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So awesome when you guys were talking about the New Tribes Missions teaching... that got started by John Cross when he was over in Papua New Guinea. He wrote a book called "Stranger on the Road to Emaus" ...I got to help him with that doing the artwork. We have since worked on dozens of books using the same principles of "chronological teaching" and the Lord has spread it far and wide and so many have come to the Lord through it! Awesome discussion and great podcasts btw...

Thank you Gentlemen. This has been a useful discussion (plus the presentation of your paper Dr Miller at the expositors conference) to assist in our working through this issue within our leadership. We have generally followed the believing view (We love Dr MacArthur's teaching) for along time and we have a had several elders stand down based on this conviction. We did have a case of a good man who has 6 out of 7 believing children with the last child unbelieving but not wildly rebelling, we believe he was a faithful teacher an manager of his household. This has made us pause and think through our stance on this and some of us at least opened our minds to the possibility of the faithful stance (though it took me a while to let go of my presuppositions to honestly consider it). Even considering a change of view on this was seen as a betrayal of scripture by some leaders and parts of the congregation who have been taught this view for so long, though they have softened in light of teaching both sides of the argument to explain that faithful is not unscriptural. There are still differing views but do you think you it is essential to make a blanket stance on this as a leadership? or can it be that do you look at each instance situationally? We do want to uphold the high and holy calling of leadership in our church and we certainly don't want to confuse the sheep. Your thoughts appreciated.

What you don't know, and make assumptions, is HOW His sacrifice gets applied to us. HE left a way, the Eucharist, which you reject.

It's the Catholic Church and the offering of the Daily Sacrifice of the Mass that is being prophesied of. THIS is the Sacrifice that Anti-Christ will STOP.

Thank you so much Peter for another fantastic video. Also liked your shirt with the Shark (Greg Norman) logo. You play chess and golf? Great combination.

Another possibility that you didn't mention, maybe Washington and the Deists are correct about Christianity and you are wrong.

Brother, are you familiar with Irenaeus teaching about how and when to calculate the number ? Sorry if you mentioned it. Wife has the tv turned up and I'm having trouble trying to follow.😂

Are you saved by keeping commandments or is salvation a free gift to them that believe Paul's gospel. Your answer determines where you will spend eternity.

I am a confessional (1689) Baptist, and I really appreciate both you and Michael Vlach. I am premillennial, and I hold to a futurist interpretation of Revelation. Thank you for making these videos. Keep them coming!

Revelation 10 is 9/11 czcams.com/video/5asj_4jHNuE/video.htmlsi=qG6OCt1GjanlOn7v

Common man , Thought shalt not steal . The "nation of "Israel " is killing Christian Palestinians . Ask the Christians there if they think that " Israel" are the " Chosen" of God ? They are stealing their lands for crying out loud and butchering Christians !

I may have missed it but the following verse is seldom included by Futurists: Revelation 1:19 (YLT) 'Write the things that thou hast seen, and the things that are, and the things that are about to come after these things’ This verse indicates that John had NO intentions of writing about the distant future. We can probably trust the time statements given to the original audiences.

When futurists say that a pre 70 AD dating would not disprove their futurism, this is the single most disingenuous thing they could say that immediately robs them of their credibility. That is plainly and glaringly a signal of a commitment to a theological system rather than honest exegetical deduction. It does not have even the semblance of reasonableness to say that if it could be proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that Revelation was seen and written in say 63 or 64 AD, that it is still likely that it was referencing events thousands of years in the future pertaining to a future temple even when the one right in front of them was still standing. That is desperate and shows that it really isn’t about trying to arrive at truth but about rescuing a theological system at all costs. If you stood to gain large sums of cash by placing a bet on what the truth of the matter was in such a scenario, and you didn’t have to tell any of your futurist friends how you got the money, we all know that you would be an absolute fool to bet futurist. Please stop with this particular line, it is bad faith. I’m willing to say as a (still) convinced preterist that my reading depends on the date, futurists should too.

