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Hi Tom, yes this turned out to be a very nice loop, something I had not done before. I have removed the throttle and set the speed of this and all my ebikes to class 1 standards so that I comply with the local regulations for the trails. Hope Velotric updates the firmware soon so you don't have that issue, let me know if you hear anything or get an update! Cheers

Yea its a 104 bcd , all those specs are listed in the description in this video. Cheers

Hi Dennis, I drilled and tapped a hole in the lower part of the stem so the stock headlight can be mounted. I suspect you can also put a jumper wire on the headlight plug to complete the circuit but I haven't tested that. Cheers

@@lifebehindbarz60 what size drill bit and tap are needed?

@@denniswhite6013 Hello, if you want to use the stock bolt get a 10-32 NF tap and a #21 drill bit. You can buy the two in a package deal on Amazon for around $4. I drilled into the thickest part of the stem on the bottom side (not the cap, didn't want to weaken it). Use a little thread locker like blue locktite and nothing will vibrate loose. Cheers

I agree completely, the Vvolt is a great design and the bike was very nice to ride. The price is also in line with the current competition. The Stromer is a fantastic bike but it's hard to justify spending that kind of money. Cheers

Hi Jeff, just do a search for differential harmonic damper honda element. Cheers

Hello, honestly I have no complaints with the stock brakes. The only thing I have noticed that I haven't liked is that the rotors get smoking hot after a big downhill. Cheers

Hello and thanks for watching! It sounds like what you have purchased is correct. Your cassette will fit as long as it is a Shimano compatible unit. I'm sure you know this but make sure the splines on the hub and cassette are lined up correctly, one spline is slightly wider than the others and needs to be in the correct spot for it to go onto the hub.. I am running the stock 44t front chainring. Your chain issue might be that you have one of the big wheel Altus derailleurs, I'm running a replacement Deore unit that has smaller chain wheels. You may need to add a few more links if this is the case. Ride safe!

​@@lifebehindbarz60Anke für die schnelle Rückmeldung. Das kann möglich sein .Ich werde das wenn ich aus dem Urlaub zurück bin überprüfen. Danke ich werde mich dann wieder melden 👍

Hi Gary, yes Denver Colorado attracts all the big shows. I'm really liking the pinion design, I've seen them but this was the first one I got to ride. I was impressed with the gear ratios, it had a good low gear for climbing and a serious high speed gear with lots to choose from in between. Cheers

Hi C, yes the pinion is a great design and perfect for on and off road. I think I'll be getting a traditional bike (non-electric) with the pinion set up to do some trail riding with. If I like it there then I'll get a pinion ebike. I know they have become very popular with the bikepacking enthusiasts, very dependable with smooth shifting under power. Cheers

Yes, copy and paste the following to Amazon and you'll see it's available for around 10 dollars. Park Tool FR-5.2 Kassettenverriegelungswerkzeug Cheers

Just make sure you buy one that has a 12mm hole in it so it fits over the larger ebike axle. Don't buy one with the pin either. Cheers

@@lifebehindbarz60 Thanks! Turns out I have that one. :-)

​@@lifebehindbarz60 do you know the spline size for the spider that holds chainring I bent mine 😢

@@rccarsrus3825 Sorry I do not

Hello, you are the second person that has told me that. That has not been the case with my bike. I do have to go to pas 3, 4 or 5 in boost to get good climbing power but don't have any power loss or overheating issues like some have reported. The Summit is not my most powerful 750w hub drive bike, but it climbs well for me. I'd suggest contacting Velotric and seeing what can be done to improve your situation. This is just another example of the wide performance range of ebikes (all brands and models). I can have two of the exact same bikes and they will perform differently from each other.

