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This Cheating Situation is Insane...
Dark and Darker is a fantasy dungeon delving MMORPG, with a focus on looting to gear up and PVP.
Discord: discord.gg/Cjs5y4nF77
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LICH FARMING
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Dark and Darker is a fantasy dungeon delving MMORPG, with a focus on looting to gear up and PVP. 0:00 Gear 4:50 Crypts 18:08 Inferno 21:50 Lich 26:31 Review Discord: discord.gg/Cjs5y4nF77
FARMING Inferno - But Only the Failed Runs
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Dark and Darker is a fantasy dungeon delving MMORPG, with a focus on looting to gear up and PVP. Discord: discord.gg/Cjs5y4nF77
329 Move Speed WITH WEAPON OUT Barbarian - Dark and Darker
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Dark and Darker is a fantasy dungeon delving MMORPG, with a focus on looting to gear up and PVP. Discord: discord.gg/Cjs5y4nF77
Dark and Darker REMOVED The Lobby? Here's Why
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Dark and Darker is a fantasy dungeon delving MMORPG, with a focus on looting to gear up and PVP. 0:00 Perks/Skills/Gear 1:22 Game Start 12:35 Selling loot Discord: discord.gg/Cjs5y4nF77
AI SELLS ITEMS FOR YOU NOW?! (Dark and Darker)
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Dark and Darker is a fantasy dungeon delving MMORPG, with a focus on looting to gear up and PVP. www.dndprices.com/ 0:00 How to check prices 2:20 AI sells for you 5:05 Perks/Skills/Gear 6:57 Crypts 19:58 Chinese Inferno 30:35 Selling Discord: discord.gg/Cjs5y4nF77
Ironmace Tried to KILL Ratting... Is It Still Viable?
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Dark and Darker is a fantasy dungeon delving MMORPG, with a focus on looting to gear up and PVP. Discord: discord.gg/Cjs5y4nF77
Hydra + Lifedrain = GOLD FARMING MACHINE?!
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Dark and Darker is a fantasy dungeon delving MMORPG, with a focus on looting to gear up and PVP. 0:00 Perks/skills/gear 1:59 Crypts 16:03 Inferno 28:34 Selling Discord: discord.gg/Cjs5y4nF77
I Killed a MEGA-JUICER in a 20k Kit (Barbarian Dark and Darker)
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Dark and Darker is a fantasy dungeon delving MMORPG, with a focus on looting to gear up and PVP. 0:00 Gear 0:51 Goblin Caves 1 12:24 Goblin Caves 2 20:17 Buying More Gear 21:50 Crypts (JUICY) 34:29 Selling Discord: discord.gg/Cjs5y4nF77
Is Luck Worth It? (YES)
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Dark and Darker is a fantasy dungeon delving MMORPG, with a focus on looting to gear up and PVP. 0:00 Set up 0:51 Game 1 15:42 Game 2 28:15 Inferno Discord: discord.gg/Cjs5y4nF77
Destroying CRAZY GEARED PLAYERS in a 700g KIT
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Dark and Darker is a fantasy dungeon delving MMORPG, with a focus on looting to gear up and PVP. In this video, I kit Barbarian for 600g and fight super geared players. 0:00 Buying Kit 3:04 Insane Game 14:19 Selling loot Discord: discord.gg/Cjs5y4nF77
How to GET RICH to Buy Artifacts (Dark and Darker)
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Dark and Darker is a fantasy dungeon delving MMORPG, with a focus on looting to gear up and PVP. 0:00 Skills/Perks/Gear 1:56 Crypts HR Ranger 14:28 Inferno HR Ranger 27:20 Selling 1 32:42 Warlock Skills/Perks/Gear 34:26 Crypts HR Warlock 46:25 Inferno HR Warlock 59:14 Selling 2 Discord: discord.gg/Cjs5y4nF77
The Most Geared Barbarian in Dark and Darker (100k Gold Kit)
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Dark and Darker is a fantasy dungeon delving MMORPG, with a focus on looting to gear up and PVP. In this video, I spend 100,000 gold on a kit with an artifact weapon - the Echo of Screams for Barbarian, along with froststone gear and frostlight gear. 0:00 Perks/Skills/Gear 6:21 Game 1 (Afraid) 16:39 Game 2 26:50 Game 3 (Confident) Discord: discord.gg/Cjs5y4nF77
THE BEST F2P MONEY MAKER (Beginner's Dark and Darker Guide)
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Dark and Darker is a fantasy dungeon delving MMORPG, with a focus on looting to gear up and PVP. 0:00 Perks/Skills 0:45 Crypts 14:06 Goblin Caves 27:15 Ice Cavern Discord: discord.gg/Cjs5y4nF77
How to Get Rich for New Players (Mining)
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Dark and Darker is a fantasy dungeon delving MMORPG, with a focus on looting to gear up and PVP. In this video I explain how to mine to make gold. Discord: discord.gg/Cjs5y4nF77
The Fastest Barbarian Build (330+ move speed)
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The Fastest Barbarian Build (330 move speed)
Froststone is Crazy Strong - Here's Why
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Froststone is Crazy Strong - Here's Why
Every Artifact Explained (Dark and Darker Guide)
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Every Artifact Explained (Dark and Darker Guide)
Farming Squire Gear to Get Rich (5,000 Gold Per Hour)
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Farming Squire Gear to Get Rich (5,000 Gold Per Hour)
How to Get Rich in Dark and Darker (Beginner Inferno Guide)
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How to Get Rich in Dark and Darker (Beginner Inferno Guide)
Wizard is Terrible (Because the Game is Broken...) Dark and Darker
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Wizard is Terrible (Because the Game is Broken...) Dark and Darker
I Found the BEST Money Maker (7,000+ Gold Per Hour - Dark and Darker)
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I Found the BEST Money Maker (7,000 Gold Per Hour - Dark and Darker)
Luck Does Nothing... (Dark and Darker Bug)
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Luck Does Nothing... (Dark and Darker Bug)
Dark and Darker Beginner's Guide to Barbarian
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Dark and Darker Beginner's Guide to Barbarian
UNSTOPPABLE WARLOCK KIT! (73% PDR/150 HP) - Dark and Darker Gameplay
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UNSTOPPABLE WARLOCK KIT! (73% PDR/150 HP) - Dark and Darker Gameplay
How to Build a Top Tier Kit in Dark and Darker (Advanced Guide)
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How to Build a Top Tier Kit in Dark and Darker (Advanced Guide)
Dark and Darker Progression Guide (For Intermediate Players)
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Dark and Darker Progression Guide (For Intermediate Players)
I Read Dark and Darker's Negative Reviews so You Don't Have To!
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I Read Dark and Darker's Negative Reviews so You Don't Have To!
Dark and Darker Beginner's Guide to Warlock
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Dark and Darker Beginner's Guide to Warlock
The Ice Wyvern Fight is ABSURDLY HARD?! Here's Why.
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The Ice Wyvern Fight is ABSURDLY HARD?! Here's Why.

