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Reflections on "Naturalizing Relevance Realization" (dialoguing with Tim Jackson)
discussing this paper: www.frontiersin.org/journals/psychology/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2024.1362658/full
We discuss the concept of relevance realization, the nature of life and cognition, computational models, the grounding problem, formal causation, and various metaphysical frameworks. We reference philosophers and scientists such as Charles Sanders Peirce, Alfred North Whitehead, David Deutsch, and others.
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Between Phenomenology, Science, and Process Ontology (dialogue with James Schofield)
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James mentioned ahartsolutions.com/ at the end of our conversation. Other relevant links: faculty.bentley.edu/profile/jschofield philpeople.org/profiles/james-schofield-2
Metaphysics, Science, and Waking Up (dialogue with Roman Campolo)
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1:01 - Plato's View on the Physical World and Eternal Forms 5:01 - The Passive Nature of Eternal Objects and Active Role of Actual Occasions 12:00 - Metaphysics, Science, and Spirituality: Process Philosophy's Impact on Scientific Practice 22:08 - Reimagining Science as Relational and Value-Driven 35:04 - Integrating Moral and Spiritual Values into Scientific Inquiry 50:12 - The Relationship Be...
Psychedelic-Assisted Therapy: A dialogue with Evan Sola, PsyD and Casey Paleos, MD
zhlédnutí 753Před 21 dnem
A clinical psychologist and psychiatrist involved in MAPS' phase 3 MDMA trials weigh in on the ethical and ontological challenges of psychedelic psychotherapy. Rough transcript available here: footnotes2plato.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/transcript-of-matt-evan-and-casey.pdf Evan and Casey both have chapters in a soon to be published American Psychological Association textbook on psychedelic ...
Philosophy of/as Information in Simondon, Floridi, and Whitehead (dialogue with Tim Jackson)
zhlédnutí 1,1KPřed 21 dnem
we discuss Ashley Woodward's pape on Simondonr: discovery.dundee.ac.uk/ws/portalfiles/portal/117607882/Ashley_Woodward_Philosophy_ofas_Information.pdf
"The Blind Spot" (2024): A Critical and Reconstructive Review with Timothy Jackson
zhlédnutí 1,5KPřed měsícem
Tim and I discuss the core chapters from Frank, Gleiser, and Thompson's new book "The Blind Spot: Why Science Cannot Ignore Human Experience" (MIT Press, 2024): www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/739505/the-blind-spot-by-adam-frank-marcelo-gleiser-and-evan-thompson/9780262048804/ Read my other reviews of this book: open.substack.com/pub/footnotes2plato/p/review-of-the-blind-spot-by-frank open.sub...
Sexuality, Gender, and the Evolution of Consciousness (dialogue with Roman Campolo)
zhlédnutí 1,1KPřed měsícem
from the personal to the cosmic, polyamory, deep time, and the incarnation of the Logos
Metamodern Christianity? Or Christ as Cosmogram
zhlédnutí 1,9KPřed měsícem
rambling appreciation for John Vervaeke and Brandan Graham Dempsey's dialogue (czcams.com/video/AlpQJVy18H4/video.htmlsi=0S6w8MVQB71f0SuB), and a few offerings of my own on the topic (footnotes2plato.substack.com/p/what-is-metamodern-christianity)
Alfred North Whitehead on Instinct, Intelligence, and Wisdom
zhlédnutí 1,1KPřed 2 měsíci
From "Adventures of Ideas" (1933), pp. 47-48. "Our consciousness does not initiate our modes of functioning. We awake to find ourselves engaged in process, immersed in satis¬factions and dissatisfactions, and actively modifying, either by intensification, or by attenuation, or by the introduction of novel purposes. This primary procedure which is presupposed in con¬sciousness, I will term Insti...
Jung's "Answer to Job" (part 2 dialoging with Tim Jackson)
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footnotes2plato.substack.com/p/part-2-on-jungs-answer-to-job
On Jung's "Answer to Job" (dialogue with Timothy Jackson, part 1)
