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Too much tech, not enough mech.

This unit has al kinds of features but its build quality is terrible. Unit just stops working from time to time. Remote stopped working. Support from Korean manufacturer is terrible. Would not buy this manufacturer ever again.

Is this the Mark I or II?

Nice solution! Thanks for sharing!

I have a 5.1.4 ALL Klipsch: RP 280 F (Front Left & Right) RP 250 S (Surround Rear Left & Right) RP 500SA II (Front Left & Right Height) CDT-5800-C II (Rear in-ceiling Left & Right) RP 450C (Center) R 120SW (Subwoofer) Onkyo TX RZ50 AV Receiver Took me a couple years to budget and buy, but well worth it. Watching Atmos movies is a brand new mind blowing experience!

I know that the Degritter has a drying cycle you can use. But on the ultrasonic cleaners that do not have this drying cycle, how long should one wait after wiping excess water off the LP and putting it in a rack to dry further? I noticed that a few hours does not seem to be enough time and there must still be water in the grooves. I've come back 24 hours later and it seems that the records have always dried by then. But I'm just curious what people think on how long we should leave the records drying after their ultrasonic cleaning? I'm legally blind so it really makes it more difficult for me to be able to look in the grooves and see if there's any water or moisture still. Thanks for any help! Brian in Fort Worth 🎶

About your comparative video concerning record cleaners, three very different products same disappointing result: money very very well spent...unless you're sponsorized.

No machine, no manual cleaning will restore a scratched beaten up record. Record cleaning, any record ckeaning, is for removing dust, oils from fingerprints, residues from mishandling and storage, mold, and other conditions that relate to residues on the surface and grooves. Your testing with scrap records does not qualify as cleaning. You want to restore records and that is nearly impossible no matter which method you use. I have acquired a VPI Cyclone machine, a Degritter Mark II, and a KLAUDIO ultrasonic cleaning machine. I do follow a very thorough cleaning process and can attest to the performance of these machines. But I know that records that are scratched or beaten will never sound well no matter how much effort I put on them.

I'm sure you know that 'clicks and pops' are not all from dirt. Many are from physical damage on the vinyl, which unlimited use of the world's best cleaners can't fix.

Isn't this the same as a spin clean but just automatic and not manual? I use a spin care which is similar and I have seen positive differences. But vinyl can still be annoying when it sounds bad. I have plenty of bad sounding records but many many good sounding ones made better from the cleaner.

I have an X45 and all of a sudden the remote has stopped working. Trying to reach Novatron - no response. I am also constantly getting 'Tidal Media is loading slowly' when I am running Roon - and once that happens - I have to restart the X45. It was great at the start when i bought the unit - now it's bothersome ! Wonder if you have any experience with this kind of issue ? I have a very fast 1GB Fibre connection at home and I dont think it's the internet thats an issue as even if I play a ripped CD from the Internal drive - it just stops playing !

How do they sound and with music. Also, do you think they'll work well with a Hifi stereo system?

Thank you for the cleaning videos. In 2016, I was advised to get the Disco Antistat cleaner. I would advise you to do the same, it transformed my collection. I always felt that my cleaner was just a cheap fix and that ultrasonic was the way to go, but looking at the results of your tests I am happier with it. Unlike the spin clean model you have in the video, it uses brushes of very fine hair instaed of the velvet pads. These get into the grooves and clear a lot of dirt. It also has a different type of spinning system, where you effectively put a bar through the record and it spins on that axis. I use a battery powered drill to turn it so I don't have to touch the record. The latest edition has replacement brushes and a handle to turn the records. The only drawback is the cleaning solution provided, it leaves a film on the disc so I would suggest making your own. I would also suggest that maybe you should stop buying new American pressings. I have never heard so many new records sounding so bad.

This sounds like such a nightmare to set up. I dread this.

