I was considering getting the integrated second stage regulator for the inflator hose rather than a full sized second stage. If I have to tie the inflator hose down to keep it from being loose, I'm not sure how that's going to work with an integrated regulator.
I would highly suggest not getting an air2. IF you ever need to use it, you will find they are not a very great option. You’re limited on how far you can move your head, they get banged up, require a different LP hose so if you need a spare they’re not easily found in person. Long hose and necklace is the way to go.
I’m about to start my tech course. As for regulators I’ve used several brands but the Deep 6 is going to be my next brand. For my doubles I use the Apeks Tek 3s and XTX 50s. Best regulators I’ve used this far. Can’t wait to try the Deep 6 stuff though.
That’s a very good question. Simply put, the middle of the plate is inset far enough that the bolts (typically) will not touch your spine, however Untrimmed bolts (usually on doubles) and wingnuts with long wings may sometimes brush your back. Hope this helps!
Hey Brian, the scuba pro and Apex regs are phenomenal regs as well! I’ve used all of them pretty extensively over the past few years and wouldn’t recommend against them. Deep 6 regs are just a little cheaper, offer better technical/ customer support, and include service kits for free with all regs! If you’re interested in a set of deep 6 regs, feel free to message me for special pricing.
Save’a’dive kits are SOP. Any divers that don’t have some kind of a save a dive kit really deserve to not have their dive saved. It sux that many people depend on others preparation.
@@wallybrown9509 i haven't no, but one of my good friends does. I'm not a fan of black water diving, and the few offshore wrecks just never appealed to me.
I would advise reducing the diaglog down from the current level, down to something in the 2-3 minute range. In other words, reduce all wording/dialogue/talking down by 90%. Possibly have specific talking points already written down. Just a suggestion.
Hi again. I had the procedure done three days ago and I am not well. My ear is painful and clogged and it is totally impossible for me to equalize it. Doctor told me to do a Valsalva maneuver twice a day but when I try it, it is completely blocked and the ear becomes quite painful. Doctor says it is due to inflammation that should subside. How was your recovery? Were you given any medication? Thanks.
My recovery as a little different. From when I woke up my ear was "open" and I could hear abnormally well. It was however pretty painful for about 8-9 days. I believe I was told to give it a vew days before attempting valsalvo.
Hello. Very many thanks for sharing your experience. Your insights are very helpful to me. I have been an avid spear fisher all my life and, recently, I've been unable to equalize with my right ear. After all medication failed I am scheduled for Eustachian Tube Balloon Dilatation soon. Your positive experience has encouraged me further.
Thanks for posting. Looking into changing from a jacket BC so I can go to fundies (GUE)class. Will not purchase until I complete the course, but your video was helpful.
If you plan to make GUE your primary organization, eventually all your gear will be Halcyon. I have since moved on to Halcyon, and starting fundies myself 😊.
I have heard great things about Deep Six regs! How do they breathe compared to the DS Sea Elite regs? I'm sure night and day difference! I'm looking at ordering a singles kit myself. Thanks man!
The best expression is honestly night and day. The sea elite regs I had were ok. They worked, but they were not the best and there is definitely some WOB issues there. The D6 regs tuned properly outbreath every other reg I have used. I know own 5 Deep 6 1st and second stages. A set for my doubles, one for each deco bottle, and one for my stage bottle. I honestly love and believe in these regs. It's not a coincidence you are seeing more and more divers using them.
I have the same setup minus the STA. I have not experienced the "wobble". I don't dive steel tanks, but I do dive "compact 80's" from time to time. I find the rig to be more than satisfactory. The wing is just enough lift for a balanced setup. Not much room for overweighting. Fine for a thorough, thinking diver, could be trouble for others. By that I mean that there is plenty of lift to be slightly over weighted on the dive, but over weighting becomes VERY apparent at the surface. My only real gripe is that the wing puts pressure on the longhose fitting when fully inflated. If diving a DIN adapter, it's way worse.