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footnotes2plato.substack.com/p/on-jungs-answer-to-job Introduction to Jung's Answer to Job, published in 1952 after Jung's heart attack and encounter with mortality. Discussion of Jung's attempt to mediate between secular and religious worldviews. Themes discussed: The role of the feminine (Sophia) in Jung's interpretation of the Book of Job. Jung identifies Sophia with the Holy Spirit in a Gno...
Iain McGilchrist - "Life of Brian" intro on Fri March 29 2024
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Iain's impromptu intro open.substack.com/pub/footnotes2plato/p/in-defense-of-truth-as-participation?r=2at642&
my conference welcome and opening
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open.substack.com/pub/footnotes2plato/p/in-defense-of-truth-as-participation?r=2at642&
C. G. Jung: Reception and Relevance (Dialogue with Tim Jackson)
zhlédnutí 1,6KPřed 2 měsíci
John Vervaeke's dialogue about the Jung/Buber debate: czcams.com/video/SKQZY30YZQk/video.htmlsi=x2aHrOtiNy-vLHU7 0:10 Personal discoveries of Jung 10:50 Psychology of Religion and Psychedelics 18:07 Jung's Psychotherapy Approach 28:42 Individuation and Political Reform 43:50 The charge of anti-semitism 1:08:45 Hitler/Trump Comparisons? 1:12:09 Jung on the dangers of modern disenchantment 1:20:1...
Imagining the Ether (dialogue with Roman Campolo)
zhlédnutí 845Před 2 měsíci
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Open and Relational Christianity (podcast with Jonathan Foster)
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Open and Relational Christianity (podcast with Jonathan Foster)
Polycomputing and Process Philosophy (dialogue with Tim Jackson)
zhlédnutí 1,3KPřed 2 měsíci
Polycomputing and Process Philosophy (dialogue with Tim Jackson)
The Strange Uses of Philosophy (dialogue with Roman Campolo)
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The Strange Uses of Philosophy (dialogue with Roman Campolo)
Generalizing the Function: Process Ontology and Free Energy (dialogue with Tim Jackson)
zhlédnutí 857Před 3 měsíci
Generalizing the Function: Process Ontology and Free Energy (dialogue with Tim Jackson)
In Defense of Truth as Participation: A Process Philosophical Proposal
zhlédnutí 2,7KPřed 3 měsíci
In Defense of Truth as Participation: A Process Philosophical Proposal
Whitehead's Panprehensionism: A Feeling For Reality (dialogue with Tim Jackson
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Whitehead's Panprehensionism: A Feeling For Reality (dialogue with Tim Jackson
Descendental Philosophy and the Confrontation with Nihilism (dialogue with Roman Campolo)
zhlédnutí 1,8KPřed 4 měsíci
Descendental Philosophy and the Confrontation with Nihilism (dialogue with Roman Campolo)
Fantasy, Science, and Beauty in an Evolving Universe (dialogue with Tim Jackson)
zhlédnutí 1,1KPřed 4 měsíci
Fantasy, Science, and Beauty in an Evolving Universe (dialogue with Tim Jackson)
Agency and Perception in Whitehead and the Free Energy Principle (dialogue with Tim Jackson)
zhlédnutí 1,3KPřed 4 měsíci
Agency and Perception in Whitehead and the Free Energy Principle (dialogue with Tim Jackson)
Psychedelic Bardos and the Technological Society (dialogue with Roman Campolo)
zhlédnutí 1,7KPřed 5 měsíci
Psychedelic Bardos and the Technological Society (dialogue with Roman Campolo)
Whitehead and the Free Energy Principle: On the Physics and Metaphysics of Information
zhlédnutí 2,2KPřed 5 měsíci
Whitehead and the Free Energy Principle: On the Physics and Metaphysics of Information
Artificial Intelligence, Moral Imagination, and Spiritual Evolution (Dialogue with Roman Campolo)
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Artificial Intelligence, Moral Imagination, and Spiritual Evolution (Dialogue with Roman Campolo)
Dying to be Born (Dialogue with Roman Campolo)
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Dying to be Born (Dialogue with Roman Campolo)
Space, Time, and Religion in the Making (dialogue with Roman Campolo)
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Space, Time, and Religion in the Making (dialogue with Roman Campolo)
Merlin Sheldrake and Tim Jackson on the Art and Science of Improvisation
zhlédnutí 2KPřed 6 měsíci
Merlin Sheldrake and Tim Jackson on the Art and Science of Improvisation

