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Episode 235 - Cicero's OTNOTG - 10 - Velleius Explains the Epicurean Proleptic View Of Divinity
Welcome to Episode 235 of Lucretius Today. This is a podcast dedicated to the poet Lucretius, who wrote "On The Nature of Things," the most complete presentation of Epicurean philosophy left to us from the ancient world.
Each week we walk you through the Epicurean texts, and we discuss how Epicurean philosophy can apply to you today. If you find the Epicurean worldview attractive, we invite you to join us in the study of Epicurus at EpicureanFriends.com.
Today we are continuing to review the Epicurean sections of Cicero's "On the Nature of The Gods," as presented by the Epicurean spokesman Velleius, beginning at the end of Section 16 of Book One.
Find out more at: www.epicureanfriends.com/thread/3935-episode-235-cicero-s-otnotg-10-velleius-explains-the-epicurean-proleptic-view-of/
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Episode 234 - Cicero's OTNOTG - 09 - Dealing With Marcus Aurelius And The Epicurean Canonical Bas...
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Welcome to Episode 234 of Lucretius Today. This is a podcast dedicated to the poet Lucretius, who wrote "On The Nature of Things," the most complete presentation of Epicurean philosophy left to us from the ancient world. Each week we walk you through the Epicurean texts, and we discuss how Epicurean philosophy can apply to you today. If you find the Epicurean worldview attractive, we invite you...
Epicurus And The Gods - As Revealed in Cicero's On The Nature of the Gods
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The Lucretius Today Podcast examines Epicurus' views on religion and the nature of the gods. With this episode, we begin our discussion of the Epicurean sections of Cicero's "On The Nature of the Gods." To find out more, and to listen to the remainder of the episodes in this series, click here: www.epicureanfriends.com/lucretiustoday/
Episode 233 - Cicero's OTNOTG - 08 - An Epicurean Attack On The False God Of Stoicism
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Welcome to Episode 233 of Lucretius Today. This is a podcast dedicated to the poet Lucretius, who wrote "On The Nature of Things," the most complete presentation of Epicurean philosophy left to us from the ancient world.Each week we walk you through the Epicurean texts, and we discuss how Epicurean philosophy can apply to you today. If you find the Epicurean worldview attractive, we invite you ...
Welcome To EpicureanFriends.com!
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How Would You Live If You Were Sure That There Are No Supernatural Gods And No Life After Death? Epicurus taught that "Nothing can be created from nothing." This is the most important observation of Epicurean physics, and it leads to many important conclusions about how the world works in ways that are natural, and not supernatural. "Nature has no gods over her." In other words, the Earth was n...
Episode 232 - Cicero's OTNOTG - 07 - Velleius Attacks The Platonist And Aristotelian Views Of Gods
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Welcome to Episode 232 of Lucretius Today. This is a podcast dedicated to the poet Lucretius, who wrote "On The Nature of Things," the most complete presentation of Epicurean philosophy left to us from the ancient world. Each week we walk you through the Epicurean texts, and we discuss how Epicurean philosophy can apply to you today. If you find the Epicurean worldview attractive, we invite you...
Episode 231 - Cicero's OTNOTG - 06 - How would you live if you were certain that there are no sup...
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Welcome to Episode 231 of Lucretius Today. This is a podcast dedicated to the poet Lucretius, who wrote "On The Nature of Things," the most complete presentation of Epicurean philosophy left to us from the ancient world.Each week we walk you through the Epicurean texts, and we discuss how Epicurean philosophy can apply to you today. If you find the Epicurean worldview attractive, we invite you ...
Episode 230 - Cicero's OTNOTG - 05 - Velleius Attacks Misplaced Ideas of Divinity
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Welcome to Episode 230 of Lucretius Today. This is a podcast dedicated to the poet Lucretius, who wrote "On The Nature of Things," the most complete presentation of Epicurean philosophy left to us from the ancient world.Each week we walk you through the Epicurean texts, and we discuss how Epicurean philosophy can apply to you today. If you find the Epicurean worldview attractive, we invite you ...
Episode 229 - Cicero's OTNOTG - 04 - Velleius Continues His Assault On Intelligent Design
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Welcome to Episode 229 of Lucretius Today. This is a podcast dedicated to the poet Lucretius, who wrote "On The Nature of Things," the most complete presentation of Epicurean philosophy left to us from the ancient world.Each week we walk you through the Epicurean texts, and we discuss how Epicurean philosophy can apply to you today. If you find the Epicurean worldview attractive, we invite you ...
Episode 228 - Cicero's OTNOTG - 03 - Velleius Asks "What Woke The Gods To Create The World?"
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Welcometo Episode 228 of Lucretius Today. This is a podcast dedicated to the poet Lucretius, who wrote "On The Nature of Things," the most complete presentation of Epicurean philosophy left to us from the ancient world. Each week we walk you through the Epicurean texts, and we discuss how Epicurean philosophy can apply to you today. If you find the Epicurean worldview attractive, we invite you ...
Episode 227 - Cicero's On The Nature of The Gods - Epicurean Section 02 - Velleius Begins His Att...
