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Dog ACL / CCL Injury: A Non-surgical Approach - 2 Year Update
Old tiggerpoz site is gone but here's an archived version: web.archive.org/web/20220208071026/tiggerpoz.com/index.html
This is a follow up to the original video documenting my dogs non-surgical recovery from a torn acl/ccl on her left leg.
The original video: czcams.com/video/wCfc2epssXg/video.html
This is a follow up to the original video documenting my dogs non-surgical recovery from a torn acl/ccl on her left leg.
The original video: czcams.com/video/wCfc2epssXg/video.html
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Dog ACL / CCL Injury: A Non-surgical Approach
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Old tiggerpoz site is gone but here's an archived version: web.archive.org/web/20220208071026/tiggerpoz.com/index.html My dog ruptured her ACL in March 2016 and I opted for conservative management as opposed to surgery. I took video of her over the course of one year and documented her progress in a journal. The best source of information I found online was from www.tiggerpoz.com/ A good video ...
Thanks for your video. Is your dog back to normal running around?
My 17 months old Boston terrier is doing the exact same thing. ...back Left leg... she holds it up a lot. Vet says it is a small acl tear. I ordered her drops on tv. A months ago. Not helped much. I give her baby coated asa daily. Try to keep her from running. She’s not been to active for 3 months now. She is so young to look sad & lethargic. What do u think about a leg brace. Vet did not suggest that
Did you give her any pain meds? My male 3.5 year old dog (native indian pariah dog) is currently going through this. We started seeing lameness in december 2023, and we diagnosed it as ccl partial tear in 2024 june, since then i have been keeping him on rest and giving him glucosamine + fish oil supplements and not taking him out that much. Inside home he walks around but not as much as before. How did you manage the pain? There were two occasions where he couldn't get up at all and i had to use a towel to pull him up and he'd squeal in pain which is when i used strong pain killer tablets/injections for easing his pain, otherwise not giving him NSAIDs.
Yes this may work and be walking normal again but then what happens 6 months later when the same thing happens again because it can then you will need surgery only way to keep it from happening over and over. Surgery is very invasive and expensive. But once the recovery is over in about 12 weeks then you don't have to ever worry about tearing the ligament again there is none
Green Lipped Mussel get it live it, amazing
What is fish oil dosage and how often? Thx
What a brilliant account. You’re like the best nurse.
Thank you for making this video. I'm going through this now with my 9 year old shepherd and was weighing the surgery option. Thank you again.
Hey. Wanted to say ty for this post. It provided me with options that I think I'm going to do. Surgery is 9k now days, and that's just not in the cards for us (and most people).
Thank you for this video! Our dog was just diagnosed with this injury yesterday.
My girl was playing catch with me and she jumped off the bed yelped and started the same exact thing with her leg. I'm so glad this was my first video to watch. She is doing better but still limps on her bad side but now I know it's a bit of a long recovery. Thank you!!!! All the best to your pup ❤
My dog had an acl injury. Lots of glucosamine. Vet gave anti inflation meds. After 2 months no improvement. A friend gave me a small animal laser. Wow that was great. I now give her cbd twice daily. She is recovering awesome.
Hi there, the same thing happened to my dog. The general practitioner suspects CCL. How has your dog been doing after 1 year? Does she eventually stop limping? Does she seem to be in pain?
Thank you so much, I spent a bunch at the vet on those anti inflammatories & they pushed surgery which we absolutely don’t have the money for. Our dogs name is George & his a black lab/border collie mix. He’s been limping for a few months now & he’s around 8 years old. this gives me hope that we can help him, & i’ll walk him on short walks like you did because i’ve been afraid to take him on walks since he’s limping. you’ve helped me so much
Remember to go very slow with the walks. I only took my dog for short sniffs around the yard for many weeks. Eventually we resumed our full long walks around the neighborhood. Good luck.
Hello Steve, Can you tell me how long you kept her on anti inflammatory, and pain meds. My dog takes carprofen, and gabapentin. It has been months since her injury.
Only a few weeks. I don't think those meds are good to take for long term use.
Make sure to buy a doggie knee brace on anazon for support. It really helps them..
Awesome
Hi Steve I am in the same boat .My beautiful girl has torn her acl and I have been following what you did I’m on week 4. When do you think I should introduce light walking ? The popping sound went away but now it’s back 😢
If I recall, around 8 weeks but someone left a comment that their dog took 12 weeks before it was stable enough to begin light walks again. I never found out exactly what the popping is, probably some joint noise as it is not supported properly by the torn ligament.
