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This channel is about the automotive info of the world. Auto dealer films featuring classic cars and a few modern.
In depth classic car information from the source.
In depth classic car information from the source.
1958 Plymouth VERSUS Edsel... Shoot out!
The recession and the looks would be a double whammy of death for the Edsel? Was the styling unique? Good bad? Plymouth goes toe to toe against the lower end Edsel... Ford was desperate to compete with a upper range brand as those brands themselves were dying off( Desoto, Olds...)... GM had the money to keep Oldsmobile on for quite some time... Chrysler didn't have those deep pockets...
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1955 Chevy DEALER Film... CHEVY IS TIRED OF FORD'S BS... GOES KAREN ON Ford and Plymouth!
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TheAutoChronicles.com Chevy goes FULL SEND on Ford's BS... The Ford lies, and deception? Just throwing it all out in the open to give the sales reps handfuls of "ammo" to throw at the guy who mentions Ford.... Overloads the sales reps with everything under the sun about "Ford's Lies".... Never seen a video go quite this hard after a competitor but wow... The 55 Chevy would go onto probably be o...
Got WATER in your CAR? Pay attention to this one GREAT hint... 1951 Buick Service Film
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The one hint is critical, and its relevant even in today vehicles! Does your CAR LEAK? IS THE CARPET WET? There are some great hints and trick from an original GM dealer training to show you how to fix them. So check out an original vintage dealer film with some amazing nostalgia and Americana vibes.\ Check out the other dealership factory film strips. TheAutoChronicles.com
CLASSIC CAR PRICES ARE CRASHING! Look out! ... stop it :)
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This is just the latest video scam im being emailed... stop it... stop sending me these...
GM FIlm: 2005 Grand Prix vs Altima... Pontiac's last breath before the end...
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Pontiac... It became just another brand that GM obviously didn't really give a d@mn about.. Sad state... They would fire up the G8 in some form of attempt to say "HEY were a performance car brand" but it was too late... To many generic cars and Chevy rebadges killed it off...
[1954 Dealer Film] Who is your average Corvette buyer? Part 2 of 2! Vintage colorized
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Had a small scratch on the record but this film is still a great rare find. 1954 Corvette salesman film, get out there and find a rich executive!
1954 Corvette FIRST promo film, Colorized part 1 of 2
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I'm proud to present and amazing film from GM about the FIRST AMERICAN SPORTS CAR to be mass produced. This car hit it out of the park in 53... It was introduced late in the 1953 model year and produced through 1962. This generation is commonly referred to as the solid axle generation, as the independent rear suspension did not appear until the 1963 Sting Ray. This film is the DEBUT FILM from G...
The 1965 Chevelle - Selling 7 points... Refining the Chevelle to become a Legend...
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The updates for the second year of Chevelle. Still has a frame!
1969 Chevy Pickup... When no one wanted pickups! So, you're stuck with a truck... Times do CHANGE!
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Lol well adding things like AC helped... real radios... power seats! comfort... Slowly car makers realized people wanted a truck with options... and gave them better rides also.
1958 Plymouth The Lead Story in Performance: Golden Commando can't be beat!
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1958... Chrysler gets some time to breath and refine the 57 cars and introduces the Golden Commando!
1958 Plymouth, Christine LEADS the way!, ultimate finned 50's car? Dealer Film Part 1 of 2
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This was not AI colorized, the film was color corrected and it did a fairly good job but some were obviously miscolored. This is part 1 of 2. Next week will show the engines and drivetrain, discussing the Golden Commando engine. So stay tuned.
All the 1965 Chevy Accessories from AM/FM radios to Luggage racks! Dealer film
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The whole gambit of accessories for 1965 Chevys. AM/FM Radios, AC, Power antenna, bumper guards etc...
1957 Ford vs the Pontiac, Why buy that bulbous Pontiac when you can get a Fairlane 500?
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I kind of see the point on this one a bit. I think Pontiac seemed like an afterthought in 57 for GM. They pretty much took the chevy and added some Chrome bits on it...
Amazing vintage film- 1961 Chevrolet! The NEW Look of Distinction [Dealer Film]
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One of the best films, a great piece of Americana! Surprised this was only shown to dealer!? These internal dealer only films were not made public. The 1961 Chevrolet, The NEW Look of Distinction. 1961 Chevy.
[Dealer Film] 1955 Desoto versus Buick, don't turn on the RADIO!
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[Dealer Film] 1955 Desoto versus Buick, don't turn on the RADIO!
[Dealer Film] The 1961 Chevy full size cars and Corvette! Holy SUBLIMINAL ADJECTIVES! :)
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[Dealer Film] The 1961 Chevy full size cars and Corvette! Holy SUBLIMINAL ADJECTIVES! :)
[Dealer Film] 1961 Chevy wagons! MAKE WAGONS GREAT AGAIN!
