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Some vids (not all by me, some reposts) from the world of Battleship Iowa, BB-61.
Visual PROOF John McCain did not start the Forrestal fire
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FORRESTAL FIRE CHALLENGE
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Think McCain started the Forrestal fire? Here's your chance to PROVE it. Take the challenge.
Rev 4.1Did John McCain (VA-46) Start The Forrestal Fire?
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Battleship Iowa Full STEAM Ahead Tour promo vid
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Full Steam Ahead tour promo produced by Pacific Battleship Center
12 3 16 BB61 USS Iowa 5 inch gun shoot
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Vid courtesy of Ron Russik, Battleship IOWA Ops department. This is quite possibly the loudest shoot we have done. Each barrel, 2 pounds of compressed black powder. This was just stupid loud. Listen closely between the last bell and the first shot, there is a metallic click. That is the sound of the breach block coming up.
12 3 16 gun shoot battleship iowa
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The latest 5-inch shoot from Battleship Iowa BB61
5 inch surprise, Battleship Iowa BB61
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Inside the 5-inch mount on an early shoot. This is when we discovered that we had a minor problem with rounds going off early. Turned out to be soft primers...
Turret Crawl Battleship Iowa BB61
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This video is shot and produced by Kert VanderMeulen for Pacific Battleship Center, San Pedro, CA BB61 Battleship Iowa, NOT by me.
Battleship Iowa Fires the Fives 8/30/16
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Here's the 8/30/16 shoot for Fleet Week. Enjoy...
painting bow welds
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Highlighting the location of 20mm and 40mm guns on the bow of BB61.
Battleship Iowa 5 inch gun shoot 7/3/15
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Battleship Iowa 5 inch gun shoot 7/3/15
How many sailors are assigned to each gun or turret ?
It's amazing and extremely great that the 5-inch/38cal still can fire. As of now, those secondary batteries are over 80 years old. It makes you wonder if the main battery is still capable of firing.
Snipe 1965 1969
Great! Many thanks!👍👍
I like your detail why won’t you go into detail about how the computers worked and how they aim these guns? I can’t seem to find any good videos that explains in detail how that worked
Hey, 'James'..... 'Moe' here......IF you are still watching-monitoring this channel....I got peeps that want to see this video, May I use it for explanation of why we DON'T Fire the 16" guns??!!
Should be OK, I didn't shoot the vid, and it's just a crewman's personal vid, I didn't take it from an Iowa site or anything. Are you the 'Moe' I know from the ship? Logistically, it would be a major undertaking to fire 'naturally', very expensive and then there would be the cleaning involved. Even though it was a pyro shot from a 'mortar', it wouldn't be cheap. It also is VERY loud. Car alarms went off al over, and my guess is that it scared the hell out of people at Ports O' Call, it was pointed right at them...
@@jamespobog3420 Thanks.... AND YES.... It is .... 'Da MOE'!!! Mario to be sure!! Good to hear from ya!!! Hoping you are doing well, Buddy!!! I SURE Miss ya (and a few others)....hoping you are staying "cool"!!!
@@Hey_MikeZeroEcho22P Cool. MAybe you know, maybe you don't, I lost my job to Covid, but as to be expected, I'm still 'family', walk on and go where I want. It's very cool. Since covid I've been hobby building lelectric guitars and teaching at a maker space near John Wayne airport. Hope all is well with you.
That black powder will eat the liner right out of the barrel not to mention it is by the salt water. I couldn't think of a faster way to make it unusable forever. Bad decisions there. Sad to see one of the last of it's kind destroyed like this. 5" fine there are hundreds of replacement barrels. Not the 16" though.
Interesting 🧐
Such an incredible piece of hardware, designed by incredible people who had no modern computers, just slide rules and knowhow. Manned by incredible people who just had to know their jobs so well they couldn't possibly forget no matter how stressful things got. My uncle was a gunner. He worked his way up from ordnance striker to Gunner's Mate to Chief Turret Captain, then Gunner as a Warrant Officer then Ensign and all they way up to Commander, all in naval gunnery. He was never on an Iowa class but he spent most of WWII on other classes of battleships. In total he served on active duty from 1930-1959. I miss him.
