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What if Russia was Never Conquered by the Mongols?
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#alternatehistory #history #asia #europe #goldenhorde #russia #ukraine #belarus
A standalone alternate history scenario (though technically part 3 in my No Mongols series), exploring what would happen if the Mongols never conquered the Kievan Rus. This had drastic impacts for the future nations of Russia, Ukraine, and Belarus, for example shaping Russia to be a strong Eurasian superpower. We will be exploring both the internal machinations and external changes that would occur without such invasions.
Chapters:
0:00: Introduction
1:08: No Golden Horde
3:49: Fate of the Rus
10:30: Neighbours of the Rus
13:49: Siberian Expansion
16:42: Eurasianism
Particular Sources:
Family Tree (also the backbone of my research for the trilogy, great book):
Morgan, David. 2007. The Mongols. Blackwell Publishing.
Music Credits:
Eastern Thought by Kevin MacLeod is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/
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Lord of the Land by Kevin MacLeod is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/
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Folk Round by Kevin MacLeod is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/
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"The Pyre" Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)
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Eastminster by Kevin MacLeod is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/
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Komentáře

  • @GKadmon
    @GKadmon Před dnem

    Iq would drop like 50 points

  • @JanosBanics
    @JanosBanics Před 3 dny

    That explains why I can't handle the piss well. 6:33. I'm assuming other pepoles I decend from are the same, Huns, cumans and avars. Also if no mongolic conquest the huns,cumans or tartars or even murkits would have simply replace them. Its a no brainer. As you stated turkic pepoles had already established themselves in persia.

  • @IAkaksjdjtjeidi
    @IAkaksjdjtjeidi Před 4 dny

    What if the Great Schism never happened?

  • @pedritopedrito_
    @pedritopedrito_ Před 4 dny

    Viva España

  • @adalfyre7937
    @adalfyre7937 Před 6 dny

    The good time line...

  • @88kjk75
    @88kjk75 Před 6 dny

    Honestly I think you've missed the easiest POD to expell the Ottomans from Europe, that being Serbian King Vukashin Mrnyavchevich defeating them in the Battle of Maritsa and capturing Adrianople, by that point the Turks were in Europe for a mere two decades.

  • @JoseArcadioBuendia43F

    It would be a shithole sure of that

  • @panose6542
    @panose6542 Před 10 dny

    Would be plausible that the Rus might develop into an "Eastern HRE" type system where an honorary leader, chosen from one of the Rus states, would theoretically rule the whole region but as years go by the practical power of the Rus leader would be reduced up until it's just a prestige title that would eventually be abandoned. in such a case, I imagine that there would be a unification movement when nationalism develops, replacing the old Rus with a new Russian empire, but specifics are hard to predict beyond broad strokes, would really depend on the status of Byzantium, Poland, Lithuania, etc.

  • @Pedro_Ferrandi
    @Pedro_Ferrandi Před 11 dny

    As a Portuguese I often wonder about such a timeline. I think that, so far, this is one of the best alternate timelines

    • @pedritopedrito_
      @pedritopedrito_ Před 4 dny

      Tú no eres de iberia

    • @pedritopedrito_
      @pedritopedrito_ Před 4 dny

      Qué dices? Uno de los mejores escenarios? Tu mujer estaría siendo apedreada en la calle por no llevar velo y tendriamos 10 veces menos de economía

    • @Pedro_Ferrandi
      @Pedro_Ferrandi Před 4 dny

      @@pedritopedrito_ É uma das melhores linhas temporais em quanto execução, porque eu acho que foi bem feita.

  • @juliasasha2029
    @juliasasha2029 Před 12 dny

    Have islam done anything good ?

    • @maesizmayonnaise2745
      @maesizmayonnaise2745 Před 7 dny

      Yes, khawarizli who invented algebra, and the Muslim scientists 1400 years ago has practiced mathematics and science, as a well as medication, if your think this is wrong, then search in google

  • @vredacted3125
    @vredacted3125 Před 14 dny

    5:08 The notion that when the Mongols came, the Rusyns, fled to Moscow, is preposterous, because that would mean they were running towards the enemy, as precisely from the area of Moscow is where Mongols came from, since they had captured the Zalesye / Grand Duchy of Vladimir-Suzdal breakaway territories 2 years before attacking Rus'.