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[Dealer Film] 1961 Chevy wagons! MAKE WAGONS GREAT AGAIN!
[Dealer Film] 1961 Chevy Trucks - Take the leap, Test the best!
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[Dealer Film] 1961 Chevy Trucks - Take the leap, Test the best!
[Dealer Film] 1959 Dodge full features and tour... Why we chose Dodge!
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[Dealer Film] 1959 Dodge full features and tour... Why we chose Dodge!
[Dealer Film] 1958 Desoto vs Oldsmobile... When GM overdid the trim...
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[Dealer Film] 1958 Desoto vs Oldsmobile... When GM overdid the trim...
[Dealer Film] 1968 Ford Torino: Most under rated 60's muscle car?
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[Dealer Film] 1968 Ford Torino: Most under rated 60's muscle car?
[Dealer Film] Dealership techniques of new car sales... 66 Caddy film... slowing you down!
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[Dealer Film] Dealership techniques of new car sales... 66 Caddy film... slowing you down!
[Dealer Film] 1966 : The Chevrolet Sporty Two-some (CORVETTE & CORVAIR)
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[Dealer Film] 1966 : The Chevrolet Sporty Two-some (CORVETTE & CORVAIR)
[Dealer Film] 1964 Chevy 2 and Corvair vs Falcon/Valient... the compact car beckons... your 2 stars!
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[Dealer Film] 1964 Chevy 2 and Corvair vs Falcon/Valient... the compact car beckons... your 2 stars!
[Dealer Film] The 1968 Full Size Fords... A great car? No respect?
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[Dealer Film] The 1968 Full Size Fords... A great car? No respect?
[Dealer Film] 1971 Chevrolet Caprice/Impala responds... gets all the girls?
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[Dealer Film] 1971 Chevrolet Caprice/Impala responds... gets all the girls?
1964 Chevy - GET A 6! Six to go! [Dealer film]
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1964 Chevy - GET A 6! Six to go! [Dealer film]
[Dealer Film] The 1960 TRUCK Shootout, Chevy blows out the competition but its UGLY...
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[Dealer Film] The 1960 TRUCK Shootout, Chevy blows out the competition but its UGLY...
[Dealer Film] 1957 Ford vs Dodge? Why pay more? Part Two!
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[Dealer Film] 1957 Ford vs Dodge? Why pay more? Part Two!
[Dealer Film] 1957 Ford vs Buick? Why pay more?
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[Dealer Film] 1957 Ford vs Buick? Why pay more?
My gramma tradewr a 1954 New Yorker Coupe for a 1958 Belvedere..With the new torsion bar suspension the car virtually leapt. NO SQUAT!
Some of the most beautiful grills found on cars of the past are vertical !
Lincoln much better looking car, that Imperial, is just down right ugly
The Plymouth is superior, even though it is considered a lower-line brand.
IMO, the Oldsmobile is a much better looking car
The steering wheel on the Plymouth is right in your view of sight
good point, but this is true of every steering wheel on every car I have owned.
IMO, I prefer the Edsel
Both junks but I would drive either to be gawked at...
I've owned both. I give the nod to Edsel for only one reason: Mopar tragically had the WORST brakes in the industry.
Really? I had never heard that. What Mopars did you own that had those worst brakes?
DeS 1955 sales 115,000... Buick 1955 sales 735,000... I guess not many buyers previewed this. Actually both were handsome and competent cars in 1955
As a GM guy I'd say the Citation was better looking and a Pacer with E475 would take out a Fury. Both suffered QC issues, Chrysler Corp. QC had deteriorated and Edsel had first year production problems
58 Plymouth had the fixes in place mostly... Not sure about any Edsel taking out Fury either. Edsel did have its first year issues...
Edsel competed against DESOTO, not Plymouth. Plymouth was the entry level vehicle that competed against Ford. Not even a comparison. .
The manufacturers of Ford, Plymouth and Chevy always compared their top models to the base models of Mercury, Dodge, Pontiac/Oldsmobile. That is why Dad bought a Plymouth Belvedere instead of aDeSoto Firesweep. Basically the same car with many more features on the Belvedere
@@eugenepiurkowski5439 the cause of brand dilution.
Yeah brand perception.
All 1958s looked good with those double headlights.
They were called "dual headlights" and were illegal until 1958.
History showed that both cars suffered a double whammy. The '58 Plymouth looked better than the 1957, in my opinion--but the build quality of the 1957 Chrysler lineup on all price levels was such that word-of-mouth killed many potential 1958 Plymouth sales. And I remember seeing replacement patch panels for 1957-58 Chrysler cars advertised in auto body trade magazines as early as the first months of 1958. And Edsel suffered the same build quality in the early '58 models, and considering Ford had made much of Edsel being totally new and thoroughly tested before the first car was placed on sale, that same of word-of-mouth discouraged potential Edsel customers (if the styling didn't turn them off)
Vs Delorean please
My money's on Christine.
