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No not all. She just has mics set up to record the audio from the live kit.

Hey, thanks for the question. I just looked at the manual, and it looks like you can send MIDI CC and program change messages from Boss RC500. So if this is correct, you should be able to control Ableton with it! Note that the looper normally works best with MIDI notes, so if RC500 can’t send these, you may need to get something like BOME MIDI translator to convert the signals! Hope this helps

Yes! Totally. I have a video on my channel that walks you through this, if you’re interested? Thanks for the comment!

Yes - exactly! Performing these kind of arrangements means you need to be incredibly accurate in your loop performance; trust me it is easy to play a bad loop and then it stays in the song! Also, you need to have a good mechanism to remember what you need to play and when. I do this by having a ‘Cue Mix’ in my ears, which is on output channels 3 and 4, and contains the Click, plus an audio track which tells me what I need to play and when

@@olivergearing she must have a cue too, at least for performances

@@phantazzor defo

@@olivergearing or she uses Clyphx pro

LOL!!

This is brilliant news! Well done! Good luck with performing with the loooer set up - it is so fun!!

@@olivergearing I've been having a lot of fun with it, but I am now wondering how to actually capture the audio and export it (not the final product, but the whole progression of parts being added). If I record on a new audio tack, I get lots of problems. Depending on the input I choose, I get a super distorted and clipping sound, or no sound at all. I know this is not entirely related to the looper itself, but I'm curious to see if you have a solution. (I even tried OBS, but it's not recognizing my desktop audio for some strange reason).

nvm, i figured it out. Changed all my outputs on the looper tracks to one audio track and that worked.

@@N0xiousQ nice one! It is really satisfying when you solve these things!

Interesting - I normally go for 256, and it doesn’t affect my looping. Does it tell you how much latency you are getting in terms of milliseconds? I am not a computer whizz, but would assume it might be something to do with the PC or Mac? I normally get 13ms (from memory) latency at about 256 - I’ve tried higher buffer sizes and started to notice the latency, so I guess this must be an OK level of latency for me. I hope you don’t need a new computer!

@@olivergearingthanks! I actually rearranged my routing and it worked much better. I sadly do believe I probably need a new laptop (only 8GB) and I tend to run big projects lol. Thanks for the great video!

@@adbmusicify I’m glad there was a workaround!

Thank you so much - I really appreciate your comment! And thank you watching the Ableton vids!

This is a tricky thing to do, but is definitely possible. There are a couple of strategies. If you have 3 loopers setup, 1 can be the rhythm, the second the verse, the third the chorus. Starting and stopping 2 loopers can need quite a few presses, so this can be challenging. Another option might be to use redo and undo to add or subtract parts

The others are audio - the guitar and vocals inputs are both audio. All the looper tracks are audio too

The only track that is midi is the keyboard. All the others are audio - the inputs and loopers. The looper effect only works on audio tracks! Thanks for watching!

@@olivergearing thanks for replying..

Thanks for the comment, I need to do a follow up now I’ve got the upgrade!

Thanks for the feedback! It’s my one regret for this video

Such a powerful way to deal with this! Nice one!

Nice one I’ll give this a try

Yes, this is a really important point which doesn’t come across strongly enough in the video.

lol!

Definitely, it is really important. According to her CZcams page her name rhymes with Snow, for anyone not sure.

Thanks for watching - does seem a bit random that you were recommended! Do you even like live-looping?

Im not so concerned with 'cheating' as bullsh*tting and misrepresenting. If this person doesnt pretend to do this all themselves live then idc.

@@thoughtlesskills ...what?

Great point!

I love cover bands!

LOL! Lots of people who feel that unless you are playing everything absolutely live then it doesn’t count!

Good point! Kudos to you too mate

No idea how that is relevant at all

Thank you for your sub and your kind comment! System of a Down are a departure from Elise, but still awesome!

And this comment is perfect thanks for saving me some typing!

This is a really great post, really balanced. I think she is playing live, perhaps my video was a little too strong on the pre-recording theory, but thank you for sharing your perspective in a kind, honest way

@@olivergearing Thnx! I loved the video and thought you laid the theory out perfectly. I found your thoughts very interesting!

