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Both have to have to be able to rotate well! Pitcher does have to use their front leg to allow the upper half to snap over a strong fulcrum, kind of like in hitting where they stay back, but yes altogether very different movements!

@@CoachConnerPorter exactly!

It’s what it has always been called! Give it a google!

@@CoachConnerPorter Gotcha, I didn't know if this was something you coined or just an industry standard name for the movement. Still funny though that it's just an 'M' ;)

It's still an M no matter what it's been called

@@smudent2010 it’s worth a google. 😂

LETS GET IT!!

The throwing motion rotates around the spine. The further away the hand is from the spine the hand will move faster. It’s basically rotational leverage. Think about a longer lever arm versus a shorter one. The longer one will move faster at the far end with less effort compared to shorter one. I think about swinging a long stick outside in the yard, you can hear it slice through the air when you swing it. But you can pick up a short stick and swing it as hard as you can and never hear it make the whooshing sound through the air. Same principle for creating handspeed.

Well said. If you could add a video or commentary on how to effectively make this happen we would appreciate it. We like all the videos. Info. Format.detail. Etc it’s great keep up the good work.

@@Unoriginal42069 I just dropped this video tonight! Check it out!!

Sedentary lifestyles have created what you’re talking about. I guess we are going to ignore Bob Gibson, Nolan Ryan, Randy Johnson, Justin Verlander and many others careers? Spotting up and throwing 84 doesn’t cut it. Hitters and pitchers are better than they have ever been. That’s why starters can’t go further than 5 innings during a bad outing because most hitters on every MLB team right now would have been a superstar in every other era likely before 1995.

@CoachConnerPorter I'm not ignoring those guys, if anything I am using them as a prime example of how different bodies are built for different things. Trying to make every pitcher a high velo pitcher can ruin careers of young players who could have been successful without having to throw in the mid to high 90s. There can be a middle ground of manageable velo training without having this mindset of milking every mph possible out of an arm on every throw. It's not sustainable. Does speed help? Yes but you shouldn't force it if that isn't your strength. There are plenty of examples of successful pitchers that didn't have a 98 mph fastball. Great coaches try to maximize each players' individual talents, not try to mold every player into their idea of the ideal player. I'm not saying you aren't a great coach because all I've seen is this one video, I just don't exactly agree with the message this video is putting out there.

@@jameszaimes7407 I would argue that you didn’t watch the entire video, just the first sentence that I said.

@CoachConnerPorter I watched the whole video and I will admit I missed where you did say you have to be built for it, so my mistake. It has been a long day so I didn't catch that. Apologies. If you would like me to delete my criticisms to not draw negative comments toward your post, I have no issue doing that.

Yeah

Yeah that is me

Most of the time off speed pitches are used to throw the batters timing off and get swing and misses, not a called strike. If it’s a called strike then that is just a bonus to what the pitch is thrown for

I bet you would have swung at it though!

Bro changeups are not even really meant to hit the strike zone.

​@@CoachConnerPorterhe would have

That’s right bro! 😤

Yessir!!!!

Nice I was there last week

Yes sir! The best 11yr/o changeup I’ve ever seen!!

Yes it’s a very good pitch! This pitch served me well in my college and pro career!

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No doubt!!!

Not a problem!!

Love to hear this!!

You are correct. It’s also acts as a timing mechanism for the upper body to get into good position. There are MLB’ers who have big and small leg lifts but like you said, they load the back hip very well.

Watch slomo video of any mlb pitchers , volleyball hitters and javelin throwers. You tell me if they are releasing the ball near their ear or not. I threw 90+ mph for over 10 years and can still throw 90mph 7 years after my playing career and my release is full extension away from ear. No surgeries or injuries. So there’s a nearly 20 year study for ya.

Yes, high velocity pitchers release ball away from ear as you can see in the MLB examples provided. You are correct, releasing by the ear would be very difficult pitch to finish.

@@CoachConnerPorter there’s a limit though, pure sidearming isn’t the best way to generate velocity, it’s more about just letting your shoulder dictate what arm path feels most natural and having your trunk angle do whatever generates most velocity

Actually the shoulder doesn’t dictate arm action. Posture does. look at the pictures and the arm slot relative to the spine. From submarine, to side arm, to over the top they are all very similar.

@@CoachConnerPorter Not really, posture matters a lot but like the difference between a Degrom arm slot to a Verlander arm slot when both of them are straight up and down torso wise. Or like a Josh Hader to a Blake snell when they’re both slightly tilted towards their arms.

@@Katsos44hader and snells torsos are tilted away from their arms exactly in the same torso/arm position as the examples in this video. Google images is a very good resource.

lol ok, I guess you ignored the pictures of literal hall of famers doing it.

@@CoachConnerPorteryeah and they didnt have as long of careers as they should of, statistics show it puts more strain on the arm

@@ChristianPauley-hq7tohall of famers having short careers? lol what.

@@CoachConnerPorteryou do realize a pitcher in the mlb doesnt throw near as much as highscoolers and below, they may seem like they have a long career but not really if you consider how little they pitch. I wouldnt suggest this form at all

​@ChristianPauley-hq7to did you really try to say that Kershaw and Randy haven't had long careers?

That's when I decided to develop a circle change. I didn't want to hang another splitter 😆😅🤣

@@jasonglessner1932lol!!!!!

Good feedback! Great work!

@@CoachConnerPorter wondering if pitchers do cool downs. Sprinters do them and I just started that too. Ive never heard of it for baseball - but I also just started ending my sessions with about 15 very light and short distance tosses.

@@j5555785absolutely! There are recovery exercises that will up-regulate bloodflow through the arm after a workout! I will post a video on this! Be on the lookout!

Thank God noone watches this channel and can read this absolute nonsense. You did not throw a 100 pitch bullpen. You did not do this in a half hour. There is a very small chance some poor kid read this and went and tried the same garbage you just promoted and blew their arm out. You should be absolutely ashamed of yourself.

Absolutely!!!

Do it!!!!

We will see you in the MLB someday!!!!!!

Im only 13 🤷‍♂️