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It could be an issue with the motor itself, something preventing the foot section from moving downward, the central "brain" of your base unit, or maybe even the remote control. Best to contact the customer service number for your adjustable bed for their best suggestions of what to check.

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We enjoy Rob's stories as well. And we'll be happy to help you find the perfect mattress whenever you're in need.

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It's an older list, but here are some CPSC-accredited testing labs: bedtimesmagazine.com/2014/09/working-with-testing-laboratories/ .

This model is now called the Rize Contemporary IV, and it is indeed available in a Twin Extra Long version: rizehome.com/collections/adjustable-bases/products/contemporary-iv-adjustable-bed?variant=40393833381934

The serial number is located 1) on the front of the owner's manual; 2) on the back of the remote control; and 3) on the underside of the base at the head or foot end of the metal frame. On some models, it may be necessary to raise the head or foot to see the sticker on the frame. Split King bases will have two serial numbers.

If you have a new remote for this base (and it is the proper remote), the first thing you need to do is affiliate the remote with the base (follow the instructions in the video to perform this: czcams.com/video/vNWKGC2EGB0/video.html ). Once the remote is affiliated with the base and you have confirmed the operation, you can then program it to for One-Touch operation, or change the Memory Positions (the 2 programming procedures that would result in the massage motors chirping and the lights on the remote going on that you mentioned). If you're not able to program the remote for these features, off the top of my head I would think that you may not be properly following the instructions in the video and holding the appropriate buttons for the correct amount of time, the batteries in your remote might not be fully powered, or you may have an incorrect remote for this base (you say it is a new remote). Or, perhaps you have a newer version of this base and the instructions have changed from when I made this video. You can find user guides and videos for specific bases (you'll need your base serial number) on the Leggett and Platt website here: support.lpadjustablebeds.com/user-guide-video Those are my best guesses with the limited information you've provided. I hope that helps.

@@BeducationMattress I have done everything in the video but the blue lights do not flash and no chirp. Some functions do not work and the head and foot do not go flat.

If you have the Leggett and Platt Simplicity 3.0 base and you've properly followed all of the instructions to reaffiliate the remote and things still don't work, then you have another issue. Try contacting Leggett and Platt Customer Service support.lpadjustablebeds.com/warranty-services , and they can better walk you through troubleshooting.

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Density is the key metric when looking at the durability/quality of a flexible polyurethane foam, so if you gleaned that bit of information, then you're ahead of most consumers. Good for you!

Pure Talalay Bliss is no longer in business. Talalay Global still makes toppers, although the blend may not be the same as the Active Fusion used in some of the older PTB toppers.

@@BeducationMattress thank you for answering. That’s a shame. What other brand would you recommend for toppers and pillows?

Is pure talaly bliss known as “Vivant” now?

With Talalay latex, it's not so much the brand, but the producer of the Talalay latex foam. I personally wouldn't have an issue with Talalay latex from either Vita Talalay or Talalay Global. Those would be two of the more common suppliers of Talalay latex to the USA market.

Pure Talalay Bliss as a brand is gone (you can read yourself to sleep if you want to go through the most recent bankruptcy documents of Talalay Global). Artilat bought Talalay Global from bankruptcy I believe in 2020. There were a few licensees who agreed to produce the PLB line, such as Eclipse did for a bit (here's an old article about that bedtimesmagazine.com/2020/11/eclipse-natural-dreams-pure-talalay/ ), I think before the sale to Artilat. There were other mattress licensees who chose to make all-latex mattresses using specs similar to the old PTB line, as well. I don't know if Pleasant Mattress (producer of Vivant) had such an agreement to make PTB beds, or just made some models that mimicked the specs.

I'm sorry that you're having a difficult time in Australia finding a retailer who is transparent about componentry. A few years back I did a bit of a deep dive for someone in Australia, and I was able to find some retailers who were quite transparent about their products, but I no longer have those notes. So don't give up looking. I would say that IFD/ILD is more of a comfort specification and not something that necessarily relates to quality and durability, and the gauge of steel of the spring unit is just one of the 8 or so descriptors of an innerspring that gives you a bit of information about it (but the spring unit usually isn't the weak link within a mattress). The mattress shopping tutorial you mentioned on the TMU website is a good reference for providing more specifics as to what you should focus upon, and I'd encourage you to read through that and keep it as a reference.

