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Videos of Australian trains and railways, focusing on Victorian freight, passenger and heritage trains.
Queensland's Cane Trains - Mulgrave Mill Part 3
Queensland has a fascinating network of sugar cane railways stretching from Bundaberg in the South through to Mossman in the North. 17 sugar mills have railway networks with over 4000km of track across the state. All the mills use 2ft gauge track, except for Pioneer Mill which uses 3ft 6in gauge track.
Locomotives are diesel hydraulic, with ages ranging from 70 years old to brand new (2023 built). Some locomotives have been converted from former Queensland Rail 3ft 6in DH class, or New South Wales Government Railways 4ft 8 1/2in 47 class.
Wagons are unbraked and some trains operate with a remote controlled brake van at the rear of the train to provide additional braking force. Trains can be up to 1km long, consisting of up to 200 wagons with a weight of approximately 1000 tons.
Some trains require two crew members however many locomotives have been converted to driver only operating and can be switched to remote control operation for shunting.
This video contains footage taken in August 2023 of Mulgrave Mill, which is located in Gordonvale just south of Cairns. Gordonvale Mill is owned by MSF Sugar.
The mill utilises a mixture of Com-Eng, Clyde, Baldwin and Walkers locomotives.
Trains shown in this video are as follows:
1. 'Meringa' runs alongside Leumann Rd with a rake of empty bins.
2. 'Meerawa' runs alongside Moller Rd with a rake of empty bins. Note the length of the grass across the tracks.
3. After leaving the empty bins on the mainline and attaching to a rake of full bins from the siding, 'Meerawa' continues along the line to Vohland Rd. The full bins were left here and the loco returned light engine to position the empty bins in the now vacant siding.
4. 'Mulgrave' (ex Queensland Rail DH31, rebuilt 1995) runs light engine through the mill yard at Gordonvale, before attaching to a rake of empty bins and departing for the North.
5. After Mulgrave had departed, 'Meringa' arrived light engine.
Locomotives are diesel hydraulic, with ages ranging from 70 years old to brand new (2023 built). Some locomotives have been converted from former Queensland Rail 3ft 6in DH class, or New South Wales Government Railways 4ft 8 1/2in 47 class.
Wagons are unbraked and some trains operate with a remote controlled brake van at the rear of the train to provide additional braking force. Trains can be up to 1km long, consisting of up to 200 wagons with a weight of approximately 1000 tons.
Some trains require two crew members however many locomotives have been converted to driver only operating and can be switched to remote control operation for shunting.
This video contains footage taken in August 2023 of Mulgrave Mill, which is located in Gordonvale just south of Cairns. Gordonvale Mill is owned by MSF Sugar.
The mill utilises a mixture of Com-Eng, Clyde, Baldwin and Walkers locomotives.
Trains shown in this video are as follows:
1. 'Meringa' runs alongside Leumann Rd with a rake of empty bins.
2. 'Meerawa' runs alongside Moller Rd with a rake of empty bins. Note the length of the grass across the tracks.
3. After leaving the empty bins on the mainline and attaching to a rake of full bins from the siding, 'Meerawa' continues along the line to Vohland Rd. The full bins were left here and the loco returned light engine to position the empty bins in the now vacant siding.
4. 'Mulgrave' (ex Queensland Rail DH31, rebuilt 1995) runs light engine through the mill yard at Gordonvale, before attaching to a rake of empty bins and departing for the North.
5. After Mulgrave had departed, 'Meringa' arrived light engine.
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Queensland's Cane Trains - Mossman Mill Part 3
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Queensland has a fascinating network of sugar cane railways stretching from Bundaberg in the South through to Mossman in the North. 17 sugar mills have railway networks with over 4000km of track across the state. All the mills use 2ft gauge track, except for Pioneer Mill which uses 3ft 6in gauge track. Locomotives are diesel hydraulic, with ages ranging from 70 years old to brand new (2023 buil...
Queensland's Cane Trains - Mackay Region Part 3
zhlédnutí 747Před 14 dny
Queensland has a fascinating network of sugar cane railways stretching from Bundaberg in the South through to Mossman in the North. 17 sugar mills have railway networks with over 4000km of track across the state. All the mills use 2ft gauge track, except for Pioneer Mill which uses 3ft 6in gauge track. Locomotives are diesel hydraulic, with ages ranging from 70 years old to brand new (2023 buil...