With the exception of the electric shifter mechanism, the Edsel was a mechanically more reliable car than the Plymouth. Plymouth sold seven times as many cars in 1958 as Edsel, (but that includes police and taxi models that Edsel didn't cater to) yet you can find '58 Edsels just as easily as '58 Plymouths. The survival rate would seem much higher.
More expensive cars are typically maintained and cared for/retained more. Cheap cars are always disposable... people didnt realize... WHo knows maybe those 1980 Ford escorts will become collector items? EH... probably not :)
The electrical shifter mechanism (built by Borg-Warner and also used on Packards, Mercurys and Lincolns) powered the transmission shift cable with a starter motor. On hills while in park, the motor trying to unlock the heavily loaded parking sprag would burn up.
1:23 Edsel meets Christine!! 😮😮😱😱
2:17. Say hello to the lips of Deloris.
I would like one of each, please, and both with factory air conditioning. Actually, I would like a 58 Desoto Adventurer.
I can find running, fairly original Edsels, for sale, quite often. Those Plymouths, of the same time period, are very hard to find. Mostly because they rusted away, early on. The 1958 Ranger/Pacer had a 303 HP FE engine, standard. What was the standard engine in the Plymouth, a flat head six, or 318? You had to order a super rare 2x4 barrel, 305 HP, 350 B block, to beat the Edsel.
I can't find anything in the original sales brochures to indicate that any Edsel offered fuel-injection.
@@bobtepedino5661 Who said anything about Fuel Injection? Both series came with a Holley 4150 4 barrel Carburetor. The engine designation FE, stands for Ford/Edsel. Named for the car lines used in.
Why would you compare a Plymouth with an Edsel? The Plymouth was a low price car and the Edsel was more midrange. All things considered.
All the big 3 did this... Compare their upper low priced model to mid tier.... Ford compared itself to Dodge.
@@autochronicles8667I remember that Chevy compared itself to Oldsmobile or Buick years ago. They were the same car with just a different name plate.
If Ford wanted to take 😂on a mid priced Chrysler make it should have been Dodge or DeSoto.......Oops that should have been Mercury!!!!!.
As the owner of an Edsel I found this interesting.
Yeah its rare to see the Edsel in a comparison, this is the only one I believe. I would love to find a 59 Edsel comparison. Ill check my Ford and Chevy films in depth for more Edsel stuff.
I'll take the Edsel
You do know that this car had a factory mistake in it that turned it into a giant paperweight right?
Even as a kid, when these were new, I thought, Wow! about both, but for different reasons. The Edsel is just so different that it is kool, and the 57 Plymouth was so bad quality, I probably would have been afraid to trust the 58. I think the Edsel Pacer would have been for me, and if I had Oldsmobile money, a Corsair or Citation. Those were the big Mercury-based Edsels.
The 57 was rushed and they addressed the quality issues in 58.
@@autochronicles8667 Those 57 ChryCo cars were supposed to have come out in 58, but they saw what Ford had up their sleeve, so they rushed-introduced them for 57. They were actually mass-produced prototypes.
Face it they were both ugly as hell.
Olds had 12 volt electrical system, DeSoto not until 1956.
I'm sold! I'll take a red two door please!
Would you like fries and a coke with that? 😊
Love the Plymouth!
4:07 Is it my imagination or does the Edsel look like it's had some fender benders and the repairs were done rather shoddily? Note the wrinkle toward the rear of the front wheel-well, the highlight from the A-pillar at the front door sort of fades below the color cove, and what's going on behind the parking light below the _Ranger_ script? and the paint appears to be faded already, not a good look for an all-new marque.
I noticed that also... not sure what's going on with the car... I wasn't sure if it was just the film? but something definitely looked hammered.
My dad had a 1958 dodge coronet, no problems, only regular maintenance.
too bad chrysler's forward look cars didn't run as well as they looked. like the way they fess up to comparing low end model edsel to high end plymouth.
They ran and handled great. But the first-year 57s were pretty bad. Chrysler never really recovered from that.
I have a 58 Edsel Corsair. It's a pretty iconic car. But it is not a particularly good driving car. My 65 Galaxie is much more comfortable to take on long drives
You don't care for how your Edsel drives?
@@jamesbosworth4191 on a straight line on smooth road? It drives pretty well. The springs are very soft and it bottoms out easily on rough roads and it acts like the car is shaking apart. The seats in the car are pretty thin and don't have much padding so they are too comfortable after an hour of driving.