E-1 to O-6 including Warrants is quite an accomplishment. He gets a Bravo Zulu from me.
No "Cad-Cam" back then! Only slide rules and large drafting tables. Just incredible!
Now that is a salute!
There were several Iowa volunteers as passengers, and they said it scared the crap out of almost everyone. Well, everyone except them...
Oh..... 'Hotel Alpha', & 'G-man'.....not the Best looking firing position, but Hey...... what can I say if I'm directing these guns ...... By Radar!!! Mike Zero, Roger Out. Pobog, good seeing a video of y'all in the early days!!!
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Being forced to participate in a coverup by an Admiral? The solution is simple. Just utter six magic words. Come to attention look straight ahead and say.... "Admiral, I request a court-martial." Simple, really...
If JMc III was as stupid/dumb as is claimed by possessors of "McCain Derangement Syndrome" (MDS), they need to explain several things. 1. Have they ever read the NATOPS Manual for the A-4 Skyhawk? The NATOPS is PROOF no 'dummy' would survive attempts to fly military carrier aircraft. Bad pilots die very very young. 2. How was JMc able to complete flight school? 3. How was a 'dummy' able to be assigned to fly multi million dollar planes? 4. How was 'Daddy' able to coerce commands that didn't give a rats ass who he was, into making JMc a pilot? 5. How was a 'dummy' able to qualify for carrier duty? 6. How was a 'dummy' able to master daylight carrier landings? 7. How was a 'dummy' able to qualify to make night carrier landings, considered one of the most difficult activities on the planet? 8. How was a 'dummy' able to qualify as a Launch Officer? 9. How was a 'dummy' able to qualify as an LSO (Landing Safety Officer)? 10. How was a 'dummy' able to qualify as a Flight Deck Safety Officer? 11. How was a 'dummy' able to become an instructor? 12. How was a 'dummy' able to master hundreds of hand signals/commands/ codes needed to pilot a naval aircraft from a carrier?| 13. How was a 'dummy' able to conduct many successful ground attack missions with bombs and rockets under enemy AAA fire,? 14. How could a 'dummy' master the crowded instrument/controls of attack or fighter planes? 15. How could a 'dummy' pass multitudes of tests and evaluations by people, schools, and departments outside any of Daddy's command structure who didn't give a rats ass whose son he was? 16. A qualified carrier pilot can become un-qualified and/or lose his wings at any point during his career due to poor performance. How did JMc avoid this? 17. Why would Admirals at the HIGHEST levels of the Navy command structure or Dept. of Defense ( SECDEF, SECNAV, Chief of Naval Operations, Chairman Joint Chiefs of Staff), risk their careers, pensions, and public disgrace for a dummy jackass Admiral's son? They are NOT going to place a clown's interests ahead of their own. Would you? 18. How did a 'dummy' master the spherical geometry and 3-D navigation required for air/celestial navigation? It is clear to see by anyone not blinded by seething hatred that the claims of JMc III was not a qualified carrier pilot, or indeed, a pilot of any kind, are simply IMPOSSIBLE. Period. The End.