Hello Brother Peter and blessing's to you. Great video as always and one that prompted this question while viewing it. Have you ever thought about creating a video concerning the three world ages discussed in 2nd Peter 3: 5~13 ? I'm convince this would make a great follow-up to this presentation here. Thx, and as always I'll be seeing you here, there, or in the air. Blessings.

I think that capitalization of pronouns for God within the English language is completely appropriate. I've heard it argued that there are some places in Scripture that are vague, therefore it can't be clearly discerned that it is in fact God being referred to, like angelic occurrences, wrestling with Jakob, appearance in the fire in Daniel, etc. It's my view that whenever it is clear God is being referred to, it is not only preferred, but helpful to the reader and context to know God is being referred to, as you read through the passage, this is especially true in the New testament where pronouns are used continuing a thought process. Obviously this is not a requirement, other languages do not have it, I get it. But uniquely in our complicated English language, we have the ability to do this, I think it is respectful. More importantly it is odd to me that a translation like the HCSB Bible would use capitalization, then its predecessor the csb would take it away, that seems like an unforced error. Bottom line when I read scripture knowing God's being referred to, along with other people, as occurs in the New testament, it is hard to see God's pronoun and the reference to a person, the same, -to each his own🤷🏼

Christ would not tell Jacob His name in Genesis 32:29. In Judges 13:17-18 He told Manoah His name was secret. At the very end of the Book in Revelation 19:12, at Armageddon, He still has this unknown name. It is the name of God, His new name, that He will write upon us after He returns (Revelation 3:12). Which means this name cannot be found in the Bible. If Christ returned 1,954 years ago in 70AD, then surely by now at least 1 preterist should be able to tell us what this new name is....but none can. And if He returned 1,954 years ago in 70AD surely at least 1 preterist would call Him by this new name....but they do not. When a bride (church) takes her husband's (Christ) name it is not a forgettable moment, so why can't the 70 ADeists tell us this name? In Zephaniah 3:8-9 we read that at His coming we will serve Him with 1 consent & 1 pure language. If He came back in 70 AD, why have we had multiple consents (denominations) & multiple languages (doctrines) ever since 70AD? At Christ's return the 7th trumpet sounds & "there should be time no longer"....yet here we are 1,954 years later & preterists still use schedules, calendars, & alarm clocks. 1 Corinthians 11:26 says that we take communion until He comes again. So if He came back in 70AD why do preterists still take communion today? Christ said the tribulation would be like no other time in history. More Jews were killed in WW2 than during the 70AD siege of Jerusalem. Revelation 18:21 says that harlot city will be thrown down & never found again....but Jerusalem stands today. And archaeologists have been unearthing things related to the 2nd temple. Did the Bible lie or are preterists deceived? Jesus told Peter that we must forgive our brother until 70×7. This wasn't random numbers. God does not speak flippantly. These numbers were a direct reference to the 70 weeks prophecy. After 70 weeks we get new sinless perfect bodies at the resurrection/rapture. After that we won't need to forgive or be forgiven by our brother because we will be sinless. Are we sinless now? No. Are we still required to forgive our brother today? You better believe it. That means that 70×7 has not happened yet. It didn't happen at the cross & it did not happen at 70AD.

What does the nicene creed say ??

Irenaeus may have expected a future antichrist, but he also fully expected it to happen SOON. in the surrounding chapters to the one referenced here, he says that the end of the world is 6000 years, and how fitting it is since the world was made in 6 days that it be destroyed in that many thousand years.

Another excellent episode with the promise of at least 2 future episodes😂. Great stuff with the kings

The structure and knowledge that was shared to create and still works,,, only if you work it...

In the Septuagint version of the Bible, Goliath was more like a 6’9 tall guy, (about 2meters) … Septuagint definitely older than masoretic text so it might be closer to the truth than most of the Bible’s people read today… he was not the giant people turned him into 😂

The 7 kings of Revelation are not the only issue neither. The 10 kings who give their authority to the beast is probably a bigger issue. They at least try making the the 7 kings work though they epicly fail but there is no way they can ever tell us of a 10-king confederation that gave their authority to the beast anywhere between 66-70 AD. Neither can they tell us of the 3 kings uprooted by one.