Thankyou so much ! Your post has been so helpful .My girl is doing really well has begun light exercise .
the knee is unstable, they make leg braces for dogs that greatly assist in their mobility, if the knee is stable it will heal faster since I read Canines can actually recover from knee injuries without surgery but yes it requires them to rest as much as possible on the affected limb. The big reason to get a knee brace is that it lowers the risk of the dog injuring the other leg because now it has to share the load for both legs as the dog moves around.
super cool to see thank you!
thank you for this. It was awesome to see her recovery. My dog had TPLO and got a really bad infection so I am doing conservative management on the second knee. Thank you.
Until it tears again why h can happen the. Surgery with surgery u never have to worry about it again
I'm dealing with this on my 6 month old Golden Retriever puppy.
I declined my vets strong advice to have £3.5 k surgical repair of my 42kilo old tyme bulldogs ACL rupture even though he said she may not walk again because I did some research (im a doctor with 40 years experience) and found no evidence that it was any better than resting and gentle reintroduction of exercise. Sure enough after about eight weeks, she was running around again, almost like normal . a few months later, she ruptured her other cruciate ligament which is not uncommon. This one took a little longer, about 12 weeks, but again she made a full recovery. It’s now been 3 years and she has a full and normal life. I think the shape of her rear legs has altered slightly to accommodate the new anatomy but so glad I didn’t put her through this major surgery .
Tiggerpoz doesn’t exist fyi folks
Read the description.
Thank you for this video, it’s me giving some hope for recovery. Together with omega 3 and glucosamine our vet also suggested short wave infrared light therapy, i’m still waiting for mine, but there is a lot of research available showing that it helps in recovery
Hi, I would also like to try this route for my 8yr old female chocolate lab, can u tell me your thoughts on the infrared therapy? I've also read wonderful reviews on that.
Hi, @@Saraseyes611 it’s been about week and a half since we started with the near infrared pad daily (10 min on each back leg) and he has improved he is putting weight on that leg although it is not 100% like it has been before. He was also on antiinflamatories for a month so it might be the meds, but he is off them now so i will see if he’s still improving just with the infrared and suplements. If you are looking to get that infrared pad look for a near/short frequency since i found that is the one that heals and not heats. I’ll keep you updated if you would like.
thank you for posting this vedio. My sweet Shiba Inu just turned 5, she injured her right leg while we were playing and she was limping for about 2mins. I noticed she has been off load the same leg while running today and sometimes she looks completely normal. I think I will follow the procedure and hope this is minor, your video gives me a lot of confidence. I also heard doing some massage on their legs would help, wondering if anyone have tried.
Has anyone here tried BPC-157 for healing of a CCL tear? I’ve been trying to research it
Same thing happened to my pitt this week. I'd thought the limping before was leg falling asleep when he was getting up
Thank you.your videos make me stronger with my decision. I will heal my dog injury naturally
This happened to my rottweiler before she was even two years old. I tried to let it heal for 2 months, but she was still favoring it somewhat. Being such a young dog, I opted for the TPLO surgery for $10,000.00 (that's not a typo). It's a very hard 12 week recovery, with only short walks in the yard, and no stairs or running, taking her out with a sling down a ramp I built. We mostly kept her isolated to one room which was really hard. Well, it did payoff in the end, as she can now run normally on the leg. You cannot tell anything was ever wrong. Unfortunately, all the vets have told me she will almost definitely need surgery on the other leg as well at some point. Thankfully, I can afford it, and it does work amazingly. Good luck to all who have this happen to their beloved dog!
I’m feeling hopeful now this was really helpful 🙏🏾
Over the years I've had a lot of dogs with stifle problems. I just leave them alone. No surgery, no meds. The pain keeps them from using the leg. They lift it up all the time which gives it a chance to heal. Typically they put no weight on it for six to eight weeks, then start to use it a bit and by six to eight months they are back to normal. Problem I've seen with pain meds is it lets them use the leg, which delays healing. With surgical intervention the dog is dead lame for a long time after until the joint heals - about the same length of time as they would be dead lame if you just left it alone. Also, it has been my observation dogs that get surgery often have the opposite leg blow out six months later and also need surgery. I think surgery for dogs like this is an expensive scam - the "treatment du jour" - that is popular for vets to push because it is lucrative. Leave them alone and most of them will heal up in six months.
