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@@lordramenYT rules set by the World Sailing Speed Record Council, 6 kitesurfers have already held this record

@@katamaranscom I don’t count it 😤

I think they'll have enough on their plate with 55m² up in 30 knots of wind

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That's a good point, thanks

I'm still trying to figure out how you are tying this back to the US presidential election. Failing, to be honest 😅

@@katamaranscom I'm rather confused myself. It looks like this was posted here by accident.

@@rong1924 they have a good fundraising team with sponsors including Richard Mille and BMW. They have also set up an association with the Ecole Polytechnique Fédérale de Lausanne (EPFL), a Swiss University, to help them develop the technology and help train engineers. As to 'p***ing' money away, that's an easy throw away line from the sofa but it will depend on whether they can develop the planned spin off tech in hydrofoil, kite design and hydrogeneration

I have seen some good flexible table designs recently that cover your feedback there (a good point raised) such as the Nautitech 48 and Catana. This more 'modular' design makes a lot of sense. On your point about the finish, I think many manufacturers are targeting weight reduction. Balance has some very nice options on finishes but that is a different price bracket. But some interesting thoughts, so thanks for that

@@richardwallinger1683 they will get lift from the kite and are using a foil to keep them down. We cover this in more detail on our longer CZcams video (see our channel if you would like more info).

I am guessing they are lockers or hatches, but it is difficult to see from the render

Good point, that wouldn't bother me personally, nipping down a few steps, but that is a key difference between the 51 and 52 designs

Yes, there is a Transatlantic race but this has been designed to beat the 500m speed record in flat water

The helm swings down giving you 2 options. Protected position and open air position. There is also a retractable Bimini for cover/ shade up top

Please email info@katamarans.com for more details. Thank you

@@kamingcloud2880 that's the idea, they have some way to go to build up the experience and miles for this new technology. Having said that, electric sailing catamarans such as Windelo have been successfully crossing oceans safely for a couple of years now

​@katamaranscom Love this Awesome boat ! I imagine, if they build the inflatable retractable wings that can also capture solar sunlight , that would give this futuristic boat a bigger battery to travel much more longer distance. 😍💖🌬⛵️💖🔋🌞💯👍 😉💖🔋⚡️🌬🌞💯🌏✌️

You need an Odisea 48 then.

@@bisa34 won't match those boats going upwind in lighter airs, but approaching the performance of these boats off the wind in stronger conditions, they have done a good job on this model, sits somewhere between them and the heavier cruising cats

really like your tours. really don't like the compulsory subtitles and Ai voice over

​@@_PatSailsok, thanks for the feedback

I missed the Dazcats on this short as well, I need to do an update 😉

@@joewoodchuck3824 the 55m² looks huge when they launch it

@@_PatSails I am pretty sure the aft bunks are 160, pretty roomy. I will double check. There is less width in the forward cabins. If you like a big bed, the Excess 11 is also worth a look as this has a 200cm berth. Good luck with your search, sounds exciting! Let me know if you need any more help.

@katamaranscom ah 1.5 and 1.6 in the 44. plus few little changes I see from your video. see if I can save a bit more before pulling the trigger. maybe someone does a year cruising to run one in that I can grab 😎 love your work thank you

@@_PatSails always good to to get someone else to fix all the new boat niggles

All of those windsurfers and kitesurfers' have to be slightly insane at those speeds

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I reckon that's an easy switch!

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sail to charge (with solar), then motor if the wind dies

You make some interesting points there. Do you mean a forward helm with access forward? You would lose quite a bit of saloon space there but it would be interesting to see a tri with that helm set up. I have to say I was impressed with the overall living space on this new model. If you went for owner´s cabin down, the space would be huge, it´s big already. For me personally, I prioritise the living space over cabin space (most of the time you are asleep or reading anyway). That forward central cabin is the smallest, but the others seemed fine to me, I can see this would work really well for younger families especially with access to the floats from the main saloon. You make an interesting point about the boom crane. The boom is higher, but it's not crazy flybridge height, I could live with that especially as the lines all come into the helm and everything is easy to get to in a seaway.

@@katamaranscom - Yes, definitely a forward helm with some access forward. Something more akin to Chris White's design, though, not like the Windelo cat that has an unnecessarily large portion of the interior carved out for dual helm stations. I would happily sacrifice that forward center-hull berth on the Neel 52 to make room for that kind of design. Minimal impact on the interior salon space, about as much as there is now with that interior helm station, but with the ability to get out of the nasty weather when under way. It's a safer helm position overall, and access to all the lines and winches is literally 2-3 steps away. I'm definitely with you on prioritizing the living space over other things, which is why I disliked what they did with the galley on the 52 vs the 51. Seems like they sacrificed a fair bit of that master cabin room. Having said that, I haven't been on one, so maybe it's different in person. Personally, I think the slightly narrower cabin space in the floats is a pretty good trade-off for trimaran performance and stability. They looked plenty comfortable enough. What do you recon...they're maybe 2 feet narrower than on a similar-length cat? Relocating the engine and losing the fantastic access that was there on the 51 might be the thing I find most offensive, but I had that discussion with another yacht reviewer (Toby) who made the point that they did this for better balance. Putting the weight further aft led to less porpoising, as the bows were lifted out of the water, making for a smoother ride overall. I can definitely appreciate that sound reasoning, but it's still a shame to lose such amazing access once you've had it. As a production yacht company, I'm sure it's nigh-on impossible to meet everyone's wants and desires, so they provide what they think most people will want and hope they buy it. My perfect Neel would take some re-engineering, to be sure, but she'd be a beast when she launched!! Good talking with you!

