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Why is China Dominating Ultra High Voltage DC?
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Can we use the afternoon sun in Perth to power the evening in Sydney? Imagine harnessing sunlight from thousands of kilometers away to power our cities at peak times. In today's video, we explore the groundbreaking energy technology that can do just that. Ultra High Voltage Direct Current, or UHVDC is reshaping how power is transmitted over vast distances. As countries globally seek efficient renewable energy solutions, China leads the charge in this technology, successfully employing UHVDC to link its hydro, solar and wind-rich western regions with densely populated eastern cities.
This success prompts a critical question: Why haven’t countries like the USA or Australia, with seemingly similar geographies, adopted UHVDC? Consider the potential-what if UHVDC could link Western Australia's abundant solar resources to the main Australian grid? This could allow Sydney at 5 PM to use solar power generated at 3 PM in Perth. Or in the USA it could be California’s 2PM sunshine powering New York’s 5PM, or transporting wind from the lightly populated mid west to the cities. The implications of such a capability are profound and could revolutionize energy use across time zones.
Why is UHVDC not more widespread? To answer this questions, we're going to examine how elevating from traditional HVDC to UHVDC allows longer distance and more efficient energy transmission. We'll also look into how much UHVDC has been installed in China, compare it with installations elsewhere, and discuss what future plans may hold. We'll dive into the technological specifics, understand its advantages, and confront the formidable challenges that have curtailed its broader adoption. Stay tuned as we explore why this transformative technology, while a game-changer in China, is still on the sidelines elsewhere.
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00:00 Intro
01:42 HVDC vs UHVDC
02:47 UHVDC links in China
04:05 Projects outside China
05:15 Why aren’t there many UHVDC outside of China?
07:09 Why is China leading with UHVDC?
07:35 Can we have UHVDC link in Australia?
08:56 Will we see UHVDC links crisscrossing the planet soon?
09:15 Outro
Sources:
For data, images & graphs
en.people.cn/n3/2018/0622/c90000-9474097.html#:~:text=loss%20of%20only%201.5%20percent%20per%201%2C000%20kilometers
web.archive.org/web/20180730045905/www.siemens.com/press/pool/de/events/2012/energy/2012-07-wismar/factsheet-hvdc-e.pdf
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultra-high-voltage_electricity_transmission_in_China
www.electricnet.com/doc/china-to-construct-high-voltage-transmission-0001
www.mhi.ca/news-events/news/25
www.hitachienergy.com/uk-ie/en/about-us/customer-success-stories/changji-guquan-uhvdc-link
www.hitachienergy.com/uk-ie/en/news/features/2020/07/the-world-s-most-powerful-transmis-sion-system-facilitated-by-hi
www.nsenergybusiness.com/projects/changji-guquan-uhvdc-transmission-project/#:~:text=The%20Changji%2DGuquan%20ultra%2Dhigh,operating%20at%201%2C100kV%20voltage.
www.nsenergybusiness.com/projects/changji-guquan-uhvdc-transmission-project/
www.hitachienergy.com/in/en/about-us/customer-success-stories/north-east-agra
www.hitachienergy.com/uk-ie/en/about-us/customer-success-stories/raigarh---pugalur-uhvdc-link
www.nsenergybusiness.com/projects/belo-monte-rio-de-janeiro-uhvdc-transmission-project/
www.diva-portal.org/smash/get/diva2:276817/fulltext01
Reports and Scientific Papers
publications.jrc.ec.europa.eu/repository/bitstream/JRC97720/ld-na-27527-en-n.pdf
climate-laws.org/documents/14th-five-year-plan-on-modern-energy-system-planning_8f22?q=
iea-etsap.org/E-TechDS/PDF/E12_el-t&d_KV_Apr2014_GSOK.pdf
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Komentáře

  • @Phillbuddy
    @Phillbuddy Před 18 hodinami

    This has come in handy with today's opposition announcement of a half baked nuclear plan. Why can't we get a live stream fact check footnote if they are selling the Australian public garbage?

  • @tezzawrath9410
    @tezzawrath9410 Před 19 hodinami

    BREAKING: "Clean Energy" Engineer calls greatest threat to "renewables" grift in Australia..."dumb" Note: No "totally vested interests" were harmed in the making of this agitprop.