Queensland's Cane Trains - Macknade Mill Part 3
zhlédnutí 253Před 21 dnem
Queensland has a fascinating network of sugar cane railways stretching from Bundaberg in the South through to Mossman in the North. 17 sugar mills have railway networks with over 4000km of track across the state. All the mills use 2ft gauge track, except for Pioneer Mill which uses 3ft 6in gauge track. Locomotives are diesel hydraulic, with ages ranging from 70 years old to brand new (2023 buil...
Queensland's Cane Trains - Invicta Mill (Giru) Part 3
zhlédnutí 847Před 28 dny
Queensland has a fascinating network of sugar cane railways stretching from Bundaberg in the South through to Mossman in the North. 17 sugar mills have railway networks with over 4000km of track across the state. All the mills use 2ft gauge track, except for Pioneer Mill which uses 3ft 6in gauge track. Locomotives are diesel hydraulic, with ages ranging from 70 years old to brand new (2023 buil...
Australian Trains - Diverted Indian Pacific at Cootamundra
zhlédnutí 151Před měsícem
In late 2023, the Indian Pacific was diverted via Melbourne due to flooding it's usual route to Adelaide via Broken Hill. Here we see NR27 and NR29 leading a lengthy consist through Cootamundra at sunset. The train was travelling at a sedate 25km/h after running through Jindalee on the 'Up' line to overtake a Pacific National grain train.
Queensland's Cane Trains - Mulgrave Mill Part 2
zhlédnutí 434Před měsícem
Queensland has a fascinating network of sugar cane railways stretching from Bundaberg in the South through to Mossman in the North. 17 sugar mills have railway networks with over 4000km of track across the state. All the mills use 2ft gauge track, except for Pioneer Mill which uses 3ft 6in gauge track. Locomotives are diesel hydraulic, with ages ranging from 70 years old to brand new (2023 buil...
Queensland's Cane Trains - Victoria Mill Part 2
zhlédnutí 416Před měsícem
Queensland has a fascinating network of sugar cane railways stretching from Bundaberg in the South through to Mossman in the North. 17 sugar mills have railway networks with over 4000km of track across the state. All the mills use 2ft gauge track, except for Pioneer Mill which uses 3ft 6in gauge track. Locomotives are diesel hydraulic, with ages ranging from 70 years old to brand new (2023 buil...
Queensland's Cane Trains - Tully Mill Part 2
zhlédnutí 284Před měsícem
Queensland has a fascinating network of sugar cane railways stretching from Bundaberg in the South through to Mossman in the North. 17 sugar mills have railway networks with over 4000km of track across the state. All the mills use 2ft gauge track, except for Pioneer Mill which uses 3ft 6in gauge track. Locomotives are diesel hydraulic, with ages ranging from 70 years old to brand new (2023 buil...
Queensland's Cane Trains - Proserpine Mill Part 2
zhlédnutí 235Před 2 měsíci
Queensland has a fascinating network of sugar cane railways stretching from Bundaberg in the South through to Mossman in the North. 17 sugar mills have railway networks with over 4000km of track across the state. All the mills use 2ft gauge track, except for Pioneer Mill which uses 3ft 6in gauge track. Locomotives are diesel hydraulic, with ages ranging from 70 years old to brand new (2023 buil...
Queensland's Cane Trains - Plane Creek Mill Part 2
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Queensland has a fascinating network of sugar cane railways stretching from Bundaberg in the South through to Mossman in the North. 17 sugar mills have railway networks with over 4000km of track across the state. All the mills use 2ft gauge track, except for Pioneer Mill which uses 3ft 6in gauge track. Locomotives are diesel hydraulic, with ages ranging from 70 years old to brand new (2023 buil...
Queensland's Cane Trains - Pioneer Mill Part 2
zhlédnutí 349Před 2 měsíci
Queensland has a fascinating network of sugar cane railways stretching from Bundaberg in the South through to Mossman in the North. 17 sugar mills have railway networks with over 4000km of track across the state. All the mills use 2ft gauge track, except for Pioneer Mill which uses 3ft 6in gauge track. Locomotives are diesel hydraulic, with ages ranging from 70 years old to brand new (2023 buil...