Komentáře

  • @LilMeep_x
    @LilMeep_x Před 4 hodinami

    They ain't gonna ban him that's there boy

  • @dongmei3810
    @dongmei3810 Před 12 hodinami

    Banning gold buyers or sellers is not a solution. RWT isn’t the problem, the problem is cheaters. They should ban cheaters. One big problem of banning RWTers it’s extremely difficult to figure out who is legitimately RWTing and whose trading, splitting loot, or killing other players organically. At most only ban the Mule accounts that the gold sellers use to sell gold. Those accounts are more distinguishable as they have a repetitive account footprint with large sums of gold.

  • @brick-guard-entertainment3716

    this guy is brain dead

  • @l1wzEqsWwy
    @l1wzEqsWwy Před dnem

    all of this drama is causing a lot of people to be very toxic on both ends of the coin. Remember everyone involved are people too! cooler heads prevail! i thought the clips were weird but after watching his hand cam and stuff im certain hes not cheating. Todd saying that hitting that judgment was impossible, he is dead wrong. Try it yourself. Once the cast is judgment cast is mainly through (which you have enough time for on the wooden stairs) it will still go off. I genuinely challenge you to try that judgment before you jump to saying its clearly aimbot. I have played well over 1000 hours of cleric and its not uncommon to judgment through small gaps (biggest use case is the using it through the gaps in doors, very similar to the gap in the troll room wood). Either way its interesting to hear your take as well as everyone else take. If he every gets banned ill eat my words gladly but witch hunting is not the answer.

    • @SolomonDandD
      @SolomonDandD Před dnem

      Dude all he did was turn it off the moment he started streaming handcam. Are you blind enough not to notice that the twitchiness is gone? That's aimbot. And no - none of this "Cheaters are peopleeee tooooo!" Crap. He's ruining the game for personal monetary gain and should be treated as such.

    • @l1wzEqsWwy
      @l1wzEqsWwy Před 8 hodinami

      @@SolomonDandD Agree to disagree, I think his gameplay looks the same to me. We will see if he gets banned one day

  • @Capybara_Player_786

    how do you turn the recorde of matches? In option only could see death cam

  • @kmndra5831
    @kmndra5831 Před 2 dny

    Why dont u mention noskillbruv ? that was top1 3 seasons in a row then got banned for cheating

  • @NNT
    @NNT Před 2 dny

    hey just wanted to say, your moltov at the door thing really saved me like 10 mins ago in a game lol there was this rogue on ice abyss that tried to gank me at the top left of the map, i had to drop down and climb up the ladder on the other side of the room. he was basically guarding the only way out, and since you can't attack on a ladder, i would be at a disadvantage going back up it to the rogue. I remembered your vid and remembered that i had just 1 moltov on me, so I threw it across the room so it would (hopefully) land in between the rogue and the ladder, and it worked, and i got up the ladder and traded with him and came out ontop. thanks again for that tip

  • @dantedeloden
    @dantedeloden Před 2 dny

    Just pointing out those blue boots ur wearing are 20.5 movement speed incase no1 knows. A max roll of blue lightfoots are 20.5 lmao. Over 2/3 of 330 base unequip. Insane right?