Komentáře

  • @rosemariebarrientos

    I never tire of watching (and re-watching) your videos. Thank you.

  • @jaydenwilson9522
    @jaydenwilson9522 Před 2 dny

    Geometry is the FATHER of Mythomagics. All Mythomagics is, is either an Abstract Geometry or a Dynamical Geometry with respect to Time. They've been writing Science Fiction with numerology and taking us all for a ride.

  • @somebodyghosting6759

    What’s the best way to get in contact with you?

  • @nupraptorthementalist3306

    R.I.P.

  • @andrewbowen2837
    @andrewbowen2837 Před 5 dny

    How odd that where I became familiar with technology as an extension of the mind is from archaeology, not even a pure cognitive field. This was a theme back in the early 2000s for a small niche of European archeologists like Lambros Malifouris, Carl Knappett, John Sutton, and others, based on the philosophy of Andy Clark

  • @monicaarcher7107
    @monicaarcher7107 Před 6 dny

    I feel so lucky to be able to listen to this... having access to a brilliant mind / very thoughtful and careful, clear teacher through the internet. in my sitting room. An amazing thing.

  • @real_pattern
    @real_pattern Před 6 dny

    randomness can be any pattern, and it has nothing to do with weirdness relative to an alleged non-random pattern. it confounds any pattern we ever found in data; it is entirely possible that all events/occurrences/happenings are brutely random. so no, it does make sense. what's far harder to plausify is all the speculative metaphysics of non-random chains of causation, relation, dependence, fundamentality, governance relations, virtual & potential & possible & platonic structures... now that's wildly implausible and lacking empirically meaningful motivation. we'll never be able to escape the randomness confound.

  • @real_pattern
    @real_pattern Před 6 dny

    if bare wavefunction realism is speculative metaphysics, then all this vague gesturing at 'the virtual, the possible, the potential' realms is speculative metaphysics to the power of infinity.

    • @tnwjackson
      @tnwjackson Před 5 dny

      “Speculative metaphysics” isn’t a pejorative term, it merely denotes a form of thought which goes beyond the domain of scientific inquiry in order to propose an hypothesis about the fundamental nature of things. It should, of course, maintain a relationship with science, i.e. maintain a consistency with our scientific understanding, including a nuanced appreciation of its fallibility. We’re just drawing attention to the fact that many worlds is speculative metaphysics because it is sometimes presented as if it’s “just the facts”.

    • @real_pattern
      @real_pattern Před 5 dny

      @@tnwjackson yeah i agree, i don't wanna defend any kind of metaphysics that's 'stronger' than OSR as laid out by ladyman et al. in 'every thing must go'. that said, i don't think that the most relevant, most credible experts who defend wavefunction realism portray their view as just the facts.

    • @real_pattern
      @real_pattern Před 3 dny

      @@tnwjackson also, just remembered; in a recent discussion, robinson erhardt asked sean carroll--probably the most popular popularizer and proponent of wavefunction realism--whether the wavefunction is representational, or simply *is* what exists. sean's answer was that it's not a very sensible question, as he doesn't know what the difference is and then made a strong(ly appealing) anti-metaphysical claim, that reality is sui generis; it is just reality, just what it is. quoting bas van fraassen: "metaphysical theories purport to interpret what we already understand to be the case. but to interpret is to interpret into something, something granted as already understood. paradoxically, metaphysicians interpret what we initially understand into something hardly anyone understands, and then insist that we cannot do without that. to any incredulous listener they'll say: construct a better alternative! but that just signals their invincible presumption that metaphysics is the sine qua non of understanding."