Can God tell time, or is He able to communicate it in human terms? Much has been said of many words in the Bible being meaningless, because God cannot tell time. I hear people say, words as near,at hand,quickly,He is at the door, the hour has come, has no relevance to the audience they were originally given too. I won’t get into hermeneutics and Audience Relevance, what relevance it had to who it was handed to which, in and of itself says enough to show they did mean what we think they do, and to the ones it was written too. But I thought even more so, what saith the scripture. Luke21:8 Jesus warned the disciples saying, there would be some that say, the end is near and told His disciples, to reject them, they are false prophets. And then in Matt 24:32-33 Jesus gave them signs that they could depend on to know that the end was near. So question is, does God understand what is near and what isn't? And if Jesus says someone is a false prophet when they say near, yet it isn't, then what does that make Jesus when He says something is near, and it isnt ? People like to use Peter’s statement out of context . Even though God Himself is Infinite and a 1,000 years isn't anything to Him but as a day, does that mean when He is speaking to humans in human terms, He does not know how to communicate to us in terms we can understand? Did you know, nowhere in scripture, nowhere does the futurist say, at hand, Shortly, quickly, the hour is now,it’s at the door, means anything but, immediate fulfillment to the audience it was given to, except, .… Christ coming. They change the definition. Look at Jesus telling Judas John13:27 what he does, do quickly, what happened immediately after? Does Jesus know what quickly means? Rev3:20 Jesus says He is at the door, is He ?Because James, speaking of Christ coming in judgment says, He is at the door, was He? How do we understand what being at the door means in one place, yet doesn't mean the same in the other? One we understand it means, immediately upon, the other is, who knows? What they say at least. Why did God inspire James, to even use the analogy of being at the door, a picture of nearness? Act2:7 what did “quickly” mean? Multitude of passages where every instance of, shortly, quickly, at hand, at the door meant exactly what, common sense tells you it means, …except His coming? Interesting to note, every place there is a long time being communicated by God, for some reason He communicates correctly in human terms. So all long term and all short term,… but His coming, God can communicates in Human terms. Yet Jesus in every place He mentions, when He is coming, He specifically says, it’s in His generation. Matt 23:27,28 Matt 24:33,34 Rev 1:7 to mention a few. Yet again all of these are incorrect predictions, Jesus must not have known the generation either,because He said Matt 24:36 the father only knew, the day and hour, yet right before v34 , He said He did know the generation. I believe if we lay all the scripture out where Jesus predicted His coming, we would see He is clearly saying, He is coming back in that very generation that He was speaking to His contemporaries in, but the day and hour of it, that was held only by His Father. With that said, Jesus disciples did know, what generation He was coming in, and God inspired them to write to their contemporaries in human terms, as, shortly, quickly, at hand, the hour has come, the Judge is at the door, because they knew the generation, and was only waiting for the Fathers day and hour to arrive. Next we’ll look at Israel, where they were punished for saying what God said was near, wasn’t. Do you know where that is?

Under Julius Caesar, Rome was still a republic, just as Rome was under Sulla who also held the office of Dictator. Dictator was an official position used during a time of upheaval in the period of the Republic. Augustus is most definitely the first Emporer fir which there were five of the Julian-Claudian dynasty. Augustus (aka Octavian), Tiberius, Caligula, Claudius and Nero. Thete there is the 'year of four emporers' of which the fourth is Vespasian who was the first of three emporers of the Flavian dynasty. Vespasian, Titus and Domitian.