If JMc III was as stupid/dumb as is claimed by posessers of "McCain Deraingement Syndrome" (MDS), they need to explain several things. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1. Have they ever read the NATOPS Manual for the A-4 Skyhawk? The NATOPS is PROOF no 'dummy' would survive attempts to fly military carrier aircraft. Bad pilots die very very young. 2. How was JMc able to complete flight school? 3. How was a 'dummy' able to be assigned to fly multi million dollar planes? 4. How was 'Daddy' able to coerce commands that didn't give a rats ass who he was, into making JMc a pilot? 5. How was a 'dummy' able to qualify for carrier duty? 6. How was a 'dummy' able to master daylight carrier landings? 7. How was a 'dummy' able to qualify to make night carrier landings, considered one of the most difficult activities on the planet? 8. How was a 'dummy' able to qualify as a Launch Officer? 9. How was a 'dummy' able to qualify as an LSO (Landing Safety Officer)? 10. How was a 'dummy' able to qualify as a Flight Deck Safety Officer? 11. How was a 'dummy' able to become an instructor? 12. How was a 'dummy' able to master hundreds of hand signals/commands/ codes needed to pilot a naval aircraft from a carrier?| 13. How was a 'dummy' able to conduct many successful ground attack missions with bombs and rockets under enemy AAA fire,? 14. How could a 'dummy' master the crowded instrument/controls of attack or fighter planes? 15. How could a 'dummy' pass multitudes of tests and evaluations by people, schools, and departments outside any of Daddy's command structure who didn't give a rats ass whose son he was? 16. A qualfied carrier pilot can become un-qualified and/or lose his wings at any point during his career due to poor performance. How did JMc avoid this? 17. Why would Admirals at the HIGHEST levels of the Navy command structure or Dept. of Defense ( SECDEF, SECNAV, Chief of Naval Operations, Chairman Joint Chiefs of Staff), risk their careers, pensions, and public disgrace for a dummy jackass Admiral's son? They are NOT going to place a clown's interests ahead of their own. Would you? 18. How did a 'dummy' master the spherical geometry and 3-D navigation required for air/celestial navigation? It is clear to see by anyone not blinded by seething hatred that the claims of JMc III was not a qualified carrier pilot, or indeed, a pilot of any kind, are simply IMPOSSIBLE. Period. The End.
I do have some questions if you don't mind so I can look into all of this. Other than the video we all have seen, what is a source? I'm open to anything. McCain or not, the fire parties were not properly trained and men died. Hind sight. The AO's as well at the time did things different. You know my opinion, but that is for later. I may be considering McCains action at the time to the Navy standards of today. I'm open to your side.
John, Bravo Zulu. Replying on YT is ponderous with long threads. I have no problem comm-ing with you email. Make a junk one if you want, mine is jamesgpobog at yahoo dot com Feel free to write me. I've just had a couple ephphanies concerning your 'passion' question. I'll mention them here, but don't want to air them in public but I have no problem discussing them with you email. First, I did something bad at the beginning of my active duty. As a hint, These are the three words I associate with my actions: cowardice, betrayal, and redemption. I just realized the fight I do about the Forrestal fire is part of that last word, redemption. Second, the link below is a vid that I am featured in. It is 30 minutes, and is a behind-the-scenes on Iowa BB61. In about the middle of the tape, I launch into comments about Clayton Hartwig, the sailor blamed for the gun explosion that killed 47 men inside turret #2. Notice a similarity? Injustice. Neither of the above 2 items I thought of until you asked the question. And yes, that really is me in the vid. 2 million+ views. I'm locally world famous... jamesgpobog at yahoo dot com czcams.com/video/dW83U4bkC_k/video.html Looking forward to corresponding with you.
A couple more things. Two books: "Sailors To The End", and "FIRE FIRE FIRE ON THE FLIGHT DECK AFT ! THIS IS NOT A DRILL !!!" Both contain LOTS of crew interviews and stories. Then there is the USS Forrestal Assoc. and Ken Killmeyer is the historian and compiler of Fire On the Flight Deck.
Good video James. Thank you for posting. Out of respect for you, I will keep my comments between us. I would like to know why this is such a passion for you? Do you follow any other Navy events? If you have time I'd like to hear the history of the Kitty Hawk, and Connie.
Nice turnaround. BTW, thanks for your service. Why the passion? I am a seeker of truth and make a big effort to not believe lies. I started this when I realized that I really wasn't sure myself about JMc being involved or not. As I've written, I have worked for a number of years with at least 2 people (ATC-1 J.J. Johnstone, and Lt. Bill Foster, A-8 driver) who knew JMc personally, served onboard with him and had him as an instructor. He was a good pilot and a real jerk. I have plenty of time (well, mostly). I'm 70% disabled, Blue Water Navy. Agent Orange gave me diabetes from drinking it during WESTPAC '72., so yeah, we can talk.