@@meadmaker4525 One thing I would say about the Windelo forward cockpit, that it's such a great place to stand a night watch tucked in on those benches with the view forward and it ends up as quite a social space on the hook, hanging out, chatting to people lazing on the nets. The other thing I hadn't factored in with a forward cockpit (I guess I hadn´t been thinking about it) is anchoring. So easy to spot your chain, it´s easy as a one person job if you need it to be. Thanks for the interesting comments!

Hang on, I thought Carbon Fibre was a petroleum product, not a fuel? But I get your point.

@@katamaranscom You funny. lol

​@@p1315 I guess innovation is not for everyone

@@santosl.harper4471 I guess you can't differentiate between innovation and nonsense.

​@@p1315 differentiating innovation from you was made easier by the obsessive number of comments you've made on this short..... I hope you find peace in your endeavours.

I'll double check, but I don't think that's in the WSSRC rules 😅

Yes, agree

Whaa? 100 mph sailboat is mind-blowing, of course mabey you have a small mind.

@@ExploringCabinsandMines What's so mind blowing about it? It has no use in the real world.

Ah yes, the "if I don't value something then it's worthless" also related to "if I don't find something funny it's not funny" or otherwise known as "some people believe the sun rises and sets in the same place."

@@WanderAbroad-pq5ph It's worthless because it's worthless. It's just clout chasing nonsense.

@@p1315 And I think Lamborghini's are worthless because I have no interest in cars. But to be more to the point I'm sure if you posted your interests that you've dumped money into I'm sure plenty would line up to tell you how worthless your pursuits are as well. Worth is subjective.

Search "sp80 does our boat fly" for more on this. They do have foils but they provide downward pressure like an F1 car. Then the idea is to progressively increase the kite size and power up to compensate

@@katamaranscom I see you've got some good, level headed replies in these comments. Thanks for sticking to the facts. This project is a feat of engineering, and all nay-sayers will eventually be silenced when this leads to further breakthroughs for modern day transport, world record or not.

@@Mattle_lutra it will be interesting to see if this leads to some spin off tech, I'd be surprised if it doesn't, 25kts and flat seas to them

@@Mattle_lutra Yes, they'll invent the strongest and lightest carbon fiber composite to ever adorn the door panel of the Pagani Utopia. lol

I thought it was pretty good. Looks like the owner just went for a utility area in the stbd forepeak and kept it functional. I should think there's an option to add decor if you want

Neel has had build quality issues since their inception. It's too bad, because the creativity in their builds is top notch

Impressed with the living space on this boat, that galley is something else!

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Typically you can run a more powerful sail plan with a trimaran as 3 Hulls give you more stability (this boat has a bigger mainsail than an Outremer 52 for example). The risk of capsize is lower with a trimaran. They also perform well upwind. Against that, as you say, there is less width in the floats so it depends on your preference. I was pretty impressed with the space on this boat, and I am not a natural Tri customer. I haven't seen a comparable galley on a 50 footer. If you want a big owners cabin, you configure it up top. It's big alright! If it was me, I would probably max out the living space up top and go for the cabins down below. There are pros and Cons, like any boat, this one moved the dial for me on tris

If you compare the total sqm of a Neel 52 versus any cat you’ll find quickly the Neel is much more roomy. I’ve seriously looked at every cat in this size and compared their deck layouts with my architectural programmes. Cats are compromised. If there is only two people onboard then go the cat, the do look great but if you need to pack n stack kids like I do then the tri is better. Everything has a compromise.

@@bradynixon8900 I'm sorry but you are talking complete rubbish. MAYBE (and I'm not sure it's true) trimarans have some miniscule sqm advantage on the deck level, but calling cats "compromized" and saying they are only good "if there is only two people", is utter nonsense. Lagoon 51 is 15.35x8.10 meters. This Neel 52 is 15.90x8.80. With MUCH narrower floats than the catamaran's hulls I seriously doubt it's any bigger. Lagoon 51 has EIGHT cabins for 12 people to sleep in queen size beds PLUS two crew, this thing has five cabins which I can only describe as cramped. So either post your exact findings, which models you compared, or throw away your "architecural programmes" and stop talking nonsense.

I also doubt very much that a Lagoon 51 sails as well as a Neel52

@@The_guy_on_the_internet And why is that? Same height mast. Sail area 160 vs 190 adv Neel BUT three floats might make more wetted area. Any substantiation for your "doubt"? General question to the whole "audience". Do you guys do ANY research on the subject or are you just fanboys?