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OMG. Darius was right all along.

OMG. Darius was right all along.

OMG. Darius was right all along.

man I still like destiny, but back then when he was debating the most stupid thing ever was gold

It’s a insane breeding ground of misandry- radical led feminism and femcel

Presidentsunday is so infuriatingly annoying it was hard to rewatch this debate

To steelman DemonMama though I disagree with a lot of her larger points, I think Destiny kept missing the answer to two questions he kept asking which, in DemonMama's framework, answer each other: 1) What is the underlying fact of the matter of gender in DemonMama's understanding of gender, does her framework actually devalue trans identity and other meaningful categories? and 2) How do we get around DemonMama's perpetual invocation of agency which seems to function as a shield from criticism? I don't know whether she could be nailed down on there being a measurable fact of the matter for trans or gay or racial identity other than self-id--I'm willing to grant her the charitability to assume yes because I actually don't think it conflicts with the framework she's trying to get at. But I do think the point she's getting at is that to a gender abolitionist, perhaps a neurological fact of the matter can be found pointing at some specifics of gender expression, but actual gender categories are abolishable on the premise that the current social construction in the English-speaking world of "men", "women", and maybe some fuzzy third thing and maybe more, can be REPLACED BY AGENCY. Not by a selection of better, more accurate or unifying categories. But by the concept of self-expression itself, a concept in which the uniqueness of individuals is key and prized. I don't think this model is inherently wrong, I just think it's a model that has to be bought into by a vast number of people in order to function, which is where its rightness or wrongness will be tested. Like any grand arcane theory of social construction, it can't really be disproven to be functional at large scale, it can only be proven by becoming ubiquitous, like the successes of social constructs of money and language, and like the probably-never-provable social constructs of things like Posadism or a religion worshipping the concept of a teacup orbiting the Sun between Jupiter and Saturn. Would a society built on a model of gender abolitionism including the actual absence of distinct popular binaristic gender categories at the center of its gender concept see massive mental health problems in otherwise cisgender people, or would they be chill about their self-expression being so hyperspecific as to be nonrelational? Would currently-binaristic trans people be happy with it? Would nonbinary people? Would current neopronoun users invent unified categories again just to be contrary? It's not knowable until it's tried on at least a small scale culturally, which admittedly it has not been tried. If gender abolitionism is to be attempted on a small scale I prefer Vaush's model of it where it seems like...the same as a model of men, women, other, just people be less assumptive about what gender means and treat it as an almost gamified social construct rather than inherently biological. I think that's more likely to be at least a worthy experiment.

Im straight conservative gender. Im sure demonmama will validate my form of expression.

hilarious how the chat starts off mindlessly hating the video before clamming up when it hits the ground running

29:28/34:40 rip e;r, 39:46 jp, 46:34 vote

Vaush’s “ideology” is about as realistic as mine when I was 15 and read some summary of Machiavelli and decided it’d be pretty cool if I told people that I was “Machiavellian.” Then, unlike Vaush, I never actually said that ever and just went on with my life like a (relatively) normal person.

Misinformation is not equally bad on the left, we don’t deny evolution or climate change denial

Lobbying is absolutely a problem

The implications for what Demon is describing is horrific for society. Cause according to her logic there’s literally no way to have her ideal world not hold the binary believers emotionally hostage and dismantle a system that keeps the sex of women safe. Plus many other things like the destruction of language. So profoundly incorrect. And yes Demon wants it tk just become an aesthetic but doesn’t say the quiet part out loud that for it to be just a fun quirky thing, it must be enforced by society. And it’s so arbitrary and individual based, it can’t be legislated to enforce. The goal shouldn’t be to reduce labels but furthrr delineate.

No calling vaush Hasan would be an ableist slur

Right off the bat Vaush shows proves how dumb he is. His first complaint is the use of the term "weather or not" showing he doesn't know what it means.

I worked at a college for over 12 years. I was hourly, but I doubt I ever worked under 60 hours any week. I watched most of my peers clock exactly 40 hours while I completed work several pay-grades higher. Still, I only recorded 40 hours for my paysheet. Because the thing that is getting missed is: I loved my job. Sure, more money or respect would have been wonderful. Still, if I could help people get a meaningful degree (Nursing, Welding, X-Ray Tech, etc) that doubled their pay (changing the lives of generation) without accruing weighty college debt, I was all in. We did not produce expensive, but useless, degrees. We made the people and the country better. If it meant working through lunch and staying a bit late, I was all in as long as I got to watch graduation from the eaves. If a union had denied me that possibility because someone somewhere might have worked a few more hours, I would have ended up in jail. Let it be voluntary.

My question is how can someone believe these employees have a union and that union and the employee are allowing the company to violate the laws on overtime without reporting it to the DOL? And as soon as I typed it, your video covers it. The one thing about your video is you and your audience talks about "conservatives". I find that weird because the conservatives these days seems to align more with moderates and independents while the progressive left has redefined liberal to mean more aligned with authoritarian ans socialism. The radicals on both sides tend to ignore common logic and scientific problem solving methods.

Please don't let him use f word with the Lord's name

Please don't let them use f word with the Lord's name

Talking about the undergrad thing: For my university (Indiana University), all Poli-Sci majors in their senior year have to take a seminar (topics change by semester and professor preference) where you are in a class of 10 or less sitting down with a professor that has published works. You read published research on the topic and talk about it in a Socratic seminar to prepare you to write a paper of your own. At the end of the semester you’re expected to have a thesis prepared where you pose a question, make a hypothesis, establish variables, set up a survey and discuss methodology of the survey, discuss controls, and summarize what has already been researched about it. As my seminar professor put it, “you are writing a paper for publication up to the point where you conduct the survey.” Some people go on to finish their senior papers and put them in for publication, others use it as a start for a grad school thesis.

