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Happy Birthday Fredrick!

someone gonna die if the pirates ever go near cabot cove

I know just enough Latin (from Altar Boy days in the 1960s) to guess that Fr. Duffy is praying for a general absolution to all the 18 year old boys and and older men buried 40’ down in the dugout, “in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost, Amen”.

@@ChrisNovak-ProfessionalNerd Yes. Translation "I absolve you of your sins in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost. Amen" My Father was in the 69th Regiment from 1936 to 1959.

Mark, thanks for your input. Hollywood embellished the list somewhat, but as far as I can tell, the remainder are accurate. Perhaps you can clarify - 1) Were all the bodies exhumed from the dugout? I think so, but a couple were never found, most were re-buried in one of the nearby American cemeteries, and some were sent home to be buried. 2) I have found one or two possible errors in the death dates. For example, the dugout was hit on Mar 7, 1918, but at least one soldier’s death date is listed as May 7, 1918. 3) I did find one survivor, who was standing in the stairwell (just as James Cagney’s character was), from where he could see into the dugout, but also was able to be reached by rescuers… and tell his story. He recalls that one of his friends, Pvt. William Drain was underneath one of the bottom bunks, apparently unhurt by the cave-in. He yelled once or twice “I’m ok, get the other fellows first”. But Drain (and others) apparently suffocated when the underground oxygen ran out.

@@ChrisNovak-ProfessionalNerd there's a street in Brooklyn NYC named for him - Hegney Place. I believe his remains were interred in a military cemetery in France. I'll have to look at letters to my g-grandmother from Fr. Duffy re: the rest of the others. Duffy's book in still in print.

I saw the original Papp/Public Theater production (directed by Wilford Leach) at the Delacorte Theater in NYC's Central Park, a great evening under the stars. Almost all of that cast moved with the show when it transfered to Broadway, with the exception of the great Patricia Routledge, whose Ruth was the standout performance in the show (she was replaced by Kaye Ballard). The leads in this movie adaptation are the same: Kevin Kline, Rex Smith, Linda Ronstadt, George Rose and Tony Azito, the only new principal being the Ruth (again), Angela Lansbury. It appears from the clips I've seen, however, that a fair number of internal cuts were made in the songs for the film. Note: it's amusing to see how much of an afterlife the "patter-trio" from Act II of G&S's Ruddigore has had, having been interpolated first in this adaptation of Pirates and then in the Braodway version of the musical Thoroughly Modern Millie.

@masakasama- a most INGENIOUS paradox!

Did the coupon issuer ever discover the mistake?

TnseWlms, what do Mozart & Rossini have to do with this? The music was written by Sir Arthur Sullivan, and the lyrics by his collaborator Gilbert. Gilbert & Sullivan also collaborated on quite a few “operettas” together, including “HMS Pinafore” and “The Mikado”.

@@ChrisNovak-ProfessionalNerd Rossini was born on February 29th just like Frederic the pirate. So Rossini's seventh birthday did not come until he was 32.

TnseWlms, ah, I should have known it was a Leap Day thing!

@@TnseWlms because his second birthday happened in 1904 rather than 1900 thanks to pope gregory?

@@ChrisNovak-ProfessionalNerd looks like you'll have to retire your professional status and go back to being an amateur nerd

Yes Senja, it is!

Hello again... ironically paradoxical that I searched this song again to post yesterday on FB and of course, yours came up!! I was just telling the folks on staff at the church where I work now how much I miss you, and how wonderful it was that you could transfer all my stuff from one computer to another! Hope you are well ;-) @@ChrisNovak-ProfessionalNerd

What you seek may be in one of these two clips. But it's the 4th Alabama, not the 1st Alabama, and I didn't see any boxcars in that clip, but they are in another. You can rent the film on CZcams, Amazon, and iTunes (or buy a DVD from Amazon)... $10.50 - $15.00 The Fighting 69th (1940) amzn.to/2BYlYwh ...and if you can give me better start and end times, I'll post a better clip. Fighting 69th, 4th Alabama arrives (video) czcams.com/video/u4CtHfYpkdU/video.html Fighting 69th, Boxcar Clip (video) czcams.com/video/IlNBWQwYkw4/video.html 42nd Infantry Division (United States) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/42nd_Infantry_Division_(United_States) 42nd Rainbow Division Veterans Foundation www.rainbowvets.org/wwi

Thank you for your fast and detailed reply. The clip that I am looking for is in the first of the movie. The young soldiers are in boxcars; because that is the way that they were moved; and getting themselves all pumped up telling how their Division has never been beaten. An older man is smoking and listening to them and interrupts them to say that the Division has been beaten once before and that the soldiers that beat their Division are coming up the tracks. As you so correctly pointed out it is the 4th of Alabama. The part that I am looking for is the amazement that the "Rebs" came to the war. Outside of the genuinely insane cost of life resources of the The Great War of Succession; fear that the Southerners would abstain from the fight and attempt to succeed again while the Army was committed overseas. Exactly what the Irish did in 1918. I am putting together a collage of movie clips showing how war weary the United States and Britain were at the outset of WWII.

And I really should have proof read that before I hit Reply. It was these fears that caused the United States to delay in entering the War. The movie Pear Harbor has a great scene, Legends of the Fall has a few where the family is discussing the War and arguing for and against entering it.

That is why. I came here one clip about the Irish 69th during the civil war on how well they fought. The Alabama soldiers beat them badly. Then the fight broke out,

Ah, good point!

Did Gilbert and Sullivan ever mention the year 1940 in the script?

TnseWlms Yes, actually Gilbert mentions it. You can search the libretto for “1940”: archive.org/stream/piratesofpenzanc1911sull/piratesofpenzanc1911sull_djvu.txt

@@ChrisNovak-ProfessionalNerd Assuming Frederick had calculated correctly, taking into account the non-leap year in 1900, his statement that his 21st birthday would fall in 1940 indicates he was born in 1852 (not 1856), the action taking place in 1873. Either way, we have another paradox, because the Major-General's song ("I am the very model of a Modern Major General") mentions "that infernal nonsense Pinafore" - G&S's previous operetta, the first performance of which was in 1878.

Norbiton Flyer, lots of paradoxes and potential errors. But I think it was Schwenck (Gilbert - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W._S._Gilbert) who made one error (Leap year in 1900), and took writer’s license with the second (the reference to Pinafore). There’s a lively discussion about this on SavoyNet: www.gsarchive.net/pirates/discussion/2.html

@Robert Aiello do you know comic strips? In the old Steve Canyon strip, Milton Caniff drew Canyon as that photo of Bill Donovan. A neat tribute, I thought.