I'm glad that things worked out for you.

I'm not a trained technician with adjustable bed bases, so I'd recommend you address your concerns to the customer service number contained in your adjustable bed manual, as those technicians are schooled in what may be causing your issue of the motor in your base unit running until it goes flat. There are also companies who specialize in replacement parts for adjustable beds (a quick online search will provide you with quite a few choices), and they may be able to help troubleshoot your base.

The range of motion required, area allowed for placement and articulation, and force required would be a few of the primary concerns.

@@BeducationMattress fascinating. Thank you for taking the time to educate people :)

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The term "relatively nontoxic" isn't an objective standard for which an item can be tested (although most people I think would get the gist of what you're meaning), so standards like CertiPUR-US do have some specific things for which they test (which I think most people would agree are good things to evaluate). If the polyurethane FOAMS used in a mattress are CertiPUR-US certified, it means that they are: -made without PBDEs -made without heavy metals -made without formaldehyde -made without phthalates regulated by CPSC -low VOC certified (< .5 ppm) -made without ozone depleters certipur.us/ has more complete details on the testing process and actual requirements for foams to meet these standards.

@@BeducationMattress thank you. I looked up Centi-Pur's list of mattress manufacturers and Linenspa, the bed I just purchased, had some sort of vague notation that didn't seem to ensure they were Centi-pur certified currently. I'm ok so far, no symptoms. Thank you for the detailed answer

The CertiPUR-US website states for Linenspa: "This company is on record as using CertiPUR-US® certified foam, but updated directory listing information is currently unavailable." So, they simply haven't updated some of their company category information with CertiPUR-US, which needs to be done on a yearly basis.

@@BeducationMattress I feel better now. I had gotten a Zinus innerspeing mattress and got the worst low back pain, so got the Linenspa hybrid my first memory foam.

That's great if the new mattress is working better for you. Unfortunately, there's no one mattress or material that's guaranteed to relieve low back issues. We can only evaluate products based upon the quality of their componentry to help determine/rank for an expected consistent comfort life. I'm happy you feel better now.

I'm pretty sure all of my videos are still posted online, although some may have been re-shot. The adjustable bed base videos are specific to the actual adjustable bed base model and not the remote, as instructions vary by model, so if you know the model of your adjustable bed base you can search the channel based upon that. The thumbnail photo may have been changed over the years, so that may not be the best way to search.

Maybe go back and watch the video again to become more clear as to what was really being discussed. The video is explaining some of the big mistakes that people make when looking for a mattress, and how this customer had absolutely no interest in learning about what things to consider when making a quality purchase. Of course a salesperson has the job of attempting to extract the actual needs/wants of the consumer, and then finding something that has the appropriate componentry to meet those needs.

No, this is not the type of a frame to go around the perimeter of an adjustable bed base. I'm not too sure why you'd want to do that, as this frame is used to support a box spring as well as a mattress, and as such there would be no use for it if somehow you'd place it under an adjustable bed base, as adjustable beds don't use a box spring. Maybe you're thinking of a frame that would connect to both a headboard and a footboard (what is commonly called a rail system), and many people do choose to place their adjustable bed bases within the perimeter of a bed set (headboard, footboard and rails to connect them). The only other thing that I can think of is that maybe you're considering attaching a headboard to this frame, giving your adjustable bed base the look of having a headboard. But if this is the case, it won't work well, as you need the weight of the box spring and mattress placed upon the bed frame to stabilize things. So, COULD you place this bed frame underneath an adjustable bed base? Quite possibly, depending upon the location of the legs of your adjustable bed base and how much they are recessed from the side edges. Another thing to consider, depending upon the height up your adjustable bed base legs, is there could be a possibility of the frame interfering with the articulation of the adjustable bed base. But most of all, I'm curious as to why you're considering such a move. Maybe you're considering something unique that I've never run across, and if so, knowing what that might be I can be more accurate and specific in my reply.

Check with Rize Home for spare parts: rizehome.com/pages/non-warranty-part-orders

I'm glad the video helped you to get her adjustable bed base working again!

