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I just read through the differences, and I'm not sure about switching, as I don't like these things about Lapwing: A single "correct" way to write words notion. I sometimes use different multistrokes for some words (when I know the affixes) and I'm happy with the many different ways to split up words in Plover. KWH for y. I'm too used to KWR. *PL for -mp. I use FRP exclusively for -mp, I hate using *PL. KWR as the suffix chord. I would rather use KWH, with my y problem. That syllabic splitting sounds super restricting for me. Yet, I still want to do Lapwing, and I will if I can solve these problems.

You can write anything with steno as long as it is in your dictionary. If you understand your steno theory well enough, you can break down any word into a set of steno strokes. However, any dictionary you use is never going to be 100% complete, and you are expected to always be adding missing entries that you come across. With the theory that I use, I'd write these words as: `TPHU/PHOE/TPHOE/UL/TRA/PHAOEU/KRO/SKO/PEUBG/SEU/HREU/KO/SROL/KA/TPHO/KO/TPHEU/KWROE/SEUS` `HAOE/PHOE/TKPWHROE/PWEUPB` `TE/TRA/PHAOER` Out of these three words, I only have "hemoglobin" defined, however. If I wrote the other outlines, they would just output the raw steno as shown above (since they aren't defined). So, what I could do is either add the terms beforehand, or just come back to the undefined entries later and fix them up. This is what court reporters typically do. When they finish their transcript, they will review all the untranslated strokes, add them to their dictionary, and their software will automatically replace them in the transcript with the actual term. I'm not sure if this is a viable workflow for your uses, but it's just the nature of steno that you are constantly tweaking your dictionary and adding stuff that you need.

@@AerickSteno thanks a lot🔥❤️

Nah it works with other languages. The only issue is that the community is so small no one has put in the effort to add support for other languages. Here is my Vietnamese system: czcams.com/video/5LLYKb2uwuo/video.html This is a list of all the languages that Plover supports/may support in the future: plover.wiki/index.php/Steno_Layouts_and_Supported_Languages I really don't know what you're trying to say in the second part though...I'm guessing you're thinking that steno only works for typing/transcription? I've also got a video to disprove that: czcams.com/video/pW647nfzXLk/video.html I will agree, though, that it's not for everyone :)

Yes, you do not need to update the firmware if you want to use Javelin with Plover! I show this at 3:14. Javelin can be used by itself (embedded mode), but can also be used with Plover (Gemini PR mode). You can toggle between the two modes by pressing a key combo usually (depends on the board)

@@AerickSteno thank you, can i know what key combinations for switching. Im using Uni v4.

@@AerickSteno Also one of the keys in my Uni v4 suddenly stopped working. it's the Final -L key, do you know any possible way to fix this? maybe like resetting the keyboard? or tweaking some settings , hoping for your reply. I badly need to fix this or it's gonna be difficult for me to continue studying. Thank you!

@@ryanjustinrazon4237 You have to press the two thumber keys, the top S- on the left, and the -D key on the right. The key combo is listed in the Javelin firmware builder page: lim.au/#/software/javelin-steno . You just have to select your board, and then scroll all the way to the bottom (step 5). It's unlikely that it's a firmware issue if a single key just suddenly stopped working. You can try reverting the firmware back to the original one and see if that fixes it. If not, you can join the Plover Discord server, and we might be able to diagnose what's wrong with it. You can also reach out to Peter at StenoKeyboards.com to see if he can repair it.

I tried pressing all 4keys and the embedded steno stopped but Plover is still not working. It says "disconnected" what should I do? thanks

Mostly learning curve and the effort you need to put into finding a system/dictionaries that are compatible with your workflow. In some cases it's just easier to use a regular keyboard. Also, Plover is relatively new (less than 20 years old) and QWERTY keyboards have been around much longer than that. Steno has been around for a long time too, but no one thought of using stenography for general computer usage, not to mention that hardware was prohibitively expensive.