  • @raybieze
    @raybieze Před 23 hodinami

    Good luck getting Texas to share or connect its stupid grid to anyone else…

  • @grantpiper6358
    @grantpiper6358 Před 23 hodinami

    great vid, but the environmental cost of batteries must be factored in, as per the environmental cost of UHVDC. all those raw materials and manufacturing don't come cheap environmentally or energy wise.

  • @polystone806
    @polystone806 Před 23 hodinami

    Hello rosie.great job.i have a question please.wich type of iron ore that work with this new process.pellet,lump,powder or low grade...?thanks a lot.

  • @mariankoncek4354
    @mariankoncek4354 Před dnem

    5:05 isn't it the crucial part to tell that in order to get drag force in such angle so it's component produce tangential force (and therefore output torque of turbine) that blades need to be shaped in such way? Tear shape makes this possible but I see no way this could work if it had rectangle or circle shape

  • @stevebalkema2237
    @stevebalkema2237 Před dnem

    You just lied, solar and wind energy is the most expensive way to generate electricity!

  • @peterjohn5834
    @peterjohn5834 Před dnem

    Rosie, Could you please explain how we convert Spodumene into Lithium Hydroxide? Is it possible to produce Spodumene to lithium carbonate and used in LFP batteries? Thanks heaps

  • @nettiebee
    @nettiebee Před dnem

    Sounds rather complex and needing lots of resources to build them - seems to require lots of infrastructure to export the electricity to land. Are they really cost effective? And I question how environmentally friendly to marine life?

  • @mgnet
    @mgnet Před dnem

    You know, a long time ago EVs and ICEs used to live along, then EVs disappeared and ICEs prevailed...this is natural selection and it will happen again because reality and physics are stronger than lies and political mandates.

  • @aiart3453
    @aiart3453 Před 2 dny

    Hey Rosie! You are awesome, thanks for the amazing video!

  • @elinys2843
    @elinys2843 Před 2 dny

    Why? Because it’s the right thing to do. Why isn’t the west? Because big oil, big finance, big industry, big capitalism, big politics, … can’t find a way to profit from it (yet).

  • @frankanddanasnyder3272

    So offshore wind power cost up to twice the onshore cost per kWh......in other words , without government mandates and subsidies, these facilities would never be built in a free economy!

  • @danielex5142
    @danielex5142 Před 2 dny

    This woman admits she has a vested interest in renewables. These turbines are futile for the climate and horrific for power bills but great for investors !

  • @gunsumwong3948
    @gunsumwong3948 Před 2 dny

    This woman doesn't have practical knowledge and is selling theoretical ideas. Marine cables are limited by the capacity of power it can carry and there is no way it can be made economically viable. Any electrician can tell that! Also UHVDC would be used and not HVDC for such distance.

  • @ShuskiCross
    @ShuskiCross Před 2 dny

    UK selling its electricity to other countries, whilst for the longest time we paid 40p/kwh, even now it's still 22p, when before covid it was 11p...

  • @mountainman9145
    @mountainman9145 Před 2 dny

    The engineering stuff is good for the tech nerds but most of us are wanting the bottom line on the economic factors with respect to renewables replacing fossil fuels completely. Is offshore wind power going to be the major replacement for the current fossil fuel component of electrical energy generation?

  • @user-ww5oc9bh1e
    @user-ww5oc9bh1e Před 2 dny

    1 kg of coal runs a washing machine from 6 hours. Available 24/7 1 kg of oil runs a washing machine for 9 hours. Available 24/7 1 kg of renewables runs a washing machine for less than 1 hour. Available only when the wind is blowing and the sun is shinning. Nominally 30% of the time in Australia. 1 kg of Uranium runs a washing machine for 2000 years. Available 24/7. WARNING - The washing machine may not last 2000 years. I wonder which energy source makes sense.

  • @whokilledmax
    @whokilledmax Před 2 dny

    Also like other Chinese megaprojects, designed with the core goal of safety in mind, it could provide a Plan B to somewhat get rid of the dependence on imported fossil fuels.

  • @whokilledmax
    @whokilledmax Před 2 dny

    UHV transmission and energy storage devices are not in conflict; in fact they always appear as twins. There are hundreds of pumped storage plants under construction in China, along with various other forms of energy storage centers.

  • @user-oq7yk7zu9q
    @user-oq7yk7zu9q Před 3 dny

    As a Chinese I'm not sure if I'm right or not, as far as I know for example, most of the electric power companies in the US are divided by states and there are too many of them, so it's difficult for them to peak the power resources between different states, and the power equipments are aging.However, China's power system is completely deployed and peaked by the national power grid in general.This makes the entire country's power grid run very efficiently.