Dr Andy Wood explains soon vs quick. He does an 80 hour study on Revelation........which I have not finished. He's a Dispensational believer. 😊

I think the four pillars, or four corners that are essential for the case of Dispensational Pre-millenialism are as follows. The Millennial reign of Christ- is literal with His presence in bodily form on the earth with complete authority over all the nations with a 'rod of iron'. This is future and is yet to happen. The Tribulation. Seven years long, literally. The last 3.5 years in particular being the darkness 3.5 years in history. The carnage is unparalleled. The Rapture of believers, both past and present believers at the time of the rapture. Primarily a pre-tribulation rapture but not exclusively so. Mid Tribulation is a possibility (post trib is nonsensical in the light of 1 Thessalonians). The rapture has clearly not happened. The rejection of replacement theology. The church does not replace Israel therefore the promises concerning Israel are still valid, re: Abraham. Romans 11 and the prophets speak of a redrafting and that Israel will cone to know The Messiah, Yeshua of Nazareth. Dispensational Pre-millenial eschatology is the most coherent framework. The plain reading of the text and their application has a much better grounding then the other eschatologies that rely more upon allegory and therefore open to a much broader interpretations that become almost meaningless. Like building on jelly (jello for my American friends) Pick up a history book and nothing from Revelation 5 onwards has happened. No one has fulfilled the criteria required of The Beast. These things are yet to happen.

One of the things that I am surprised that you did not bring up was the rebukes of the 7 churches as it would be 5-8 years after their establishments. There is no pattern of rebuking in the Old Testament that soon although there is towards the generation following. 20 some years after their establishments makes much more sense.

Excellent stuff! Thank you 👍

A little, very little, pejorative at times. Yes, we all have our views , world views, personal upbringing and context. But, we all strive for internal consistency in our own minds. Thank you for calling us preterists, friends. Love br. David - Canada.

Thanks, at least we are having the conversation. See Bruce Gore and R. C. Sproul (last days according to Jesus videos), Ken Gentry. etc.

God allows MANS evil to run its course but under his patterned timeline and agenda. That repeating pattern is revealed in the seven seals and seven Churches, each seal and corresponding church representing a 1,000-year day, and each day having its own set of 7 trumpets and 7 vials. The 7 trumpets are 4 progressive leading (morally failed) cities/nations ((12 tribes into Egypt and 12 tribes out of Egypt) this is why there are 24 elders), and 3 major wars/world wars, and the 7 vials are 7 events of the last major/leading city/nation of each day (each city/nation a spiritual Israel and a head of the dragon, Rev 17:9 (KJV)). The 7th trumpet and the 7th vial are simultaneous and end each 1,000-year day with God destroying civilization and bringing hell on earth (the pit) and thereby sealing the day, 6 The words of the Lord are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times. Psalms 12:1-6-8 (KJV), {this is how he sealed each 1k year day, the 7 seals.}, the coming “great” desolation being the eighth and last time. Rev 17:10-11 (KJV)., and God decides what truths (and lies) are passed onto the next 1,000-year day. Today we are in the 7th day/seal and God rests on the 7th day. He will allow us to destroy ourselves and the earth with our undisciplined knowledge of technology and nuclear power, the beginning of ww3 a nuclear war bringing the earth into tribulation for the eighth and last time. And after 3 ½ years of “Great Tribulation” the earth is cast into the sun (lake of fire, “the second death”) along with the evil and suffering of man (Satan and hell), and the sincere “fire fighters” (the church/adoption/lukewarm) are spewed out to a new earth (the waters above). Amen