Nice to see a realistic build for a change! They’re usually being done in a fully equipped workshop with benchsaws, thicknessers and mills!! I mean who’s got that stuff in the garage?? But a set square, a circular saw and a pencil I can deal with!! Refreshing to hear about the warped wood, imperfections and mistakes too! Turned out great, man. I’m gonna do it, slightly modded and with manual nailing 😂

I have only one criticism of this. The spin clean system relies upon brushes that the vinyl is spun through. My concern over this system is if there are objects, in particular, hard objects, like pieces of vinyl not completely washed off of the vinyl, such a system can cause its own scratches. One of the nice aspects to an ultra sonic cleaner is nothing touches the vinyl except bubbles. In the end, while this test appears to show no noticeable improvements that can possibly justify the difference in cost, what we don't know, is if some of the clicks and pops were actually caused by Spin Clean, where if Spin Clean was never used and only the ultra sonic cleaner was, may not even be there to begin with.

Funny how your turntable is about 1/3rd the price of the degritter. I've recently bought one and found that in some cases, noise even becomes worse! I didn't really expect that, but overall it seems that results are mixed - it's not that magic bullet some people claim it to be.

If a used record was played with a bad needle, then it’s permanently damaged and no RCM can do anything about it

Rather than those legs, I might have opted for some type of shelving or cabinet below to provide storage space for other items.

The bottom line is, you can’t do anything about damaged vinyl-period. Each time you play a record, the hard diamond stylus on the soft vinyl will cause a certain degree of damage. It may be minute, but it’s there. In these samples, you’re hearing primarily damage to the vinyl. I don’t care how great ANY record cleaning machine is, or how much it costs, it WON’T erase damage that has been done to the record. The most you can expect is that it removes all the gunk that’s on the surface and in the grooves, and so minimizes surface noise. The bottom line is this: it’s how a record SOUNDS that’s important. If it wasn’t, we’d all listen to Spotify!!!

Do more of these

Nice. So, you wrapped velvet cloth around a plywood to make a panel.. Then you made many other similar panels, and put those panels on the walls. Right ? How did you attach those panels onto the drywall on the side walls, and rear wall?

Windex and paper towels would do a better job.

I just got the RZ50 today. DIRAC wouldn't connect to the receiver even though it can see it and I can ping it and I can get in the web gui. So I ran AccuEQ and am not impressed. Really annoyed so far.

People have to understand the limitations of the vinyl format. It is a PHYSICAL media where a diamond digs through grooves, and these will wear over time. With LPs even minuscule scratches will most likely be heard, because with these objective tests you are especially looking for them, looking for errors and comparing it to clean digital. You have to have a loud cut with with deep and wide grooves, max play time of 5-6 minutes per vinyl side to really get groove durability and best sonic qualities that can be compared to digital, and even that doesn't really compare, because the physical limitations of cutting sound to grooves. There are dozens of different factors in making a vinyl record and playing it, anything starting from the engineer who cuts the master, the gear used in that process, to the metal works and skills needed to press the actual vinyl. There is a whole lot of different quality raw vinyl that is used to press records etc, not all are the same quality. A batch from one factory's vinyl pellets when pressed to record can sound different than another company's raw vinyl etc. Then you have the stereo system that a person is using for listening; Their turntable, the adjustments of the tone arm, the cartridge, anti-skate, is it belt driven or direct drive etc etc. So you can see it's almost a miracle that modern vinyl records sound as good as they do! Someone pointed out that these modern reissues are not so good quality sometimes, and that is also true unfortunately. A whole lot of engineering workmanship and skills vanished in the early 90s, when vinyl was declared "dead" and people retired from the business. That is why you can usually hear that the absolutely best vinyl pressings are from the 80's, because the technology and the people doing vinyl records were at the peak of the format's evolution.

Hello I have two questions please How can I see from my cocktail audio the content of my IMac ? Also if I am streaming music can I take the stream out of the digital output ( coax or Toslink) and put it into the input digital coax or toslink amd record it in the internal hard drive? Thanks

I return mines today's receivers suck on the bass part they just messed up everything

It's a shame that the UI looks like a car radio interface from 2007.

