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Fusion 360 for CAM

Fusion 360 for CAM

Just an aluminum soft jaw.

Just manually probed it and started from the last tool.

size doesn’t matter lol

It's pretty simple. I modeled the soft jaws and dropped them into an assembly with the red part in Solidworks. Made some tweaks for the height from the top of the stationary jaw to the bottom of the new bore depth being put in. +.250 was a good number. So when probing the part the Neo always wants to probe Z first. This was the top of the fixed back jaw. Because this was the datum surface when milling the angle feature with stop it will be very close to the .250 depth when fixturing the part. So when setting up the probe routine I put a translate Z +.250 in the probing routine in the control and this was also CAM WCS Z zero. Then it picks up the bore, had to adjust the probe height too, this is done in the Neo control. Final depth of the bore can be adjusted, starting off high, then measure and adjust comping the tool in Z or in the control WCS Z. Though machine will hole position better than .0003, but position accuracy I'm hoping for is .001-.002. But keep in mind any time you re-fixture a part like this you are dealing with many error stack ups from original manufacturing and then fixturing (bore angle, side milled taper, varying depths from banking surfaces). Hope this answers your question🙂

Fusion 360, but HSM is essentially the same. If by fits you mean cutter comp for bores and features. I use wear in the cutter offset selection. You can also use + and - values in the stock to leave. If you are using wear once you have the program in the Neo go to edit and then you can adjust the path offset or Z for that specific tool path. Save/Execute and you can keep compensating and rerunning until the feature size is to your liking. Here is a link to a video I did on cutter comp. czcams.com/users/shortsx7wQwgnVelA

@@soliddesignenterprises Hi, that's exactly what I meant. Although a bit cumbersome because you can not do it in the running milling program but then I have to mill the fits last. Thanks for the help!

@@danielmoewe Ya I tend to run fits last too and leave stock on. A value to the Datron way of comping wear in the program is that it allows you to comp only that CAM tool path. Where if you were running a Haas with only a tool table it would comp every feature that had comp programmed for that tool. Same is true for Z depth comp. Pros and Cons with both.

I do lots of thread milling with the Neo😉, but sometimes I don't have a NO-GO gauge handy or if I don't have a thread mill with enough depth. In this case thread depth was my issue. The Flex-Arm tapping machine is very fast and convenient!

(1) I chose this tool path due to the thinness of the features around this chamfer. Low cutting forces were needed. (2) The L shaped part leaves very little surface area for vacuum. I do have the lowest power vacuum pump, so holding really small areas is a challenge/risk. There is always a balance between cycle time and a stable process. Because I typically run low quantities I prefer stable process. Also in production the repeatability and speed of the fixture for this part was faster than probing each part. Plus I already had this fixture from previous production before I owned the Neo.

@@soliddesignenterprises thanks for the clarification

Mine was about $130~ with vacuum. Reach out to Datron for current pricing…

Did you mean 1300 USD? because if it is 130, it is cheaper than an entry level 3D printer.

@@omnissiah9984 130k...

You seem nice

I have a very small home shop with space (240sqft) and power (220v) limitations that influences many of purchases. I purchased a Haas CM1 1st and then the Neo. Both fit in tight spaces and run on very low usage of 220V single phase power. They both have strengths and weaknesses but complement each other nicely. both great machines! Sure there are lots of hobby machines for half the price, but none that will hold tolerance cycle after cycle. It really depends on if you are trying to make money or want to hobby around. I make a living with these machines and need them to work every time I turn them on.

Vacuum work holding

@@soliddesignenterprises 白色墊的物品是什麼？

There are 2 nozzles and they run only when in a feed motion(turn off during rapids to save ethanol). I went like 8-9mo on 25gal. Really efficient system and compared to running Synergy 735 in my Haas about half the cost without the mixing headaches. Seems like they pulse back and forth. I’ve had no issues with the coolant system. It is adjustable for pressure and ethanol volume. Also it will pause the program if the tank goes low. You fill it up and press go and it continues from where it paused. Great system and very surprising to me, someone used to flood coolant.

@@soliddesignenterprises Oh ok. Thanks. I have been running ethanol for years, its great for sure. I used to have a pressurized system like datron but was having issues with a needle valve and intermittent flow, (tho I know the datron doesnt use needle valves). I run a pump nowadays so its all good. Thanks for the reply and the videos!

@@randomrouting what kind of system are you running? want to try ehtanol based mql on my mill but can't seem to find anything available besides datron

Vacuum.

The coolant is ethanol spray. Thanks! Ya some Datron tool have long reach but are extremely sharp and rigid being single flute. Yes best practice it short as you can get away with for best setup, I agree👍

@@soliddesignenterprises And the alcohol disappears immediately? Do you even have to clean the parts after milling in this case?

@@chm9400 Nope it’s cleaner than when I loaded the part.

Normally I would on a larger machine, larger cutters,2ops. Having a max cutter size of 8mm on the Neo I preferred this method. Also a low quantity.

I only use it for aluminum, brass, copper and plastics. My Datron Neo with these configuration was roughly 130k. If you want to know more about specific options and current pricing please contact Datron.

@@soliddesignenterprises thanks!

Cutters are running 32-38k RPM, 150-200 IPM and 10-20% radial load. Depends on the setup, but it’s fast and super smooth!

Most of my cutters are running 32-38k RPM, 150-200 IPM and 10-20% radial load. Depends on the setup, but it’s fast and super smooth! Some people are cutting steel and even tool steels. I don’t but reach out to Datron for more details on cutting steels.

@@soliddesignenterprises awesome, thanks for the info.

The VacuCard is really revolutionary. Being able to cut into the card past the part is game changing! It’s really changed the way I think about manufacturing process.

Correct. The pump runs full time. The control has a minimum vacuum sensor. If in the process of cutting it goes below it will E-stop. The VacuCard is necessary for the system, but the magic is you can cut into the card, just past your part. So much more useful than other vacuum systems that use gaskets to seal off the part.

@@soliddesignenterprises incredible stuff💪 thanks

Roughly 100-130k Depending on the work holding options

The Datron spindle is 2kw, 40k RPM. IPM 1102 cutting. Most of the smaller cutters are running at 35-38k RPM and 150-250 IPM. 10-15% radial load for adaptive clearing. I’m using Fusion 360 for CAM

Cutters are Datron 4 in 1 single flute! Amazing cutters and they last. They can be purchased from their website. www.datron.com/shop-cnc-tools/

The Datron Neo uses Ethanol. Works great along with single flute Datron tools!