And yet no one seems to know of or speak of a very clear fulfillment of prophecy in our recent history. We (U.S.A.) are the ones who brought down fire from heaven in Aug. of 1945 and we are the ones that gave life to the image of the beast in May of 1948. Rev 13:13-15 (KJV). The prophecy, 13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men, Rev 13:13 (KJV) The fulfillment, The United States detonated two atomic bombs over the Japanese cities of Hiroshima and Nagasaki on 6 and 9 August 1945, respectively. “In the sight of men”, means this was done on the world stage during WWII (the second “woe”). The prophecy, 15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, …Rev 13:15 (KJV) The fulfillment, On May 14, 1948, David Ben-Gurion, the head of the Jewish Agency, proclaimed the establishment of the State of Israel. U.S. President Harry S. Truman recognized the new nation on the same day. This was done using the power and prestige the U.S. earned by the act of bringing fire down from the heaven (sky). It is said that God will bless those who bless Israel, and this is true, but the following verses show us that the “Israel in the middle east is false” and is not to be blessed. 9 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son. 10 If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed: 11 For he that biddeth him God speed is PARTAKER of his EVIL DEEDS. 2 John 1:9-11 (KJV) AND 9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his. Romans 8:9 (KJV) You can’t have it both ways, 8 A double minded man is unstable in all his ways. James 1:8 (KJV) 43 Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof. 44 And whosoever shall fall on this stone shall be broken: but on whomsoever it shall fall, it will grind him to powder. Matt 21:43-44 (KJV) And 15 And ye shall leave your name for a curse unto my chosen: for the Lord GOD shall slay thee, and call his servants by another name: Isaiah 65:15 (KJV). The second beast of lies, saying “one nation under God” and “in God we trust”, indeed the “father of lies”, did bring fire from the heaven, (Greek Strong's Number: 3772...(through the idea of elevation); the SKY...), and did set up a false Israel in the middle east, (proven false by this verse among others 9 ...Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, HE IS NONE OF HIS. Romans 8:9 (KJV)). This Israel has been and is the catalyst of “wars and rumors of wars” making it the image of the first beast of warmongering , Germany, who’s head was wounded in WWI(1st harvest, woe) and healed enough to bring about WWII(2nd harvest, woe). You couldn’t get a better fulfillment of prophecy. For these events to happen again would negate the prophecies altogether. And it is asinine to think these events are happenstance and ignored by the prophecies of God. No sir, either God’s timing is off or yours is. And this leaves only one “woe”(WWIII) left, the war that God hates (abomination), a war that makes the world desolate. 7th trump and bowl are simultaneous and plunge the world into 3½ yrs of great tribulation. If the truth were being told then the prophecy of Matt. 24:14 would have occurred years ago, shortly after the advent of the world-wide-web. This fact proves that the prominent teachers are false teachers. I suggest you forget all that you have been taught and come to the bible (KJV) with sincere want for truth, and not to consume it upon your lusts, but that you may do true worship and obedience to God, with a repentant heart, and with reason and logic the Spirit of God will teach.11 … in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so. Acts 17:11 (KJV) All glory to God. Amen