You can first contact RizeHome and see if they have availability of this part: rizehome.com/pages/non-warranty-part-orders . If they don't have the remote, you may wish to contact an aftermarket adjustable bed parts company, such as GenesisWarranty genesiswarranty.com/adjustable-bed-parts.html . You can also sometimes find people selling these parts online at places such as amazon or ebay.

If the cubes are floating up, that means that air is moving through the foam beneath the cubes (the fan is located beneath the foam piece that is beneath the cubes) to push the foam cubes up (hence, the foam has better airflow properties). If the foam cubes don't move, that means that the piece of foam beneath the cubes doesn't flow air very well. I don't know the mass of the foam cubes - they're very light pieces of polyurethane foam. The demonstration shows that in general, latex foam rubber flows air better than visco-elastic memory foam.

@@BeducationMattress thank you

You're welcome.

Glad you liked the video.

I'm glad the video helped you program your remote control.

Glad it was helpful!

Most adjustable bed bases are able to fit within the perimeter of a headboard/footboard bed set. You'd have to measure the inside dimensions of the bed set in question, and compare that to your adjustable bed base. Adjustable bed bases tend to be very similar in size to the foundation / box spring they replace.

Yes!! I've been waiting for someone to catch that. Well done, my friend!

You've given no specific context as to how the FS appears on the label, the brand name, or the model name, so I have no idea what that abbreviation might represent. Sometimes manufacturers will abbreviate parts of the title of a mattress name on the law label, as they are limited in the number of characters they may use. For example, they might use ET for Eurotop, PT for Pillowtop, or any other unlimited number of abbreviations, some of which may only make sense to them internally in their record keeping. Maybe your mattress is part of a Four Seasons line (there are a few manufacturers who make lines labelled as such) and the FS is an abbreviation for that. Your question would be best addressed to the retailer where you purchased your mattress - they should be more familiar with that.

@@BeducationMattress Pretty sure it is Floor Sample.

It's a possibility. Again, your retailer would be best suited to give an accurate answer to your question. Usually, if an item is ordered specifically as a floor sample, it is usually noted on the label on the plastic bag and/or any inventory control label tagged to the mattress - quite often stamped or hand written (every factory has different protocols). It's not usually part of the actual name on the law label, as this could potentially be problematic, appearing as a different mattress than the actual model it represents, possibly requiring proof of a separate burn test for that specifically named mattress. If you get a mattress from a brick and mortar location and it has an inventory tag that is labelled as a floor sample, it doesn't necessarily mean that it was indeed used as a floor model. Some retailers will put out a backstock item as a floor model if there's an empty spot on their floor and they're still waiting for an item that they specifically ordered as a floor sample. I've done this in the past at my store. And then the mattress ordered in as a floor model is simply sold off as backstock, as it's generally no different than the normal backstock item (sometimes it has extra embroidery on it to look nicer as a display piece). But this is all speculation on my part - I wasn't part of your transaction and can't speak for your retailer, and I don't generally like to deal in hypotheticals, as I don't find them to be particularly productive. And a reputable retailer wouldn't be substituting an actually used floor model mattress if a customer ordered a brand-new item, as mattresses used as floor models are often discounted because of the wear and tear on them, and they quite often don't come with a manufacturer's warranty.

Your question is more appropriately something you should direct toward a health care professional. Maybe you have a sensitivity to something in the mattress, maybe not. Only a trained health care professional will be able to help you make that determination (oddly enough, your symptoms seem to be quite consistent with something else that seems to be going around these days: health-study.joinzoe.com/post/the-20-symptoms-of-covid-19-to-watch-out-for?_ga=2.261802573.1725488168.1670246732-1626835851.1651670506 .) As for the mattress being made with toxic materials, those wouldn't tend to be materials that are classified as toxic - see here: www.ecfr.gov/current/title-16/chapter-II/subchapter-C/part-1500 and here: www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/CFR-2010-title16-vol2/pdf/CFR-2010-title16-vol2-sec1500-135.pdf . Hopefully you'll feel better soon!

I unfortunately can't offer you any help regarding cognition. I only present information regarding mattresses, componentry, and sleep.