After all these years and him being buried, it's AFFF under the bridge at this point. Man, if he did wet start that's seriously f'd up. If he didn't, then a good officer got tarnished.
My point is that I desire TRUTH to prevail. I think it DOES matter, because to let lies slide gives you the revisionist history like the Holocaust deniers or claims of a moon landing hoax, not to mention chemtrails. IMHO, to paraphrase Barry Goldwater, 'Extremism in defense of TRUTH is no vice.' I would encourage you to do some research, or ask me about your doubts. As stated, your doubt is simply not possible for several reasons, depending on alleged scenario claimed. Wet starts do not produce the claimed result, and ultimately, there was no plane or flight deck behind McCain only ocean, so there was no pilot to startle or missile to cook off.
@@jamespobog3420 come on now on the chemtrails
@@johnrhodes101875 No such thing. And yes, I have looked.
United States NAVY SNIPE,1973-1977,SEMPER FORTIS AND SEMPER MAC
Guess whaaaaat? (You can go inside the turret of the USS Alabama and it's RAD ^_^)
There's a guided tour in T1 now...
It's a line not a rope.
I leave that stuff to the Bo'sun's Mates. I was a BT. Down in the hole, lines are pipes.
@@jamespobog3420 Barely Trainiable, but no more, us elite MM's have taken over. You are correct about steam lines, live steam, and dead steam - still wear no socks. Real snipes like BT's are a dying breed. MMCS(SS) Ken Badoian
I'm pretty sure the warships machine spirit would take offense of anyone climbing into her gun barrels,
No electricity or working hydraulics, therefore no working rammer spade = manual load. No elevation or train possible without power to servos and hydraulic lines.
Actually, the 5's train and point, just manually. Pointing is easy, train is a MAJOR pain in the stern.
No rammer spade???
The mounts are not powered now.
Thank you for sharing this amazing tour along with superb graphics to accompany it. It is so incredible how cramped it is throughout the barbette and how much is crammed within. I'd hate to think of what it took to have to replace a piece of equipment deep within. Also, I thank all of you dedicated sailors who served our great nation keeping us safe here at home.
Can you see the 3D-model at about 1 minute somewhere where you can rotate and zoom into it by yourself?
That's why they call them Johnny WetJet McCain him doing what he did with his afterburners started that fire which started disaster:( there used to be a good video pointing out where fire stream started flowed to and why also going over who, what ,where's in realtime but seems to of been scrubbed can't find anywhere. It had lotta veteran servicemen saying lotta bad things. Seems like dudes wreckless nature and cocky pompus mentality plus pissed off having to hold up on deck mixed were tragedy in the making. Was unintentional but punishable for sure if truth was known , Pappa Admiral & the club took their boy under their wing made him serve a good purpose with even more rewards phhft... .
There you go you got it right, grand pappy and pappy saved his treasonous ass when he was released from his visit at the Hilton
@@timmiller745 Again. Timmy, explain how a man dead for 22 years helped cover up for his grandson. Your FAIL is becoming palpable.
"That's why they call them Johnny WetJet McCain him doing what he did with his afterburners " ROFLMFAO. You MDS types (McCain Derangement Syndrome) don't even realize that your posts reveal that you are completely ignorant of the subject. The news flash for you, Skippy, is that the A-4 Skyhawk does not have an afterburner. LOL.....
@@jamespobog3420 he used to do that with other jets like the f4 Phantom that's where he got the name from what I understand from the now scrubbed interviews of servicemen of that era. Good point still doesn't mean he couldn't flood the engine or dump fuel the documentary I seen clearly showed the fuel pool on the deck coming from his plane and going towards the plane then that plane igniting the fuel pool and then the rocket shot off. Funny how that documentary is now poof I wish could share it. Dude crashed like 5 jets and was known for being wreckless from what have read from many sources. Guess will never know the truth till leave this world.
@@jamespobog3420 nobody has McCain derangement syndrome as you call it. That fucker has been burning in hell for a couple of years now. Veterans of the Vietnam War sleep peacefully at night knowing that Songbird is getting what deserves. Ole Hanoi Jane sounds like she's not far behind.