  • @76Terrell
    @76Terrell Před 6 dny

    Would it be inaccurate to call it Panhensionism? Might roll of the tongue better, but either way, I appreciate the goal of reframing pansychism and enjoyed the discussion!

  • @real_pattern
    @real_pattern Před 7 dny

    host: please consider using simpler, clearer language and less pseudo-profound onanistic logorrheic waffling. whiteheadian, vervaekean, thompsonian... zingers & buzzwords obscure, don't explicate. might be a cliché, but if you understand what they mean with these neologisms, you can probably explain that without using these terms. these zingers are annoying and frankly, unnecessary. their utility is mostly exhausted by propping up their marketability and memetic potential. it's not that you shouldn't use them at all, but rather that your sentences are contorted and torturously rife with these magic zingers AND way more often than not, you don't explain them. combined with your relaxed speaking, you just sound like a guru or a charismatic cult leader or an enchanted cult member that's speaking gibberish, just riffing under the spell of vacuous memes and exalted experiences, gesturing at 'there's definitely something else!'

  • @sgharms
    @sgharms Před 7 dny

    Really nice treatment. I learned Hegel under Bob Solomon at Texas and you capture some of the playful bounce Hegel can be read with.

  • @dltooley
    @dltooley Před 7 dny

    The “golden age of autodidacts” - love it. I hope yours truly is a good, golden, example.

  • @3lc0n_CodeName1
    @3lc0n_CodeName1 Před 7 dny

    He is not delayed, we are.

  • @dltooley
    @dltooley Před 7 dny

    On the forms of computation have you considered so called deep learning, from (successful) AI?

  • @Kiyozaemon
    @Kiyozaemon Před 7 dny

    You have no idea how important the work you are doing is going to be to humanity in this century and the ones to come. Please do not relent!

  • @tonybg1985
    @tonybg1985 Před 8 dny

    You guys should interview Yogi

  • @tminusmat
    @tminusmat Před 8 dny

    Someone brought up quantum computing in a really important way. A computer system that collapsed reality by using our collective consciousness would feel like it was our choice in a deep way. I mean, if the current limited and gated applications r directed toward transcendental processes, like RR. Not random but precognitive processes. Like instantly, someone who has never played baseball is capable of hitting a 100mph fastball with regularity. That would require a tech leap that supports a massive integration into cyborgness we would ethically have a hard time with societally.

  • @johnvervaeke
    @johnvervaeke Před 8 dny

    The production of random hypothesis is a useless proposal. The number of such proposals is uncountably vast. Purely arbitrary generation would doom any system to endlessly useless proposals until dies. Human creativity does not demonstrate pure randomness. In fact, it looks like human beings cannot generate randomness. The problem of relevance realization is finding something between the arbitrary and the algorithmic which are both combinatorially explosive. Simply invoking intuition is not explaining anything. It is pointing to something that needs explanation. All the work I have done on insight is about this. Invoking chance in evolution is misleading. The main proposal of RR theory is that it operates according to the same principles as biological evolution. Evolution is the codependence of variation ( which is not completely random but mutation, genetic drift, autocatalytic closure, etc., within biological constraint) and selection. The point about a needed ontology is well placed. I have been making an argument that once RR is grounded in 4E cog. sci. ( as we did in the paper) we can see that such 4E cog. sci. is grounded in a Neoplatonic ontology. All the work on transcendent naturalism is about this. One can only do so much in one paper. Happy to talk with the two of you about all of this is you would like. Finally, gratitude for the respect and care shown in this critique.

    • @Footnotes2Plato
      @Footnotes2Plato Před 7 dny

      Thanks, John. I'll let Tim respond to these points in more depth. I know there have been some attempts to formalize Peirce's version of abduction, but at least when understood in the broader context of his metaphysics (including agapism and tychism, as Tim mentions, but also synechism), I do not think it is Turing-machine computable. Sure, it can be partially simulated (as you suggest in the paper with regard to relevance realization, as well). But that is not the same thing as instantiating it. I've sketched some further remarks in writing in response to this paper that try to bring RR into dialogue with Whitehead. If you're curious: open.substack.com/pub/footnotes2plato/p/reflections-on-the-naturalization?r=2at642&showWelcomeOnShare=true

    • @johnvervaeke
      @johnvervaeke Před 7 dny

      @@Footnotes2Plato Thanks Matt!