I'm not sure. There are no studies on the topic. This is not the same, but for people suffering from RSI and carpal tunnel, some have reported steno is better than a regular keyboard, some have reported it's worse.

Depends on the format. If it's RTF, you can just import it into Plover pretty easily (some of the syntax of special commands might need to be tweaked, but all the word translations will work). If it's a different format, you'll need to figure out how to convert it to JSON, which, sadly there isn't much info on how to do that online. We'd be happy to help in the Discord server for sure!

Plover theory and the default dictionary? Depends if it clicks with you. For me personally, when I came across a word that didn't make sense in the dictionary, I ended up just memorizing a brief or adding my own entry that was more intuitive (this was quite early on in the process). I know for sure that some people don't like that approach, which is why I made and recommend Lapwing instead. For most people it's probably the better choice, in my opinion.

dotterel is also the app i used before getting a steno board and using a normal keyboard to use for steno by changing the keyboard input

According to Javelin's creator, the licences are incompatible.

@@AerickSteno Interesting, I assumed it would've been distributed under either MIT or GPL, but I've never heard of its Polyform license before.

QMK doesn't provide much of what I need to build a full system. It also supports a lot of things (e.g., 8-bit processors that complicate the code) that I have no intention of ever supporting. Taking full control of everything is what allows tight integration of configuration, firmware and web tools functionality. Boards like MultiSteno aren’t supported because they lack the hardware, not because of any other reason Also, I have no interest in maintaining a separate fork of QMK, or fighting QMK politics for mainlining any work. Plover HID PR from dnaq has sat unmerged for 3 years, so it doesn’t seem there is much priority on stenography. Stenography features such as first up and repeat have not been merged for even longer and have become so far out of sync to be difficult for people to rebuild for new boards too

@@jeffreylim9979 Gotcha, makes sense. Thanks for clarifying.

I'm using the plover retro quotes plugin (or retro surround, I can't remember). It hasn't actually been working recently because of weird technical reasons that I haven't had time to investigate, though.

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@@AerickSteno Thank You!

Yeah, there are a few that support Javelin. There's some information on the wiki but it's still in progress: plover.wiki/index.php/Choosing_a_hobbyist_steno_writer#Javelin_support

There's a list here: plover.wiki/index.php/Supported_hardware

Have a look at this page: plover.wiki/index.php/Setting_up_a_hobbyist_writer_with_Plover If it's still not working, I'd suggest trying a different cable, making sure it's plugged in correctly, and then if all else fails, maybe try opening a tech support thread in the Plover Discord. We could help troubleshoot your issue.

They're still available to watch in one the playlists I think. If not I'll update it. I just didn't like them and would like to redo them at some point.

I've never; they're too expensive, and I don't know any professionals stenographers in real life. I'd love to at some point.

This video came out when I was in my second year of using steno. I had been practising for an hour or two a day up until this point. I was also still 16, so neuroplasticity and all that.

Space before and space after both have their weird quirks and bugs. The definitions I use for movement and things like that expect space before, and if I switch to space after, it's really buggy. The default songs in Steno Hero aren't all free from content ID. In any case, I've always added my own songs which are definitely not copyright free.

@@AerickSteno Thanks for the info. I have started space before, and I find it better than after, at least when I use steno.

I don't have use my SOFT/HRUF anymore, but I'd guess maybe 20 to 25 grams? About the same as the spring swapped Ecosteno/Multisteno. I don't really have any tips for swapping the springs on the Ecosteno; it's been a while and I don't know if trying to write text based instructions will be helpful. You'd probably be best searching for tutorials online.

Some steno keyboards support Javelin, which features an embedded steno engine (all the translations occur on the keyboard itself). That way you don't need to install anything on your host device. czcams.com/video/nLBu5DZI4fY/video.html

same lol

On qwerty each note correlates to a key on the keyboard if you played piano on a steno keyboard you wouldn’t be able to play all of the notes the whole point is each note corresponds to each key so you could play a note individually or in a chord