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Iowa: Just sleeping, boys, I'm not dead.
Same with the other 3 Iowa's. They are VERY much capable!
From what I have heard about the USS Iowa's situation the only thing keeping her from taking a cruise is the restrictions placed upon her as a museum ship. Well that and lack of crew to sail her. Other than that she's supposedly in seaworthy shape aside from turret 2. Her boilers and engineering plant have been fully restored and are functional. So asleep, not dead is apt. To be more accurate she is asleep with one eye open.
Your comments about the propulsion system are incorrect. At the very least, the boilers need to be re-bricked and possibly re-tubed. No such thing as a 'fully restored' engineering plant. She is NOT even close to raising steam. Also every single sea chest is welded over, so she'd have to go into drydock. The main deck is in terrible shape, and in fact, has termites. CEC (Combat Engagement Center, or 'Strike') was virtually stripped when she came to San Pedro. Could she be put back in running condition? Theoretically yes. Practically, no. LOTS of time and money needed. What IS interesting is that except T2, not a single gun on her has been de-milled. But the guns....the 16's will never fire again, because there is no ammo. No spare barrels, no barrel liners, no powder, no projectiles. Nothing. Now, on top of that, there is the Navy's quote to Johnathan Williams, the CEO, "If the museum fails, she will go to scrap. We do NOT want her back." Lots of mis-info and rumor about her status, but them's the facts.
I spent three days on the Iowa when it was in the Baltic in 1985, it's the only time I have been impressed by the Yank Navy !!
Great video, very informative and interesting, love the Iowa class battleships
Imagine how damn loud it would be in there
I cannot speak for the main guns, but in the case of the museum's 5" blank shots, it's just a big 'thump', even with the doors open. The 5" now uses 2 pounds of black powder for the blank shots.
Enemies beware...💪💪💪
It's a lot more complex than I ever imagined. So much equipment! A lot of complex things to know and do in hot, cramped, dangerous conditions. Hats off!
The very noticeable paradox is that externally, she is gigantic, but inside, she can be EXTREMELY cramped.
I knew I’d seen a video of a mock firing somewhere. Someone attributed it to the Massachusetts but I swore it was the Iowa. So what on earth did they use for this effect, cause that was louder than the 5in that they do?
All I can tell you is that it was a professional pyro shot, a mortar in the muzzle, and a bang box. The event was a special one , a fundraiser for the org within the SEAL community that takes care of families that have lost their father/husband. MOH recipient from the Vietnam war, Michael E. Thornton was there. I ran into him (he was the first MOH I'd ever seen) and even though my navy time was 1970-1976, when I saw that MOH moving toward me, training took over and I automatically snapped to attention and saluted.
Really enjoyed the video loved the details of how much it takes to fire the guns
There is talk?.d.o.d..might.retrofit..the..iowa.or..big mo.back.into.service.with.one exception.the#2 turrent.will.be.removed and in.its.place.a.fire.support..platform..automated.will.be installed.
Not gonna happen, for a good number of reasons. 1. The CEO, Jonathan Williams was told by the USN "We do not want the ships back." 2. All spare barrels have been destroyed and there is no ability to make new ones. 3. There are no projectiles. All have been destroyed. 4. There is no powder. All has been destroyed. 5. There are no spare parts for any of the legacy equipment. You can't repair anything. 6. The people who know how to run the ships are 50+ years old. 7. The Iowa has been officially designated "National Museum of the Surface Navy". 8. In a nutshell, it would ne a waste of money. There is SO MUCH work needed to do something like that, it makes no sense to pay to deconstruct, then pay to reconstruct. A far better plan would be to purpose design and build new.
Not gonna happen for all the reasons mentioned above, BUT beyond that - the only reason they were updated the last time was to expand the coverage of modern weapons like cruise missiles. Today, those would be the ONLY things you'd really be able to use on an Iowa - give me a scenario where they'd need the guns? An Arleigh Burke destroyer can fire TONS of various missiles at nearly any target, from ICBM's to land targets, aircraft, etc - it's radar, sensor, and CIC setup is vastly superior to anything they could ever retrofit onto an Iowa.