  • @vredacted3125
    @vredacted3125 Před 14 dny

    Something important to know, for all who interested in history and/or support Ukraine: Rus' ought not to be confused with modern “Russia”, which derives its name from the Rus' but historically is a completely different state, which almost all its existence was at war with the Rus'. Just like the Holy Roman Empire was actually Germany, “Russia” is actually Muscovy, despite their best attempts to convince everybody otherwise. Its name “Russia" received only in the 18th century, when Peter I simply changed Muscovy’s name into the “All Russian Empire” (Russia originates from Rosia, name used by the Greek Orthodox Clergy in regards to Rus') Under the reign of Cathrine II Muscovites where even punished for continuing to identify as Muscovites, and were forced to call themselves Russian. Lands that Russia (Muscovy) claims were part of the original Rus', but actually weren't, are Novgorod, Suzdal, and Ryazan, since in historical texts of XI-XII centuries they are mentioned as separate entities from Rus'. They can be considered parts of extended Rus', although their culture was distinct from main Rus'. In 1493, Muscovite duke Ivan III appointed himself to be the Great Ruler of All Rus'. No other kings acknowledged that. From that point on Muscovy started to make false claims on Rus' ownership. “Russia” is an offshoot of Ukraine and not the other way round, despite what Soviet and Russian (Muscovite) historians have been trying to say for years. A Slavicised Finnic, then later, Mongolized offshoot. Kyiv was a developed cultured capital when Moscow was just another swamp village. Moreover, in the Italian sources of the 15th century it is likewise mentioned, that Russia is bordered by Poland to the west, Lithuania and Livonia to the north, and *Muscovy* to the east, further proving that Russia historically speaking, is an exonym of Ukraine, that was stolen by Muscovy. Germany used to call itself the Holy Roman Empire, that didn’t mean they became the Romans, and all of a sudden had a right to claim whole of Italy and its history, but yet, that’s exactly what Russia (Muscovy) did in regards to Rus'-Ukraine, which is a horrible injustice!

  • @yamameeven967
    @yamameeven967 Před 14 dny

    You did bulgaria a bit dirty ngl, I think Bulgaria would gain independence between 1750 - 1860 and they will be a bit smaller but independent, also what is stopping Byzantium from becoming a great socialist power? perhaps having a union between bulgaria, yugoslavian entities and byzantium, a balkan USSR

  • @themightyeagle21
    @themightyeagle21 Před 14 dny

    I disagree with a large part of this. I feel like it would be more likely that England itself would be Francified, with the name remaining "Kingdom of France". France was a more prestigious entity and title compared to England. As you mentioned, English only became a language spoken by the English monarchs after the war. Paris would remain the capital. I see three possibilities with England proper; it's annexed into the crown lands and the Kingdom of England is abolished, alternatively, England proper (and it's title) would hold a similar position in the Kingdom of France as modern Wales, particularly in the manner of title where the heir to the French throne would be the Prince of England, lastly, a timeline in which France becomes a dual monarchy with England. At the end of the day, France would just get bigger if they had won.