Over the years there have been many claiming to have the Holy Ghost and have guessed at what the "mark of the beast" is; tattoo, ss#, computers, micro chip, vaccine, etc., when all along the answer is in the bible (KJV). The Holy Ghost does not guess. What do you do every time you buy or sell? You pay taxes and you make those taxes by working with your hands. Everybody COUNTS money and it’s that money (taxes) the poor paid to Solomon (“the number of a man” or represents a man) in a time that the nation of God had turned their back on God 1 Kings 10:14-15 (KJV) It was this tax that split the nation, 2Chron. 10:1-18-19. Just like the taxes you pay to support a nation that has turned its back on God. It was God that initiated the narrative of the “mark of the beast” not Satan, 4 … for this thing is done of me. … 2 Chron 11:4 (KJV). The U.S.A. (a principality) “in God we trust” and “one nation under God” Satan is a liar and the father of it, Rev 14:1 (KJV). It’s what you use your mind or hands for and who you support (worship) that gives you either the mark of the beast or the Father’s name, Eph 6:12 (KJV) 16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark … or IN their foreheads (mind): Rev 13:16 (KJV) A demon is an evil thought i.e., a lie. A devil is a person that carries out that evil i.e., a liar, Matt 15:18-20 (KJV). Satan is the POWER that these devils have i.e., the father of lies U.S.A. “in God we trust” and “one nation under God”. God has never given an unbeliever the Holy Ghost it takes to exist in HIS spirit world and never will. If satan is who the so-called Christian leaders say that he is, (a fallen archangel), then the following valid and pertinent question cannot be answered: “Why didn’t/doesn’t/wouldn’t satan read the bible (KJV) the way the world does and NOT do what is prophesied of him and make God and his word unreliable?” 16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark IN their right hand… Rev 13:16 (KJV). You work with your hands to earn and spend money (that is taxed) to get your part of the riches of this world. You can’t buy or sell without paying taxes that support a (power) evil and lying nations. Remember the following scripture. Romans 3:23-28 (KJV). When someone is tempted to do something that they know is wrong they have a little debate in their head and lie and make excuses to justify the action they want to take. Just like the story of Eve and the talking serpent. A talking serpent is a fable, 2 Tim 4:4 (KJV). A talking serpent symbolic of the lust of the flesh; is truth. The power of those that give into this serpent is what God calls Satan, or to be more specific, the power of those that use and abuse the laws of God “to steal, and to kill, and to destroy” the poor, fatherless, and widows, is what God calls Satan. A principality (civilized government). And any who support him, through lies or evil plans (mind), or with works (hands) are his angels. Hence the mark of the beast. Through providence seven times God has raised a civilization with his name to a major power and seven times it has turned it’s back on God and been brought down to the pit of hell, through desolations of wars (the “woes” Rev 8:13 (KJV)) and by the wrath of God, today’s civilization being the eighth and last time; Rev 17:10-11 (KJV). In translating the bible (KJV) God maintains the integrity of the number “six hundred threescore and six” as being the number of Solomon. When you go to Ezra 2:9 we see the word “threescore” is used for the number sixty but when you go to Ezra 2:13 when the number 666 is translated it is translated as “sixty” not “threescore” thus not allowing us to confuse “six hundred threescore and six” with the man Adonikam. This fabled satan that has considerable intelligence should know that all he has to do is sit back and do nothing to bring about even just one of God’s prophecies, then at best God and his word become unreliable and then God is as fallible as man and no God. Or at worst God becomes the same as your fabled satan “a liar” and is just a power hungry being. And this would leave 2 billion+ professing Christians without a leg to stand on, not mention those that are asleep in the lord. To “rightly divide (separate) the word of truth” you must separate fact from fable, truth from tale, and principle from parable. When you sincerely study the bible (KJV) the Holy Spirit will show you that Satan is a power and a principality in high places. In more than one instance in the bible (KJV) high places is referred to as governing seats and rulers, it is not some other dimension with literal ghouls and spirits floating around waiting for a vulnerable human to consume. As for “prince of the power of the air”, when you enter a house with undisciplined and disobedient children you can feel the contention and strife in the air, when you go to a neighborhood ran by gangs you can feel the tension and fear in the air, and every day more and more you can feel the division and hate in this nation (U.S.A.) the great “liar”, “in God we trust” and “one nation under God”. If you love your neighbor as yourself you will not want to support a power that steals, kills, and destroys. But it is a great sin to allow your family to die from neglect. We all must have food, clothing, and shelter. Hence “all have sinned and came short of the glory of God”. But a bigger/better and more of, TV, car, house, job, vacation, and jewlry are not needed. These things and the lust for them propagate the evil in this world. 27 Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, to visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world, James 1:27 (KJV) Remember wherever your treasures are there will your heart be also. And if your heart is of this world you will be destroyed along with this world. To be saved you not only have to believe in Jesus, but you must believe his testament that he signed off on with his own blood. “If you love me keep my commandments”. Salvation is free to all and cannot be bought (grace), but once you accept this “grace” the bible (KJV) tells us we are to work out our own salvation by the works of our faith without wavering and not to willfully sin. To mark something or someone is to take note, such as “mark my words” and like when the bible (KJV) tells us to mark him that causes contention in the church. You must remember that God is the ultimate judge. It is God that will take note of the reasons for the works of your hands and mind (what is in your heart) and judge whether you have the mark of the beast and will be destroyed as the beast or you don’t have the mark and will be adopted and chastised and forgiven by his mercy and grace, Psalms 130:3 (KJV), and Rev 20:12-13 (KJV). Most professing Christians believe we are in the last days and near to the wrath of God, but they choose to ignore a commandment of God given by John the Baptist. Luke 3:7->11<-14 (KJV), this is the gist of this whole teaching because as long as you have more than you need and there are those in need then verse 11 convicts. Don’t take my word for it, or any bodies for that matter. Come to the bible (KJV) with a clean slate and with sincere want for truth, and not to consume it upon your lusts, but that you may do true worship and obedience to God, with a repentant heart, and with reason and logic the spirit of God will teach.11 … in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so. Acts 17:11 (KJV) All glory to God. Amen

