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IS THE BIBLE TRUE? ALEX O'CONNOR VS DINESH D'SOUZA
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Welcome to the Pangburn Universe, governed by the laws of good faith & helpfulness. If you enjoyed our 25th live discussion, be sure to check out our library of live intellectual discourse: czcams.com/play/PLBUNmcrj1YpJkVpEgkhhn6AARUXeiRqXg.html&si=2m3hCqtqHPMC7BhE
A special thank you to backdropsfantastic.com for their generous donation of the stunning 40' x 20' "Creation Of Adam" by Michelangelo theater backdrop. This massive depiction of the Sistine Chapel painting commanded attention and set the stage for a conversation of Biblical proportions.
We begin with a preshow discussion between Philosopher & Producer Travis Pangburn & Pangburn Universe Broadcaster Dandan Prager. They discuss the Pangburn Discord Community discord.gg/FRmCUqKTDs & the philosophical domain of Truth.
Atheist Alex O'Connor & Christian Dinesh D'Souza go head-to-head in an all-out intellectual brawl!
The question? IS THE BIBLE TRUE?... Expect fireworks! This event took place on June 1st, 2024 in The Bronx, NYC at the Lovinger Theater at Lehman College.
Timestamps:
00:10:53 Intro by Travis Pangburn
00:13:00 Is The Bible True? Alex O'Connor Begins
00:14:14 Genesis, allegorical truth or tragedy?
00:18:51 The Birth Narrations of the New Testament
00:22:57 D'Souza Stands Up To Defend The Bible
00:26:44 The Bible and Proposals
00:34:22 Life after death in the Bible
00:38:56 The Dialectic Begins
00:45:17 Luke vs Matthew: Who's right?
00:51:48 The contradictions in the New Testament
00:58:38 Skepticism vs Revelation
01:01:40 Historical Accuracy in the Bible?
01:05:36 Are there contradictions in the Bible?
01:09:36 Did the Universe have a beginning?
01:12:41 The origin of the universe
01:15:56 Was There a Hidden Philosophical Tradition in Ancient Greece?
01:23:57 Why Does It Matter If History Gets It Wrong?
01:29:58 Life After Death
01:34:29 The Amalekites
01:42:39 Racism
01:48:08 Martin Luther King on the Problem of Slavery
01:54:04 God's Moral Truth in the Old Testament
01:55:29 Post show
A very special thank you to everyone on the Pangburn team! Especially Jonboy, Dandan & Thomas who played key roles in assisting with this event.
Live video and editing mastery performed by by Derek Perrucci and Jeremy Levy of Clearcut Media. They are the very best! www.clearcut-media.com/
@CosmicSkeptic @dineshdsouza @Pangburn @DandanPragerPU
Welcome to the Pangburn Universe, governed by the laws of good faith & helpfulness. If you enjoyed our 25th live discussion, be sure to check out our library of live intellectual discourse: czcams.com/play/PLBUNmcrj1YpJkVpEgkhhn6AARUXeiRqXg.html&si=2m3hCqtqHPMC7BhE
A special thank you to backdropsfantastic.com for their generous donation of the stunning 40' x 20' "Creation Of Adam" by Michelangelo theater backdrop. This massive depiction of the Sistine Chapel painting commanded attention and set the stage for a conversation of Biblical proportions.
We begin with a preshow discussion between Philosopher & Producer Travis Pangburn & Pangburn Universe Broadcaster Dandan Prager. They discuss the Pangburn Discord Community discord.gg/FRmCUqKTDs & the philosophical domain of Truth.
Atheist Alex O'Connor & Christian Dinesh D'Souza go head-to-head in an all-out intellectual brawl!
The question? IS THE BIBLE TRUE?... Expect fireworks! This event took place on June 1st, 2024 in The Bronx, NYC at the Lovinger Theater at Lehman College.