    • @tnwjackson
      @tnwjackson Před 7 dny

      Hi John, thanks for engaging. I agree a “purely random” hypothesis would be useless. A human, like any physical system, is vastly constrained-enabled by the environment (diachronically and synchronically) it’s embedded within, so the notion of “pure randomness” doesn’t make any sense (and hopefully i didn’t use that phrase). I have a slightly different way of thinking about the “arbitrary”, however. This has a lot to do with tychism and the way “mutation” is conceptualised within evolutionary biology (poorly, often, there’s a lot to unpack here). Suffice it to say (for now) that this is also what Peirce is gesturing towards in his “Neglected Argument for the Existence of God”, which is a paper on abduction as intuition, and why a more or less “arbitrary” (not his term) conjecture still has enough aptness in it to ground an investigation. It is, of course, the way in which the “arbitrary” elicits a response from the embedding environment that enables the establishment of a preliminary “grip” (this how selection stabilises and leads to the amplification of novelty in molecular biology). Peirce calls abduction “the weakest form of argument”, just that which is required to get an argument going. It is the relationship between the “indeterminate” and the pre-actualised world into which it emerges, that canalises the indeterminate leading to a definite outcome. Whitehead’s depiction of the genesis of an actual event also describes this. Incidentally, it’s why Strawson’s “pessimistic argument” re: free will is false (it relies on a notion of “pure” indeterminacy). But I appreciate it’s a very subtle issue and my own take on it is precisely something Matt and I slightly differ about - I also differ with Peirce. I also might not have spoken felicitously at all points in a free flowing discussion on the subject. I do understand your work on Relevance Realisation to be addressing precisely this issue, and I think Peircean abduction is simpatico with it. In both cases, I think the relationship that has been noticed with natural selection is key. And again whilst “random” is an abused term in biology, there is a need for a nuanced handling of the “arbitrary” change (undirected towards a specific outcome) and the contingent outcome. It is the way in which the arbitrary becomes the directed, the pre-logical the logical, the irrational the rational, that is the key theoretical (though it’s much more than this in our living experience of creativity) point. Matt is correct to point out that abduction is not formalisable in the sense of “computable”, it is only schematisable (we can include it in an operational diagrammatic representation). This is why logicians wrung their hands over it and ended up bastardising it with the (self-defeating) notion of an “inference to the best explanation”. I’d love to discuss all this with you in more detail.

    • @tnwjackson
      @tnwjackson Před 7 dny

      The primary concern I have with the Neoplatonic ontology would be whether it posits something additional that requires explanation, as in a hylomorphic scheme. As Matt and I have been discussing in other videos, if the virtual is shaped in relation to the actual, then this issue can be avoided (as Whitehead, Simondon, Deleuze, and others attempt to show).

    • @johnvervaeke
      @johnvervaeke Před 7 dny

      @@tnwjackson Yes I agree. A post nominalism Neoplatonism is needed.

  • @moogzoliver
    @moogzoliver Před 8 dny

    Explains alot about how my braincells perceive my existence to provide a syncronous feeling of self as a unit system.

  • @szefszefow7562
    @szefszefow7562 Před 8 dny

    I'm sorry but the claim that Wittgenstein was a linguistic idealist of aby sort is quite wrong. Of course you can call him anti realist in metaphysics, but that would be misleading. The real world is out there for him, its just the world that we actually live our lives in, not the world of metaphysical theories. Though what Rorty did to wittgenstein and what he said himself is not my concern, perhaps you are right about him. Of course I'm speaking about "2nd Wittgenstein". BTW its important to note that while Tractatus was important to the Vienna Circle, Wittgenstein wasnt in any way a logical positivist. You dont suggest that, but people watching might get confused.

