Note, This is apparently a problem on a number of Nissans from idk.. 2006 (maybe earlier even). I have a 2011 Versa S sedan, Its ever so slightly different than the Rogue or other models, but similar enough you could almost take parts form one and put on the other like a lot of Hondas/Subarus. The Subframe support brace also does this knocking noise when these bushings get worn out. People have replaced Everything in the front end, when it wasnt technically needed yet, chasing a knock, only to find out it was the subframe or subframe brace bushings.
Today's December 28th 2023 I was doing those bushing yesterday. Lowering the sub frame is no big deal. If you have the car in the air. I mean on the lift. But to replace the Bushings it's a whole different story.
I did the two front ones and the cars turning went so much easer and better! Its like the first bit of turning has only been moving the subframe before real turning happening :). Two days later I did the other two and if became to stiff for my taste with to much road feel (Vibrations)! I dont know if it's because of the polyester bushings or a messed upp the front origanal bushings by lowering the subframe a bit with the front ones still attached. Im about to remove the two rear ones but if I messed up im blowing up my car!
@@Toshifer Polyurethane, Not polyester. You are likely feeling vibrations that were already there, Just feel them more now, due to it being transferred through the bushing better, You might look elsewear for the source of the issue. Trans mount bushings, engine mounts, they are known to go bad on nissans too. It is also possible if you pried on the bushings while half the subframe was still installed, that you tore them. They are notoriously cheap/weak. People hit an opossum or racoon and come in needing them replaced.
Awesome, i was trying to see if anyone knew a way to fix it with out having to lower the subframe. I was thinking of stuffing it with stuff or a bushing and you sir, gave me that information. Mine rattles a lot and that will solve it. Thank you!
If you are looking for a "End of life" fix for a car that is rusted to the point trying to replace these bushings would "total" the car in broken bolts and labor cost, You can fill these gaps with a thing called "3M window weld". Comes in a tube like caulk or silicon sealant, Hardens like these bushings hes installing. The windows in your car, are being held in by this stuff. Now if you ever intend to fix it properly.. DO NOT DO THIS. This is for the special case, Salt Belt northern cars that are too far gone to dump the time and money into, but still drive fine for the most part.
@crisnmaryfam7344 Hi I have a question. When using 3M window weld. Do I need to jump the car frame up or not? And when I'm applying the 3M. I just fill in all around the empty gap area right?
Thanks for the insight on the PSB. I'm going to install them to keep the subframe from sitting on the washers...my bushings are shot. It should also put the subframe at about the right height and stop the noise from it chucking around.. I know it's not the correct fix.
Well it’s been a couple months now, so how did they work out for you? I have to do the same thing to my Sentra and I don’t want to drop the subframe to replace the bushings.
Thank you very much. I've recently replaced the subframe on 2009 Nissan Sentra (~65K, but I hit smth on the road), since dealer can't replace just bushing (no OEM on that part). $2000, but I asked to have the old subframe back to install on it bushing and have it ready, since it is such a frequent problem. I always try to double check the torques and everything, bcs the work of dealers is not really professional from my point of view. It was helpful for me to see, that you can remove those bolts one by one. I do many things on the cars, but that subframe looked too heavy to me to handle. I also think maybe to add those protective part, as shown in this great film. Thank you again.
Thank you Marty for that brilliant tip to extend the life of the frame bushings. I just replaced all 4 of my frame bushings and ordered the 2 sets(front & back) you recommended from PBS. I will follow your suggestion with the newly cut bushing inserts to help my new bushings last longer. 👍...You're awesome, when I grow I want to be like you...
The height of the new insert bushing is too tall. Cutting it lets it push up against the existing rubber bushing and still allow the bolt/washer to push properly up against the bushing inner sleeve. The new insert bushing is meant to replace the entire bushing AND solve the problem of the factory bushing being too short. Thats why its double the height of the original bushing. So he cuts it, because hes not replacing bad bushings, rather hes filling the gap that exists from the factory bushings being too short. Stay gold.
@@dnlmachine4287 Pls could you tell, if I plan to install the new bushings, can I use the shown OSB bushings without cutting. It is for 2009 Nissan Sentra. Dealer replaced the frame w/busted bushings, but I took the old frame and plan to install there new bushings. I bought the set already, they are same as original. I think I still would need to cut those additional PSB bushings fm/this film, but not sure. Thank you for you interesting and useful comment.
@@olenaerhardt7725 If you have the subframe off you can get special poly bushings MADE for those spots, This is a special fix made for a slightly different case. If you have the subframe off installing, proper, better bushings would be the ideal scenario.
Thank you Marty! I had the entire subframe assembly replaced less than a year ago and the bushings are already heavily worn (my car sounds like its going to fall apart when I am driving it). I tried to search online for polyurethane bushings to replace the stock ones and could not find anything. Now I have the PSB Bushing's bookmarked!
excellent work
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whats the size frame bushing bolt my fell off and need to get it replaced HELP!!
Did you find a bolt size?
Dealer will sell you one can’t be too much money plus it’s a critical part you want the correct metal strength. Bolts are rated for strength.
Why did you saw off that piece? It seems that it would've been stronger/firmer with that extra length.
Great upgrade. Send that information to Nissan
Thanks for the helpful video
Excellent video for you Mr. Marty! Great idea and it save me time and a hard job! Really appreciate you helping me extend my 2009 Nissan rogue life!
Great great great idea it works for me perfectly in a sentra 2012
Can I do this without removing the tires or is that a must? I’d rather just put a jack under the frame when removing the bushings
You can jack up just the subframe and leave the tires on.