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Welcometo Episode 227 of Lucretius Today. This is a podcast dedicated to the poet Lucretius, who wrote "On The Nature of Things," the most complete presentation of Epicurean philosophy left to us from the ancient world. Each week we walk you through the Epicurean texts, and we discuss how Epicurean philosophy can apply to you today. If you find the Epicurean worldview attractive, we invite you ...
Episode 226 - Cicero's On The Nature of The Gods - Epicurean Section - Part 01 - Introduction
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Welcome to Episode 226 of Lucretius Today. This is a podcast dedicated to the poet Lucretius, who wrote "On The Nature of Things," the most complete presentation of Epicurean philosophy left to us from the ancient world. Each week we walk you through the Epicurean texts, and we discuss how Epicurean philosophy can apply to you today. If you find the Epicurean worldview attractive, we invite you...
Episode 225 - Cicero's On Ends - Book Two - Part 30 - Cicero Argues That Commitment To Virtue Is ...
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Welcome to Episode 225 of Lucretius Today. This is a podcast dedicated to the poet Lucretius, who wrote "On The Nature of Things," the most complete presentation of Epicurean philosophy left to us from the ancient world. Each week we walk you through the Epicurean texts, and we discuss how Epicurean philosophy can apply to you today. If you find the Epicurean worldview attractive, we invite you...
Episode 224 - Special Reading - The 1429 Letter of Cosma Raimondi - In Defense of Epicurus
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I have very little leisure at the moment to argue my views on the subject which your letters raise, being taken up with more weighty and much more difficult matters. I do not mind saying that I am very much occupied with my studies in astronomy. But since I have always followed and wholly approved the authority and doctrine of Epicurus, the very wisest of men, and now see his standing bitterly ...
Episode 223 - Cicero's On Ends - Book Two - Part 29 - Are Epicureans Undergoing The Exertions Of ...
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Welcome to Episode 223 of Lucretius Today. This is a podcast dedicated to the poet Lucretius, who wrote "On The Nature of Things," the most complete presentation of Epicurean philosophy left to us from the ancient world. Each week we walk you through the Epicurean texts, and we discuss how Epicurean philosophy can apply to you today. If you find the Epicurean worldview attractive, we invite you...
Episode 222 - Revisiting the Relationship Between Happiness and Pleasure
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Episode 222 - Revisiting the Relationship Between Happiness and Pleasure
Episode 221 - Cicero's On Ends - Book Two - Part 28 -Cicero Alleges Pleasures Of The Mind Cannot ...
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Episode 221 - Cicero's On Ends - Book Two - Part 28 -Cicero Alleges Pleasures Of The Mind Cannot ...
Episode 220 - Cicero's On Ends - Book Two - Part 27 -Cicero Attacks Epicurus' End-Of-Life Decisio...
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Episode 220 - Cicero's On Ends - Book Two - Part 27 -Cicero Attacks Epicurus' End-Of-Life Decisio...
Episode 219 - Cicero's On Ends - Book Two - Part 26 -Cicero Continues His Attack On Epicurus' Pos...
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Episode 219 - Cicero's On Ends - Book Two - Part 26 -Cicero Continues His Attack On Epicurus' Pos...
Episode 218 Cicero's On Ends - Book Two - Part 25 - Can The Epicurean Not Distinguish Between Gre...
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Episode 218 Cicero's On Ends - Book Two - Part 25 - Can The Epicurean Not Distinguish Between Gre...
Episode 217 - Cicero's On Ends - Book Two - Part 24 - Does Luck Control Whether An Epicurean Is H...
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Episode 217 - Cicero's On Ends - Book Two - Part 24 - Does Luck Control Whether An Epicurean Is H...
Episode 216 - Cicero's On Ends - Book Two - Part 23 - Why Does Epicurus Say Length Of Time Does N...
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Episode 216 - Cicero's On Ends - Book Two - Part 23 - Why Does Epicurus Say Length Of Time Does N...
Episode 215 - Cicero's On Ends - Book Two - Part 22 - The Epicurean View Of Happiness
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Episode 215 - Cicero's On Ends - Book Two - Part 22 - The Epicurean View Of Happiness
Episode 214 - Cicero's On Ends - Book Two - Part 21 - Cicero Argues For Idealized Friendship and ...
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Episode 214 - Cicero's On Ends - Book Two - Part 21 - Cicero Argues For Idealized Friendship and ...
Episode 213 - Cicero's On Ends - Book Two - Part 20 -Only Epicureans Define Pleasure As You Do! W...
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Episode 213 - Cicero's On Ends - Book Two - Part 20 -Only Epicureans Define Pleasure As You Do! W...
Episode 212 - Cicero's On Ends - Book Two - Part 19 - Can "Pleasure" Be Defended In The Public Sq...
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Episode 212 - Cicero's On Ends - Book Two - Part 19 - Can "Pleasure" Be Defended In The Public Sq...
Episode 211 - Cicero's On Ends - Book Two - Part 18 - Battle Of The Images
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Episode 211 - Cicero's On Ends - Book Two - Part 18 - Battle Of The Images
Episode 210- Cicero's On Ends - Book Two - Part 17 - Self-Approval As Pleasure
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Episode 210- Cicero's On Ends - Book Two - Part 17 - Self-Approval As Pleasure
Foundations of Epicurean Philosophy - 2024.1
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Foundations of Epicurean Philosophy - 2024.1
Episode 209 - Special Episode - Foundations of Epicurean Philosophy
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Episode 209 - Special Episode - Foundations of Epicurean Philosophy