    • @Footnotes2Plato
      @Footnotes2Plato Před 8 dny

      Fair comment. I don’t remember exactly what may have said but I had Rorty and Rorty’s Wittgenstein in mind. The point of the “linguistic idealist” quip, though, is not to say Rorty or Wittgenstein don’t believe there is a world out there lol. The point is that Rorty doesn’t think it makes any sense to try to refer to a world outside of language.

    • @szefszefow7562
      @szefszefow7562 Před 6 dny

      I guess you are right. Cool stuff, whitehead is rather overlooked in philosophical discussion today.

  • @cheri238
    @cheri238 Před 8 dny

    Thank you both.

  • @projectmalus
    @projectmalus Před 8 dny

    Interesting to think about collective action not requiring a person to perform that action, and the understanding of why to do it pulling those that do it consciously from where? The future? The great human oversoul? A statistical appreciation of reality would allow compromise. Yet I can see where that goes wrong, to collect a butterfly and stick it to a board doesn't seem to matter statistically since there are many of them. The information can be collected, a collective object but not moving like the collective action, which is important if the moving not the objects are the being, but the knowledge can be reengaged or reapplied into being again (folding these static objects back in) so a collective free will possible. Collectors who share, and collectors who don't, individual free choice.

  • @angelahiebert3300
    @angelahiebert3300 Před 8 dny

    I wonder what Michael Levin at Tufts would think to learn that Whitehead talks about every particle being a society. Levin emphasizes that cells are societies.

  • @dadsonworldwide3238

    When read shackspeare or in that time searching the roots of civilization and alphabetical exodus they begin noticing moral realism . Thermodynamical systems being judged with equal measure.. Steam engine is gonna gain alot from the social mindset just like how are all on line now going back to find out what 1700s-1800s esoterica America already learned lol

  • @dadsonworldwide3238

    Richard finneman Prayer logic would've asked specific question about steam engine specific system and predicted a specific industrial revolution. Mosaic subjective complexities within code of measure dug out. Prayer logic whataboutism platonic macro micro cast systeming Curses blessings Socrates face value idealistic physical. Indecension nilhisms hulucinations etc etc etc You know anthropic copying newton does from the sepretist puritans dacarte did he couldn't help put the dualistic European spin on it leaving soul agency for hamiltonian to anthromorphize . Platonic macro micro choked it out sepretated ancient face value knowledge blocking the ability to dig out subjective complexities.. Subjective complexities is what everyone will denounce moms to fight and save platonic or everything physicalism naturalism worshiping anthromorphized Curses and blessings addition subtraction these idealistic forces faiths & physical works are all emerging energetic actors in us that we prescribe onto the courts ,economic weights and measure

  • @dadsonworldwide3238

    Because my ancestors took the keys to the cosmos textualism methodology objectivism specifically encoding king James English plus usa by design built anchored to one day code future beast of burden shining capital on the means of production it's tuned & weighted for self drivers you name it built for it. Usa is the laboratory based on 1700s-1800s esoterica America mosaic triality of self canvas where Ben Franklin father refused to send Ben to learn under the European educations abstract Euclidean minds good memorization skills tend to be niave passive etc. Of course Prussian used it for recruiting soldiers originally Obviously, 1900s structuralism call to arms platonic posterity in America the last 100 years as we granted liberal power to gov/ higher education deterministic simplicity and unification pushing the infinite sums of complexity upon many different diciplines and personal actors of response. 20 yr old Cannon fodder necessary evils to everything physicalism class transfer wealth push complexity on free flow of information likeminded word. We recruited army's of mathematicians turned schools into recruitment by design antithetical to enriching young minds to better navigate the world. Censorship of all things pragmatic common sense Christian objectivism proper. This would say no magic Matter huxlys panspermia no single orgin mud puddle struck by lightning space is a bottleneck.. It says astronomical energy density on earth molecular structures in a epoch we call cambrian explosion of life diversity very strongly grounded indentefiers.. Population species ordering to radical & extreme We did prenticious clocklike prescribed realism over anti realism to further over time lines of measure grand unified babylonian evolutionary cosmogony

  • @patternsinchaos
    @patternsinchaos Před 9 dny

    Renesance men. 🧐

  • @thenutballnews
    @thenutballnews Před 9 dny

    Computer industry putting stock in people rather than truth? History will most probably (Heisenberg joke) reveal that the quest for quantum computers was undertaken, ironically, because of faith in a particular interpretation of QM that turned out to be incorrect. And then maybe they can argue wether or not we're just living in a verse where they are not possible yet. Thank you gentlemen.