Peter, don't toss out resources that you recommend we research and then NOT provide the links to where we can find them! Who is Jeremy Sexton? Mishka? Give us a place to look where we can find their work! Thanks.

The chronological timeline through history follows the great statue of Gentile man's kingdom in Daniel. The split of the two legs which make up the kingdom of Rome happens in the 4th century. The ten kings/toes/horns follow in succesion. And out if which the very last kingdom of the little horn (power/kingdom comes to be brought to a close.

After the destruction of the Temple in 70 AD and the coming of Christ, the concept of a physical "House of God" or "House of worship" lost its biblical significance. In the New Testament, Jesus emphasized that true worship is no longer tied to a specific location. In John 4:21-24, He teaches that "true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth," rather than in a specific building like the Temple. The early Church understood that the believers themselves were now the temple of the Holy Spirit (1 Corinthians 3:16, Ephesians 2:19-22), making the idea of a physical building as "God's house" obsolete. Calling a building the "House of God" ignores the New Testament teaching that God’s presence dwells within His people, not in man-made structures. Therefore, attributing sacredness to church buildings reflects a misunderstanding of the spiritual nature of the Church post-Christ’s resurrection and the destruction of the Jerusalem Temple.

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Really liking the eschatology content lately

Great work! Loved the breakdown of the 8 kings!

Thank you. This was very helpful and objective.

Consistent Preterism I really dont know what to say about the point of, if Revelation was written in ad90 that Preterism falls on its face. What I will say is, this can be said of any teaching. Let me explain, if you cannot contextually and hermeneutically, show a “gap” in Daniel 9 the 70 weeks, which you cannot show, then futurism falls flat on its face. So much I want to say on Revelation with every chapter showing unquestionable evidence that Revelation to written before ad70, yet because of the sheer volume and irrefutable “internal evidence” for the early date, and so much space here, I thought I would set the proper foundation, for understanding the entire book of Revelation. Hermeneutically you cannot take the letter as here in Revelation, from the intended Audience it was written to nor, “their” time statements, as we will see. Preterist will always start with Hermeneutics, the rules of interpretating scripture. The first rule is “Audience Relevance,” what revelance was it, to who it was written and handed too. Anything not logical so far? CH1, please take time to read and see how clear the message is, that it was written to the seven Churches in Asia, in fact names each one specifically. Revelation was written to them, for them, Rev1:1 is the referent passage for the entire book. In fact, this is the reason it was written, that is, to “tell them of things shortly to come.” Hermeneutics has a famous axiom: “If the plain sense makes good sense, seek no other sense.” How can anyone read chapter 1 and not see it was to them, for them, things they would shortly see? Notice all of the first generation fulfilled language as we go. Seven churches in Asia, telling “them” what things are shortly to come. This is, their time statements not ours, it is, not shortly to us, but shortly to them, Audience Relevance. If I showed you a letter I found from my great, great grandfather to my great, great grandmother where, In the late 1,800’s he was coming home, and will see her “shortly”, and I told you I was so excited, that I was about to meet him because, the letter clearly said, he’ll be here shortly, look for yourself. What would you think of me? I’ve lost my mind, right ? See this breaks the rules of interpretation, audience relevance, it was relevant for my great, great, grandmother, only and in her time, in the late 1,800’s. This is not for anyone else nor for another time frame. Does fulfilled still seem logical? Then Rev1:7 when He comes on the clouds, “ those who pierced Him will see Him.” Contextually seamlessly this goes Perfectly with, what Jesus said Matt 16:27, 28 “Some standing here will not die until they see His coming in power”, in fact contextually compare Scripture References: Revelation 1:7; Daniel 7:13; Zechariah 12:10; Matthew 24:30; Matthew 4:17; Matthew 23:37-38; Acts 3:19-20; Acts 21:20; Revelation 22:12; Revelation 1:19 Let me stop, what could be said to make this more clear that those living in the first generation would see these events? Is the fulfilled camp not seeing something correct here, if not,then why not ? Are there any Roman soldiers that pierced Christ still living today? As I continue, for yourself, are the Fulfilled community, trying to make a verse say what it is not saying. Notice, V3 “at hand” Not our, at hand, it was to only be relevant when, they read it. What relevance was it to them? V9 John says, “your brother and companion in tribulation” The tribulation has started and John is comforting Them, and doing so by saying that, He is in this, with Them. Who is Jesus and John thinking of when He penned Revelation, Johns contemporaries. V19 “write the things which are” this is present tense. Things going on at the time of the writing. Then, “The things which are here after,”with hermeneutics in context, you have to connect things in the discussion to the only referent in the the same discussion. This would be, v1 the referent for the entire letter, “the things shortly to come”. Not shortly to us, it has to have relevance to the audience it was given too. Also it only makes logical sense, if starting with “things that are,” then the “things which are here after”would have to connect and be relevant for the intended audience, not a audience 2,000 years removed. It would make no logical sense within the discussion. We see so far, by the language that you have read, who was on Jesus and Johns mind when writing Revelation? To tell them of the things shortly to come, at hand, companion with them in tribulation that they were presently going through as John wrote to them, comforting them, could you ever see any relevance thus far ? It was Johns contemporaries the seven churches letter. I will send the next comment to finish the proper way to interpret Revelation

