win some or most of this apostate churches. And some people are called to do that. You might not be called to that but he is.
@ConfessionsofAConvert It's not that people reject Christianity, it's that Christians actively take joy in rejecting and ostracizing others. You're seeing the end results of that with declining priests and parishioners.
@@ConfessionsofAConvert The struggle for truth is its own reward. Every denomination has problems in different ways, theological liberalism is a problem but not as severe as Roman errors.
@@Coolrunnings007you should try St. John’s by the U:) excellent church with plenty of people of all age ranges
Binding and losing doctrine in Heaven? Not just defining but binding and losing? This sounds further than even the Roman Catholics or Eastern Orthodox claim…
It is not
I'd imagine there are still some conservative episcopal churches. Like tiny towns where there are a lot of old poor people and in the south in mountain towns. Typically liberals go to the big cities. Conservatives stay in small towns.
@@legacyandlegend Dallas, Tx, New York City, Birmingham, Al, Orlando, Fl aren’t small cities
@@phillipwoodfin-nb7ud Those are conservative?! Weird...
What if ACNA parishes strategically took over local failing Episcopal churches?
My concern would be what would that look like? Would it play out like a corporate takeover?
If I am not mistaken, TEC has made transfer or sale of physical property difficult or not impossible. It is willing to see church property turned into secular use before falling into the hands of the ACNA.
@royquick-s5n TEC sued the ACNA for church property. The ACNA won, but I'd imagine that the churches who are conservative and stay in the TEC probably do so because they don't want to deal with a lawsuit. They'd probably be happier in the ACNA.
@@legacyandlegend I was thinking in terms of TEC parishes, not dioceses, e.g. Forth Worth. There is a local ACNA parish which was once a TEC parish. The parishioners and rector simply left, abandoned, their TEC church building, property, and continued in the ACNA. They conducted services in a school auditorium at first, then in a local Methodist Church. They bought a church building no longer in use and converted it into an ACNA parish.
Yes next question
Yes, because lest we forget that church was the first to break ranks and say artificial contraception was okay. Now only one Church still says it’s wrong.
You Ordinariate?
@@b.r.holmes6365 no, but I am familiar with the Personal Ordinariate of the Chair of Saint Peter and its head cathedral
@@VictoriousCatholicThe bishop of Antioch?
@@anathamon no…Bishop Steven Joseph Lopes
Dear Calvin, what do you mean "there is no love there", ;could you please clarify the Love that Jesus speaks we should have ?
Thank you for uploading this discussion and debate. I’m a layperson in the Anglican Church of Canada discerning vocational ministry and this gave me a lot to think about. The peace of the Lord be with you.
I want to start reading Wilhelmius Van Duyper.
Man this just not the Spirit of what Christ taught about Faith and the Holy Spirit. Your personal living relationship with Christ is so much more important
How can you foster your relationship with Christ? going to church? Serving others? Participating in the church life IS an integral part of your personal faith with Christ.
Joe, where do you attend church?
England
Joel Beeke’s Reformed systematic is definitely worth it. He is actually reformed. He holds to the 3 forms of unity. So, he makes redeemed Zoomer look unreformed 😂 Also, it is really simple in his explanations, but goes so deep. I still really like you Richard.
Question. I'm currently lutheran. I'll be moving in a few months, and there isn't a lutheran church where I'm going. There is, however, an episcopal church. No ACNA, unfortunately, either. I'm very conservative and quite fond of the 2019 book of common prayer. I know that TEC uses the 1979 BCP. should I get both the 1979 and 2019? Or is the 1979 too liberal? Also, what do I do if TEC I go to is too liberal?
Ahh the classic Protestant theosis larp: pontificate for hours on end with a Bow tie
A point on conservatism winning; the 100 years after napoleon’s defeat were literally a staunch victory for ‘conservatism’ in mainland Europe due to Metternich. It can very much win
Guys just focus on the Scriptures, prayer, your confessions, and your traditional liturgy. Everything else is just a distraction.