WARNING: I am getting very very close to kicking ANYONE who insists McCain started the fire off the cliff. Here is a link to an interview with Dave Dollarhide. He was the pilot of the plane just forward of McCain. People should probably read it before bloviating about how McCain started the fire. www.powmiamemorial.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/Conversation-with-Dave-Dollarhide.pdf Now, if you believe he did, but are capable of engaging in civil, intelligent, intellectually honest discourse, we can talk, but mindless parroting of zero I.Q. conspiracies will not happen. My channel, my rules. Deal with it.
Kick kick. Where are you? Go to ww2 and see what it is like.
@@jsnjcnt You have been somewhat civil in earlier posts. Don't ruin it. Also, I'll assume you now have read my statements about my stepfather. Do not make the mistake of supposing I do not know about WW2.
@@jsnjcnt What does WWII. Have to do with anything. Billy J Shafer USS Saratoga CVA 60 1967-1972
@@billyshafer3182 it has to do with you and everyone that has served in the armed forces. Sure maybe you weren't in ww2 but every soldier that sacrificed their lives or came back home deserves to be honored for their service. Thank you for your service to you and every other service man.
@@jsnjcnt The fact remains. McCain had nothing to do with anything. Just in the wrong place at the wrong time.
OK, all you conspiracy believers, Here's a clean diagram of the USS Forrestal. Think you know what happened? Think McCain started the fire? Here's your chance to try and prove it. Despite many requests over many years, no 'Bleever' has ever produced any sort of explanatory diagram. None. There is a reason for this, they can't. Anything they produce MUST match the existing, known, factual evidence, That is video, pix, interviews, and documents. Another HUGE problem for 'Bleevers' is their constant droning of 'fake' concerning docs, pix, etc. Here's the problem. In a disaster scenario like this, 'fake' presupposes there are 'real' pix, docs, etc. Where are they? Produce them. I have worked in a couple photo labs, and a dirty little secret of photo labs is that when anything 'good' comes along multiple copies appear mysteriously, and get 'collected'. Should be easy as pie to find some of the 'real' stuff... Download the diagram and do a markup yourself. Lay out the scenario. I'm not expecting you to draw or insert little airplanes, just mark locations and directions, i.e. where was McCain's plane? What direction was it pointed? Where were other planes located that were involved in the start of the fire? Where was the plane affected by McCain's supposed 'wet start'? Was a rocket involved? Or did McCain drop bombs? I'm going to take a big chance here and assume that you are capable of downloading and marking up a jpg file, and also that you have some sort of scenario in mind that can be illustrated. So, have at it. I'll wait... www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/ship/images/forrestal-line2.gif
0:05 something exploded from the top
That's a sound booster. That is an FX shot, nothing like what is done with the 5-inch.
This video is totally bias in favor of john McCain.Just ask the famlies of some of these men and you might hear a different story . The man was no hero but a disgrace. TRUMP WAS RIGHT....MAGA!!!!!
Sorry you feel that way, but you are 100% mistaken. I was no fan of McCain, my parents lost $500,000 in the Keating scandal. As I have stated many times this vid deals with one thing and one thing only, the cause of the fire, and McCain did NOT cause the fire. If you have evidence that he did, please produce it, and by evidence I mean empirical, objective evidence, not some conspiratorial nutball youtube video full of lies and impossible scenarios. I'll wait.
@@jamespobog3420 I heard what I said about on the DR, Micheal Savage I believe and may be mistaken because it was years ago.You may believe Dr, Savage is a crack pot or a shock jock and thats what the left wing MARXIST MEDIA wants you to believe . Another thing I have heard testmonies from people that were directly involved in this incident including comments in your You tube comment section. I am not saying he cause this on purpose. There is too much evidence that the man is a disgraceful idiot and so is some of his family. I do want to say also I am sorry about your parents loss in the Keating scandal. Thanks for your reply.
