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You can land on neutral block or put a jumper from the lug in generator.

@@ipowergenerators4200 sweet thanks what i thought but wanted to make sure t

Yea it is… took me three reads figure it out

Hey bud, thanks for watching and reaching out. The cable can be bought from tcerdirect.com or if you do a google search for Generac cable wire. Let me know if you have trouble finding it.

It is direct burial but not sure the size. Might be #3. It’s rated for the output breaker on the generator not the service to the house

Ha, I was able to get it to run once but after that it wouldn’t start. Needed Bosch actuator and a ton of other maintenance and repairs. The actuator is about $650

It probably could. But why put extra stress on the system

That little baby is stronger then it seems… she’ll tip if your not positioned right or loaded right. After 12 years I’ve found the sweet spot with it

And people wonder why they don't work right or fail prematurely ???? smh

​@ipowergenerators4200 what about a generator other than the switching circuits would give a dam if it's 80 or 120 degrees? The engine burning propane?

No, not for the whole house. Maybe a third of it. We’ve done 100kw for a house that size.

@@ipowergenerators4200 120KW an where do I get one ? ( Nebraska )

@ILIK3HATERZ generac makes 100,130,150kw. If you need a 120kw it would have to be built and your local industrial dealer could handle. Go to generac.com, under dealer located based on your zip code. You’ll find options close to you.

It’s far enough away and the exhaust goes on an angle towards the house so it misses the condenser.

when your wiring up the ATS, typically you want to get power back on inside the building, so you wire up the line voltage coming from the utility to the transfer mechanism or breaker (depending on your switch)...once you do that, there will be power at N1, N2 and T1 to the board in the ATS. Then if you run you connect your control wires, the other end of the wire will be hot ... so in process of connecting everything you can easily ground the hot causing the fuses to blow. If you disconnect the molex plug you remove the "hot" from the board ... effective making it better to run the wires. The fuses in the board at the ATS are not easily sourced locally .... at least not where we are. Hope this makes sense ... i know its a little confusing.

@@ipowergenerators4200 Generac gets an arm and leg for those fuses. We sourced them through Amazon in bags of 50 and gave each tech a few to keep on the truck. They don't seem to randomly blow like the older BBS fuses, and I have only had to do replacements on a new unit start up, which means someone goofed while wiring the system.

@rupe53 I know, they are really pricey. I unplug the molex at the lcm before sending any ats out. This way they can’t screw it up

So after everything is wired up, including the control lines, it is OK to plug back in? I am currently waiting to be energized by PSEG. I have the connectors unplugged at the moment. All my connections between two ATS’s and generator have been made.

@@sevendust07660 if you have double checked everything and all is tight then you can reconnect. It may take a few minutes for all of the lights to cycle on the load shed modules when first powered up. Hopefully you ran an extra set of wires to #23 & #194 between the switches.

Thanks

You do not need a conversion kit for the generator however that transfer switch wiring would have to change a bit.

That’s what the total cost for install ended up being. Electrician, plumber, propane and other site work. Crazy how expensive it has become.

Great to hear!

Did you check the spark plug? How many hours on the unit? You’ll need to adjust the valves every 100 hours of use.

I’m not certain who installed it, I was just there to do the start up. But yes the homeowner got the work done for free or very little cost. You get what you pay for. Respectfully, we had to bill for the follow up visits. Literally everything was wrong on it, multiple junction boxes missing match color wiring, wires not run correctly, etc.

@@ipowergenerators4200 I’ve seen too many terrible installs to count at this point….the unit with a 100 A load shed…connected to the entire ATS. The unit 18 inches from the house…only on the exhaust side, with the hot gas exhausting directly into a brick wall… Or the 200A service, 30kw liquid cooled Cummins generator with a 100A ATS…. If only people would realize they get what they pay for! The unit in this video clearly isn’t new based upon visual inspection. I hope people watch videos like this and learn…

Though to say but …. Could be a few things, dirty carb, bad gas, choke is closed or a combination of those. How old is the gas that’s in the tank?

@ipowergenerators4200 the gas is new, about two weeks. It ran perfectly two weeks ago, while power was out. I added "STA-BIL" 2oz, gas treatment. Then, I tried to start it, and it wouldn't start. I ordered a new carburetor from Amazon. Hopefully, that will fix it.

@@ipowergenerators4200 Thanks for the reply 🙏 👍

@Logansrunn1701 are you sure the gas valve is open? Stabile will not cause the unit not to fire.

@ipowergenerators4200 Thanks, I put in a new carburetor, and now the generator works great

It happens all the time. I would just replace the coil. That’s what generac will pay for. Chances are the electrician bent it as they are very delicate.

@@ipowergenerators4200 Thanks for the quick reply. It definitely came this way I opened the box and was there when he took off the cover. The problem is after alerting Generac I was told that an authorized Service center has to look at it, and I have to wait for an appointment.

@richiecapuccino9853 anyone can make the repair but if you want it covered by warranty then a warranty dealer would have to make the repair. if you replace the part it would be at your expense

Well, it would depend on if you have utility power or not. If you’re asking this question it’s best not touch it.

