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0:53 😬

I've been following Carole for years on flickr because of the all the great pictures and had no idea about this life long project.

Omnia intellexi 😃

Interesting

Professor Luisa Aguilar , bene latine loqueris , ✅ gratulatio 👍🌹✅

the point about having a more cohesive general education system is well taken but I would gently disagree with the opposition to research or the research university model. Specialist scholarship can also contribute to general education by examining new texts and synthesizing new findings

I wonder if Andrew will tackle the most contemporary Latin, that is Legend of Zelda and Final Fantasy in LATIN!

When will John Finamore’s paper that he’s talking about in this conversation be published? And what will its title be? And where? Inquiring minds want to know! Thanks

Great discussion and interesting panelists. I am a classicists as well having taught Latin language and its myriad peripheral subjects for the past 16 years or so. I have been in private, public, charter, and international schools from middle school to IB level. It is my passion and always will be. I write courses for students in Shanghai and Hong Kong, and I am also hired by various adults to teach them Latin. At the salary teahcers get and poor healthy insurance benefits, I have to work full time and many side jobs to stay afloat. It is lucky for me that I love the work. I am watching your talk today because keeping Latin alive and kicking is very near and dear to my heart for the beneift of all you said especially that studying Latin contributes to character and making better human beings ---and more but thank you for this talk. I wish I could find 1 job to be enough to make a living with two kids in college, taking care of a sick family member, and paying a mortgage as a single mother. Yikes, this is tough. Love and huge hugs to all the teachers out there. I admire you and thank you.

So, classics is better now because we’re asking more questions. And we know that, how? Classics is better now because it used to be dominated by white rich men. This smuggles a political assumption that has nothing to do with the discipline ITSELF getting better. Classics is better because we now are more concerned for cultures which previously we didn’t study too much. This is the closest to an actual argument - but (a) the great developments into (say) Persian culture were made in exactly the period Beard is decrying, and (b) inter-disciplinary work is not a good in itself. Can it be shown to have benefited the question in hand? If I perform an inter-disciplinary study of (say) the Greeks and McDonald’s studies, yes something ‘new’ might have been added to my knowledge, but it doesn’t make it virtuous.

As an English (and French!) teacher, I remind my students that English is 60% Latin and Greek!

Bravo Prof Beard! Already posted on X that my Latin and French teacher inspired me in grade 13 and then I went on to win a Classics award. Currently reading Prof Beard's book, The Emperor of Rome. Brilliant read!

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Lingua Latina vivat et floreat !

Marvelous. Thanks for share this heartfelt conference.

The esteemed classicist takes the cake, one can have the cake and wonderlust to antiquity and learn more about ourselves engaging in arguments which delight the mind, knowing we are heirs too to everything that is interred.

15:32 "there is more literature written in Latin and Greek than anybody could read carefully in the course of one lifetime" I don't think this is accurate, at least as far as the ancient Latin and Greek goes that is studied in the field of classics. The Loeb Classical Library fills about two and a half book cases. I'm not sure how much classical literature (as opposed to stuff like inscriptions or papyri containing information related to accounting, etc.) is still missing from Loeb, but I'd be very surprised if it would fill more than four book cases when complete. Then take into account that half of the text in Loeb is English translation, so the Greek and Latin text only would fill two book cases of small, pocket-sized books. That's still not to be underestimated, but for a scholar who can spend a lot of time on careful reading, it should be more than doable in a lifetime, probably rather more something like 20 years (half of Mary Beard's career). The reason why people may think otherwise is twofold. First, the current culture in academia does not allow for spending a lot of time, if any at all, on careful reading of primary sources. A broad knowledge of primary sources is no longer valued, being replaced by a strong focus on publications and participation in conferences. Second, I think the following of what Beard says has something to do with it: 16:29 "look, we all read translations, I read translations; you know, if I'm going to look up a passage of Dio Cassius I don't instantly go to the Greek; I don't, sorry; I might go later to the Greek, but that's not my first port of call". Reading a translation is not careful reading. There's a reason we learn Latin and Greek: a comprehensive understanding only comes from reading -and re-reading- the original. If we need to work from translations, if we also can't experience the joy of fluently reading the original, it's normal that we will only be reading the very narrow literature (or perhaps even only the most relevant passages) we need for our individual research projects. Really acquiring the languages and getting fluent in them is an important key for developing an understanding of antiquity that is not just one 'cut above' (as Beard says at 20:53), but several cuts above the level at which we are working now. 💜🖤

Feminism, homosexuals, transexuals, it's great

Great lecture!

listening to the greek translation of ecclesiastes brought tears to my eyes

The most painful accent to listen to in latin for god sakes stop my ears are bleeding

*Βίλλος *Γάτης τὸν ἰὸν ἐπλάσατο, ἵνα οἱ φάρμακα πωλοῦντες χρηματίζωνται.