"Quality" is a quite subjective and non-specific term, often described as the ability of a product to perform the task expected of it. And expectations will of course vary by the individual. Most flexible polyurethane foam companies produce a myriad of foams for many different purposes and durabilities, with some being proprietary blends at the request of specific clients, and some will have unique foams of their own creation with specific properties and characteristics. As a layperson, you'll never expect to find a complete listing of all of the products that foam pourers produce. If you were a manufacturer of a product requiring a specific type of foam, at that point you'd be able to get a better idea of the offerings of a specific company if you were meeting with them about a potential supplier relationship. Generally, the easiest way most consumers rate the "quality" of a foam is by learning the density of that foam, with higher density flexible polyurethane foams generally having a better durability than their lower density counterparts.

Your question is much too broad for any sort of a meaningful reply, as these of course could be thousands of "conditions" one could create.

For overall durability, it is important to look at the complete innerspring unit as a whole, versus the individual spring. But when evaluating an individual spring, there are more things to consider than gauge of wire. Generally, the lower the pitch (more turns) within a spring, the more wire the spring will use and the more durable and softer it will be. Increasing the wire thickness (decreasing the gauge) will generally result in a stiffer spring and more durability when comparing two springs using the same design but only changing wire thickness. A smaller spring mean diameter generally results in a stiffer spring. Taller springs with the same pitch tend to be a bit softer. There are some innerspring units where the manufacturer specializes in creating a very durable plush comfort through unique geometry and gauge of steel, off the top of my head, such as the Cortec from Harrison Spinks and the Flexecore from HSM, necessitating the use of less foam to achieve comfort.

There's a button on the reverse side of the remote control that turns the under bed light off and on. Simply press that. It's explained in detail in the video here: czcams.com/video/HpWdjASqq3c/video.html .

No, I do not. I'm not familiar with that model, as Therapedic licensees produce lines that vary throughout the country. The most important thing for you to do would be to learn and discover about the componentry used within the mattress, most importantly the quality (density) of the polyurethane foam comfort materials being used. This will help you to determine if this will be a more durable mattress of higher quality, or not.

@@BeducationMattress hi. Yes, I've been trying for some time to learn abt the specifications. It's difficult, as the internet in general is less helpful when it comes to mattress specs. I'm seeking a very firm therapedic innerspring mattress with as little amount of foam on top as possible. I'm in the NY city area. Can you recommend any models? I've been searching for a yr for a good, non hybrid innerspring mattress. They are hard to find. I deeply appreciate your writing me back.

The retailer you're visiting should be able to provide you the specifications of the product. At the very least, you need the quality specifications, which for the foams would be the density. If they are unable or unwilling to provide you that information, then find another retailer. I'm sorry, but I don't make specific model recommendations. The mattress in this video where you're commenting would be an example of something using higher quality materials.

First off - Always learn about a company's return or exchange program (if it has one) and fully understand it BEFORE you make a purchase - don't assume. Your paperwork should have more complete details about this, and I'm sure the store itself could clarify for you. If you get a mattress home (and you're stating mattress and not a set, so I'm assuming you purchased the mattress alone without a foundation), and it feel drastically different from the showroom model, the first thing to check would be the law tag to make sure that you were delivered the correct product. Mistakes, while rare, can certainly happen. Also, check to make sure that the floor model in the store is the actual representation of what was being delivered, and that it isn't a previous generation model and that there have been running changes in product design since it was put out. Most stores are good about keeping their floor models current. As you're complaining that both mattresses are sinking too much, my first thought would be to look at what you're placing the mattresses upon as being incorrect and unsupportive. If you're using an older foundation, checking that it is rigid, flat and firm would be the first thing I'd do. Next, if you're using a metal bed frame or a bed set, make sure that there is adequate support underneath, especially in the center, and that the support being used is reinforced so that it doesn't allow for anything to sag. It would be odd that both of the mattresses you received were incorrect, and as you're complaining about the same sinking phenomenon about both mattresses, my mind would go right away to what was under the mattresses as being the culprit and a place to start investigating. You could place the mattress directly upon the floor and see if it feels more supportive. If it does, then focus upon your existing frame and/or foundation as being the issue. As for the store not offering a refund, if that's their policy (which is a common policy for something that is a personal item like a mattress) and it's what you agreed to when you made your initial purchase, a recourse would be to speak with the store manager to see if they might make an exception for you or could come to your home to investigate. One way in which you might be able to get a refund would be if the store was shown to not have held up their end of the agreement by delivering an incorrect product, or that something they delivered was defective. Those would be my thoughts with the very limited information I have. Hopefully that's helpful.

