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If you think archer deserves dukes anger, youre reading it wrong. Archers genuinely trying to empathise, hes not taling the piss. Hes saying theyre both victims in this cycle, both dehumanised by the system. Hes genui ely shocked when duke gets cross. Duke knows this but hes saving face by reminding archer that things are as they are and he is still very much in power. Archers emasculated him by mistake because he overestimated dukes capacity for free thought. Again, duke is well aware at this moment that he is in fsct the true prisoner but lacks the courage to face it. I dont think he would have really hit archer hes just angry at his own weakness. Id like to think later on in dukes life he's thought about this exchange and is remorseful. He certainly reapects archer and archer respects him too.

This scene always stood out in a movie that was already jammed with memorable ones, he knows the kid is right and can’t accept it, as bad as the screws were Duke was probably the only one trying to give advice and help, his realisation that archer is right dispite his smugness annoys him and he lashes out the only way he knows how, by becoming what he knows archer said he was, a cog in the wheel

This guy was one of the good officers and Archer disrespects him and makes an enemy of him. Archer may have been smart but he is silly, he lacks wisdom and good sense. He never answered the officer's point about what to do with thugs terrorising decent people.

wait so this movie only amounts to a guy doubling an 18 to get a 3 ? lame

Archer being a vegetarian, walking bare foot in the snow cause he wont wear lather, just to make life as difficult as possible for the screws. "Mecca!!!???" 😂

Duke didn't deserve Archer's lip in this scene. Archer constantly complained that he wasn't being treated like a human being and when one of the screws actually does he insults the guy. It's easy when you're young to look an older person's life and think they're a failure but you've yet to find out exactly how well you're going to turn out as an adult.

Archers final comment of it being a humiliation to be a long serving officer is off the mark. Not all staff want to be promoted ive served close to a decade and what ive gained is patience and a better understanding of the human condition. Smartarses like archer might have the odd insight but this officer is right in that they're mugs to themselves. I have seen many many archers whove become old men who realise long after its too late that their little 1 man crusade against the system is for nought. It cant be improved from the inside of a cell

Mr duke played harry cross in brookside 😊

There are lots of Archer moments in life, if you are that way inclined. I think something triggers it early and suddenly you're living life with an altered perspective, like on a step ladder of original thought. It's that spirit of I'm going to be me, however difficult that makes things, and no-one can force me into being anything else. Suffice to say, it does not sit well with conventional society and conventional "success" is unlikely to follow, but not everyone chooses the conventional definition of success.

Jailer and jailing

the amount of pedo teachers in the 70s schools was immense ...especially the male pe teachers...

True words and insights can be more cutting than actions when they uncover buried pain

I relate to Archer the most out of everyone in this film, though I spent too long sucking off the system, I did find my little moments of slowly chipping away at teachers or other figures of pointless authority. I remember at school I used to talk to one of the more enlightened teachers, I told him that respect is earned and that I found it baffling that the teachers just instantly expected respect without even showing any cause to receive it. Civility was one thing, but there were very few educators I respected. I also went to a Special school (High Functioning Aspergers in a school with very few like minded people, Archer's point about conversation is very apt for me), education was abysmal, I was also ill equipped to deal with the outside world and consequently, I fell apart. I rejected the outside world and fell into a 5 year stint of anxiety and agoraphobia, which has had devastating affects on my physical and mental health. I am slowly piecing it all back together now and have chosen to take it all as a positive experience, a lesson. But I feel instituonalised myself in a far less obvious and far less brutal manner (would never want to compare my own lifes experience to men who have or had no freedom at all). I also feel cheated. But the bastards haven't ground me down, I face a lot of abuse for my opinions, I have lost friends for my refusal to simply trundle along and cow tow to the modern lines (Trans for example) and I feel an overwhelming empathy for the misfits I know and see out and about. But I also smile. I am ridiculed sometimes for my sense of dress (I'm 23 and I am very into Mod, Two Tone and Punk culture) and I think it is expected I simply do as I'm told and get on like everybody else. But I refuse. I certainly want to get myself sorted, and I do what I need there, doctors appointments, impending surgery etc, but in my own mind I refuse to let anyone grind me down to their level. I have to mask and act a little to survive sure, but I still pick my moments and take my chances to stick two fingers up to the world and undermine those arse holes who mock and belittle and attempt to crush those of us who can think for ourselves and have chosen an inner liberty in spite of the overwhelming majority who lack neither the liberty or the desire for it, and take on the role of supressor at every moment. Society is a neccessry evil, as is conformity, and a world without those things and even people like Mr Dukes certainly couldn't function, but the few of us who have unlocked something else and choose where possible to severely limit our contribution to the collective lie needed to have our functioning societies, well, I think we enjoy it. I see no reason to change. Perhaps as the years roll by I shall mellow, but in all the crap thrown at me over the years by the education system, the state, the innefectual and redundant health service or even the bullies and conformist bores (mostly of my own generation), the only thing they've succeded in creating is a stubborn old bastard who won't back down until he's taken himself as far as this life and his effort and skill permit. Don't let the bastards grind you down - Norman Stanley Fletcher

That's a great scene.

