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ACNA might be the new TEC if they don’t put a stop on women ordination

Please start your own Episcopalian/Anglican denomination spread the word please!

The (39) Articles of Religion are not binding on Anglicans, clerical and lay. We are supposed to believe the three historic creeds but they are shared with most of orthodox Christendom. So beyond them we are free to believe whatever we want about everything else.

I do want to say that I am encouraged to find a discussion among ACNA and Episcopal church priests who are both orthodox. Ever since the 1980s when I attended an Episcopal Church, I have met very few orthodox Episcopal priests. I even have some friends who were more or less orthodox, but I have watched as they have become more and more progressive. When an institution as a whole is very progressive, it is very hard to stay faithful.

I am a member of the ACNA. I understand the arguments for church unity, and would agree that there are some divisions in the church that have happened because of issues that are not heretical on either side. My question is, is an apostate church even part of the church? Once you have denied the core doctrines of the church and sound moral practices, do you have any authority at all? the argument seems to be that it is the local bishop that counts, but then why be part of a larger institutional structure at all?

Has or has not the Episcopal Church, as a denomination, abandoned traditional biblical morality in regard to homosexual conduct? If a member of the Episcopal Church, is not one participating in the support of the position that the Episcopal Church, as a denomination, taken?🤔

Cool, I guess you found the guys.

Is one’s religion supposed to be a hobby, like stamp collecting or photography, or a way of life?

Based! When can we expect more Reconquista content???

Except there was actually a council in the book of acts that did decide this thing for the entire entirety of the church. Where as there wasn’t a set in uniform canon until again the third century

All Protestant sects are

I am the Catholic grandson of Rev. Paul L.C. Hallett, pastor of St. Albans Episcopal Church in Edina, MN. This whatever it was bummed me out. Brothers - ask the bigger questions - which I know you have - but fellas - maybe it’s time to come home. My dad (Rev. Paul’s son) did so when I was a little boy (we’d done Mass and services before then) and it made a huge difference. The fires of hell will indeed not prevail, but you’re smart enough to know that this doesn’t apply to Henry. If we are putting the past behind us then consider the extent to which England’s predatory war on the Irish and the North American English-speaking world’s long history of anti-Catholic bigotry might be blinding you. Forgive me for any charity I have lacked, and please pray for me and for an increase in charity in me. I will pray for both of you and for the fruitfulness of both of your ministries. Ps: You both definitely know Mary is the Immaculate Conception perpetually virgin and sinless Queen of Heaven. Praise God!

I'm a Catholic with absolutely no interest in either side. However, I am intensely interested in hearing these perspectives. Around the 1:29:00 mark, I am very confused how one could say there are dioceses with no bishop, affirm that many (most?) churches have invalid sacraments, and still want to remain within that communion? All of this talk of "politics" in unacceptable when sacraments deal with the souls of the faithful. I really do think you all would find it would be a lot easier to find what you are seeking within the Ordinariate. I know personally I just couldn't live with such a reality of invalid sacraments. I appreciate this debate, thanks for posting it. I will come back to it much.

If the good Shepherds abandon the good members of the flock and leave them to the wolves because of the wolves within the Shepherds and the flock then who is there to protect the good members of the flock? Is it not the priests and the bishops that are to sacrifice themselves for the sake of the flock even to their own destruction as the prophets of old did, never breaking off to start a new country or new order but rather contending with the one that be to the bitter destructive ends. Just a thought. Thank you. May our Lord God save the Episcopal Church.

Before watching this I just want to say sometimes it gets disheartening being conservative in TEC. I was the only youth member at our convention who actually believed in God, let alone cared. It's sad to see all the old dying members who are still faithful look at me like the second coming because they haven't seen a young person interested in church for so long. It's horrible to think what's going to happen to my church, the second oldest continuously operating in Utah, when I'm gone cause everybody else is 60 years or older. The only time I feel genuine hatred is when I see and hear the leeches who don't care paradeing the corpse of my church around taunting the faithful who are far too old or timid to actually do anything. Sorry for the long post, but there's no one besides our Lord I can vent to like this.

Binding and losing doctrine in Heaven? Not just defining but binding and losing? This sounds further than even the Roman Catholics or Eastern Orthodox claim…

It is not

What if ACNA parishes strategically took over local failing Episcopal churches?

Yes next question

Yes, because lest we forget that church was the first to break ranks and say artificial contraception was okay. Now only one Church still says it’s wrong.

Dear Calvin, what do you mean "there is no love there", ;could you please clarify the Love that Jesus speaks we should have ?

Thank you for uploading this discussion and debate. I’m a layperson in the Anglican Church of Canada discerning vocational ministry and this gave me a lot to think about. The peace of the Lord be with you.

I want to start reading Wilhelmius Van Duyper.

Man this just not the Spirit of what Christ taught about Faith and the Holy Spirit. Your personal living relationship with Christ is so much more important

Joe, where do you attend church?

Joel Beeke’s Reformed systematic is definitely worth it. He is actually reformed. He holds to the 3 forms of unity. So, he makes redeemed Zoomer look unreformed 😂 Also, it is really simple in his explanations, but goes so deep. I still really like you Richard.

Question. I'm currently lutheran. I'll be moving in a few months, and there isn't a lutheran church where I'm going. There is, however, an episcopal church. No ACNA, unfortunately, either. I'm very conservative and quite fond of the 2019 book of common prayer. I know that TEC uses the 1979 BCP. should I get both the 1979 and 2019? Or is the 1979 too liberal? Also, what do I do if TEC I go to is too liberal?

Ahh the classic Protestant theosis larp: pontificate for hours on end with a Bow tie

A point on conservatism winning; the 100 years after napoleon’s defeat were literally a staunch victory for ‘conservatism’ in mainland Europe due to Metternich. It can very much win

Guys just focus on the Scriptures, prayer, your confessions, and your traditional liturgy. Everything else is just a distraction.