Thank you for your civility. You've taken the first step. The problem with all the MDI (McCain Did It) scenarios is that there is zero connection with reality. It is all fantasy, written by people who prima facie know nothing about carriers, their operation, or naval aircraft design and features. This means that to people who DO have knowledge of those subjects, the conspiracy theories are ridiculous fantasies. MDI (McCain did it) says he deliberately did a 'wet start' to startle the pilot behind him who then accidentally fired a rocket into McCain's plane. Physically impossible. The start sequence of an A-4 is by command, and the commands come from the Plane Captain, standing in front of the plane. The pilot execute his commands.. There is no random act by the pilot. Here's another extremely important point few know, certainly no MDI believer knows it. ANYONE on an active flight deck can shut it down at any time. ANYONE, from the lowest new recruit, to a visiting Admiral. If an unsafe condition or action is observed the 'emergency stop' signal is given and activity ceases on the flight deck. There are lots of 'white shirts' (safety observers' ) all over looking for things like that. A deliberate 'wet start' is horseplay and horseplay is simply zero tolerance. You see, there is a person up in PriFly called the 'Air Boss'. The ship belongs to the Captain, the flight deck belongs to the Air Boss. Even the CAPTAIN is afraid of the Air Boss. Pulling stunts like that could cost McCain his wings. It is physically impossible for a plane to have been parked behind McCain, since his squadron's planes were parked with their tailpipes hanging over the ocean on the port-aft part of the flight deck. All photographic evidence of the event and standard flight deck procedure proves this. It is physically impossible for any plane on a carrier to deliberately drop or fire a weapon while sitting on the deck. There are several safety systems, one of which is a complete disconnect of the weapons system while the plane is sitting on it's landing gear., Also, the scenario that a switch was accidently hit on McCain scrambling out is physically impossible. There is not just one switch, there are several, and they must be activated in sequence. By the way, I have the operations manual for the A-4 Skyhawk and that is my source. There are also several interesting illustrations of how many people are around a plane on startup, some of them with firefighting gear. The A-4 Skyhawks were not loaded with rockets that day so neither McCain nor the ghost pilot 'behind' him could have fired one. IF IF IF McCain had fired a rocket, the fire would have started on the other side of the ship farther forward. Footage of the fire proves this, because the men running toward the fire are running from the exact area that the imaginary rocket would have hit. They would be dead, not running toward the fire. McCain is faulted for going to his Ready Room after the fire started. Here's something very few non-carrier people know. Squadron pilots are not part of the ship's crew. The ship does not assign their General Quarters stations, their squadron does. McCain's General Quarters station, as with most squadron pilots, was his ready room. He went exactly where he was ordered to go.
I always wonder that will the breach cut your finger when you loading the round.
Finger? The breechblock will take your arm if it can. You simply DO NOT put any body part at all inside the chamber, not ever a quarter inch.
@@jamespobog3420 Thank you for your reply Sir, stay safe!
The 16s would probably be too loud to mess with
There actually has been a 16" shoot. It was a pyro shot, done with a mortar, IIRC in the left or center gun of T1. It was loud as hell and set off car alarms in the surrounding neighborhood. The event was a fundraiser for a Special Forces org that takes care of families and children of Seals KIA. Probably scared the hell out of Ports O' Call...
@@jamespobog3420 Please tell me there's a video of that somewhere
@@fionawimber1028 You mean.. This? czcams.com/video/rRAbreMUtm4/video.html
@@jamespobog3420 😂
Well done, truly enjoyed!
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My Dad was part of the crew on a 5 inch gun during WW2.I was able to tour the Iowa a few years ago and I brought back pictures and a piece of the old deck for my Dad before he passed away.He enjoyed sharing stories of his service durning the war and I loved hearing those stories.
The likeable sidecar ultimately cause because quiver generically mate alongside a well-to-do seeder. kindly, purring pajama
So much quieter then the real thing
Nice but you missed the carrier
Hes Not supposed to hit
To be fair it was a joke right... right?