Timestamps:
00:10:53 Intro by Travis Pangburn
00:13:00 Is The Bible True? Alex O'Connor Begins
00:14:14 Genesis, allegorical truth or tragedy?
00:18:51 The Birth Narrations of the New Testament
00:22:57 D'Souza Stands Up To Defend The Bible
00:26:44 The Bible and Proposals
00:34:22 Life after death in the Bible
00:38:56 The Dialectic Begins
00:45:17 Luke vs Matthew: Who's right?
00:51:48 The contradictions in the New Testament
00:58:38 Skepticism vs Revelation
01:01:40 Historical Accuracy in the Bible?
01:05:36 Are there contradictions in the Bible?
01:09:36 Did the Universe have a beginning?
01:12:41 The origin of the universe
01:15:56 Was There a Hidden Philosophical Tradition in Ancient Greece?
01:23:57 Why Does It Matter If History Gets It Wrong?
01:29:58 Life After Death
01:34:29 The Amalekites
01:42:39 Racism
01:48:08 Martin Luther King on the Problem of Slavery
01:54:04 God's Moral Truth in the Old Testament
01:55:29 Post show
A very special thank you to everyone on the Pangburn team! Especially Jonboy, Dandan & Thomas who played key roles in assisting with this event.
Live video and editing mastery performed by by Derek Perrucci and Jeremy Levy of Clearcut Media. They are the very best! www.clearcut-media.com/
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Topic of the debate: is the Bible true? Dinesh: "Who the heck cares?" Dinesh has conceded.
I can barely pay attention cause the sound of Dinesh smacking his lips and tongue every time he starts to speak is driving me absolutely insane!
1:52:36 I don't understand this point at all, why does a text that is supposed to be the literal word of God change depending on how you read it? If you have to read it the way Christians do, and Christians have changed the way they read it, and the morals that you draw from it change depending on how you read it, at that point God is no longer dictating morality to humans the Christians are. That is silly, either it is the word of God or it is just a human construction. I truly don't understand why people need magic like the bible to be real, life is cool enough without it, and the story of the bible is a compelling one that we can all learn many lessons from, that we can see the progress of human ethics from, it is genuine fascinating, it doesn't have to be amazing to the point of fiction to still give us all value.
Matt is being incredibly patient! 🫠
Dinesh is full of shit! 😂
Dinesh didn't score a single point
I immediately skipped the two muppets at the start ..
" just a yes or no question" then proceeds to ask a question about GODs morality lol this is so disingenuous. I challenge Alex to answer any question about morality or REALITY at all with a yes or no.
"Thankyou... *unsatisfactory applause* I'm sure I bribed more people on the way in" Man Alex is great fun :D
I wanna watch this because of Alex, but Dinesh is just too cringe 😬
I just watched Alex beat up an old man for three hours.
So fn boring A man can work a mindless task 60 hours a week and create something great These two can read for 60hrs and this is the best you have? These two couldn't handle a brainded 60hr shift at a job. Mentality weak We have mycelium brains omg they sooo dummm
I found it ironic that Dinesh accused Alex of filibustering as he was filibustering and continued to do so.
Wrong, the universe having a beginning isn't established, and in fact, many proponient scientist have models doubting that conclusion. The universe expanded 14 billion years ago, that is much as we know so far.
"racism is invention of modern times" dinesh is kinda guy that thinks slavery and racism wasn't a wrong thing until one day we decided it was one
Dinesh is quite overrated. It's time for Christianity to put someone else up to argue for it.
This is the first time I've heard mat and he reminds me alot about Christopher Hitchens. Quick, done his homework and not crumbling under pressure.
This denish guy is actually an arrogant piece of ****
Dinesh’s 2000 mules Movie had to be pulled down for lies and slander. If Dinesh create movies with lies and slander when he’s got spare time on his hands, can you expect him to be honest in a debate? He’s a convicted felon A man is only as good as his word
Feels like I just watched Dinesh have a bad dream. Awkward.