  • @sergiosdrozdovsky23
    @sergiosdrozdovsky23 Před 15 dny

    Тема, конечно, очень спекулятивная, но даже упоминая исторические факты, автор допустил множество ошибок. Во-первых, союз Литвы и Польши - это буквально продукт Монгольских завоеваний. Литовские племена часто были союзниками русских земель и к XIII веку по сути были культурно интегрированы в русскую сферу, а князья там говорили на древнерусском. Так что в случае, если бы монгольского нашествия не было, то Литва была бы таким же культурно-русским княжеством, что и какой-нибудь Полоцк, Галич, Владимир и т.д. Во-вторых, реформы Петра Великого были направлены на то, чтобы как раз прекратить культурно-технологическое отставание от Европы из-за монголо-татарского ига (ну и Смуты, разумеется. Но были бы Смута и Иван Грозный, если бы не монголы? 😅). Если бы не было Ига, то Русь не прерывала бы столь сильно и продолжительно культурных контактов с Центральной и Западной Европой. В-третьих, размышлять, была бы возможна коммунистическая революция это уже безумие какое-то. За следующие 800 лет могло бы произойти ВСЁ ЧТО УГОДНО 😂. Ну и да, типичный стереотип, что революция была предопределена "ужасающим" положением народа в Царской России. Настолько ужасающим, что во время Первой Мировой Войны Россия не имела дефицита продовольствия и инфляции, в отличае от какой-нибудь Франции и уж тем более Германии, где население ело одну брюкву. Ну и водка, конечно. Концентрация стереотипа. Водка вообще в общем употреблении в России появилась насколько я помню аж в веке XIX. До этого русские крестьяне пили слабоалкогольные напитки вроде Сбитня. Ну максимум что-то пивное. Да и по уровню употребления алкоголя в Европе мы занимали среднее место, если вообще не замыкали список с обратной стороны. Про русских-алкашей - это миф буквально последних 30 лет СССР. На самом деле неточностей больше, но самые бросающиеся в глаза я привёл. С любовью, ваш русский бот С:

  • @Bern_il_Cinq
    @Bern_il_Cinq Před 15 dny

    Religious and marriage ties between Frankish and Anglo-Saxon elites were closer than you might think! Events in the 500-600s AD during the conversion of the Germanic peoples could possibly have knock-on effects to Francia and suddenly Charles Martel/Charlemagne/Every Carolingian that followed live in an entirely different world. Butterflies mang

  • @ahemenidov1900
    @ahemenidov1900 Před 15 dny

    Novgorod reached West Siberia in 14th century and founded there Mangazea town. So if warlike Tatar states were absent the exploration of Siberia would pass centuries earlier. I estimate 1450s reaching of Baikal, 1500-1510s reaching of Sea of Okhotsk, 1540-60s discovering of Alaska, 1590-1620s joining of Hawaii, 1650-1700s joining of Tahiti and most of Polinesia, 1685 - Treaty with Spain and France for division of North American west of Missisipi/Great Lakes area, 1715 joining of New Zealand, 1735 - Patagonian war with Spain for control over Drake's strate, 1755 - Australian war with UK for division of Australia and Tasmania, 1760 - joining of Papua and Melanesia, 1765 - start of colonization of Antarctica, 1790 - building of Panama Channel.

  • @PaoloCavestro-ey9bb
    @PaoloCavestro-ey9bb Před 15 dny

    If Islam NEVER existed, world would be Better.

    • @maesizmayonnaise2745
      @maesizmayonnaise2745 Před 7 dny

      Khawarizli who invented algebra, and the Muslim scientists 1400 years ago has practiced mathematics and science, as a well as medication, if your think this is wrong, then search in google

  • @user-ou9qd9no5n
    @user-ou9qd9no5n Před 16 dny

    Russia never invaded by Mongols. Russia be maded by Mongols. Rus' be invaded by Mongols

    • @sanniks
      @sanniks Před 16 dny

      Hohol speaking:

    • @user-ou9qd9no5n
      @user-ou9qd9no5n Před 16 dny

      @@sanniks so, how's feel be second army in Russia?

    • @sanniks
      @sanniks Před 15 dny

      @@user-ou9qd9no5n Никак , потому что с реальностью это никак не коррелирует) лучше скажи мне как это , быть рабом еврея-шута?

  • @Maperator
    @Maperator Před 17 dny

    Amazingly documentation and researched

  • @mnemonicpie
    @mnemonicpie Před 17 dny

    Borrowing some words and a few concepts from the Mongols doesn't transform a country into muh Asian civilization. All Asians always thought of them as different alien race, which is absolute truth

  • @Byz_enjoyer
    @Byz_enjoyer Před 18 dny

    hey man, would you ever make a guide on how you make your videos?