Hello, that's interesting, I have never got any sort of error code with this bike. I've done sustained 30 minute steep climbs and all I've noticed is that the motor will get a little louder under the heavy load. I try hard to stay in pas 3 or 4 (boost) and only use level 5 in climbing emergencies.... maybe that is the difference? It is funny how motors vary so much from bike to bike. I've noticed that on many of the ebikes I've had, both hub motors and mid drives. Cheers

I have to echo that comment. I haven't had the overheat issue, but I find my Summit doesn't have much power on hills - it's not much different than riding a regular MTB as the motor only makes up for the extra weight - and this is after updating the chainring and cassette (40T and 8-11-40T) . Yours seems to perform much better. I have a support ticket open, but all they've said is they will update the firmware some day. Regretting my purchase at this point.

@@tomolryify Hi guys, I recently experienced just what you both are talking about. The power of the bike dropped off significantly during a ride, to the point where it was feeling like a normal non ebike. I rode for several miles like this then turned it off and had a drink and snack. When I turned it back on it was better but still not where it should be. Battery was at 90% and the motor was not hot. It seemed very strange because I was just starting into my ride and had been taking it easy. There was only one point in the ride where the bike felt "normal" to me, otherwise it felt underpowered. I'll get it out on the trails again this weekend and see how it is. Firmware update huh? I'll have to message the company and see what I can find out. I love the physical characteristics of the bike as it sits now. If this becomes an ongoing issue I'll be switching the controller and motor over to a Bafang system. I 've never had an issue with the Bafang stuff and it has always been 100% reliable for me. Cheers

Any update on the power uphill or overheating? Bike comes in tomorrow should i return it?

@@natematute8241 Hi Nate, so, this seems to be the issue..... The old original firmware download which I have on my bike (Display V054 , controller V061 , and Battery V011) works well but the new firmware update ( display V054 , Controller V064, and Battery V017) that your new bike will have has some problems. Hopefully Velotric will send out a notice soon to all Summit 1 owners that there is a new and corrected program to download to all the bikes. It's your call if you want to take the bike, do some riding and wait for the update or return it and look for another bike. Cheers

I know exactly what you are saying, it really seemed like I was doing something wrong at first when I tried to install the battery. I now gently hook the bottom in place, slide the battery at the top as far as it will go to the side, then smack the side of it with the palm of my hand to seat it. you can hear the click when you do this but I always pull at the battery to make sure it is locked in place. This is honestly the only thing I don't like about the bike, I really wish they would have put the on / off switch where you weren't required to remove the battery to get to it. I should probably try a little silicone grease on the receptacle and latch to see if it makes things any easier. Cheers

@@lifebehindbarz60 Thank you so very much. Your information is so very helpful. Especially the information regarding always pulling on the battery to make sure it is locked in place. My battery almost fell off 20 miles into my last ride because it was not totally locked in place. It is also the only thing I don’t like about the bike. I also wish you didn’t have to remove the battery to access the on/off switch like on my RadRover. Good suggestion, I will also try the silicone grease. Thank you again.

Hi Tony, the bike is a good climber, not the fastest bike I have but nice.

@@lifebehindbarz60 I'm looking for a backup emtb (have a Cannondale Moterra Neo3 as my primary) in case mine is in the shop or for friends to use. Trying to decide between this and the Ramblas. Granted, the Ramblas is $900 more.

@@tonygiancoli9626 The Ramblas is a nice bike, I haven't taken one out on trails but have ridden a demo bike around on local bike paths. Nice thing about that bike is it is ready to go out of the box (or off the showroom floor). Seems to have lots of power. I haven't checked to see if Aventon has raised their prices yet, we know Velotric has. I'm going to a huge ebike expo on the 13th of July, watch for my video from that. There may be some new bikes we haven't even heard of at that show that might be a candidate for what you want. Cheers

Hello, yes the mods made the bike way more fun in hilly terrain! Works quite well now. Please check out ebay item number 395400920174, there are several variations but all will work with your Summit. Cheers

@@lifebehindbarz60 Thanks so much for the reply! Do you feel the 40T is geared low enough for you? I see they have up to 11 speed and 50T model, do you think those would be compatible if I changed the shifter and derailer out as well? Our mountains here in Utah are steep and I can use all the climbing assistance I can get.