@@davidsmith-hb1jx You probably need better shocks. Strange that the seats are thinly padded, as cars like that normally have luxuriously padded seats.
all this hype by plymouth...yet i noticed they skipped over the point of rear view mirror ....plymouth is mounted on the dash in a stupid position ..what where they thinking....i'll take the edsel
I think that is a minor point... The dash mounted rear view mirror was a bad idea, but you could buy a room mounted mirror kit pretty cheap if that was your only reason for buying an Edsel :)
@@autochronicles8667after 36 years almost daily driving a 60 Fury, I see no Problem with the dash mounted mirror and it is easy to Change.
I always preferred a dash mounted mirror! I found I could see what was going on behind me without taking my eyes off the road to check. 🤷♂️
@@larrynason8716 that is true but it might be a problem for shorter drivers, since the seat adjustment is limited in these cars.
Fun! Thanks.
Pontiac more than any other division suffered from Roger Smith-era GM's unwillingness to spend the cost-per-unit to make a "premium" car feel nice. He was willing to throw billions away on reorgs and all-at-once robotization since in theory that would "scale" but not on material quality. It was the opposite of "put the money where the customer can see it", and it took GM decades to recover.
Chryco had a LOT of problems with the '57s and buying a '58 would've been a leap of faith that they had worked out the first-year bugs.
True, but Ford had a lot of QC problems with Edsel, in addition to its weirdness and poor timing.
@@seed_drill7135 that shifter was always broke...
@@seed_drill7135 the biggest problem was that it was just another mid size car...and the weird grill! 😀👍
That really chilled the sales of the improved 58s, over and above the 58 recession. Chrysler never regained their reputation after that.
You can blame Robert S. MacNamara for that. He ordered a production speedup.
The front on view alone of the Ford product convinces me. Gaze upon the ugliness. The longer you look the more you’ll want the Plymouth. 😂😂😂
I owned a 1958 Edsel Ranger and my dad had a 1958 Plymouth. I will stay with the Edsel. It's much nicer to drive and to ride in and had better performance.
Why not both?!
Why not both?!
Why not both?!@@Colorado_Native
@@Colorado_Nativelol, Grab any Period Car mag and find Out, that what you Said is wrong. Best Performance, best Auto trans, best Suspension system goes to Mopar. Btw, i Drive a 60 Fury golden Commando for 36 years over here in Germany and it still smokes and out handles Most of the new Cars. Car is still going strong at 370k miles. Contemporary Ford and GM products are no match. It's Like night and day.
I love both of these cars, but I'd have to choose the Edsel. My dream car. I just love how weird it is. (Although I'd rather have a citation/Corsair vs a pacer/ranger...)
If you are going to actually get a a first year Edsel, be ready to have to completely redo the transmission on it, and then you are going to have to cut the holes in it to put the shifter in one and you are also going to have to replace the steering wheel.
Chevy Apache :)
meiner ist auch Baujahr 1959.....supu supi geil
DODGE is more of a direct competitor to PONTIAC in the GM line. DeSOTO competed with OLDSMOBILE, CHRYSLER with BUICK, and IMPERIAL with CADILLAC. (PLYMOUTH directly competed with CHEVROLET)
I woud consider Chrysler a bit higher level than Buick... Chrysler New Yorker and 300 were very expensive cars. It was essentially Chrysler/Imperial vs Caddy/Lincoln
My parents traded a '69 Pontiac Catalina in on a new '71 Caprice and they loved it! I remember the sticker on it was $5202. My dad was in the military and we moved quite a bit so it was driven all over the USA and was even driven all over Europe when he was stationed in Germany for three years - I got to see Germany, Italy, Spain, France, Belgium, Austria, Switzerland, England and even Berlin when it was still behind the "iron curtain" from the back seat of that Caprice - talk about memories!! Many of the Europeans thought it was a Cadillac and would stare at it everywhere we went, we would come out of a store or restaurant and there'd be people surrounding it giving it a good looking over. My father (now 94yo and no longer drives -THANK GOD -lol) still talks fondly about that Caprice to this day!
Innuendo extravaganza.
I wonder if that guy with the dirty hands was a mechanic, or shelling walnuts?
The Dodge fin looks like a turtles claw with all those cheap looking nipple lights. The Buick fin looks like a fin should look. Sleek!
CHEVROLET equals, Cheap Hardly Efficient Virtually Runs On Luck Every Time.
I always liked the look of the 1955 and 1956 Fords a lot.
‘55 Hudson Hornet with Packard V8 for me :)
chevy wont tell you that first production cars have no oil filter...also ,,they brag about bonded brake lining..but wont tell you that after a few miles down then road the bonded lining can brake apart and fall off the brake shoe...or get cracked from heat ..and ford was using the y block design since 52 in the lincoln and larger truck use.....and chevy had NOTHING on the crown victoria ,,,NOTHING..i guess thats why they didnt talk much about it
I think Chrysler had bonded brake pads also but they didn't separate.
Optional oil filter and bonded brakes are used to this day
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