Thank you for your reassuring video! We re in week 2 of this and your video is comforting, along with the comments.
Thank you for the information!
Just today the vet got me the surgery talk ... just 8 k ...pffft ... I will do his rehab myself till he heals ...massages no jumping for 2 months plus whatever natural remedies I can come up with
Hi, wondering if you followed Max Tiggerpoz method of recovery and if so, do you still have the approach outlined? His website no longer exists, I'm afraid he is no longer with us? I was in touch with him several years ago for my last dog with the CCL tear.
I found an achived version using web.archive : web.archive.org/web/20220208071026/tiggerpoz.com/index.html
Hello i have the same problem with 11 yrs 9.5 kg please I need to contact you to know how to help my boy with cal send me your contact
Great video! May I ask a couple of questions please for my Black Lab, Kiko? 1-Did u use ice packs? 2-What was your fish oil dosage? 3-what was the total time for ur pooches healing? I’m reluctant to go to a vet because of cost, pressure on using surgery (fear if not) and manipulation as diagnoses making it worse. 4-couldn’t you just gotten x-rays instead of the specialist manipulation making it worse? Thank you for everything sir! Art & Kiko
I would love to know the answers to the same questions you have 🙏
Thanks for the hope. My dog just did this too...did you tape or brace her leg?
That’s exactly what happened to my baby. She was running so fast then I heard the scream then she came walking on three😢
My dog got hurt today. Lots of popping. Holds her leg just like your dog. 😢
Often when one leg tears and surgery is done, the other leg will tear. Research this subject and look into various alternative methods like scalar therapy, acupuncture, etc. Keep your dog lean too. Fat dogs are more likely to have joint issues and avoid early spay/neutering! as the hormones are needed for full development of joints and ligaments, etc. Wait until after 2 or longer.
I had my 4.5 yr old gsd have a tplo after a 70% tear.... Now he has 3 legs. Surgeon botched the surgery
Omg
Blessings to your pup❤
My dog tore her acl a year ago and partially tore her other acl. It seems like it’s doing much better after almost 2 months. Are there any supplements you gave your dog to help?
hi Steve, absolutely awesome video.. I am going through my dog's partial ACL Tear who also has mega Eshophagus ( ME) where we feed him in baileys chair..so surgery is definitely not an option and would like to talk to you more on this. Can I get your email id or contact # to chat with you on this to get some advise. I live in Atlanta, Georgia.
A trusted veterinarian would be the best person to chat with but I try to respond to comments here.
Thanks Steve for these amazing videos about your dogs injury..my ME Golden Doodle dog of 50 + lb got some soft tissu injury a month back and after 2 weeks of anti inflammatory meds he didn't improve as expected as we might have overdo some of his walking..he is 3 yrs old and couldn't keep him as rested as we should've..:(.. Also he has to be fed upright in chair which doesn't give rest to his injured leg..but I m hopeful that with timr he would get better probably..he is probably at your 9 months dogs heal where he walks with his 4 feets fine but initial wake up from long time sleeping is still a discomfort for him :(.. Any advise from you would be greatly appreciated
A trusted veterinarian can tell you if it is full a partial tear. For a full tear they mostly recommend surgery. If your dog is walking okay then he may have a partial tear that needs rest and time to heal, which is difficult for young active dog. Sometimes you just have to be very strict in your methods for reducing activity, like fencing areas off and keeping him on leash when he goes outside. An unhealed partial tear will be susceptible to a full tear in my experience.
What supplements did you give her exactly? And what doses? My dog an American bully, similar size to yours. She already had tplo surgery on one leg and I noticed her other hind leg is having issues but I don’t want to put her through surgery as she’s now 8 yrs old.
I don't recall the doses but it was fish oil, vitamin E, and Glucosamine for dogs. Most important is activity restriction.
@@stevestrike6867 thank you for taking the time to document the ups and downs, trial and errors and alternatives. Our dog looks and acts as lot like yours! Thanks again!
Ik this wont be seen but i just wannasay im sorryfor what u had go through my dog ended up going through same thing but the medication helped but i heard its not good to give them too much i i stopped and she got better
Here because of my kid :(
Can please you tell me the products that you used? Thanks!