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Lets just break everything. Who needs a stable kernel?

The Internet Archive may disappear, but piracy is here to stay so long as there are poor people! I'm not a Communist, but one day copyright will be made REASONABLE or it will disappear too.

I'm assuming the worst and archiving all my pre-2000 toys from M$ and Borland, compilers and the like. I honestly believe Copyright should be 25 years then GTFO.

I feel like the Internet Archive is what the Library of Congress should be. While they preserve a lot of things, they mostly hide it away in their vaults or require a physical presence to make use of the materials. I know, copyright law, but there should be some allowances made for the LoC. I don't know if they preserve websites either, and that's one of the most important things that the IA does which I also use them for. Although, I personally feel like our copyright law should go back to being 14 years. If that was the limit, then things would make more sense and the IA could distribute anything that was 14 years and older without any worry. For that matter, so could the LoC.

the rainbow cult must be stopped

They need some exception for archiving, even if it's not visible today. No rewriting history should be allowed.

It should be completely legal to do a one-to-one without permission.

France is a 3rd world country like USA, what you expect from it, freedom of speech? Privacy? Look how hateful and communist their currently "elected" party is, it should answer everything. So, if you're a sane person, stay away from 3rd world ghettos like USA, Germany, France, Russia, China, Canada, North Koreea, Australia, Italy etc.

Welp. Here's where i continue getting what i can before it goes dark.

I just need a little food. LoL

If I get sued nobody cares. If you get sued, I don't care. That's just the way it is 😁

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We know the criminal three letter agencies embed agents provocateur into organizations and groups they don't like, to undermine them. This is actually official policy, you can find published books where they outline the methodology, printed by the Federal government. Could this be an example thereof? A bizarre, self-defeating policy in 2020, and then the worst choice of defenses and appeals? Think of how all the criminal ex-feds were embedded in Twitter. Maybe here, they got themselves hired as insane "lawyers".

Why hasnt anyone tried to develop a file format that would prevent the books from being downloaded or straight copied? Copying them by hand would be akin to memorizing a paragraph at a library then transcribing it at home. There are websites that prevent the visitor from copying text on them, this would be similar. I dont see why this wouldn't solve the issue they're having.

So, it seems like the copyright law should be modified to the digital Age we're living in. Apparently they do apply the copyright law from the pre-digital Age to the current Internet. This has to change. The Internet Archive is a website for archival purposes. All they do is to make a digital copy of the content for archival purposes. Naturally they don't ask for permission to do so - as it wouldn't be always possible to do it - and it would be bothersome. And naturally they distribute the archived content - after the original content was long ago gone. The Internet Archive did scan/distribute the books w/o permission, that's true. But they simply couldn't afford to ask for permission for all those books, just because of the amount of those to scan. And of course they're (currently) not allowed to scan/distribute w/o permission - the copyright law is strict there. So we just need to adapt the copyright law. One of the simplest things we could do is to explicitly exclude archival websites from the copyright law. This would mean, the copyright law generally apply to anything protected by it - except that content is archived on the public Internet Archive resource. The public needs to have access to the archived content - in the worst case these kind of websites should be shielded by the US government.

Last gasp of old school publishing. The current order is falling and trying to take down everything with it. Soon everything will change. You can't stop technology

The law is wrong and this guy is a jack ass

intellectual property law is fundamentally broken. change my mind

Time to buy another nas and get to work.

You said it: It's like they (internet archive) are trying to take down themselves.

Big Book are evil book-burners. IA should move out of US/Western jurisdiction.

This is likely going to result in a lot of works being lost to history because the Internet Archive wasn't just preserving books; they were also preserving websites via the Wayback Machine, software, and games. In many cases, the original copyright owner had become defunct. This will be a loss for humanity, no matter which side of the fence you sit on.

Sad behause I not have money and servers to save it...

3rd world countries (like USA) will destroy everything for as long as it has the ability to provide basic human rights like the right of information - reason for which they targeted the internet archive. 3rd world countries doing corruption, like always.

It's seems there is a political and economic agenda to shut it down... So much for America freedom..