Hello gentlemen, I am a 58 year old GenX, nearly boomer female. I grew up Roman Catholic, got caught up in the residual aftermath of the Jesus movement in my early 20s without knowing that's where I was and what I was experiencing in my place in history. As a result, I spent about 25-ish years in Evangelical non-denominational churches that spanned everything from the charismatic shepherding movement to the neo-reformed movement. It was my generation that grew up in many traditional mainlines, left for Evangelicalism, raised our kids in Evangelicalism...and now our kids are leaving that environment. But really, it gives me hope to see many of them seeking out the 7 sisters, and even Roman Catholicism and Eastern Orthodoxy. I left my Evangelicalism about 10 years ago, and over that time, I've been going through a slow and careful deconstruction process and reconstruction process. It's been so gradual it's hard to say where it started. There were a number of inciting incidences that started to lead me away from Evangelicalism. Now, I am in an Episcopal Church that is in a conservative diocese, and I have certain Roman Catholic appreciations. But not enough to go Roman Catholic. I appreciate both of you gentlemen and listen to each of you when I can. It gives me hope for this young generation.
That's really cool to hear your background. I'm a millenni baby (I don't think anyone says that, certainly not me) so I'm a bit closer in age to these Zoomers, but I am also impressed and very surprised that there seems to be a healthy minority of Zoomers who are seeking religion and not just accepting vapid consumerism or cultivating a "vaguely spiritual" veneer, as was the prevailing choices of my gen
@samuelclayton08 I think it's great, and so needed.
how could you put churches with no sacraments above churches with them? like Presbyterians have no eucharist at least papists and orthobros have sacraments which are valid
Good stuff. Respect you both. God bless.
Glad to have found another Anglican Channel. Love from a fellow Anglican in Malaysia!
For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; - Romans 3:23 And you will seek Me and find Me when you search for Me with all your heart. - Jeremiah 29:13 “For God so loved the world, that He gave His only Son, so that everyone who believes in Him will not perish, but have eternal life. -John 3:16 Repent therefore, and turn back, that your sins may be blotted out. - Acts 3:19 If you’re in North America, please go check out any of the churches available to you: PCA, OPC, Rpcna, Urcna, or a Canrc church. (These are conservative and actual Reformed/Presbyterian churches) If you’re Scottish, I recommend the Free Church of Scotland and the APC. (Different from the Church of Scotland) If you’re English I recommend the Evangelical Presbyterian Church in England & Wales and the Free Church of England (Different from the Church of England) Also online you can look up church finders for each of the groups, it’ll show you locations And let us consider how to stir up one another to love and good works, not neglecting to meet together, as is the habit of some, but encouraging one another, and all the more as you see the Day drawing near. -Hebrews 10:24-25
so hard of a W im crying
Only a little bit through- thanks for the awesome conversation. I really liked your point Joe about how people think they believe something because of coming to a conclusion- while really it’s their life that affects this. I believed very non-denominational Baptist basic Calvinistic doctrine without question after my salvation until this year- was it because I finally was smart enough and really thought hard? No, it was because I traveled to 80 different Baptist, fundamentalist, evangelical, and nondenominational churches in the span of 9 months because of work. So my question is how to find the truth when the walls we build up are torn down? My example would never have happened 100 years ago- for better or worse I would have probably remained a Baptist my whole life. So how does ANY Christian deal (actively or passively) with our own self made “truths” in following Jesus together?
For example: once in questioning Sola Scriptura (foolishly) I said to a pastor that due to environment and circumstances if divorced from Church history a Christian reading the Bible could come to very different conclusions on interpretation. One in a more materialistic and humanistic society like ours would probably tend to view the Eucharist or Baptism as merely symbolic- since the supernatural is not part of his environment. However, someone living in a polytheistic pagan society or a pantheistic one might view these as being very effectual- since the supernatural is part of every single day anyway. It seems his response was a long the lines of that being not true, Scripture is clear enough. What do you think? I believe Scripture is clear and we are stupid- but I think my question is still valid.