I'm curious how your wing is putting any pressure on the long hose, but I don't know how you have your 1st stage set up. The "DIR" way has the ling hose coming from the 5th port at a 45° away from the wing and tank.
Sorry for the late reply. No, the plate doesnt harm the dump any. When in the water the wing wraps up around the tank, away from the plate. Hope this helps!
50 degrees is hardly considered cold water. I live in MI and regularly dive 40 and below especially throughout the winter months. I'd like to know how well these act when put to the test. Any stuttering, or fluttering going on? I'm interested in purchasing one of these sets as a backup but I'm not gonna drop the cash until I know more. Also, one reason why they send rebuild kits may be because not many dive shops service them, so for that, you're on your own
Hi TadpoleDiving, I am in the exact same situation as you, I am a PADI AOW diver, and I did my AOW 5 dives after my Basic OW and now I am doing plenty of leisure dives but am taking a sidemount and nitrox course soon. Thanks to your channel now I know there are others just like me. I have also just got a pair of jetfins and a backplate and harness setup. Getting a set of regs soon and have my eyes on the same as this!
I dont understand why people do tech diving. Theres nothing cool to see below 100ft. On top of that you have to spend $1000s of dollars for gear, training and dive trips. Can you imagine how much it will cost to travel with all that gear? I think tech diving is just another money pit. If you can get paid for it, then its all worth it, but I think tech diving is marketed to be something that its not.
There are plenty of things to see below 100'. Things that interest me greatly. Like any hobby in life it costs money. Some people have 20k harleys. Some have 60k campers. I have dive gear.. I have traveled with my gear. Living on the east coast, it is easy to transport gear. Since this video I have made a few trips.
I'm just piecing gear together myself. I started with Deep6 regs and fins (which got me to your videos), though I have yet to use them. I'm a vacation diver, not headed toward tech diving, like yourself. My next goal is to purchase either a lightweight jacket BC or BPW setup. The DGX backplate and wing setup is also on my list. How do you find the weight and compactness? Do you think it would be suitable for travel? (Yes, you did say that the wing is the travel version of the Dive Rite wing in the video, but I'm interested in your opinion.) Why did you opt for the Single Tank Adapter? I also notice that with the STA, there are wingnut fasteners on the body-side of the backplate. Does that poke into your back? What do you plan to do for pockets, to carry things with? Thanks and I look forward to more videos.
These are some great questions and I hope to answer them well enough to help you make a decision. 1. I see no reason it couldn't be used for travel. as far as flying with it and meeting airline luggage requirements it would depend on what else you are packing. my SS plate and STA is roughly 12lbs. I do believe it is pretty compact, but no where near as compact as I have seen the travel specific BP/w's get. 2. I opted for the STA for two reasons. first being I found the tank rocked slightly on the carriage/sex bolts included with the assembly. I'm sure there may have been a way to mitigate that, but point two being I dive dry and the extra weight of the STA pushed me that direction. Other divers using the same DGX BP/w have also confirmed they had the rocking, and some said they did not. It honestly may be up to the diver how solid they prefer their gear to be. 3. The wing nuts are recessed into the plate so there is no way for them to make contact with your spine. 4. so far any items I have had to carry would go into the pockets on my drysuit. I dive with a slate on my left wrist, computer (perdix) on my right wrist, wetnotes in my right cargo pocket, spool and DSMB on my butt D-ring, back up lights stay on the shoulder straps tucked out of the way. as soon as my spare mask and roll up snorkel arrive they will go in my left cargo pocket. Hopefully this answered everything! Thanks for watching!
Glad you're liking them! Have you messed around with the +/- lever and venturi knob in water? My past regs only had the lever so I'm not 100% clear on what the difference between the two controls is. I also found the box too small to store the assembled regs, so I'm using it as an assorted gear box just like you :P
I did play with them, I currently run it pretty much all the way open. It breaths effortless. For the short hose I run 50% open and set halfway between dove and predive to keep it from freeflowing
I'm in a similar place - looking to get into tech diving and bought the doubles setup with their November discount. I've been impressed with the customer service and everything seems very high quality + durable from the first unboxing! Look forward to hearing what you think when you get them in the water.