@@emike09 Hello, I like the 40t for the climbing around here but I understand exactly what you are saying. You could certainly go to the 11 speed 50t , but as you say you will need to change both the shifter and derailleur. Cheers

Thanks for watching! Yeah, the program I use is supposed to cut the music when I talk but it doesn't always work. Cheers

Hello and good question.... I forgot to put that in the video. The bike now weighs exactly 61 lbs. Cheers

Hello, thanks for watching! My Cyrusher Ranger is my best climbing bike on the back trails. It is completely stock in regards to the motor and controller. There is an updated / upgraded controller available for purchase now but I have not installed it. I have upgraded the forks, changed the gearing and added larger brakes. All my mods are shown in a video I posted last year. If you subscribe or go to my website ( Lifebehindbarz60.com ) you can see all my Ranger videos and they should answer your questions. Cheers

Hat denn der neue Controller noch mehr Leistung oder wie kann ich das verstehen. Ich schaue mir regelmäßig alle Videos an Danke👍

@@1hunter726 Thanks for watching! I have been told by people that have purchased and installed the new controller that it does boost the power a bit. It also comes with a pigtail for a wired rear light. If you buy a Ranger today it should have the new controller already so you won't need to purchase it separately. My is just the first gen Ranger so it has the old controller. Cheers

Ja ich habe heute gemerkt extremer Berg kein Problem .Hat das Display kein Timer ? ​@@lifebehindbarz60

Hi Anthony, yes absolutely love the fork. Can't get much smoother than a fox 36! The bike itself isn't the most powerful I have but it's good and certainly a lot of fun. Cheers

Tom, your videos are fantastic! If you HAD to choose between the Summit 1 and the Ranger, which one would you choose? Reasons why?

@@PapaJoe224 Hello, thank you very much! My favorite bike is still my Cyrusher Ranger. It has more power, a 52v battery, fat tires which make it a true 4 season bike and allow you to ride though rocky / sandy conditions much easier. studded snow tires allow you to ride in very snowy and icy conditions. It is easier to ride up long sustained climbs. Full suspension is nice (but I do love a well designed hard tail bike too). I have put close to 2k miles on my Ranger in the dirt and on rocky back roads and it has never let me down. There are some mods that in my opinion are immediately necessary, replacing the forks with something better and changing out the gearing for lower gear ratios. The Summit handles very well and weighs about 15lbs less. You still need to swap the forks for something nicer. The Summit looks more like a traditional mtn bike which can be nice when trying to blend in and not stick out as an ebiker. In the end the price will be about the same for both bikes (after necessary mods are done). Something else to keep in mind is that the Ranger just feels like a much bigger bike, almost motorcycle like when it comes to its size. Hope that all makes some sense, there are now retail shops for both bikes in the US, if you happen to be close to one I'd suggest you take the bikes out for a test ride! Cheers

@@lifebehindbarz60thank you for that reply. I thought it was the Ranger with all things considered but the Summit is surely a great second place.

Hi Tom, I have not yet looked into a dropper post, I'll save that for part 2 of the upgrades. Please check out eBay item number:395400920174 for the cassette. Cheers

Hello Werner, I love my Ranger ebike on the trails and the Trax is essentially just the step through version. I have over 1800 trail miles on my Ranger and it has been 100% fun and reliable! Can't ask for more that that!

​@@lifebehindbarz60eine Frage hätte ich noch. Ich habe gesehen das es eine Version mit 750 Watt gibt und eine mit 250 Watt. Ist das der selbe Motor nur gedrosselt ? Weil ich auf Privatgrundstück gerne ungedrosselr mit voller Leistung fahren möchte.