  • @Charvak-Atheist
    @Charvak-Atheist Před 3 dny

    It will make sense if you start selling electricity to other countries.

  • @justtinkering6713
    @justtinkering6713 Před 3 dny

    Probably because they don't have to negotiate contracts, they say you WILL build this for this price.

  • @martinwhatman5027
    @martinwhatman5027 Před 3 dny

    Hi Rosie, Yesterday the ABC ran a "Offshore wind zone for Illawarra coast given green light" article. Thought you would like to know. Cheers.

  • @dalsenov
    @dalsenov Před 3 dny

    Very informative Thank you!

  • @rangerscoach
    @rangerscoach Před 3 dny

    Good luck with this take

  • @aivarbattalov2316
    @aivarbattalov2316 Před 3 dny

    That's a lot of research

  • @krslavin
    @krslavin Před 3 dny

    Could HVDC cables be manufactured on the ship laying the cable? Just keep the ship supplied with the materials it needs.

  • @markjmaxwell9819
    @markjmaxwell9819 Před 3 dny

    When the battle between Edison and Westinghouse was taking place with Tesla also involved over the future of electricity and whether AC or DC would end up being used for power transmission. The technology to create and handle Ultra High Voltage DC did not exist at that point in time. But with the move to renewable energy UHVDC does make more sense but with the ability to split a line and use 240 Volt and also run three phase on the same transmission system traditional High Voltage AC power transmission is still the king with current manufacturing equipment set up for traditional power HVAC transmission. I still don't think UHVDC will replace High Voltage AC power transmission anytime soon. 😎🇦🇺

  • @thematronsmilitia
    @thematronsmilitia Před 4 dny

    The diagram of china being a cable octopus demonstrates the flaw in thinking it would give china control. Why would it make sense for a cable to go around the Cape of Good Hope south of Africa to Argentina? It wouldn't, there would be a cable from West Africa, which already suffers from a lack of electrification, to Brazil, a stretch of ocean shorter than the width of Brazil. China's policy of mutual development generally gives both cooperative ownership and local control over the overseas infrastructure projects China finances

  • @thematronsmilitia
    @thematronsmilitia Před 4 dny

    I wonder if aluminum bronze is a good high voltage conductor option, it has very good corrosion resistance and high tensile strength as well as being an excellent conductor

  • @garymartin9777
    @garymartin9777 Před 4 dny

    what happens when a submerged hvdc cable gets cut? last time I checked salt water is a pretty good conductor.

  • @Luddite-vd2ts
    @Luddite-vd2ts Před 4 dny

    Hi Rosie. Can you talk slower? My brain appreciates an occasional pause so that I can absorb all of that wonderful tech loveliness you're pouring forth. But boy, what a pace! 😊 My head hurts after a few minutes.

  • @FLESKFIST
    @FLESKFIST Před 4 dny

    awesome content, put me in a happy mood for the day even!

  • @peterwundersitz3715

    dont look at the data. look what happened today.

  • @peterwundersitz3715

    I don't know who is watching the NEM graphs, but you are wrong. Victoria had no sun or wind and no one had wind there was no way that we could have ........I give up. I have been watching the NEM for some time

  • @ganboonmeng5370
    @ganboonmeng5370 Před 4 dny

    China have excessive power.in the west...that need.to transfer to the east...😊😅

  • @lawrenceheyman435
    @lawrenceheyman435 Před 4 dny

    Well global politics aside, it can only be a positive for trying to reduce global warming.

  • @ChevronTango
    @ChevronTango Před 5 dny

    A lot of the tech in those turbines is cheaper because it was stolen from European companies. Some have even been found running pirated software by engineers called to consult and inspect them.

  • @ram64man
    @ram64man Před 5 dny

    Yes but we paid for it , all the wind turbines are built with carbon offset credits and un grants and yet 5he biggest polluter responsible for 58% of the world’s harmful emissions won’t do a thing about it locally till 200 once they have effectively used all of china’s domestic coal

  • @deanfielding4411
    @deanfielding4411 Před 5 dny

    That’s really interesting thank you. 😊

  • @theunknownunknowns5168

    Hi Rosie, in the last couple of days Deutsche Welle News Ukraine covered a story on the strategic move to solar+ batteries in Ukraine with a goal of making an "unbreakable power grid" through decentralised generation. The national and local governments are incentivising solar uptake for critical infrastructure like hospitals but also highrise apartment buildings to communities to individual homes. Also over 300 grid scale solar farms are being built. Solar+battery build out may be the fastest renewable uptake in history in my opinion. It was in Ukrainian so I had to use a translation app.