Komentáře

  • @shahabghadiri926
    @shahabghadiri926 Před 8 měsíci

    Great Podcast Cassius. Thank you very much!

  • @happycats685
    @happycats685 Před 8 měsíci

    This is great. THANK YOU!

  • @xbluebells
    @xbluebells Před 8 měsíci

    Excellent Podcast! Thank YOU!

  • @davet9423
    @davet9423 Před 8 měsíci

    "PromoSM"

  • @NewCyrenaic
    @NewCyrenaic Před 8 měsíci

    She’s an amazing guest with a very lucid and intelligent understanding of the philosophy. Props to you all for an excellent interview with thoughtful questions.

  • @aussiebeermoney1167
    @aussiebeermoney1167 Před 9 měsíci

    we must crush all followers of plato

  • @peterjaimez1619
    @peterjaimez1619 Před 10 měsíci

    So... How did he get the 80 minas? Cheers

  • @peterjaimez1619
    @peterjaimez1619 Před 10 měsíci

    Very enlightening on "Prolepsis"! Keep up the good work. Cheers

  • @christinemartin63
    @christinemartin63 Před 11 měsíci

    I've listened to hundreds of hours of philosophy podcasts on YT ... but nothing beats the original text of the respective philosopher (albeit in simplified language). Bra--vo for uploading this video!

  • @adrianthomas1473
    @adrianthomas1473 Před rokem

    Very good conversation - and so many good points. Pleasure as a goal - that is true deep pleasure - is obviously a good place to be. And I agree about modern Stoics - they are more Epicurean than Stoic.

  • @adrianthomas1473
    @adrianthomas1473 Před rokem

    Very nice talk. It’s a shame that philosophy departments today cannot be in gardens. I love my allotment and do a great deal of thinking there. We think best when we are in contract with nature. Philosophers should be gardeners and farmers.

