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I really love this channel!! It's awesome and has helped me so much!

Tim. I thought the wing could have let the play go because the defender was past the numbers and very near the sideline.

He pushed him… like I get trying to make football safe but come on…

I said while watching, "I like Mike!!" "When in doubt, he's out" Legal. Outside of the free blocking zone and pass reaches the line of scrimmage.

The fact that the umps are NOT gonna call a replant even if back foot lands first by judging where they think the front foot woulda landed is so silly... Example: I can generate tons more power with 2 stationary feet throwing a football than standing stationary on one leg. Even if the front foot doesn’t go further, it generates way more power to have a planted back foot.

For me I have Intentional Grounding but that's just me

Last year our Umpire lined up in the offensive backfield and positioned just outside the left tackle...it was an easy call for him to determine whether the QB was outside the FBZ.

If I was on the field in this position, once a member of my crew has told me there's no receiver in the area I'm dropping my flag on this one. From the referee's viewpoint, it would certainly look like the QB never left the tackle box and it would like the 2 defenders are close enough. Personally I would line up a little bit tighter - just outside the tackle / equal with the tight end, as this gives me a good angle. However, looking at the replays it certainly is tight as to whether the QB was in or out of the pocket, and whether he's under duress or not. `Going by the IAFOA mechanics manual, the when in doubt principle says "When in doubt, the passer has not intentionally grounded the ball" (MM-6.2.19). A centre judge would be very useful in this situation!

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Great discussion!

Don’t even ask the coach what he wants. If R has the ball just tack it on. There’s no universe where they will choose a rekick. Tack it on and go.

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The UMP and BJ are looking right at the catch, if it was not a catch you think one of them would of made the call. LJ and HL right on the GL to rule if the ball came out or not. This is great work by the crew. Good call.

You should mention the enforcement of the foul. If R recovers R ball and tack on from there. If K recovers -10 and rekick.

Thanks for sharing this play again. Im still in the R holding camp and am also fine with a dead ball UNR by the kicking team

Nothing! Good talking too, that’s it. Don’t over officiate

I am very grateful for this video. Many of the video play analysis resources out there have a "here's a play, here's the right call" where they're showing something that everyone can agree on and learn from. But we need to see the plays where even experts can disagree, because that's where we dig into the philosophies and the nuances that help us grow as officials. Nice job MIBT team! (And because I can't keep my own darn mouth shut: I have no flag. R 29 is a faster runner and was palm-on-chest the whole way down, and K 21 delivered a wraparound takedown at the end which by technique was a hold but by philosophy provided zero material advantage to K team. That takedown at the end is a talk-to so they know I'm watching if they escalate later. As someone likes to say, you have to Make It Be There and I just can't. Or as others in the officiating realm say: Catch the sharks, leave the minnows alone.)

I am with you on it's a no-call. It looks like mutual grabbing.

If I saw this live time, I got nothing. There was smoke. The receiving team might have held at the beginning but then the kicking team yanked him down in frustration. That's my two cents.

You have found the UNICORN! (Both players appear to touch the ground at the same time) Speedy rulings don't usually help us. I think it's Joint Possession, TD.

I would like to see the wing officials come in harder. Sell the call.

I reached out to an official at a higher level than I and he said this call is more art than science. I would like to see the LOS running to the pile and make the call.

The only clue we get that this could possibly be a TD is how both wing officials are walking in ON the goal line. If either of them were positive that the ball carrier was stopped short, I'd want to see them haring in a good half yard short, selling the crap out of the call. Just remember, no cheap points. Only award a TD if you're 100% sure.

I'm not exactly sure of this philosophy. This receiver didn't get knocked down nor does he even continue to participate. In my opinion as an LOS, this receiver was in their area and I don't think we can read their minds. Tim got passionate but also a bit too worked up.

What if a lineman made the same, quick, flinching movement as the quarterback? If no one was drawn into the neutral zone, I'd have a quick discussion with the quarterback. Otherwise I'd lean heavily towards a false start with the QB simulating action at the snap. A stadium microphone would be very helpful to announce the action that led to calling a false start. It would minimize the boo's from one side of the field.

Great explanation!

Once the kick touches anything out of bounds the ball is dead. The fact that the player who touched it returns in bounds is insignificant. Free kick out of bounds is the only foul here.

Personal, Public, and Provocative = ejection in my view.

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definitely created an unfair advantage by the wide receiver using his body to block the defender. I would support an OPI call. Would you suggest the wing official punch forwards or backwards to make it clear if the pass was caught in front / behind the LOS in this situation?

This is a really tough call...especially with a 5 man crew. My initial responsibilities I have two receivers on my side as the H. I do not have any help with from the B. At that point, I get the back coming out too and the B is probably not assisting me yet due to the time it takes for recognition. I think it is a foul and I am excited if I get it, however, I completely understand why this would not be gotten. You would have to see the head of the blocking receiver to identify any intent. (I always answer these prior to listening to the experts in the clip.

If the ball came out of the end zone it’s a safety. If the ball didn’t come out it’s a touchback.

On the last scenario, while north and south it is the same, previous spot or spot of foul, where would you mark the penalty off from laterally?

This play sits right on the edge of the ruling. In real time if you catch it and flag for OPI I'm ok with that. In contrast it doesn't jump out and if no flag is thrown I'm ok with that too. Tough call either way.

It'd be nice to know which team had possession of the ball at the end of the play before asking what our call would be for the poll. It's difficult to tell on your first set of videos, before the poll, which team (black or white) had possession in the end zone after all the shenanigans. Great video!

Late hit personal foul for unnecessary rouchness

A27 or A28.

Everyone missed the illegal BSB by #72.

I'm amazed that the L got this! That's a good get!

Kudos to white #44 for restraining his teammate and shepherding him away so quickly. If he hadn't been there, white #95 would've landed some big blows then all hell would've broken loose. Look forward to welcoming you guys at the BAFRA convention next month!

Wing official....drop your bean bag before going to scrum. Need to know where the run ended.

We've all moved a player as the ball is being snapped. Most of us do it once because it makes us look bad when people are moving at the snap because we moved them.

In Texas, we would have invalid fair catch signal - not a foul but shut it down once caught.

It's tough to see in this format....I cannot make it any bigger than about 3 inches on my computer screen.

Invalid FC signal all the way. Flag it because the rule is there for a reason. As officials we shouldn't be picking and choosing when to enforce a foul when it's so obvious. It doesn't even need to be debated.

I agree with invalid and would expect the official to flag it. Invalid is just a 5-yard penalty and it puts a stop to that type of decision having to be made moving forward.

Poorly worded question Tim, sorry. Just like Mike said, it’s not a FC. It is an invalid FC signal however. Would I flag it? No but the play is dead.

The FJ is to close to the play. Where he is standing when the play happens he is straight lined. Should be another 5-10 yards deeper.

How become to the Major League Baseball Umpire.

My only concern would be that neither the deep official or the B are in a position to see if there was a push off. I'm neither of those officials so I'm not really knowledgeable on what their positioning should be.