There's something very similar happening in Wikimedia vs Indian courts case. Wikimedia wants the "freedom" to push non-objective far-left propaganda disguised as objective truth and malign, do reputation harm to journalists and news organizations and whoever they deem as "untouchables" in the far-left caste system, with zero accountability. They're not a platform like twitter where both sides on an issue can have the right to have their say, so the same argument for Twitter and other social media platforms doesn't apply here. It's not protected free speech. Wikimedia has an opaque permanent bureaucratic class of moderators with zero diversity in political viewpoints, which curates the content and pushes just one viewpoint in their articles, going as far as erasing all references to counter-views so that a layperson coming across their top-of-search-results pages reads propaganda as fact and assumes it's true due to wikipedia's reputation. Indian courts are saying you can't do that, and have outlined consequences. And suddenly we have "war on free speech" happening, and all the open source etc folks who have nothing to do with wikipedia's far-left bias are getting pulled into escalating this "war" that wikimedia has brought about.

This has wide reaching consequences, right down to physical libraries and every other archiving service. The large conglomerates will ensure that all information, ideas and knowledge will be placed behind expensive paywalls in the same manner as peer reviewed papers are and society will be the worse for it. They want full and absolute control of all of that for their own profit, power and control. They detest loaning, renting and second hand sales because it deprives them of a royalty from a purchase. They do not want you renting a book, they want you to buy it. If the media is out of print, they want you to go without.

If libraries didn't exist yet they sure would be illegal to create nowadays

A foot note in the soon forgotten origin of the ministry of truth.

Internet Archive is not stupid. They are doing all this intentionally and it's just classic mind games done primarily by people associated with one very specific political movement. They actually are anti-property (here, at least digitally so) and primarily want to use their site as a store of pirated content. The reason they bundle it all up with other "good" stuff like the web archival, or storing of old and abandoned content is so that they can fall back and use those as the "but but for good of society" argument and earn some sympathy. Again, they are not stupid. This is intentional. They know what they are doing.

Who could have expected, relying on one entity to archive things is dumb. The webarchive will be scrapped too it was never going to be "permanent"

I have a very simple solution to all these problems: abolish copyright completely, abolish patents, abolish trademark law These rights have been abused several times by both sides. From the side of the open source developers in order to obtain internal documents. Abuse by companies. And then the third possibility: companies that meant well, did it wrong, were then sued and stopped development. But this would also mean that companies would be allowed to use any available software without having to comply with the licenses, and vice versa.

why didn't they just stick to archiving web-pages which was the core feature? there would have been a proper fair-use case for that. most people don't even know of the other features that're takinfg them down.

Piracy is not theft. When you are copying a program, the author still has its original copy, therefore it's not a theft. A theft is taking something from someone without permission. Is making a copy of your neighbour's picture theft? No.

should've just invested in running a cpu seeding torrents

tbh it sounds like a support group of alimony-"deserving" women wrote that legal appeal.

it's time to pirate everything.

I'm in favor of the Internet Archive, but it's very clear it's been horribly mismanaged.

Linux developers - especially those kernel gatekeepers - are very hostile and toxic.

"Folks" is a huge red flag.

Clearly the left aren't happy with just desecrating and destroying old monuments and other art that make up our history, they must ensure that music, books etc are destroyed too.!?

Like getting arrested for theft for using a cloning ray at Walmart

Love how the Internet Archive is getting destroyed over copyright while the entire tech space is going apeshit over genAI, making the case that the same level of infringement is a core requirement of their business and thus fair use

Agents of the devil (Zionists) once again made our world a bit worse than it was

localized censored subscripson based libraries where all controversial is gone will replace archive

Copyright was originally supposed to be an incentive, not a right perse in the United States as per Federalist Paper 43. When we started viewing it as a right, as a way to 'protect' what we consider our 'intellectual property', things went off the rails very quickly. If a copyright is merely an incentive and not something that protects property rights, then a MUCH shorter duration would make more sense than what we have now. It wouldn't completely solve the IA's problem, but...

I don't know what's more ridiculous, internet archive defense or the numbers pulled out on the lawsuit. I mean, internet archive is not responsable of sonny losing half a billion dollars. The number just can't be that big.

When the NSA, hell even Meta, Google and Apple archives all of our details and sells them noone bats an eye. When Internet Archive, archives things the justice system looses their mind.

Honestly based on the behavior of those lgbt inclusivity activists it's really difficult not to hate them. I was on a discord server of a certain linux distro and after realizing that half of the active chatters were trans and those topics were brought up like every other day i just had to leave the server.