  • @appik6981
    @appik6981 Před rokem

    this is totally awesome! thanks :)

  • @promansplainor5245
    @promansplainor5245 Před rokem

    I really enjoyed this episode. I only recently discovered Epicurus, having appreciated the stoics and leaned away from hedonism as been there, done that and found it progressively hollow as I trudged the road along the spiritual marketplace. My University interests and exposure was almost exclusively STEM, and Philosophy was cool, for other people. Increasingly folks have questioned my philosophical stance and stoicism was just too damn staunch. I sense a low level disdain many philosophy presenters have reporting but not really reflecting on The Garden as not a place to influence the elite and power brokers as the stoics attempted. In the modern vernacular, Epicurus might say, "You do you, boo."

  • @david9920
    @david9920 Před rokem

    I have practice of epicurean philosophy since I found it's principal about 45 years ago. I live about 10 miles from where you went to college I live in mayflower. Fascinating. Anyway.i think the young generation have much to gain from the concept of living a life you can be hear in the present without fear in joy life without the content striving for more.i believe the illness of the modern world is being told you must always strive for more.as a member of the counterculture we learned how to charish friends.i always wonted to start a suitable group away from the status seaking culture.i think Gen z most young are looking for meaning and reject the capitalist system is coming Thay don't listen to the great lie now. May your friends always be with you and find Joy in the every day things

  • @jimzee6332
    @jimzee6332 Před rokem

    This is serious stuff. A philosophy to give a more meaningful live. Give it up for Epicurus

  • @manfreddevries8454
    @manfreddevries8454 Před rokem

    great words, thank you

  • @manfreddevries8454
    @manfreddevries8454 Před rokem

    I love your work. Thanks and regards from Austria

  • @manfreddevries8454
    @manfreddevries8454 Před rokem

    this is beautifull and well read. Regards from Austria

  • @robertstock9568
    @robertstock9568 Před 2 lety

    I enjoyed the discussions. Thank you so much

  • @michaelmisch3780
    @michaelmisch3780 Před 2 lety

    Thanks very much for these discussions. It was a pleasure to listen to the 4 of you. Wish you all well.

  • @michaelmisch3780
    @michaelmisch3780 Před 2 lety

    Thanks very much for the delightful conversation. I found you by listening to Hiram Crespo in discussion with Massimo Pigliucci & Dan Kaufman when Hiram spoke of AFDIA. I may have heard of Fanny Wright in history books but do not recall her writings. Not a careful, eager reader but appreciative of good discussion about the ancients, especially, Epicurus whom I find appealing. CZcams has given me so much. Thanks again, for EpicureanFriends

  • @maxbournelis7941
    @maxbournelis7941 Před 2 lety

    A very elegant presentation. If only we had the Epicurean Philosophy taught to High School kids and University students this Planet would have been a much more safe and beautiful place to live .

  • @photoaholic
    @photoaholic Před 2 lety

    This book is absolutely amazing and an Epicureanism treasure in my opinion. Great video, thank you!

  • @fraidoonw
    @fraidoonw Před 2 lety

    thanks!

  • @martinaakervik
    @martinaakervik Před 3 lety

    Who can listen to this?

  • @QuestforaMeaningfulLife

    Very nice summary of this teaching.

  • @AnatolyPotapov
    @AnatolyPotapov Před 4 lety

    Is she saying that for Lucretius there is no such thing as teaching objective reality? Then what is his physics? How is he able to say of the Greek poets’ praise of the Earth-Mother that “all this is wonderfully told, a marvel of tradition, _yet far from the real truth.”_ [II.644-6] Or does she admit Lucretius thought we could arrive at genuine truth about the causes of things, but when it comes to _ethical_ judgement, how best to live in the light of that truth, he had nothing to say? Then what can one make of his judgment between “holding the serene regions well fortified on high by the teaching of wise men” and the life of “others wandering below, men lost, confused, competing with each other with their minds and nobility, continually making the greatest efforts to become wealthy and powerful. O wretched minds of men! O hearts in darkness!” [II.8-15] Or this: “So it would be a better thing by far to obey quietly than to wish to rule; the ambitious toil painfully in vain, since indeed they are wise from the mouth of others and seek things from what they hear rather than from the senses themselves.” [V.1132-35] So she’s wrong about Lucretius‘s ethical subjectivity, or that his teaching is barren when it comes to painting the human ideal. This ideal however, is a _private_ good, namely the private life of the philosopher. He did not hope for mass enlightenment. “The mob shrinks back in horror” [I.945] from his doctrine. He did not think his honey-like poetical smearing would work in most cases to overcome revulsion at its grimness. Most people would remain ignorant of the causes of the heaviness in their mind that tired them out. Not knowing what they want, they always seek a change of place; they try to flee from themselves. If they knew the cause of their sickness, they would drop other things and be eager to know the nature of things; for what is at issue is not of an hour, but of eternal time in which mortals must remain after death [III.1053-75]. Their unwillingness to face up to their situation, their semi-conscious anxious hopefulness that they can somehow escape it, will always go on to characterize _most_ lives. Thus Lucretius thought about the irresolvable difference between the philosophic and the common life. In the preface to his _Philosophy of Right_ Hegel asserted that the problem of the tension between philosophy and civil society is resolved in the modern state, in which philosophic knowledge becomes concretely accessible to every citizen. According, “philosophy with us is not, as it was with the Greeks for instance, pursued in private like an art, but has an existence in the open, in contact with the public, and especially, _or even only,_ in service to the state.”