Queensland's Cane Trains - Macknade Mill Part 2
zhlédnutí 814Před 2 měsíci
Queensland has a fascinating network of sugar cane railways stretching from Bundaberg in the South through to Mossman in the North. 17 sugar mills have railway networks with over 4000km of track across the state. All the mills use 2ft gauge track, except for Pioneer Mill which uses 3ft 6in gauge track. Locomotives are diesel hydraulic, with ages ranging from 70 years old to brand new (2023 buil...
Twin S Class Locos Hauling Grain on the Bendigo Line
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In the early hours of the morning, Southern Shorthaul Railroad's S312-S311 tackle the grades of the Bendigo Line with 20 loaded grain wagons from Mitiamo to Kensington Mill. The first shot was from the Railway Dam Road overpass near Elphinstone Tunnel, followed by Malmsbury, Macedon and Sunbury stations.
Queensland's Cane Trains - Invicta Mill (Giru) Part 2
zhlédnutí 236Před 3 měsíci
Queensland has a fascinating network of sugar cane railways stretching from Bundaberg in the South through to Mossman in the North. 17 sugar mills have railway networks with over 4000km of track across the state. All the mills use 2ft gauge track, except for Pioneer Mill which uses 3ft 6in gauge track. Locomotives are diesel hydraulic, with ages ranging from 70 years old to brand new (2023 buil...
Queensland's Cane Trains - Mossman Mill Part 2
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Queensland's Cane Trains - Mossman Mill Part 2
Queensland's Cane Trains - Mackay Region Part 2
zhlédnutí 484Před 3 měsíci
Queensland's Cane Trains - Mackay Region Part 2
Queensland's Cane Trains - Kalamia Mill Part 2
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Queensland's Cane Trains - Kalamia Mill Part 2
Queensland's Cane Trains - South Johnstone Mill Part 2
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Queensland's Cane Trains - South Johnstone Mill Part 2
Australian Trains - Triple R class Steam Locos to Seymour
zhlédnutí 945Před 4 měsíci
Australian Trains - Triple R class Steam Locos to Seymour
Queensland's Cane Trains - Proserpine Mill Part 1
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Queensland's Cane Trains - Proserpine Mill Part 1
Queensland's Cane Trains - Plane Creek Part 1
zhlédnutí 422Před 4 měsíci
Queensland's Cane Trains - Plane Creek Part 1
Queensland's Cane Trains - Inkerman Mill
zhlédnutí 95Před 5 měsíci
Queensland's Cane Trains - Inkerman Mill
Queensland's Cane Trains - Mackay Region Part 1
zhlédnutí 740Před 5 měsíci
Queensland's Cane Trains - Mackay Region Part 1
Queensland's Cane Trains - Pioneer Mill Part 1
zhlédnutí 254Před 5 měsíci
Queensland's Cane Trains - Pioneer Mill Part 1
Queensland's Cane Trains - Mossman Mill Part 1
zhlédnutí 675Před 5 měsíci
Queensland's Cane Trains - Mossman Mill Part 1
Queensland's Cane Trains - Mulgrave Mill Part 1
zhlédnutí 392Před 6 měsíci
Queensland's Cane Trains - Mulgrave Mill Part 1
Queensland's Cane Trains - Tully Mill Part 1
zhlédnutí 396Před 6 měsíci
Queensland's Cane Trains - Tully Mill Part 1
Queensland's Cane Trains - Kalamia Mill Part 1
zhlédnutí 185Před 6 měsíci
Queensland's Cane Trains - Kalamia Mill Part 1
Queensland's Cane Trains - Macknade Mill Part 1
zhlédnutí 328Před 6 měsíci
Queensland's Cane Trains - Macknade Mill Part 1
Great video, always good seeing these Sugar Trains!
Thank you!
Getting ready for 2024 season doing a little bit of training with the new people
A nother awesome video Me Old Mate. 🤙
Thanks, glad you liked it.
L___I___K___E________Fantastic Video! BIG LIKE and Thumbs Up!
Thank you! Plenty more cane train videos coming, particularly from the Mackay Region.
Great video, Hello from the east coast of south africa, we too have a huge sugar industry here, years ago most raw sugar cane were send by trains from the farms to the mill. Sadly most by road now! There one Huge Sugar Mill here were they have sugar trains!