@@_RiseAgainstTHANK YOU!
great job very helpful 👍
Note, This is apparently a problem on a number of Nissans from idk.. 2006 (maybe earlier even). I have a 2011 Versa S sedan, Its ever so slightly different than the Rogue or other models, but similar enough you could almost take parts form one and put on the other like a lot of Hondas/Subarus. The Subframe support brace also does this knocking noise when these bushings get worn out. People have replaced Everything in the front end, when it wasnt technically needed yet, chasing a knock, only to find out it was the subframe or subframe brace bushings.
How did you get those bushings out?
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Today's December 28th 2023 I was doing those bushing yesterday. Lowering the sub frame is no big deal. If you have the car in the air. I mean on the lift. But to replace the Bushings it's a whole different story.
Thanks for the video ❤
Im about to get under my car right now!
I did the two front ones and the cars turning went so much easer and better! Its like the first bit of turning has only been moving the subframe before real turning happening :). Two days later I did the other two and if became to stiff for my taste with to much road feel (Vibrations)! I dont know if it's because of the polyester bushings or a messed upp the front origanal bushings by lowering the subframe a bit with the front ones still attached. Im about to remove the two rear ones but if I messed up im blowing up my car!
@@Toshifer Polyurethane, Not polyester. You are likely feeling vibrations that were already there, Just feel them more now, due to it being transferred through the bushing better, You might look elsewear for the source of the issue. Trans mount bushings, engine mounts, they are known to go bad on nissans too. It is also possible if you pried on the bushings while half the subframe was still installed, that you tore them. They are notoriously cheap/weak. People hit an opossum or racoon and come in needing them replaced.
Awesome, i was trying to see if anyone knew a way to fix it with out having to lower the subframe. I was thinking of stuffing it with stuff or a bushing and you sir, gave me that information. Mine rattles a lot and that will solve it. Thank you!
If you are looking for a "End of life" fix for a car that is rusted to the point trying to replace these bushings would "total" the car in broken bolts and labor cost, You can fill these gaps with a thing called "3M window weld". Comes in a tube like caulk or silicon sealant, Hardens like these bushings hes installing. The windows in your car, are being held in by this stuff. Now if you ever intend to fix it properly.. DO NOT DO THIS. This is for the special case, Salt Belt northern cars that are too far gone to dump the time and money into, but still drive fine for the most part.
@crisnmaryfam7344 Hi I have a question. When using 3M window weld. Do I need to jump the car frame up or not? And when I'm applying the 3M. I just fill in all around the empty gap area right?
please help. Could you provide me with the name of that rubber and where did you buy it?...I'm from Mexico
Thanks for the insight on the PSB. I'm going to install them to keep the subframe from sitting on the washers...my bushings are shot. It should also put the subframe at about the right height and stop the noise from it chucking around.. I know it's not the correct fix.
Well it’s been a couple months now, so how did they work out for you? I have to do the same thing to my Sentra and I don’t want to drop the subframe to replace the bushings.
Did you ever wind up doing this fix? How did it work out for you? @@jimseiberlich4360
Thank you very much. I've recently replaced the subframe on 2009 Nissan Sentra (~65K, but I hit smth on the road), since dealer can't replace just bushing (no OEM on that part). $2000, but I asked to have the old subframe back to install on it bushing and have it ready, since it is such a frequent problem. I always try to double check the torques and everything, bcs the work of dealers is not really professional from my point of view. It was helpful for me to see, that you can remove those bolts one by one. I do many things on the cars, but that subframe looked too heavy to me to handle. I also think maybe to add those protective part, as shown in this great film. Thank you again.
Thank you Marty for that brilliant tip to extend the life of the frame bushings. I just replaced all 4 of my frame bushings and ordered the 2 sets(front & back) you recommended from PBS. I will follow your suggestion with the newly cut bushing inserts to help my new bushings last longer. 👍...You're awesome, when I grow I want to be like you...
Martys granddaughter is a lucky lady. Nice work sir. Stay gold.
Sincerely appreciate you Mr. Marty!
And whoever marries her will be one lucky dog.🥰
Why do you need to cut them?
The height of the new insert bushing is too tall. Cutting it lets it push up against the existing rubber bushing and still allow the bolt/washer to push properly up against the bushing inner sleeve. The new insert bushing is meant to replace the entire bushing AND solve the problem of the factory bushing being too short. Thats why its double the height of the original bushing. So he cuts it, because hes not replacing bad bushings, rather hes filling the gap that exists from the factory bushings being too short. Stay gold.
So he’s leaving the original bushings in place and installing the new ones on the bottom and tightening to eliminate the gap? Is that correct?
@@dnlmachine4287 Pls could you tell, if I plan to install the new bushings, can I use the shown OSB bushings without cutting. It is for 2009 Nissan Sentra. Dealer replaced the frame w/busted bushings, but I took the old frame and plan to install there new bushings. I bought the set already, they are same as original. I think I still would need to cut those additional PSB bushings fm/this film, but not sure. Thank you for you interesting and useful comment.
@@olenaerhardt7725 If you have the subframe off you can get special poly bushings MADE for those spots, This is a special fix made for a slightly different case. If you have the subframe off installing, proper, better bushings would be the ideal scenario.
Thank you, Marty! We appreciate you, sir.
Thanks sir
Thank you Marty! I had the entire subframe assembly replaced less than a year ago and the bushings are already heavily worn (my car sounds like its going to fall apart when I am driving it). I tried to search online for polyurethane bushings to replace the stock ones and could not find anything. Now I have the PSB Bushing's bookmarked!
This is a awesome solution!!! 🎉🎉🎉 many people don’t know that gap is what will wear down the bushing over time