  • @InterfaceGuhy
    @InterfaceGuhy Před 9 dny

    Abduction - Relevance Deduction - Realization Induction - Recursion Transduction - Relation

  • @bonnittaroy
    @bonnittaroy Před 9 dny

    Great conversation!

  • @grahammoffat9752
    @grahammoffat9752 Před 9 dny

    That coffee kicked in hard!! Ooft Tim on a total tear up through that opening half hour. Matt didn’t stand a chance with his slowly reflective GnT. Good work however…….fascinating discussion.

    • @tnwjackson
      @tnwjackson Před 9 dny

      😂

    • @Michael-nt1me
      @Michael-nt1me Před 9 dny

      Thank you both for sharing. How and when might the ...random, reactive, reasoning, and reconciliatory.... relevances be realized across the various ...sensory-organo-motor.... developments of lifeforms on earth? Considering various ...entity, relationship, and transformability.... modelings in virtual ecologic computational

    • @dadsonworldwide3238
      @dadsonworldwide3238 Před 9 dny

      ​@@Michael-nt1me You know the issue with time and light we have has us going in circles just like the ancient world just through new avenues. The actual triangulated judgment of thermodynamical systems must be that we have energy density z/x enistien measure of time into hamiltonian occelating feilds and waves which is correlated idealistic time Is so sensible yet unseen to the dualistic y axis mind. When we look down upon 1 position newton 2nd einstein 3rd hiesenbergs approach of photon looks like any other measure reforms or concave just we see over and over on scale. That 3 lines of measure has us math mapping dark matter spirits in the sky with methusela equation monds theory lazy light on deck lol Darwins dualistic umbrella & population species forcing us into like a marduk basisn mind model situation..

    • @projectmalus
      @projectmalus Před 8 dny

      @@dadsonworldwide3238 awesome, like that math mapping. Pantograph math? the skewing relational of parallelograms as higher dimensional.

  • @tnwjackson
    @tnwjackson Před 9 dny

    Oops. My slogan is “open-ended evolution does not *begin with* life, open-ended evolution *enables* life” - just in case anyone is confused by my slip of the tongue just prior to the 29 minute mark.

  • @Canadian_Eh_I
    @Canadian_Eh_I Před 9 dny

    weird, I just saw your video come up on youtube notifications, forgot who you were and why I even subbed. Im wearing nearly the same shirt and have a goa tee also, brown hair and a thin brown mustache

  • @waxon2
    @waxon2 Před 11 dny

    "the Global Ecological Crisis...(as)...a crisis of human consciousness, that the root of that external decimation that we see happening in the Earth, is found within the human mind". Brilliant, and so true. Great starting point -- I'm hooked.

  • @rajeshtandon7611
    @rajeshtandon7611 Před 12 dny

    Great gyan

  • @projectmalus
    @projectmalus Před 14 dny

    At the end, mentorship and alleviating the financial stress are two solutions that come together in the pay forward community where graduates are welcome guests (philosophers in residence) give talks in a local space to mentor, travel or go online to be mentored and have a decent, affordable home. By engaging in the pay forward the philosopher is embedded in a virtuous system. Also a new political level possibly, between the family and the municipal. Important because climate change events will focus governments and cost lots, which leaves an untrustworthy big business sector more in charge. A really agile conversation, thank you. More!