I agree with everything destiny says here, except that the dude was showing lethal intent when reaching for the gun. Obviously this is a comparison but hear me out. You ever have a kid shooting a water gun at you and you put your hand in front of it to stop from say your face being hit by the water and attempt to put your hand over the nozzle. Thats kinda the feeling i think this guy is having maybe times a million. He has the gun pointed at him he does seem scared. Hes begging. He might just be trying to make sure the gun isnt pointed at him. Is it smart obviously not. But fears wild. And i dont think he intended to take the gun and use it on the officer.

"A definition can be self referential." No. Just no.🤦

Incredible reaction Destiny. So much insight.

SO DISGUSTINGLY DISHONEST!! "the one section i looked at". BRO, we all know you watched it before and chose the weakest section intentionally to show on your stream and nothing else. And then trying to dismiss the entire video out of hand because you know you couldnt argue against it. Truly a strategy only a real intellectual would use.

I love how Destiny's chat is like "But what about MUH per capita" when the point was to show how race had little to no reason for officer-involved shootings. Yes, there are more white people in the United States, but who commits more of the crime, black people. And from there we could go into a deep discussion as to why that's the case, but regardless this is besides the point

13:00 the best part in the WHOLE thing, great video essay.

Baccelaureate thesis

And now in 2024 we have concrete proof that vaush is actually unironically evil

These type of subreddits are why younger men are more likely to become misogynist, imagine being like 12 and you being already hated by grown ass women because of your gender, hell replace most of these with the words “black people” and the same people complaining would be livid

Doomermedia was a great content creator shame idiots like President runday harassed him off the internet

Vaush exagerates white supremacy's extensiveness to be mega ultra trendy look how down I am lefty mainstream trash. Listening to Vaush is an act that requires strength and resolve. He is blinded by left wing tribalism. He disagrees with anyone on the right only because they are on the right and he percieves anyone who disagrees with him as being on the right of him as well.

Vaush thinks of Dank of being necessarily a white supremacist because he is of the basic bitch far left that will call Jimmy Dore and far-right conspiracy theorist while Vaush expouses mainstream tv and mainline institutuonal promoted ideas to be on the left as a sort of fashionable scene to be in. Its all about tribalistic comformity. He knows for a fact that if he was in my hood, he wouldn't be worried about white supremacist about to pop out from any corner or from any rock about to snag him on his rear end. He is the sort of lefty that gestures to know what's good for all minorities by weakening a nations borders, making wages stay lower by enlistening more undocumented help and less jobs to go around, as if nothing bad can happen to a nations populace like seen in NY, and couple that with strain put on public services, etc. He does what many vanilla leftist do, and call everything a nazi, muh racism, and far-right this or that over and over. Vaush in terms if being a lefty, is manufactored controlled opposition. That's why he disagreed with Destiny on Rittenhouse, he parroted whatever the mainstream media gestured, not the actual details of the event in truth. Vaush does what is trendy for his time and space, he says nothing about severe issues with control and coersion from ruling powers, unless he percieves it from the right usually. Vaush doesn't usually critique the left fairly on average, he simply caters to divisive rhetoric like the living embodiment of a psyop.

nice reacting

10:00 - this is pure simpery and don't ever let him tell you otherwise.

Have the police ever killed 1 robber and 7 employees? Or even 2 employees?

Funny how Destinys chat keep insulting Don't walk run, by saying he looks g*y or that he talks like a piece of sh*t or that hes ugly or calling him insults, yet not a single one of them can actually even point to how he is wrong on anything, not even Destiny because Destiny can see that he is right LOL It really shows how they are just straight up mad that he has the facts and knows what he is talking about and they don't

The whole nickname argument goes against Demonmama. When you give yourself a nickname it is considered cringe and insanely pathetic. So giving yourself neo -pronouns and niche gender is as cringe as giving yourself a nickname.

it’s worrying seeing multiple popular figures pretend to be the arbiters of moral authority, when they dehumanize anyone who doesn’t fully agree with them. When most of the audience they have are young adults/teenagers trying t learn about politics and be informed correctly. They use that to fear monger, and at times insight physical action to a political party’s voters. It’s frustrating because they have a platform that could change a generation for the better but they use it to spew hate.

What is feminine? Baking cookies?

"Bacheloriate" said SO confidently instead "baccalaureate" lmao! Thats how you know hes such a fraud.

downvoted, because he is "destiney"

I think that Vaush does a bit of ego projection when he pretends to read the minds of people he smears. The police, for example. Or his intellectual adversaries.

I'm 13 minutes in and have yet to hear any insightful commentary. I hope that's just because he wants to let the video play more before sharing any opinion but it feels dirty to watch a video unedited for that long when it isn't the original video. I think you should try something different for react content, at least when it's uploaded to CZcams as you can edit these videos even if it wouldn't work for Twitch.

I’m sure vaush like hasan is simply a shitty person who gaslights their young and emotionally charged audience as they spew their hate

I know this is kind of an old video but at 43:00 My guess is that they have the record of the crime but not the actual statistics of who committed the crime and I'm going to assert that if you factored in those unknowns it would be multiplicative on that bar graph and not added equally. Essentially amplifying the existing data slightly.

So at what point does Destiny say anything about the video?... 😑

“They will perforate your homes while your children watch” 😂 Vaush is unhinged bro

Destiny makes a good point that we don’t rehabilitate violent prisoners we just lock them up until their testosterone levels drop and they chill out 😂

I know my family that work for a police department were really disappointed when there wasn't monthly lynchings. They knew "protect and serve" was really just code for "let's kill the minorities". Vaush is correct, this is absolutely, a 100% serious assertion and is, in no way, absurd.