Hi Geoff, good to hear from you! This is definitely a nice area to ride and the day I was out it was empty! Can't ask for more than that. I have been watching the progress on your building but I'm not always able to leave a comment because I often watch on the TV and not my computer. Coming along nicely, what a great job you've done! Hope you take a break from time to time and get out on the trails on your ebike!

Hello, riding with that temp and humidity definitely takes it out of you. It was in the 90's here last week and like you I was getting out early! Here in Colorado most of the high passes are blocked by snow until mid July. Thanks for watching!

Thanks for watching! You are correct, a good hub drive bike is a very capable climber and off road bike! The Cyrusher Ranger has been fantastic for me, I've done over 1800 miles of off road riding with 100% dependability. It's just so much fun to ride, you can't ask for more that that! Cheers

Hi Terry, Silver Plume is a really cool tiny "living ghost town". Everyone I saw there was really nice and told me how hard they work to not let the town turn into a tourist trap. Some unrestored buildings, dirt streets, only typical small town stores, etc, make it a pretty cool place to live. All I saw on this ride were deer, when I go up to Rocky Mountain National Park next week I'll get footage of all sorts of wildlife! Cheers

Hello, sorry I don't have any information on battery compatibility between models. You'll need to contact the manufacturer for that. Cheers

Not that I'm aware of. The stock shock is a really good unit with a lot of adjustability.

Hi David, yes all modern mtb's seem to have that short / low rise stem / bar combo! In my opinion it's why you see endless over-the-bars crash videos on CZcams! I have added the Amazon part descriptions to my video description, just copy and paste to Amazon and it should all come up for you. Cheers

Thanks man! Also have you had any issues with the Apple find my on the summit 1? I can get it linked up fine and see it on my iPhone. But after a day or so it won’t be able to find it. Even if I’m on the bike. Have to reset and do it all over again, and then eventually it won’t work again. Lame

@@davidiliyn Hi David, you're welcome. Honestly I haven't even tried the find my feature. If I was riding down in Denver where bikes get stolen all the time I'd use it, but where I live in the mountains my phone doesn't even work half the time so things like that aren't really useful to me. I'd check with Velotric customer service and see if it is just something easy like a setting causing it to do that. Cheers

@@davidiliyn I'm having the exact same trouble. After resetting and reconnecting, the bike starts beeping when riding and disconnects. The only way to fix it is to reset and reconnect Find My. I was hoping I had a defective unit, but it could be a bigger problem if others are having the same issue. I've got an open ticket with support right now.

@@mikewmorrisdid support ever come through? I’m looking to buy this bike, and Find My is a big selling point

Hi Steven, The code was VI2X2F2, give it a try and see if it works for you too! Several people that I've given the code to have had success and have been able to get the bike at the same price I got it for. Cheers

Hello, yes you are correct that this damper is only on the manual transmission awd models. Try Amazon with the following number and name; 50716-S9A-000 Rear Differential Dynamic Damper. Cheers

Hi Ed, thank you! I used the Wake stem (upc ‎782429363903 on amazon). It has a 25 degree rise and you have different lengths to choose from. I used the 70mm. The clamp cap is unfortunately not interchangeable due to different bolt spacing, but I do plan to drill and tap a small hole in the stem itself (not the cap) to bolt the light to. Cheers!

@@lifebehindbarz60 Thanks!

Hello, you will need to shop on ebay or amazon and choose a fork that fits your wheel size and tire width. Cheers

Awesome Anthony, it's always nice when you can ride a bike before you buy. It should be a pretty quick bike for the rolling hills of IL. Ride safe!

Can you give me the discount code please, I want one!

Hi Tony, that's a neoprene battery cover that protects the expensive battery from rock hits and water thrown up from the front wheel. Also makes it a little less obvious that it's an ebike, no huge logo to tip off the rangers. Cheers

Hello, the cj5's are pretty tight. I'm 5'11" and had the seat just about all the way back.