Alex Kalicki thanks for your comment! I did finally upload a video briefly going over them post dive. In the end, I'm in love with them! And I'm sure you will be too!
@@ChrisEpler for wetsuit diving they are great. Everything you love about jets, but with a better foot pocket and neutral in the water. I use heavier fins when diving dry though.
Is the BCI backup regulator worth it, what can't you do without it?
I was considering getting the integrated second stage regulator for the inflator hose rather than a full sized second stage. If I have to tie the inflator hose down to keep it from being loose, I'm not sure how that's going to work with an integrated regulator.
I would highly suggest not getting an air2. IF you ever need to use it, you will find they are not a very great option. You’re limited on how far you can move your head, they get banged up, require a different LP hose so if you need a spare they’re not easily found in person. Long hose and necklace is the way to go.
Do you always run into people like that when diving?
I’m looking forward to purchasing this next month. Thanks for your video
Appreciate the video - think I will purchase from DGX. Thanks again
Thanks for the post! Considering one of these and the overview was helpful!
Glad you found this helpful!
I’m about to start my tech course. As for regulators I’ve used several brands but the Deep 6 is going to be my next brand. For my doubles I use the Apeks Tek 3s and XTX 50s. Best regulators I’ve used this far. Can’t wait to try the Deep 6 stuff though.
I’m a distributor for Deep 6, and can set you up with regs at an extremely competitive pricing when you’re ready!
We need to see more videos
I notice that the single tank adapter bolts are sticking out from the front, is that not poking at ur back or uncomfortable at all?
That’s a very good question. Simply put, the middle of the plate is inset far enough that the bolts (typically) will not touch your spine, however Untrimmed bolts (usually on doubles) and wingnuts with long wings may sometimes brush your back. Hope this helps!
Do you still recommend the DGX backplate and wing? I am considering purchasing
I do! It’s a great, basic backplate! The harness is a tad stiff so you may want shoulder pads if you’re in a drysuit.
How do they compare with other regulators eg. Scubapro and apex? If you've tried the others,.....
Hey Brian, the scuba pro and Apex regs are phenomenal regs as well! I’ve used all of them pretty extensively over the past few years and wouldn’t recommend against them. Deep 6 regs are just a little cheaper, offer better technical/ customer support, and include service kits for free with all regs! If you’re interested in a set of deep 6 regs, feel free to message me for special pricing.
thanks bud
You bet
If Mark Zuckerberg had an extra chromosome. XD
I get this all the time haha
In the end it comes all down to one thing........personal preferece.
...sure.
Are you still using deep six regulator?
I am! I have 5 sets now.
Looks like a great dive. It’s shark week down there. LOL. Maybe unhook the scooter and do some kicking down inside?
I’m be done that a few times. unfortunately not a lot of passages inside.
Save’a’dive kits are SOP. Any divers that don’t have some kind of a save a dive kit really deserve to not have their dive saved. It sux that many people depend on others preparation.
This day and age my save a dive kit has turned into a save a dive bag LOL.
TechDiverPratt That sux it’s so big, but hey, thats awesome. I’ll be going down to Myrtle Beach to do some diving, have you ever drived down there?
@@wallybrown9509 i haven't no, but one of my good friends does. I'm not a fan of black water diving, and the few offshore wrecks just never appealed to me.
TechDiverPratt is the viz that bad?
@@wallybrown9509 the inshore stuff is. Offshore is typical SC/NC conditions.
If they preform like they look, they will be awesome. Thx for sharing.
I would advise reducing the diaglog down from the current level, down to something in the 2-3 minute range. In other words, reduce all wording/dialogue/talking down by 90%. Possibly have specific talking points already written down. Just a suggestion.