Ἡ Γερμᾱνίᾱ κακίστη ἐστὶ πᾱσῶν τῶν πολῑτειῶν. Καταλυθείσης γὰρ τῆς δημοκρατίᾱς κατέστη ἡ κορωνὴ τυραννίς.

Οἱ *ἐξώγειοι οἱ ἐκ τῆς Ἀνδρομέδης τοῦ γαλαξίου, ἐπεὶ μάλα μὲν μῑσοῦσι τὴν κορωνὴν τυραννίδα, περὶ δὲ πλείστου ποιοῦνται τὴν δημοκρατίᾱν, πολλοῖς *κοσμοπλοίοις ἢ θᾶττον τοῦ φωτὸς διὰ τοῦ πέμπτου κόσμου πορευόμενοι ἢ κάμψαντες τὸν κόσμον οὐδενὸς χρόνου μεταξὺ διαγενομένου δεῦρο ἀφίκοντο καὶ ἀπ ̓ οὐρανοῦ καταβάντες φωτειναῖς ἀκτῖσι κατῃθάλωσαν [καταιθαλόω] τὸ ἐν *Βερολίνῳ βουλευτήριον τὸ τῆς Γερμᾱνίᾱς.

Corona virus: ὁ κορωνὸς ἰός

Lockdown: τήν τε πολῑτείᾱν καὶ τὴν ὁμῑλίᾱν ὡς εἰς ἐλάχιστα συστέλλειν ; cf. D. 18,246 ἁμαρτήματα ὡς εἰς ἐλάχιστα συστέλλειν

Τῆς *παγκλείσεως οἱ ἀστυνόμοι τοὺς πολίτας σκυτάλαις συνέκοπτον. Ὅθεν δὴ δῆλον, ὅτι οὐ δημοκρατούμεθα. Ἡ οὖν τοιαύτη πολῑτείᾱ καλεῖται κορωνὴ τυραννίς.

Οὐκ ἔστιν ὁ λοιμός, ἀλλὰ *Βίλλος *Γάτης ὁ ἀπὸ τῆς βαθείας πολιτείας αὐτὸν ἐλογοποίει ὡς γενησόμενος αὐτοκράτωρ (τύραννος) ὁ πάσης τῆς οἰκουμένης.

English accent in that tongue. The dang "T" and "D" everyone assumes it's spoken like English, SING IT LIKE AN ITALIAN AND YOU'LL SOUND A LOT BETTER

And that's a real Latin person! In Spanish «un latino de verdad». 👏👍

Audio barely there. Just squeaks?

☹️ 'promo sm'

Quis latine in publico loquitur, periclitatur: vapulare potest.

for anyone interested in what he says from 0:29 heres a rough translation "mr bondo is very cool, he should be president of the world, i love him very much but not in like a gay way, i think about roman empire every day, lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, cheers"

Pulchra Linqua Latina viva

I've been fluent in the phrase 'note bene' since I was a medium-sized child. I also know roman numerals. I'm no slouch.

'Promosm'

This was helpful and encouraging. Thank you.

I listened with great pleasure. ❤

Euge! - «Luke, his arms wide!»

Patriciae maximas gratias ago pro facultate data de tam iucundo argumento Latine addiscere. Facundiam eius laudo ac osores nequissimos in contemptu habere ei suadeo.

Not sure this Latin text with its distinct American accent, rythme and prosody would approximate the original Latin pronunciation close enough for it not to provoke a glimmer of a gentle smile on Virgil's lips. A fascinatingly bald and worthwhile experiment all the same. Many cheers!!

Gratias maximas pro acroamate, non minus iucundo quam docto. Spero fore ut alia acroamata Novi Eboraci proximo praeterito conventu habita quoque mox in lucem editura sint.

Difficile est intellegere quae loquitur. Vocabulum eius est inopes. Audire eam dolore est. Miserandum.

Great!

A North-Easterly eagle approves this lecture 🦅

Thank you very much, I love you!

Brilliant! I am currently writing an article on Emerson’s “Experience” and the consolation genre! Thank you for your information!

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