Many Church Fathers anathematized people for saying that Saturday should be observed as a day of rest. I really don't think that we should support that position. As far as I know, no Church Father supported it.
I'd probably join the Episcopal Church for the Reconquista, but the ones by me all have female priests and/or rainbow flags. I'm 18 and I grew up in a nondenom; I'm not going to one of those. The ACNA Church I'm attending seems to do the liturgy well enough, though they don't have their building right now, and they do the 2019 Renewed Ancient Liturgy. I also attend Calvin University, and I really don't see any sort of Reconquista of the CRC. Calvin is moderate leaning liberal rather than moderate/conservative, and they have a female pastor. And when I looked at nearby CRC churches before deciding on Anglicanism, I noticed that there were a lot of them that didn't seem particularly conservative.
Good luck to you!
Don’t be a retreatist. It’s that way cuz of retreatists
There is a solid traditionalist CRC Dutch Reformed church in Grand Rapids. I think it's on the Reconquista map. That said, you shouldn't join a Continental church for the Reconquista if you do not believe in its doctrine. The ACNA sounds like a good home for you right now.
Focus on the Daily office, studying the scriptures, and going to liturgy. Don't worry about the reconquista.
@@thejoshuaproject3809 cringe
Awesome video!! I love the Cambridge edition of the 1662 Book of Common Prayer as well. I have both the Cambridge and International Version of the 1662 Book of Common Prayer. May God bless you and your channel!!
Sooooo….How about those female bishops? 😉
Good stream Joe and RZ. Been in low church setting through my mother's church and it just does not feel worshipful. But in that context I feel like not participating as heartfully as i can would be disrespectful to the community and presbyters there. I am thinking of moving back into the Church of Ireland, who are currently quite safe from liberalism besides women priests, but it is the only anglican church on the island. God bless!
Go back to church of Ireland as soon as possible
I'm an Episcopalian because i don't think the issue of sexual orientation isn't very high up in the importantancy hierarchy of Christianity. Therefore, I'm kind of disappointed that this comes up in the first paragraph. I think both sides of this issue care too much about it.
Happy 80th comment!
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Happy 90th comment!
He’s Anglican not Orthodox. May he truly become an Orthodox Christian 🙏☦️
What do you think about the character and personal conduct of your founder, King Henry VIII? What about his motivations for establishing the Church of England and requiring his subjects to submit to him under penalty of death? Was this divinely inspired? Seriously, how do modern Anglicans regard their founder?
@@jackguerrero7256 we do not see him as inspired in any way. He is not our "founder" he was just a political ruler of England. His schism with Rome out of his belief that he deserved an annulment is not even the schism that endures today. His daughter Mary reunited England with Rome and it was during her sister Elizabeth's reign that the bishops of England separated the Church of England from Rome again. It is that schism that endures between the Anglican churches and Rome that we are currently living in.
As a cradle Anglican, I find his character repugnant and self-serving (the DJT of his day, to use a modern example.) Thank you for pointing this out, because for the first time, I can now understand how evangelicals (and other christians) tolerate DJT, while at the same time not respecting his character.
Bruh how'd you manage to get 37 likes that was sad 😂
Until a Catholic doctrine is elevated to a dogma no theologian or bishop can be tried for heresy, this most likely came into play before many Catholic teachings or traditions were turned into dogma in the early ❤Christianity. Thomas Aquinas in his early years could not accept the Catholic teaching of Mary’s immaculate conception but when another theologian by the name of Duns Scotus when he postulated the idea that a person could be saved from falling into a well by pulling them out of the well and another way to save such a person is to prevent them from initially falling into the well in the first place. Once Scotus came up with this idea Aquinas changed his mind into accepting the immaculate conception of Mary, but since the immaculate conception was never made into a dogma of the faith he could not be charged with heresy.