@@olivergearing The issue really boils down to what the claim is. e.g a magician's premise is that he's tricking you but within certain parameters. If you learn he just edited camera footage we feel cheated because we knew magicians are 'fake' they aren't really magic, but they are fake within a unwritten but nevertheless agreed set of parameters for what a magician is allowed to do to trick us - and editing camera footage, or getting a 'stooge' to play along don't fit into those rules. Similarly if Dave Lee Roth and EVH are running around on a stage surrounded by pretty girls in a colourful and energetic MTV video of course it's ok they aren't really playing their instruments - but I still expect it to be Eddie Van Halen playing on the record and, if I purchase a ticket to go to a music festival where Van Halen are playing I absolutely expect the musicians on stage to be playing their instruments and singing live. On youtube, I guess you could therefore argue that it's not live, but here's the premise, if I'm creating a video that is more or less saying "Hey girls check out my guitar chops" If I'm not actually playing then that seems disingenuous and I can understand why people would consider that fake. Similarly for anyone who is purporting to be creating music on the fly using various midi controllers and maybe singing too - I'd expect that performance to be live - and if it isn't then they should make that very clear, especially if the video appears to show them in a way that suggests they are creating the music as we watch it. Now a few youtube guitar players and other musicians end up where they do a recorded performance of the music when the cameras aren't rolling and they can be relaxed and whatever else, and maybe do a bunch of takes trying to get a perfect one - and then they film themselves in a more sort of audience friendly way and they're playing rather than miming, but the playing we hear is an earlier studio take - and obviously if there's any difference between what we're hearing and what they appear to play then people will spot this. Some will be ok with the knowledge about how the realities of filming vs recording work, and others will put it straight into the 'fake' category and feel cheated by that performer. The bottom line I guess is that there are no actual rules, each performer has to decide what they are comfortable with doing and with how honest they are with their audience about what they are doing. Equally each audience member together (or in comment sections collectively) can decide for themselves how they feel about what a performer is doing or appears to be doing, But, certainly youtube artists need to realise that if they are not playing and recording themselves live and they aren't completely open about how their content is created that a section of their audience is going to have an opinion about that which they are likely to be very vocal about expressing. Particularly in the case where a performer has said (or strongly implied) they do one thing but they actually are doing another - i.e if you BS your audience they are far more likely to feel cheated if they discover you lied - with the potential for a backlash if they had formed an idea that what they thought you were doing required significantly more skill, talent or whatever than what it actually does. e.g If I create videos where it appears I'm playing lots of fast, clean notes on the guitar a lot of people would get upset if they discovered there were any kind of editing techniques, speeded up video, altered audio etc to make my supposed "live" performance better than my live guitar playing actually sounds - and you can see this has been the case on youtube and instagram etc. OTOH once the notion a guitar player can 'fake' their performance exists there's also a section of any audience on youtube who are immediately cynical and suspicious that any skilled performance has been faked. This is no different to the idea that cycle racing, because in the past has had so many riders using performance enhancing drugs now many of the audience think every successful rider is cheating - they've kind of soured the milk for everyone else - whether they cheat or not.

@@michael1 great comment, thank you for your comprehensive and nuanced take! I like the analogy of the magicians - we are ok with the ‘pretend magic’ it just happens to be very skilful! For what it is worth, I think Elise is live, but does a good job on the post production of the audio. Thanks again

Thank you! I appreciate the support - wasn’t sure how this video would go down!!

Thank you! Appreciate the comment and support!!

Thank you - great suggestion. I haven’t heard of that pedal so I’ll check it out!

Really pleased this has worked for you. The looper is such a great effect! I hope you gain many hours of joy from it!

I agree! One to learn from

The content is good - no music needed!

I normally font get too many issues with latency - I have a MacBook Pro from 2021, a behringer UMC 1820 interface, and it works really well.

Thank you very much! Hope the set up works for you!

@@olivergearing you didn't explain if these are all audio tracks on the setup they were already renamed i know the keyboard was midi but what were all the other tracks.

@@christopherfarrington9270 Just look at the video. Where a track says "Audio In", it's an audio track. Where the track says "Midi In" it's a midi track! So, they're all audio tracks except the "Keys In" track which is Midi.

For the last part - yes - the same note on the 2 banks is how I do it. You can only have one note per trigger action in Ableton. I’m not an expert on the latency issue, but I would presume it isn’t helping the latency. Have you changed the buffer size and resolution in settings? Play around with these settings, maybe that will help?

@@olivergearing thanks for your prompt reply. I took the Motu Ultralite AVB out of my studio and the latency is so much better, although to get it really tight I need to set the looper inputs to the line in, rather than channel “guitar in” which means I can’t do the RC20 channel. I really like the functionality of the looper but it has one big disadvantage compared to recording loops in clips: I often use Live slaved to a live drummer so we can play as a band and throw loops in that are in time with us, rather than following a click. When the tempo changes it changes the pitch of loops in looper, while loops recorded into clips stay in pitch.

@@bakabeyond there are settings on the looper that will make it sync to your Ableton tempo, so it would be worth playing around with these to see if that helps your live set up!

There could be a number of reasons for that. The most likely I think are the monitor settings - play around with these

The automation lanes are a good option, and I sometimes combine the 2 approaches. The main drawback for automation is that you can only see 1 automated parameter at once, whereas with a MIDI clip, all the notes are there