@@BeducationMattress thanks for the reply! I will definitely ask about refund policy in the future. He never mentioned that I couldn’t return it so I assume the 30 days was a trial. All stores that I visited prior to this one had return policies that were over 100 days, so lesson learned. As for the foundation, I bought the foundation along with the mattress so it’s new. I checked the law tag and the date that it was manufactured was 1/9/23 and it got delivered 1/11/23. It was sewn over a yellow tag that I can’t read too well. Something about it not being flame resistant. Anyway, thanks for the reply!

Regarding refund/return policies, if that's something which is very important in your decision making process, you'll want to get exact details before making a purchase. Don't assume. If the foundation is new with the mattress set, you need to make sure that whatever frame you're using has an appropriately reinforced center support in the middle. A frame without appropriate center support reinforcement will cause center sag in a mattress. As for law tags, you need to read exactly what they say. The normal law tag on a mattress will be white. I'm not sure why there would be a separate law tag saying that the item ISN'T flame resistant (FR), as mattresses need to pass 16 CFR Part 1632 and 1633 FR standards, unless you've made specific arrangements with the manufacturer and provided appropriate medical notes allowing them to make a mattress specifically for you without FR material. Usually the tag states that the mattress DOES comply with all FR regulations. A yellow tag, in addition to the normal white law tag, at least where I'm at in Michigan, usually denotes a product using second hand materials. It may be different in your area - so check that out. Take the time to read exactly what is on each law tag instead of guessing what it might say. If you're buying something from a store that sells remanufactured mattresses with used materials, then this could be an explanation for the difference in comfort. But you've not made any mention of this.

I'd stay away from "opinions" and instead focus on facts and any certifications that the specific pieces of foam you're comparing might have met. For example, most latex foam rubber (synthetic, natural, or blended) would be able to pass a common worldwide "safety standard" such OEKO-TEX 100 Class I. There are also flexible polyurethane foams manufactured that are OEKO-TEX certified, but at various Product Class levels. There are other certifications out there in the industry, with some pertaining to specific componentry within a mattress and others pertaining to a finished product, and they test for different things - it's important to learn about the specifics of any certification you might be considering and if it actually tests for items that are specific to your personal concerns. You can learn what OEKO-TEX is about and what it tests for by visiting their website here: www.oeko-tex.com/en/our-standards/oeko-tex-standard-100 . Many OEKO-TEX suppliers are listed here: www.oeko-tex.com/en/buying-guide . It's important to know the definition of off-gassing and VOCs. There's a lot of good information about this on the EPA website: search.epa.gov/epasearch/?querytext=voc&areaname=&areacontacts=&areasearchurl=&typeofsearch=epa&result_template=#/

@@BeducationMattress Thank you so much, I’ll look into it! :)

Sounds good!

Density is mass per unit volume (sometimes I slip up and say it is weight, but it technically isn't). Commonly expressed in USA in pounds per cubic foot (I know, a pound isn't a unit of mass, but that's how it's discussed here.). In Europe, more commonly expressed in kg per meter cubed.

Assuming you have the Leggett and Platt Simplicity 3.0 (as you responded to a video about that particular item), follow the troubleshooting guide in your manual (page 15) lpadjustablebeds.com/document/load/simplicity-3pt0-owners-manual.pdf . If you can't solve the problem using that guide, contact Leggett and Platt Customer Service for more detailed help at 800-825-5233 or email them from their website lpadjustablebeds.com/other-products .

In order to properly analyze the quality of any mattress, you first need to know detailed information of the componentry comprising the product. Specifically, you'd want to find out the density of the foams used within the mattress, as the density is the main/simplest way of determining the durability of the comfort of the mattress. Unfortunately, Aireloom (like many mattress brands) doesn't tend to be too forthcoming with the density specifications of their products, and neither are most of the retailers carrying their mattresses (although there are a few here and there who do post densities). As a consumer, there's no way you can make an educated mattress purchase decision without such information, and I'd advise that you procure this information from your local retailer before making any buying decision, as it's the only way you can make an accurate choice for the quality/durability/appropriateness of a mattress to make sure it meets your expectations. I haven't performed a deep dive on the current Coppertech Silver line, so I'm sorry that I can't provide any accurate details. There's a good Mattress Shopping Tutorial that covers what to look for in any mattress on The Mattress Underground site that can be quite helpful: themattressunderground.com/our-articles/mattress-shopping-tutorial .