Hello gentlemen, I am a 58 year old GenX, nearly boomer female. I grew up Roman Catholic, got caught up in the residual aftermath of the Jesus movement in my early 20s without knowing that's where I was and what I was experiencing in my place in history. As a result, I spent about 25-ish years in Evangelical non-denominational churches that spanned everything from the charismatic shepherding movement to the neo-reformed movement. It was my generation that grew up in many traditional mainlines, left for Evangelicalism, raised our kids in Evangelicalism...and now our kids are leaving that environment. But really, it gives me hope to see many of them seeking out the 7 sisters, and even Roman Catholicism and Eastern Orthodoxy. I left my Evangelicalism about 10 years ago, and over that time, I've been going through a slow and careful deconstruction process and reconstruction process. It's been so gradual it's hard to say where it started. There were a number of inciting incidences that started to lead me away from Evangelicalism. Now, I am in an Episcopal Church that is in a conservative diocese, and I have certain Roman Catholic appreciations. But not enough to go Roman Catholic. I appreciate both of you gentlemen and listen to each of you when I can. It gives me hope for this young generation.

how could you put churches with no sacraments above churches with them? like Presbyterians have no eucharist at least papists and orthobros have sacraments which are valid

Good stuff. Respect you both. God bless.

Glad to have found another Anglican Channel. Love from a fellow Anglican in Malaysia!

For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; - Romans 3:23 And you will seek Me and find Me when you search for Me with all your heart. - Jeremiah 29:13 “For God so loved the world, that He gave His only Son, so that everyone who believes in Him will not perish, but have eternal life. -John 3:16 Repent therefore, and turn back, that your sins may be blotted out. - Acts 3:19 If you’re in North America, please go check out any of the churches available to you: PCA, OPC, Rpcna, Urcna, or a Canrc church. (These are conservative and actual Reformed/Presbyterian churches) If you’re Scottish, I recommend the Free Church of Scotland and the APC. (Different from the Church of Scotland) If you’re English I recommend the Evangelical Presbyterian Church in England & Wales and the Free Church of England (Different from the Church of England) Also online you can look up church finders for each of the groups, it’ll show you locations And let us consider how to stir up one another to love and good works, not neglecting to meet together, as is the habit of some, but encouraging one another, and all the more as you see the Day drawing near. -Hebrews 10:24-25

so hard of a W im crying

Only a little bit through- thanks for the awesome conversation. I really liked your point Joe about how people think they believe something because of coming to a conclusion- while really it’s their life that affects this. I believed very non-denominational Baptist basic Calvinistic doctrine without question after my salvation until this year- was it because I finally was smart enough and really thought hard? No, it was because I traveled to 80 different Baptist, fundamentalist, evangelical, and nondenominational churches in the span of 9 months because of work. So my question is how to find the truth when the walls we build up are torn down? My example would never have happened 100 years ago- for better or worse I would have probably remained a Baptist my whole life. So how does ANY Christian deal (actively or passively) with our own self made “truths” in following Jesus together?

Many Church Fathers anathematized people for saying that Saturday should be observed as a day of rest. I really don't think that we should support that position. As far as I know, no Church Father supported it.

I'd probably join the Episcopal Church for the Reconquista, but the ones by me all have female priests and/or rainbow flags. I'm 18 and I grew up in a nondenom; I'm not going to one of those. The ACNA Church I'm attending seems to do the liturgy well enough, though they don't have their building right now, and they do the 2019 Renewed Ancient Liturgy. I also attend Calvin University, and I really don't see any sort of Reconquista of the CRC. Calvin is moderate leaning liberal rather than moderate/conservative, and they have a female pastor. And when I looked at nearby CRC churches before deciding on Anglicanism, I noticed that there were a lot of them that didn't seem particularly conservative.

Awesome video!! I love the Cambridge edition of the 1662 Book of Common Prayer as well. I have both the Cambridge and International Version of the 1662 Book of Common Prayer. May God bless you and your channel!!

Sooooo….How about those female bishops? 😉

Good stream Joe and RZ. Been in low church setting through my mother's church and it just does not feel worshipful. But in that context I feel like not participating as heartfully as i can would be disrespectful to the community and presbyters there. I am thinking of moving back into the Church of Ireland, who are currently quite safe from liberalism besides women priests, but it is the only anglican church on the island. God bless!

I'm an Episcopalian because i don't think the issue of sexual orientation isn't very high up in the importantancy hierarchy of Christianity. Therefore, I'm kind of disappointed that this comes up in the first paragraph. I think both sides of this issue care too much about it.

Happy 80th comment!

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Happy 90th comment!

He’s Anglican not Orthodox. May he truly become an Orthodox Christian 🙏☦️

What do you think about the character and personal conduct of your founder, King Henry VIII? What about his motivations for establishing the Church of England and requiring his subjects to submit to him under penalty of death? Was this divinely inspired? Seriously, how do modern Anglicans regard their founder?

Bruh how'd you manage to get 37 likes that was sad 😂

Until a Catholic doctrine is elevated to a dogma no theologian or bishop can be tried for heresy, this most likely came into play before many Catholic teachings or traditions were turned into dogma in the early ❤Christianity. Thomas Aquinas in his early years could not accept the Catholic teaching of Mary’s immaculate conception but when another theologian by the name of Duns Scotus when he postulated the idea that a person could be saved from falling into a well by pulling them out of the well and another way to save such a person is to prevent them from initially falling into the well in the first place. Once Scotus came up with this idea Aquinas changed his mind into accepting the immaculate conception of Mary, but since the immaculate conception was never made into a dogma of the faith he could not be charged with heresy.