Thank you!
Interesting video. Greetings from Poland. 👍
Thank you!
That's a *VERY* faded rainbow!
Another great trip on the cane rails Sir! I went through one of the mills in Mackay , they are very cool places but I don't think I'd like to work in one..LOL Cheers Gregg.
Thanks Gregg! Yes they're interesting places, lots going on! Tully Mill still offers tours to the public. I certainly wouldn't complain if my workplace smelt like a sugar mill 😉
@@NR54trailerail I went through Tully as well, was a great tour and the places do smell like a steam train in lollie factory with fresh mown grass! The grease and sticky crap everywhere would be a bit much after a while..LOL but they do smell good for sure! 🙂
Great video mate! Its cool to see videos from work 😄
Thanks 😁
We were just in Australia a month ago from Canada and when we traveled outside of Airlie Beach and noticed the rails along the road side and weaving through the fields we were quite struck by them. We were not sure at first if they were still active and we came across one of the mills and realized they still were. As we went further north to Cairns it really became apparent the network was quite extensive. This video just popped up in my feed and I am glad it did. Answered a lot of the questions I was still pondering. My first thought when I saw the gauge was that it reminded me of the old sugar cane train (now used to haul tourists) that runs through the Caribbean Island of St. Kitts, then I put 2 and 2 together when we realized it was sugar fields we were driving through. Here in Canada most of our sugar comes from beets.
Glad you found the video! Plenty more up on my channel of the different mill networks in Queensland. The tracks near Airlie Beach would have been part of Proserpine Mill's network. It's a shame you didn't get to see any of the trains in action. The cane crushing season normally runs from June to December, outside of that there are few movements on the cane networks - normally just track maintenance trains and cane bin transfers from the sidings in the fields to the workshops for maintenance. The networks throughout the fields are very extensive. It's one of the things that makes the cane railways unique, but can also make them a challenge to chase as there are tracks everywhere!
Some great shots in this one Sir! DO like those bogie bins and mini knuckle couplers! They run some long rakes at this Mill! Thanks for posting. Gregg 🙂
Thanks Gregg! A few of them would have been up towards 1km long. It's a lot of weight for just a loco and brake van!
@@NR54trailerail They are tough little buggers, and far more interesting than the "Narrow" gauge stuff up here on the mainline! Gregg .
Still loving these Sir! I do like the bogie bins over the two axle variety...though the short 2 axle bins are pretty cool in a full rake behind a pair of 3 axle locos! Thanks again! Gregg 🙂
Thanks Gregg!
As someone that used to live in Mackay I love seeing the good old cane trains from the Whitsundays aswell. Thanks for this awesome video 😊👍
Thank you, glad you enjoyed it.
Nice
Thank you!
Nice
Thank you 😊
Some nice wheel slips at the start there! Thanks again for posting these cool critters! Cheers Gregg.
Thanks Gregg!
Great sounds Sir! Worth getting up at sparrows for that one! Cheers Gregg.
Thanks Gregg!
There seems too be several designs of brake wagons, some are bogie and the one @7:48 had it's wheels coupled as if it had previously been a locomotive. Hi from NZ, Anthony
Hey Anthony, yes I believe the brake van with coupled wheels was a repurposed cane locomotive. I'm not sure of the history of the bogie brake vans. Cheers, Shaun.
Pioneer Mill, the only sugar mill in Australia, that uses the 3ft 6-inch gauge for there loco's
Hello from Yankland! (The US) I find these diminutive trains delightful and fascinating! Your video work on these is wonderful! Thanks for sharing with us. What is the wagon normally at the rear of the train with an engine running and a flashing beacon?
Thank you for the feedback! The wagon at the back of the train is a brake van (controlled remotely from the locomotive), all the cane bins are unbraked so the brake vans provide extra braking force for the longer trains and on steep grades.
@@NR54trailerail That is great info. Once again, thanks for sharing your work! Will stop by again.
This is your best yet I think sir! The dual 060 combo's are my favourite, and I caught a few of them on my visit back in 2014. They look tough and cool and having the side rods gives them animation. Catching the wheelslips was great ...as you wouldn't get on other bogie style locos! Was that a heay train or grass on the rails? The bogie bins are cool as well...nice to see them catching on in the cane fields. Thanks again for catching the "Cane Critters". Gregg.