If you have a Leggett and Platt adjustable bed (I'm assuming you do, as you've responded to a video for that brand), their manuals are posted online here: lpadjustablebeds.com/adjustable-bed-base-manuals

Unfortunately, there's no way that I could make any sort of educated or accurate suggestion for a mattress for you via the internet with the tens of thousands of different mattresses available in the marketplace. It's more about finding componentry that's appropriate. For motion isolation, pocketed spring units can be a good choice, and comfort materials that include higher density memory foam and higher density (but not too hard) polyurethane foam can also be assistive. A bed frame that is very solid, or even better a platform bed base, will also assist greatly in minimizing motion transfer. Side sleepers tend to prefer something that has a surface comfort that contours a bit for the shoulders and the hips/waist, and back sleepers tend to desire a surface comfort that allows for some contouring of the seat/low back area. From a sleep ergonomic perspective, you want to find something that has "just enough" plushness to do the job (the biggest mistake people make is choosing something too soft). Learn about the componentry within the mattress, and for durability look for comfort layers using higher density polyurethane foams (> 1.5# would be a good place to start), and mattresses that are constructed well. Most pocketed spring units these days provide some sort of extra edge reinforcement, usually with a few rows of springs featuring different geometry along the edges that help to minimize product roll-off. These edge reinforcement systems are not meant to make the side of the mattress perform like a chair, but instead they help to maximize the overall useable sleep surface.

I'm not sure how I would actually do that.

Just because a mattress has a build date that quite a bit earlier than you purchase date doesn't necessarily mean that it is a used product. Some stores/chains carry a very large inventory, and if the same model has been produced for a few years, it's quite possible that they have had a particular item in stock for a while, especially if it wasn't a big seller. Other stores simply might not be good at rotating their inventory. So it could be one of those things. But an older build date by itself isn't evidence of a mattress being used. The first ting to do would be to politely bring your concern to the attention of the store manager and ask them for an explanation (which may be in line with exactly what I previously described). But short of any compelling evidence (such as stains, indications of wear or previous use, odors, etc.) or any of the other examples I mentioned in my video, it would be difficult to prove that the item was used.

Yes, they're still manufactured - just not in large numbers. Torsion flexing systems replaced traditional coil box spring by and large maybe 4 decades or so ago, as they maintain a flatter profile, are lighter, and more affordable to produce. Rigid foundations replaced the torsion systems mostly a few decades ago, as they keep an even flatter profile and are even more affordable to produce. True coil box springs are still produced, but you'll usually have to search for a more specialized mattress manufacturer (usually something a bit more bespoke). Off the top of my head, Leggett and Platt has a coil box spring line that they produce for mattress manufacturers called the WebLok. You may want to do a search for that.

For a Leggett and Platt product, try here: lpadjustablebeds.com/customer-service .

You'd need information on the brand and model of your adjustable bed base. This can be found in your owner's manual, or often by looking at information that may be tagged on the underside of your adjustable bed base. After acquiring that information, you'd want to contact a company that specializes in adjustable bed replacement parts, such as genesiswarranty.com/index.html . A place like this would be more able to assist you with finding a new remote.

@@BeducationMattress thank you SOOO much for your time, kindness and guidance! This is very helpful! I wish you all the best and am glad i found your CZcams and subscribed!💜💜💜

You're welcome.

Minimum Advertised Pricing arrangements are common among mattress manufacturers. Their rationale is that such policies "protect brand integrity". Regarding your other posts, I've deleted them, as you included some personal contact information that shouldn't be presented in a public forum. And to answer your question from those deleted posts, I'm sorry, but I'm not available for detailed personal mattress consultations.

I can't speak for every model produced by every Therapedic licensee and what specific FR barrier is used, but the vast majority would be using a typical nonwoven inherent rayon silica fiber blend barrier.