    • @theunknownunknowns5168
      @theunknownunknowns5168 Před 5 dny

      Poland are planning offshore wind too. For obvious strategic reasons. Well obvious to all but the boneheads.

    • @deanfielding4411
      @deanfielding4411 Před 5 dny

      That’s cool. Another reason I love renewables is that it stops dictators like Putin hold everyone to ransom.

    • @adrianthoroughgood1191
      @adrianthoroughgood1191 Před 4 dny

      I've been thinking for over a year this would be the best way to keep the power on for at least the majority of Ukrainians while under attack. It makes a lot more sense than rebuilding the power stations which then get bombed again. The closer to end users the batteries are the more they will keep power even if substations are targeted. It's great they are doing this now.

    • @theunknownunknowns5168
      @theunknownunknowns5168 Před 3 dny

      ​@@adrianthoroughgood1191 Also I saw a report months back Poland is going to build offshore wind for all the same reasons. A strategically robust energy supply.

    • @dashong8912
      @dashong8912 Před 3 dny

      Will there still be a Ukraine that the West will support?

  • @GameDesignerJDG
    @GameDesignerJDG Před 5 dny

    I'd be careful about the term 'South China Seas'. There's a major controversy and a bit of a tepid (not cold or hot) conflict going on there.

  • @sabineraider
    @sabineraider Před 5 dny

    Excellent video!! Using excess solar/wind electricity to split water & store energy as a buffer is the smoothing curve answer.

  • @Petch85
    @Petch85 Před 5 dny

    0:04 Where are the US and India on this chart. Do they have so much space on land that they do not need offshore wind?

    • @fjalics
      @fjalics Před 4 dny

      The US has a high population density on the coasts. Texas has a lot of wind, but so does everything north of Texas all the way to Canada, but those states are far from the coasts. Anyway, bottom line, the US is lagging, but starting.

    • @adrianthoroughgood1191
      @adrianthoroughgood1191 Před 4 dny

      The fossil fuel industry lobbying politicians to slow down the transition has been even stronger in the US than other places.

    • @al4nmcintyre
      @al4nmcintyre Před 4 dny

      @Petch85 No, we just have so many people afraid of it destroying their view or giving them "windmill cancer" or causing a woke Marxist one-world-gubmint takeover that we just don't install much wind anywhere. 🙃

  • @Petch85
    @Petch85 Před 5 dny

    0:04 how can Denmark even be seen on this chart. They have a population of ~6 milion out of 8000 milion people. That is <0.1% of all people.

    • @jasenanderson8534
      @jasenanderson8534 Před 5 dny

      Denmark has been developing and installing wind power since the 1970s and has some of the most extensive installations anywhere in Europe. It took me all of 30 seconds to find out that information. 😅

    • @Petch85
      @Petch85 Před 4 dny

      @@jasenanderson8534 I think you should keep looking for more information. It is not like they have installed all the wind they could since 1970, it is actually very disappointing when you look closer, especially in the 00's. Denmark have about 2.7 GW offshore wind, and about 7 GW wind in total. (install capacity, average production is only about 2.3 GW) This is fine, but the world capacity is about 8000 GW so Denmark should like 0.1%. It is not like wind turbines is a super protected technology that only Denmark have acces to and the danish companies have been more than willing to cell turbines to everyone that asked for them. There are plenty of countries with windy coast lines around the world. Thus it is very disappointing that the world total capacity of offshore wind is only 56 GW, more than it is impressive that Denmark have 2.7 GW offshore wind capacity.

    • @benjaminlamey3591
      @benjaminlamey3591 Před 4 dny

      the reason is the north sea. all european countries you see on this chart have a part of the shallow waters of the north sea. very easy and cost effective to install wind turbines there.

  • @axelhallen5802
    @axelhallen5802 Před 5 dny

    I say build stuff out of them.

  • @diytwoincollege7079

    Shipping electricity over the ocean would be a highly vulnerable system. Good in theory, but not in practice.

  • @damianm-nordhorn116

    It's a German issue. ..or would be, if we weren't part of the world's biggest machine, the European power grid, and if this/our Europe wasn't surrounded by windy seas.

  • @mstavros_youtube
    @mstavros_youtube Před 5 dny

    Send this to the Libs.