Harry Cross in the house

Archer was out of line in This scene always makes me cringe the way he was here being a right prat and a foolish smart arse😏

Harry Cross, on the case!

Archer was the best character in the whole film, he was a smartarse, but he definitely was smarter than everybody there, screw or con. Also, Archer bowed for absolutely nobody, in a place that tough, he even wound up the most powerful man there - the warden. And he used his biggest passion - religion against him and royally took the piss! Archer, for a non violent type had balls of steel!

when he saidd pip pip i'm knackered jolly ho..i knew this was a pivotal moment in cinema history

Beautiful prison though

Archer wasn’t being rude he’s just intelligent and speaks he’s mind not realise he’s offending people ha

Like school when I was a teenager, always trying to push it.

It was very violent then for Young people . Whether it was in School , outside the house , inside the house. Even the workplace .

Awesome movie 🎬

Much of our struggle is in trying to fix people who see no need to improve or change. Get about your own business.

3:33 I think the suit Caan is wearing as he plays bacarrat is so cool. I love those huge collars

I still want to know what Archer was banged up for? What crime did he commit to gather such a length!

He was the best character in Scum.

It's an important point about liberty. Those who are better natured and care about improving the world. But they're scorned and misunderstood, even by those they try to help.

Why is guy in his early 30s in borstal?

I see why this has only 95K views after 14 years. The scene just sucks. I see what it tries to do and it fails.

I like that each "face" has its own tune, and that we hear each tune with each "face" at the grand finale.

He who would be slave to a compass has the freedom of the sea.

Mecca Archer !!!!

The best scene in this Movie The BBC Version is on CZcams fyi

It's March 7th, 2024 and as a somewhat of a degenerate gambler, it's that rush when you're on a heater / cannot lose. Hitting some long shit odds or winning that progressively, larger wager. When you can "see the future" and everything is going as you perceived it BUT it all ends the same every time. You end up pissing it ALL back and more.. 😞😓 True gamblers know that it's not about the money won but the rush and suspense when you make that large wager and waiting for fate/the mathematics to tell you your fate in that 5-15 seconds.. 😲😳🫣

Those were the days - cash in Baccarat instead of chips.

Stark gave him more than just five cents.

This is what most of the teachers at my schools were like. I wasn't badly behaved and I certainly wasn't a bully, but I had a volcanic temper and a cruel tongue, and I used to get bored because the lessons always moved at a pace dictated by the class thicko who could barely write his own stupid name the same way twice. I got accused of being a troublemaker, I got accused of having an attitude problem, I got detentions, I got lines, I even got suspended - all because I objected to being pushed around and told what to do, think, say, and feel. Meanwhile, the genuine bullies and the arsehole kids got away with murder because the teachers were scared of the scumbags. Trevor from another Alan Clarke film, Made in Britain, summed it up when he asked his care worker if it would make it easier if he was 'thick in the head like the rest of them.'

BRILLIANT MOVIE BIT LIKE CUCKOO'S NEST EVERYONE GETS HURT IN THE END

Can someone break this scene down simpler... This might sound silly but I've never quite understood it, I'm young so maybe it's an age thing I dunno

This film was a great education for me . Carlin using his physical presence to make his mark and Archer using his brain. Both got the better of the system in the way they wanted.

No you bloody well don't you lock them up 🤣🤣🤣

Harris Cross in his former job. What a miserable bastard!

A classic 🇬🇧 🎥 still powerful today in my opinion a bit mad shorty after this film was released borstals started to shut down and quite a few are still open but changed to Youth offenders

Poor prisoners don't like to be treated like their not human. get a fucking tissue screws should be like this

Bravo !!!

😁😁 the guy is nice, but when u get the chance make fun of this guy 🤪🤪

The dialogue in this scene is amazing. Archer is wise beyond his years and the screw is too indoctrinated and stubborn to accept the truth being spoken to him.

Vegetarians…..I’ve shit em..!!!