I’m a couple years late on this, but I appreciate the advice. I’ve since become a teacher and fixed a lot of my previous issues.
Hi again. I had the procedure done three days ago and I am not well. My ear is painful and clogged and it is totally impossible for me to equalize it. Doctor told me to do a Valsalva maneuver twice a day but when I try it, it is completely blocked and the ear becomes quite painful. Doctor says it is due to inflammation that should subside. How was your recovery? Were you given any medication? Thanks.
My recovery as a little different. From when I woke up my ear was "open" and I could hear abnormally well. It was however pretty painful for about 8-9 days. I believe I was told to give it a vew days before attempting valsalvo.
@@techdiverpratt5899 Great, thank you for your inputs. It makes good sense to wait with the Valsalva and be patient.
Hello. Very many thanks for sharing your experience. Your insights are very helpful to me. I have been an avid spear fisher all my life and, recently, I've been unable to equalize with my right ear. After all medication failed I am scheduled for Eustachian Tube Balloon Dilatation soon. Your positive experience has encouraged me further.
Still to this day I am so happy I did it.
Thanks for posting. Looking into changing from a jacket BC so I can go to fundies (GUE)class. Will not purchase until I complete the course, but your video was helpful.
If you plan to make GUE your primary organization, eventually all your gear will be Halcyon. I have since moved on to Halcyon, and starting fundies myself 😊.
I have a set on the way! I’ve been sitting on a steel backplate for awhile now, so I went ahead and ordered a wing from them as well
You will enjoy them. I have 4 sets now.
I have heard great things about Deep Six regs! How do they breathe compared to the DS Sea Elite regs? I'm sure night and day difference! I'm looking at ordering a singles kit myself. Thanks man!
The best expression is honestly night and day. The sea elite regs I had were ok. They worked, but they were not the best and there is definitely some WOB issues there. The D6 regs tuned properly outbreath every other reg I have used. I know own 5 Deep 6 1st and second stages. A set for my doubles, one for each deco bottle, and one for my stage bottle. I honestly love and believe in these regs. It's not a coincidence you are seeing more and more divers using them.
@@techdiverpratt5899 Awesome! And thank you for the reply! Be safe.
I have the same setup minus the STA. I have not experienced the "wobble". I don't dive steel tanks, but I do dive "compact 80's" from time to time. I find the rig to be more than satisfactory. The wing is just enough lift for a balanced setup. Not much room for overweighting. Fine for a thorough, thinking diver, could be trouble for others. By that I mean that there is plenty of lift to be slightly over weighted on the dive, but over weighting becomes VERY apparent at the surface. My only real gripe is that the wing puts pressure on the longhose fitting when fully inflated. If diving a DIN adapter, it's way worse.
I'm curious how your wing is putting any pressure on the long hose, but I don't know how you have your 1st stage set up. The "DIR" way has the ling hose coming from the 5th port at a 45° away from the wing and tank.
The backplate appears to sit on the dump valve. Does this cause any issues of wear on either the dump valve itself or on the pull cord?
Sorry for the late reply. No, the plate doesnt harm the dump any. When in the water the wing wraps up around the tank, away from the plate. Hope this helps!
How are they holding up?
Little over 65 dives on them now, holding up like day 1.
50 degrees is hardly considered cold water. I live in MI and regularly dive 40 and below especially throughout the winter months. I'd like to know how well these act when put to the test. Any stuttering, or fluttering going on? I'm interested in purchasing one of these sets as a backup but I'm not gonna drop the cash until I know more. Also, one reason why they send rebuild kits may be because not many dive shops service them, so for that, you're on your own
Since the video I have had them down to 40°. Still no issues.
Hi TadpoleDiving, I am in the exact same situation as you, I am a PADI AOW diver, and I did my AOW 5 dives after my Basic OW and now I am doing plenty of leisure dives but am taking a sidemount and nitrox course soon. Thanks to your channel now I know there are others just like me. I have also just got a pair of jetfins and a backplate and harness setup. Getting a set of regs soon and have my eyes on the same as this!