The board tells it where to be basicly. It has utility sensing wires (n1 and n2) that tell the board "hey we have power and this is what's preferred". It's automatic so you shouldn't touch it. Never operate a transfer switch with live power, only dead power and generator off

No the liquid cooled units do not run as hot as air cooled. However, if the generator is running for a long time (multiple days) plants and other taller vegetation may get affected. Grass generally is effected by it.

@@ipowergenerators4200 Where does the gas and power cable connect? Same location? Can you show that in a video? Where is the green/yellow/red/ indicator light? Next to the control panel? I have a 22kw and moving up to a 32 kw.

@AlongtheRiverLife really depends on the model you’re getting. On the pre-2024 model 32kw units there is no outside LED indicator light. The electrical connections will always be as close as possible to the breaker on the generator. In the video you can see where the gas line is connected on this particular model. It’s best to have the spec sheet for your model … it’ll tell you where the connections are.

@@ipowergenerators4200 Understand. Ours will be a pre-2024 model. We'll wait to see where connections are when we get it. Do you find it much quieter than a 22kw air cooled?

I think you are miss informed… there is a version that is free. But as with everything in life … no such thing as a free lunch. Generac provides a good product at an affordable price. Every company has to produce a profit… otherwise what’s the point?

@@ipowergenerators4200 Agreed. All you say is true to a degree. Albeit, YOU are the one misinformed. My multiple neighbors who either, like me own Generacs, juxtaposed with those ownining Cummins, can ALL bear witness. Both cost the same price. Both provide software a certain functionalities cost free. But Cummins out performs in every category, especially in cost free useful information provided within their app. If you wish to hear true information, come to my house, my neighborhood.

@@ipowergenerators4200 Let's see... You work for generac, right?

@ipowergenerators4200 I responded with details how multiple people in my neighborhood have whole home generators, predominantly Cummins and Generac, and how Cummins, both in functionality and practical usefulness of their app, outperforms my Generac for the same out-of-pocket cost. That response was taken down almost immediately.

@ipowergenerators4200 I am NOT misinformed. I speak from practical application. You ask me not to believe my eyes as you imply to readers that I don't know what I plainly do know. I do not despise my Generac and am happy to have it when power is out--a common occurrence in Galveston County. I merely testify that, were I to have the opportunity again, I would DEFINITELY choose Cummins. And, Generac's support, hand-in-hand with the usefulness (more accurately, uselessness), of their app, are less than stellar. ...not to mention the arrogant and insulting manner they find as acceptable treatment of their customers--including me.

Yea basically… you only have to break one wire…. Preferably the signal wire.

@@ipowergenerators4200 kool thanks i'll try it tomorrow

Really appreciate the compliment. We’ve seen this problem from time to time. The issue is with the springs in the transfer mechanism or the transfer coil magnetic loosing its ‘magnetic magic’. The transfer coil is an electro magnetic, when it gets 120vac from the transfer relay (obviously that wasn’t the problem) it energizes and pulls in a cylinder which switches power. Check the limit switches, transfer coil, springs in the transfer mechanism and cylinder for any binding or resistance. The last one is not likely but worth checking. If you in the Jacksonville area reach out to Premier Power Systems.

Thanks for the reply! I wish your company was in Boca Raton. You have shown me more consideration than the "R" company I have been paying thousands to for repair of this same problem every few years. THANKS again! @@ipowergenerators4200

Unfortunately… the stepper is not a serviceable part, you can’t purchase it separately and yes they are pressed together. If the stepper goes bad you have to replace the assembly… can you move the stepper by hand? You have to check continuity of the stepper wires

Unfortunately, I probably won’t be back there to take video of the rest of the work. Our service techs typically take care of the units after the start up.

The good old pinkie finger in the intake throat test … it’s more common than it should be…unfortunately. When you removed the mixer did you use silicon to lube the o-rings.

The transfer switch can function off a 2 wire start signal but you have to program the generator to send the signal once it’s told to by the inverter… we’ve done this with Xantrex inverters use their gen start module. The important thing is in the board at the generator and wiring it in the correct pins at the board.

@@ipowergenerators4200 it looks like I need the generac 2 wire start kit as well. Is that right? Where can I find documentation about this. Is it in a manual? Do you have to be generac certified? Can I hire you for consulting?

@@ipowergenerators4200 is this all that is required? Link to 2wire start kit store-vvtmdk4.mybigcommerce.com/content/Generac%20two%20wire%20start%20kit%207109%202%20wire%20start%20Instruction%20Sheet.pdf

I’ll take a look at the kit tomorrow, but from what I remember it’s nothing more than 16g wires with molex pins on the end. We’ve seen guys cut wires and wire nut the splices…. Not the prettiest but it works. You don’t have to an authorized service dealer to do this … just helps in sourcing the parts needed. If you send me an email I can send you docs that I have. My email is in the about me section on the channel. Just reference CZcams.

Yes this is it… generac calls it remote start but it’s 2 wire start … make sure you change it in the board

Brother it was not worth it. Took a while and the smell was horrible. Not to mention the few mice that jumped out while I was working on it.

You got the best possible CZcams names!!!!

Ummm no try again…