Thanks Gregg! They're pretty cool units. I think the wheelslip was due to a heavy load and dew on the rails - the sun hadn't been up long enough to dry everything out. The locos had a bit of touble pulling the bins out of the siding initially as well. They certainly pile the cane up in the bins!
Thanks for sharing - I'm from the UK and just love these sugar cane networks
Thanks! Plenty more videos to come.
I'm from the States but are you guys in some sort of drought? Usually a lot of the other sugarcane trains I've seen everything is green.
Kalamia mill is in the Burdekin region - they burn all their cane prior to harvesting so the cane is black when it's loaded onto the trains.
They're an impressive sight too see 👀 all the time
Who does not like puffing steam locomotive 😮😅😊
LOL
When was this?
It's in the description. July 12th 2015.
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Just a note - the loco Jourama is not ex-M1851. Wilmar has been doing a rebuild program where a loco is sent away for rebuild, and another loco that has been rebuilt is sent back in its place. The current Jourama came from previously stored ex-NSWGR 7347. The original Jourama (ex M1851) is now loco 12 at Proserpine Mill
Thank you! I will update the caption. I'm a bit out of the loop with regards to cane locos and the loco list I am using is 20 years old, please let me know if you see any other captions that need amending 🙂
SOme great shots on this one Sir! The pacing was very cool and the bridge shot at the end was excellent...I sat there for ages during my visit and no trains! Thanks again for these videos. Cheers Gregg.
Thanks Gregg! I was very lucky to see the train over the bridge in the last shot, Marian Mill had a breakdown and wasn't crushing for most of the time I was in Mackay, they only fixed the mill and started running trains again on my last afternoon. I was lucky to be in the right place at the right time as I was about to head back to Farleigh Mill when the trains started running.
Fabulous footage, and that Y sounds glorious!
Thanks, glad you liked it!
Thanks for more of these crazy cute trains! When I was up there in 2014 , there were a lot of husband and wife teams on the locos..don't know if that's still the case? Gregg 🙂
Thanks Gregg! Not sure about that but there did seem to be a lot of female drivers.
Husband and wife scenarios are becoming rarer. They are flat out trying to keep the Drivers they have rostered on now.
@@kylegleeson8638 I imagine the RSU's are a contributing factor as well.
Not really, I enjoy RSUing, having a pay rise of 50 cents to do the job of two people is bull dust however. Its only a seasonal job and permanent positions at the mills are hard to come by. Todays culture requires everyone to have a mortgage they can't pay off and a seasonal job can't support that. Only RSU locos at Kalamia are the Northcote and Barratta. Invicta is the only mill that has a full fleet that is RSU capable. Being in a loco cab with another person is challenging, then coming home after a shift and seeing that person again would put a lot of strain on that relationship.
@@kylegleeson8638 Interesting Kyle! It used to be popular with "Semi" retirees, who would work the season and then travel. I guess they are becoming rare now ? Plus getting people that actually want to do a days work and not spend it looking at their phones is a big challenge also ...I deal with that every day! I'd love to do it ...six months off and the pay isn't nad from what I hear......If I had 2 good eyes I would seriously consider it! Cheers Gregg.
Awesome video, love the shot around 7 minutes when the train is coming through the tunnel of trees right for the camera, just AWESOME! -Ken
Thanks Ken!
Great Video, I remember seeing R761 go along this line with the Echuca explorer many times before the line was closed.
It's a shame it's gone, however rumor is it may be reactivated soon. V/line has spent a bit of money upgrading the junction as part of the Shepparton Line upgrade. Whether the rest of the line to Echuca gets upgraded and reopened remains to be seen. It may just be the old railway habit of spending money on something and never using it (look at the cement siding at Benalla for example).
@@NR54trailerail I guess we will just have to Wait and see
More great work Sir! That train at 6.00 was crazy..I counted over 160 bins?? Thats a big rake for one loco! The cane trains are fantastic to watch for sure. CHeers Gregg.
Thanks Gregg! It was one of the longer trains I saw on the trip.
What's the purpose of the last carriage with the blinking amber light that has a sign 'front' on it?