I dont understand why people do tech diving. Theres nothing cool to see below 100ft. On top of that you have to spend $1000s of dollars for gear, training and dive trips. Can you imagine how much it will cost to travel with all that gear? I think tech diving is just another money pit. If you can get paid for it, then its all worth it, but I think tech diving is marketed to be something that its not.
There are plenty of things to see below 100'. Things that interest me greatly. Like any hobby in life it costs money. Some people have 20k harleys. Some have 60k campers. I have dive gear.. I have traveled with my gear. Living on the east coast, it is easy to transport gear. Since this video I have made a few trips.
Many ship wrecks are below a hundred feet; many reefs are at this depth and more. Take it on faith.
Is this the $400 hogarthian setup or the $300 dgx set up? Also did it come with everything but the sta?
This is the $300 version. It does not come with the knife and sheath, lights, or STA. everything else is included.
Ok thanks for the info.
I'm just piecing gear together myself. I started with Deep6 regs and fins (which got me to your videos), though I have yet to use them. I'm a vacation diver, not headed toward tech diving, like yourself. My next goal is to purchase either a lightweight jacket BC or BPW setup. The DGX backplate and wing setup is also on my list. How do you find the weight and compactness? Do you think it would be suitable for travel? (Yes, you did say that the wing is the travel version of the Dive Rite wing in the video, but I'm interested in your opinion.) Why did you opt for the Single Tank Adapter? I also notice that with the STA, there are wingnut fasteners on the body-side of the backplate. Does that poke into your back? What do you plan to do for pockets, to carry things with? Thanks and I look forward to more videos.
These are some great questions and I hope to answer them well enough to help you make a decision. 1. I see no reason it couldn't be used for travel. as far as flying with it and meeting airline luggage requirements it would depend on what else you are packing. my SS plate and STA is roughly 12lbs. I do believe it is pretty compact, but no where near as compact as I have seen the travel specific BP/w's get. 2. I opted for the STA for two reasons. first being I found the tank rocked slightly on the carriage/sex bolts included with the assembly. I'm sure there may have been a way to mitigate that, but point two being I dive dry and the extra weight of the STA pushed me that direction. Other divers using the same DGX BP/w have also confirmed they had the rocking, and some said they did not. It honestly may be up to the diver how solid they prefer their gear to be. 3. The wing nuts are recessed into the plate so there is no way for them to make contact with your spine. 4. so far any items I have had to carry would go into the pockets on my drysuit. I dive with a slate on my left wrist, computer (perdix) on my right wrist, wetnotes in my right cargo pocket, spool and DSMB on my butt D-ring, back up lights stay on the shoulder straps tucked out of the way. as soon as my spare mask and roll up snorkel arrive they will go in my left cargo pocket. Hopefully this answered everything! Thanks for watching!
Thanks for taking the time to give a very detailed answer! Much appreciated!
Glad you're liking them! Have you messed around with the +/- lever and venturi knob in water? My past regs only had the lever so I'm not 100% clear on what the difference between the two controls is. I also found the box too small to store the assembled regs, so I'm using it as an assorted gear box just like you :P
I did play with them, I currently run it pretty much all the way open. It breaths effortless. For the short hose I run 50% open and set halfway between dove and predive to keep it from freeflowing
Stop saying "um" so dang much lol.
I'm in a similar place - looking to get into tech diving and bought the doubles setup with their November discount. I've been impressed with the customer service and everything seems very high quality + durable from the first unboxing! Look forward to hearing what you think when you get them in the water.
Alex Kalicki thanks for your comment! I did finally upload a video briefly going over them post dive. In the end, I'm in love with them! And I'm sure you will be too!
Have you tried the deep 6 eddy fins?
I actually have a set on order right now!
@@techdiverpratt5899 So how are they?
@@ChrisEpler for wetsuit diving they are great. Everything you love about jets, but with a better foot pocket and neutral in the water. I use heavier fins when diving dry though.