Interestingly, Beale dates The Revelation in the 90s!

With the amount of anti-semitism in the world today, please don't tell anyone that I (a Christian) am actually a Jew, for my own safety. Thanks!

The biggest one for me is this one: "Because you have kept my word about patient endurance, I will keep you from the hour of trial that is coming on the whole world, to try those who dwell on the earth. I am coming soon. Hold fast what you have, so that no one may seize your crown. The one who conquers, I will make him a pillar in the temple of my God. Never shall he go out of it, and I will write on him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, the new Jerusalem, which comes down from my God out of heaven, and my own new name." (Rev 3:10-12 ESV) Notice that Jesus is telling a first century church in Asia Minor that he will keep them from the hour of tribulation that is coming upon the whole world. On any other view of the timing of Revelation, there is no event that this fits this. It has to be the same events he was talking about in Mark 13etc. Also notice that the language of the blessings that Jesus is telling them he will give them is directly from Rev 21&22... if those events are 2000+ years in the future, these Philadelphian Christians are still waiting.... So anyhow, on your view, what is or was "the hour of tribulation that is coming on the whole world" and how would a 1st Century church be spared of that calamity? Thanks!

Why not bring Don Preston on to talk this through? He seems to be open to talk. However those who don't agree with his position appear to dodge.

WOW !!! Believe this maybe the only time I have ever witnessed Mark Ward step outside the box.

Fantastic as always!

To my count, Paul references the Second Coming at least 80 times in his 13 epistles. Frequently, he is exhorting us to look for His coming in the clouds, to be ready for the Bema, to live in a way to receive rewards (one of which is a crown for eagerly anticipating and loving His appearing!), etc. The postmill form of preterism robs the believer of that blessed hope. Why are they so bent on denying the imminence of Christ's return?

Rev 3:11: Behold, I am coming QUICKLY! Hold fast what you have, that no one may take your crown. (Christ speaking to the church at Philadelphia, emphasis mine) Ok, Jerusalem destroyed in AD70, but Philadelphia is 600 miles away. If Christ "came" in AD70, what effect do preterists think this had on Philadelphia? Just seems so strange. In Gentry's eyes the 7 churches are tied in with AD70 in some way, but I don't get it.

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