  • @arendtibben772
    @arendtibben772 Před 15 dny

    This conversation, although extremely interesting, draws me toward the Ouroboros. I wonder what Ludwig Wittgenstein would say about this conversation . Moreover Nietzsche drive theory might be a beginning. However enjoyed the conversation

  • @angelahiebert3300
    @angelahiebert3300 Před 15 dny

    I truly can't thank you enough for this video. You are giving shape, giving voice, to a level of meaning that I feel I want to express, but find almost inexpressible. I have known from early childhood that beauty was the great underlying thought of nature. Bringing that thought to the surface, giving it a frame. with its attendant arising thoughts, developing a relationship to it, is my life's best work. I am 85, so that gives you a context for my words, and for my gratitude.

  • @12th-House
    @12th-House Před 15 dny

    excellent !

  • @FlavioLanfranconi
    @FlavioLanfranconi Před 15 dny

    On communication of thought: There is a realy great insight from training martial arts: Teachers will often train their students "at their own level" (the teachers level), forgetting that they themselves had to go through a whole history of training, in order to be able to do and understand what they are trying to teach their students.... Similarly I think many thinkers try, in discussions with other thinkers, to present only the fruits of their latest thoughts instead of conveying the feeling of the whole argument. Which makes it impossible to understand (actually understand, empathically) what they are trying to convey. 😕 I think true understanding must be felt. It can't be merely logically deduced. Which is why I truly appreciate and admire these (recurring) discussions with different people!👍🏼 Thank you for sharing!💕

  • @FlavioLanfranconi
    @FlavioLanfranconi Před 15 dny

    On pluralism: The more inclusive perspective will end up being the more powerful ("dominant" in evolution) one. (No?) So plurality might be the driver of progress, since it challenges the status quo to become even more inclusive...? Presuming anyone is interested in integration and not just analysis... (as it seams you two suggest is what's happening in universities!??) So let's do this integrative philosophy!?!😊👍🏼 Who's on board?😄

  • @gnomefuel
    @gnomefuel Před 15 dny

    running into two folks like yall irl would be like stumbling into a unicorn talking with a gnome without the aid of psychedelics, glad i am able to observe these rare encounters

  • @user-xm7vd7bs3p
    @user-xm7vd7bs3p Před 16 dny

    The concept of a toroidal shaped universe seems to be a " Theory of everything". It gives us a map to test our ideas on everything from quantum physics to biology, and everything in between.

  • @user-xm7vd7bs3p
    @user-xm7vd7bs3p Před 16 dny

    Formsapes

  • @Forward_Escape_Solutions

    well done sir! You made me want to reexamine Hegel now that you laid out the path

  • @danielpierce88
    @danielpierce88 Před 16 dny

    This is absurd; nonsensical.

  • @projectmalus
    @projectmalus Před 17 dny

    around 35 min Matt says knowledge is sacred and it seems understanding is sacred, where information moves to knowledge then understanding. Knowledge by itself isn't tied to action as an autopoetic expression, which reduces trust, so I can trust someone's skills but not their person, which makes their skills irrelevant. It's possible that information is sacred also: I'll think about knowledge, thanks. The thing about knowledge is that it can guide one thru two settings for compromise, where one compromises in the short term but not in the long term because that locks one into a lower level of perception. One uses pain killers as needed as opposed to an addict, and knowing of the addictive qualities helps avoid traps. Similar tricky mind mechanisms hold information in triggers that move one onto the philosophical silk road, perhaps. Past knowledge to understanding as peaks and valleys instead of a flat ontology, since it opens up and follows what's there. also ritual as allowing the sacred, where the impact of the knowledge is a switch that has a certain threshold to cross, and this jump causes ripples that need time to subside or will corrupt the harmonics in a most discombobulating way. Switch bounce, avoided by allowance as intelligent as in the attention span.

  • @jayfarina4890
    @jayfarina4890 Před 18 dny

    Steiner goes through the whole whitehead experience in his gospel of luke. Materialists understand things incorrectly. If you TRULY want to understand our reality steiner is the ONLY authority. He was gifted the highest degree of seership. Your comparing materialistic abstraction in whitehead and true concrete reality in steiner. You must FEEL steiners work and not simply intellectually digest it. Good work shining a light on him. Steiner was a gift erased from history by Ahriman and his cohorts.