  • @levimiller6168
    @levimiller6168 Před 18 dny

    This is so good you need more views

  • @bredoom
    @bredoom Před 18 dny

    I think the the rus states would eventually unite whether its through a civil war between the rus states or due to external pressure such as the ottoman empire and prussia. Furthermore, countries usually always expand to borders, so i think that the rus country would still expand into Siberia, though probably later than our current timeline. Novgorod had a unique political structure where the people picked who would rule them. this culture could have spread over to other rus regions leading to the formation of a federal republic of rus with early version of democracy where they pick the most powerful prince as the leader of the country. On this note, you should really make a video dedicated to Novgorod

  • @FodaseNaoLigo
    @FodaseNaoLigo Před 18 dny

    0:38 crimea is russian

  • @manduul.bakhdal
    @manduul.bakhdal Před 18 dny

    Bullshit

  • @aleksandrlaw5823
    @aleksandrlaw5823 Před 18 dny

    В видео рассказывается про Россию и Хохляндию и только 1 предложение про Беларусь 🇧🇾

  • @artemaldonkin2149
    @artemaldonkin2149 Před 18 dny

    Деспотизм во власти проявлялся со времён князя Андрея Боголюбова, ближе к его среднему возрасту из за чего многие его соратники отрекались от него и в последствии он был жестоко убит в своих покоях хоть он и яростно сопротивлялся. С тех пор деспотизм малость спал но потомки Андрея помнили этот урок и просто стали хитрее и расчётливее в своих замыслах ещё учитывая тот факт что Владимирские а позже Московские князья всё ещё обязаны были считаться с мнением знати и своих родственников по старшей ветви Ярославлей из которой они происходили поскольку у нас всё ещё действовала лиственничная система при которой изберется не старший сын правителя как приемник на княжение а в целом старший член семьи, будь то Дядя или кто либо ещё из рода кто является самым старшим, но с женитьбой Ивана lll Великого на Софье Палеолог всё начало меняться. Этим браком на племяннице последнего Восточно Римского (Византийского) императора Константина XI Палеолога Иван lll при возвысил свой статус над всеми своими родственниками став защитником главным защитником православия в Европе и взял от Софьи фамильный герб Палеологов, золотой двуглавый орёл. Но для полного возвышения ему не хватало лишь статуса Великого князя всея Руси что бы окончательно избавится от от каких либо притязаний на престол со стороны своих родственников коих было не мало. Лишь после этого на Руси закрепился и начал в полной мере развиваться деспотизм обретший свой пик при Иване lV Грозном когда он провозгласил себя Царём (Цезарем) то-бишь императором на европейский манер, это одно и тоже, Пётр первый просто переименовал себя в официальных документах что бы его называли не на русский манер а на европейский а провозглашение империи стало формальность и без того существующей действительности. Так вот Провозгласив себя Царём, Иван IV окончательно возвысил себя над всеми остальными родственниками из династии Рюриковичей кои сравнялись по важности с обычной знатью и стали для царя не больше чем холопами на высоких постах но всё же родственниками. Он не расправился с ними а просто лишил их притязаний на престол даже если Линия Ивана прервется, то только Патриарх Московский и всея Руси и Земский собор (парламент где собираются представители всех сословий Русского царства) могли выбрать нового Царя что в итоге и было сделано после позже. В итоге из всего этого я хочу донести то что на Руси существовали влиятельные князья которые хотели больше власти но не всегда у них это получалось. Так же деспотизм пришёл к нам вероятно и из византийской культурой с её остатками в виде приехавшей Софьи Палеолог с её свитой которые начали по немногу менять облик традиций Московского управления и церемоний. От монголов я считаю что мы взяли с некоторые тактики и стиль ведения боя а от себя стимул объединить под себя все лист ближайшие соседние княжества под угрозой вторжения, повторения междоусобных войн что постоянно происходили на Руси и постоянно её ослабляли перед степными ордами и желания стать сильнее раде собственной независимости от золото-ардынского вассалитета и от кого бы то ни было ещё. Бля англо-говорящих. Приношу извинения сто не пишу для вас на английском для удобства прочтения, по этому попрошу вас перевести этот текст. Мне было удобнее изложить свои мысли на моём языке. Ели есть какие то непонимания то можем поговорить об этом и я с радостью обсужу эту тему.