Subscribed at “beware of gooey glue spooge “

❤wow nice music onkyo❤

I have the same theory on black in a HT, so I'm glad to find there are other crazy people out there. I find it hilarious that people do extravagant things that worsen movie watching, and they put them in a room where you turn off the light and can't see them. Paint is definitely not the way. My bat cave is using fabric track, but only 36" velvet from the screen wall. The rest is fire safe black fabric. The only reason I don't do the whole room in velvet is it absorbs high frequencies and having too much absorption messes with the audio.

The audio samples after the Degritter cycle do sound cleaner & brighter

Think you received a bad machine

Unfortunately your testing is limited to very specific problem areas that have nothing to do with the actual music. In my recordings and A/B testing when doing surfactant-based cleaning with an Okki Nokki, often the biggest change is in the sound presentation and a reduction of haze or murkiness, rather than a reduction of clicks in quiet passages. Obviously this is more difficult to demonstrate when audio samples get blocked due to copyright. I'm still curious if the Degritter could lessen the insufferable chore of my manual cleaning process, or perhaps help tackle problem areas that my Liquonox/Ilfotol approach doesn't. It's a hefty pill to swallow for a blind buy to test out, though.

Why are you crossing over your speakers at 40 and 50 hz? That is way too low especially for the small speakers you are using.

I have a Japanese pressing of Bad and it’s on the red CBS/Sony first pressing you have been scammed.

Epic review. Thanks

Verh cool but im confused, I dont understand in your measurent details which are the dimensions for the side panels..

Thanks for the video, I love it. Did you get back to manual cleaning ? Cheers !

Nice job, could you give a total of sheets of plywood you used for this project???

Thank you so much for this great review I actually bought this unit in black few years ago ( I believe before COVID-19) from an authorized dealer in US . The unit I got would get stuck when ripping CDs and in some instances it would not rip all the CD then I had to turn it off from the main switch until one day it would not turn on at all. Luckily it was still under warranty and the dealer repaired it at no cost and I was happy with them I ripped about 50 CDs which is small % of my collection ( I am vintage and have bought CDs from early 80ties to around 2015. Loved the unit in my “ mancave) and ended up buying an X35 for my office. I have an IMac connected to the router via Ethernet cable, and I have a Drobo with redundant HDs also on the same network at home. Both the X45 and X35 are on the same network via Ethernet cables. On my IMac and Drobo I have music files that I had recorded via portable digital devices ( DAT, minidisc, PCM digital, DSD via the portable digital device Is it possible to see from the X45 or from the X35 what is on all four devices mentioned above I tried to follow the instructions using the state function but it always comes back with an error message Is it possible to ask for your assistance ? Perhaps via zoom call? Thank you

This is the second video I watched from you I came here based on the excellent ( a bit more complicated for the vintage person I am and hopefully I can ask you questions in the comments section of that video) of the Cocktail Audio X45 I loved your scientific approach and intellectual curiosity in analyzing the audio files and your outspoken honesty regarding this vinyl record !! At whooping price of > 150 bucks, they should give whoever bought it a refund from the greedy price

I hate you have to do All this firmware update when buying a new receiver everybody doesn't have internet wish you could just get the unit hook it up and use it like you used to could do

I just bought this player and it doesn't seem to auto detect dolby vision when I play M2TS files, these are lossless rips of my 4k movies. Any ideas?

Are you using the same tablet as with the Denon?

1:10 😂😂😂

The problems you had with the strange picture artefacts could be related to chroma subsampling settings. Try 4:4:4 vs 4:2:2 vs 4:2:0 to see if there's any option that works for you. I recognized similar problems with my UHD disc player. It also depends on the capabilities of your TV / beamer. After testing, with different options and files, I found settings that worked fine for me.

Nice, I need one of these.

What do you think of the Okki Nokki One?

Great review thanks