  • @AnatolyPotapov
    @AnatolyPotapov Před 4 lety

    A fine voice and translation, thank you!

  • @AnatolyPotapov
    @AnatolyPotapov Před 4 lety

    Is triumphalist music really the most appropriate to adorn an introduction to Lucretius? I would have chosen the song of Seikilos or something similarly meditative with a lyre. czcams.com/video/9RjBePQV4xE/video.html A triumphalist tone seems mistaken to me because it catches the spirit of the work’s opening, especially the portrayal of “the man from Greece[‘s]” daring to lift his “mortal eyes” to the heavens and being the first to “break down the bars of the gates to nature” and “victoriously brought back to us knowledge of what can and cannot come into being, and in what way each thing has a limited power and deep set boundary,” but it misses the increasingly somber, or as Lucretius would say, _bitter_ aspect of his teaching, which ends with a foreshadowing of the world’s end in its description of the plague of Athens, where even the “calm heights, well built, well fortified by wise men’s teaching [from which] to look down at others wandering below” [bk 2 proem] would be swept away by a plague of such power that it “battered all the bastions of life” [6.1153] reaching even to the mind to make them “blind victims of amnesia, gone from all the selves they used to know” [6. 1207]. In short the tone catches only a part but misses that Lucretius wrote the whole by mixing “sweet talking” with bitter truth, the former being laid on more heavily the nearer to the opening, the latter the closer to the end.

  • @maxbournelis7941
    @maxbournelis7941 Před 5 lety

    Thank you my old friend .

  • @pascalmassie3906
    @pascalmassie3906 Před 6 lety

    What's wrong with the voice? This doesn't sound human.

  • @bruceb85
    @bruceb85 Před 7 lety

    The reader was a robot

    • @johnmiller7453
      @johnmiller7453 Před 5 lety

      but a totally conscious robot.

    • @Oscuros
      @Oscuros Před 3 lety

      @@johnmiller7453, how is an automatic reading programme "conscious" or sentient? This is just what lazy people do who either have shit English or are not literate enough to read aloud. I don't understand why nowadays people want to involve others in their stupid delusions.

  • @fraidoonw
    @fraidoonw Před 7 lety

    thanks. it was great especially the accent of the reader!

  • @ScottHeavnerwidowsson

    Great introduction. Thank you!

  • @documentaries5222
    @documentaries5222 Před 8 lety

    Love the content of this video and the website... but the unfriendly unfeeling mechanical voice of the narrator is very hard on the ears.

  • @Efilzeo
    @Efilzeo Před 10 lety

    Was Epicurus a stoic? I don't find many differences between the two philosophies.

    • @documentaries5222
      @documentaries5222 Před 8 lety

      +Efilzeo di Reggio ...Epicurus wasn't a stoic, although there are similarities between Epicureanism and Stoicism they were often opposed in their beliefs: www.csun.edu/~hcfll004/Stoic-Epic-comp.html ...Personally I dislike the division brought about by "isms", and putting ideas under categories. I agree with Stoics sometimes and the Epicureans more, but I wouldn't box myself into one or the other as they are both worthy of consideration; as are the other branches that make up the tree of Hellenistic philosophic knowledge.