  • @huskyhusky6131
    @huskyhusky6131 Před 18 dny

    7:18 russia freed itself from the tatar yoke in 1480, when the remains of the Golden Horde ceased to be a unified political entity, and its rulers were no longer obligated to pay tribute.

  • @purpleelemental3955
    @purpleelemental3955 Před 18 dny

    POV: you're a soy american liberal

  • @genovayork2468
    @genovayork2468 Před 19 dny

    Many and grave mistakes. 1. Yuan ended in 1635. 2. If you consider Byzantium as Rome you should consider all successors as the predecessor. 3. Veche was an assembly. Not a class. Lmao. 4. Uzbekia ended in 1471. Lmao. 5. Poland was united before Casimir III. 6. Poland isn't in Eastern Europe. Lmao.

  • @BWhit-ni5uc
    @BWhit-ni5uc Před 19 dny

    So much bs here lol

  • @JB-bb1bh
    @JB-bb1bh Před 19 dny

    Could see Rus unifying in 19th century when it was cool to unify. Rus stopping roughly at OB river base to Aral sea makes sense. (Yay, nor 'tard soviets to destroy a sea!) Could see russ just making a big Kazak vassal state to run central Siberia and Stans.

  • @mehmetfatihcetin5932
    @mehmetfatihcetin5932 Před 19 dny

    You didnt mention but ottomans would still take crimea as byzantines and seljuqs take before. After connecting with tatar people there is a high chace smilar vassalization would occur. Without strong russia ottomans would remain stronger longer. Maybe ottomans weaken southern slavs a lot and northern slavs take charge.

    • @genovayork2468
      @genovayork2468 Před 19 dny

      Seljuks and Byzantium never took Crimea, boso. Byzantium only had the south coast. Ottomania never forms, boso, the Kayı tribe went to Anatolia because of the Mongol conquests.

    • @mehmetfatihcetin5932
      @mehmetfatihcetin5932 Před 19 dny

      @@genovayork2468 south cost is not crimea itself? As far as i remember in the video he didnt remove all mongol empire idea just golden horde. Even if mongol empire didnt form. Turkmen people were looking for new home and seljuqs were already established themselves. Long story short some turkic beylik would take over anatolia and start expand inyo europe.

    • @genovayork2468
      @genovayork2468 Před 19 dny

      @@mehmetfatihcetin5932 South Crimea is not Crimea, boso, go back to kindergarten. The Kayı was not looking for a new place.

    • @mehmetfatihcetin5932
      @mehmetfatihcetin5932 Před 19 dny

      @@genovayork2468 kayı tribe is nothing. 200 years prior to ottomans. Without mongols weaken and devastate anatolia we would take constantinople around 1300s en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tzachas

    • @genovayork2468
      @genovayork2468 Před 19 dny

      @@mehmetfatihcetin5932 The Ottomans were in Kayı, lol. No Kayı migration means no Ottomania. Çaka was 300 years before the XIVth century lmao.

  • @horatiuscocles8052
    @horatiuscocles8052 Před 19 dny

    Also the Rus' center of power was already shifting North along the Volga before the Mongols arrived. Vladimir was the seat of the Grand Prince already since 1157

    • @genovayork2468
      @genovayork2468 Před 19 dny

      Volga's latitudinal course wasn't in Rus, boso, learn basic history and geography before embarrassing yourself.

    • @tingleblade4274
      @tingleblade4274 Před 3 dny

      @@genovayork2468 uki, spok. nobody care about your opinion. Vladimir land was one of the Rus lands

    • @genovayork2468
      @genovayork2468 Před 3 dny

      @@tingleblade4274 😂🤣It's a fact, learn primary school geography before embarrassing yourself. 🤣

  • @JanosBanics
    @JanosBanics Před 19 dny

    My cuman ancestors where peak and dont yall forget it. They are probably the reason most of the world isnt homeless sucking mutton in the 13th century.

  • @vladokalaba2640
    @vladokalaba2640 Před 19 dny

    Albania would be alive, it would be part of Naples or Italy, and some parts in Epirus and Serbia. Albanians would have orthodox religion.

  • @yanjnakarav2445
    @yanjnakarav2445 Před 19 dny

    Russian people wouldn't exsist