I’ve seen dinesh dominate in debates before. This…. This is not one of those debates
Dinesh, i suggest you prepare for these things #1. Read your sacred text. Go beyond your Sunday school teaching. #2 Know your debate opponent. (he, by the way, has read your sacred text)
2 hours that flllleeww by!, love it.
As a Christian, I believe Alex won the debate with a doubt. His opponent was not prepared he was insecure, very nervous. Alex simply wanted clear answers. Unfortunately, he never got them.
28:21 - 29:33 wtf, who other than this guy thinks this makes sense, Guy: I pushed a car publisher: Guy pushed a car Dinesh: holy shit! this is too hard to understand, since no one was there to witness what he did and yet the book is speaking from the second person.
why, mr O’Conner, are you debating this professional liar? he is a dangerous propagandists who should be deprived of oxygen
"Where's he going to get the seven headed dragon and the prostitute from?" - The number of times I've asked myself this question.
Dinesh should send Alex a royalty check because he can’t make any of his points without mentioning Alex personally.
I’ve heard better arguments from Christian apologists. Dinesh spews nothing but bad faith arguments, employs misdirection, and is a walking talking logical fallacy. I feel dirty and a strong sense to shower after listening to his rhetoric.
Alex should have been a lawyer, he systematically eviscerates Dinesh, as an Atheist I confess this is deeply entertaining. To me, the Bible is an indefensible advocacy for violent and abhorrent conduct with the odd admirable parable, it should be consigned to the dustbin of history.
Oh Alex, I got one word to describe this debate. OUCH. That was so overwhelming dominant. Loved it. Made my day.
Debate starts at 13:00 mins
1:54:20 "So?" Haha, the fact that this has no consequences to his beliefs or his defending of his religion is laughable if it wasn't so incredibly sad.
Great to see Alex growing, not letting other ppl shit on him and get away with the argument.
Dinesh: "Does anyone have rope? Any length will do."
Religion today is just ideas from the past, smashed together, nit-picked to hell and beyond, taking what you thought was good from the previous ones, or ones next to you, if you lived in the time when other religions was spread far and wide. Then you made it all, somewhat, consistent with the details, hoping no one would fck it up later on, which it always happens later on. Of course, the most important detail, preach and say, we have the answer to life, and are the one truth. Study and read into past religions mythos, and one can see, how the religions of today have taken "inspiration" of the religions of the past.
Poor Dinesh went out on a three-day binge, forgot to prepare his assignment, then has to wing it live. D'Souza has never been so pitiful, and that's saying a lot.
God is all powerful and created everything and is everywhere. Couldn't he have spared a few seconds and appeared here to settle the argument?
Dinesh often sounded like he was participating a separate, completely different debate - the one he was inventing in his head on the fly.
Yeah it was a massacre and I am not talking about the amalekites. Dinesh can't run to the theological weeds because Alex knows it better than him. Several times he trapped him in a corner and Dinesh had nothing at all to say but to move on to some other irrelevant point.
This Dinesh guy better hope that there is life after death because he was just slaughtered...
All these men talking about man-made fiction and a wargod invented by men that privileges them who killed off the feminine divine (Asherah-=bible) Women were goddesses next to gods for few 1000 years and then for 10's of 1000 of years women were the lone creator of gods/humanity. YHWH a patriarchal monotheistic god with a homosexual pantheon of males, made himself the new mother/male god and men have been coveting women's bodies every since. Hitchens wins every debate! Men leave out the misogyny in these books/ women are NEVER debated! proves my point!
Alex: 1+1? Dinesh: So, mathematics is an area of knowledge that includes the topics of numbers...
You can tell that dinesh cares less about truth than Alex because he’s always looking at the audience, trying to convince them, rather than sitting and speaking to and with Alex
Why debate this fool Alex ? Not a worthy opponent 😮
This comment section is full to the brim with smooth brains.
lets move on.....absolutely juiced
Dinesh is obnoxious. 😂