That is a "Brake" car , equipped with a diesel powered air compressor and a remote controlled brake system. The cane bins do not have brakes, so on hilly sections , a brake car is attached to the rear , so brakes can be applied by the driver remotely. Most cane tramways rely on the loco to brake the train, but it deoends on where the MIll is and the surrounding territory. Cheers Gregg.
@@FishplateFilms Thanks for your informative reply. Much appreciated
So this is the Robinvale line? Why is it blocked at Manangatang? I would have thought freight/grain trains would have still run to Robinvale.......shame. Can anyone tell me if the Kulwin line is also closed via Sea Lake?
It was booked out of service during the drought about 20 years ago and never reopened. I believe beyond Manangatang the line has lighter rails that can't take the heavier locos and the wagons can't be fully loaded. Also the line has been cut for a mineral sands mine to the North of Manangatang. Robinvale is a big primary producing area so I am surprised it hasn't been reopened. The Kulwin line is officially closed beyond Mittyack. The line between Sea Lake and Mittyack is booked out of service. Mittyack isn't a major grain site so I can't see the line reopening.
0:24: For one moment i was thought that the color scheme was from Norfolk Southern, because the stripes of the cabin reminds me at the used in de american railroad company.
The livery is that of a company called Freight Australia, their parent company was Rail America so the livery may well have been inspired by an existing livery in the USA.
Brilliant Sir! I like the bogie wagons of this mill When I was there back in 2014, they were just bringing in the larger bins and bogie wagons were a rare sight, but it's good to see them being widely used now! Thanks for the clips! Cheers Gregg.
Thanks Gregg!
Nice video matey
Thanks!
RIP swing gates at Ballarat. 😬 Where did the line go after Manangatang? 🤔 Great video though, love some good DERM action. 😎
Thanks, the line continued to Robinvale.
It ended at Robinvale but apparently no longer freight trains going there.
@@garynewton1263 yes the line is booked out of service beyond Manangatang
Great shots! I love the cane trains,and spent 2 weeks chasing them back in 2014. I need to get back up there and get some more clips...they are so cool and run run some beautiful scenery! Thanks and cheers. Gregg.
Thanks Gregg! I spent 10 days covering every mill from Plane Creek to Mossman - they're a very interesting and unique part of the Australian Railway scene. I ended up with about 25 hours of video, so plenty to upload over the next 12 months or so!
@@NR54trailerail Great ! I can watch Cane trains all day ...so I look forward to seeing more of your trip! Cheers Gregg.
I misread the title. I thought it read "High NOISE T class". My recollections of the T class on our Shepp passenger trains were of long trains behind a single T slogging its way slowly up the Glenroy bank at scarcely more than walking pace. With the engine working flat out to get the heavy consist up the grade.
As someone who has worked on both T class locos in this video, I can testify that they are definitely high noise 😄
Not the same without the railway crossing at Sunbury and hearing the trains blasting their horns as they thunder past the platforms, the days of Sunbury being a country town and not a suburb of Melbourne are long gone. Still nice to get a sweet A class toot! 😊
Couldn't agree with you more. It's just another suburb now...
That's typical Aussie bush right there! Great catches and good camerawork Sir! Looks a bit dry out there.... Cheers Gregg.
Not so much dry, just absolutely terrible soils
Thanks Gregg!
In about 1950 my aunt and uncle had chemist shops in both Quambatook and Manangatang and I remember as a child rather vividly the train ride with a railmotor to visit them. I am now resident in Sweden and it is amazing to see reference to those places on the internet.Thank you for an interesting video.
Glad you liked the video.
Just for added atmospheric effect, that loco looked like it had a pair of illuminated skulls just inboard of its buffers! 💀💀
He is hooking in for sure...a little quicker than past my block at Mt' Lofty! The silo looks great in the dark ! Nice catch. Cheers Gregg.
Thanks Gregg, he wasn't hanging around that's for sure!
Another excellent video from this series. Well done mate and was certainly a fun chase. I certainly got heaps of good pics and videos of these locos on this tour.
Thanks mateyyy
I remember one morning getting to work because my car needed repairs I got a train to Lilydale however when it pulled into Mooroolbark moments later it started going back the other way to Croydon. Needless to say I was very late for work.
Ouch