    • @SolomonDandD
      @SolomonDandD Před 2 dny

      Yeah movespeed rolls are just plain broken.

    • @dantedeloden
      @dantedeloden Před 2 dny

      @@SolomonDandD just in gloves, cloak, and boots i count 26 movespeed. Not even factoring agility. So 326 before agility calcs LOL. And ur agility highly outweighs ur gears penalties. I find it funny. Ive ran alot of gearsets with aroubd 325 326 unequip. But god id be scared risking 100k in HR due to their player render lag and warpbacks.

  • @blipzero
    @blipzero Před 2 dny

    i will not say names but there is a party out there that is using a cheat that the monster will not attack them and thy will attack you and open all the doors will make a B line to you and fire at you and head shot you from across the map or send death after you and then tea bag you .

  • @blipzero
    @blipzero Před 2 dny

    no matter were i am thy find mw and take me out . i was taken out from arcoss the map.

  • @x8axe8x
    @x8axe8x Před 2 dny

    resource rings for team-looting the hoard, apparently

  • @kenayers9855
    @kenayers9855 Před 2 dny

    i cant tell if youre trolling or what when it comes to dimo lol

  • @lennartvater9948
    @lennartvater9948 Před 2 dny

    n1

  • @meltdown4126
    @meltdown4126 Před 2 dny

    Whenever I watch someone like Poshy playing trios there's like all 4 trios in one section on the map by min 4 lol, says a lot about society. Same with your Echo vid - like 6 or 7 players in one corner of GC when its anything but a point of interest on that map.

    • @SolomonDandD
      @SolomonDandD Před 2 dny

      Yeah... honestly it's really not even Ironmace's fault too. I haven't played any multiplayer game lately that has a good grasp on cheaters.

  • @artyboyy
    @artyboyy Před 2 dny

    Magic prots and an inventory full of frannies should accompany any good barbarian gear set. Let alone one running a named weapon

  • @missingno_fff941
    @missingno_fff941 Před 2 dny

    Regardless of whether Dimo cheats or not. 8 out of 10 people who complain about hackers here don't even hear the barbarian breaking through the door next door but then stay put for 5 minutes because they think a mummy is a player who is always running back and forth 💀

  • @redworm93
    @redworm93 Před 2 dny

    Dimo is not cheating lol 😂. He’s legit streaming now. Showed the whole task manager and everything 😂😂. Your a fuckin clown

    • @SolomonDandD
      @SolomonDandD Před 2 dny

      ... do you understand that cheats can be turned off?

    • @redworm93
      @redworm93 Před 2 dny

      @@SolomonDandD lmfao yeah but nothing i’ve seen has proven he uses cheats. and everything i’ve seen is other content creators dick riding for views lol. wilson gaming has such low game sense and is just mad dino didn’t mention his name in a video lol. ive fought actual cheaters in this game and it doesn’t look like what dimos doing i can assure you that. and if dimo is cheating why isn’t he getting banned like all the people you reported 😂. you’re one of those “guilty until proven innocent” people aren’t you lol. but you also refuse to accept any knew information lol. it’s kind of pathetic really. i’ve lost respect for any content creator who is this blind to the truth lol. hes also added a hand camera and shows his screen lol. 😂 you’re just looking for views and clout lol.

    • @redworm93
      @redworm93 Před dnem

      @@SolomonDandD yeah i’d delete my comment too. it shows how little you actually have to go off of to say he’s cheating lol. 😂

  • @CodyisKing
    @CodyisKing Před 3 dny

    The same lying cowards who defended him the first time were also cheaters. Like onpeg and those other red named losers

  • @Isaax
    @Isaax Před 3 dny

    For anyone who needs a further anecdote for Dimo - I uploaded a clip where he appears to track Y4mi through the wall with both POVs side by side, it's my most recent video.

  • @snakycake4790
    @snakycake4790 Před 3 dny

    makes a guide for 'intermediate' players, wastes nearly 5 minutes explaining how use the main menu....

  • @Damood
    @Damood Před 3 dny

    Respect to you for not sitting on the fence! If noone speaks out, nothing changes

  • @6327499
    @6327499 Před 3 dny

    Nice rs music!!!

  • @Tridstan
    @Tridstan Před 3 dny

    Does no one in this comment section understand what flicking is. Ive been playing for like 3 weeks and i understand this. Not to mention that playing for 4000 HOURS will give you quite a bit of muscle memory.

  • @lashello
    @lashello Před 3 dny

    Teamkillers now are also a big problem.

  • @snaztw7
    @snaztw7 Před 3 dny

    Agreed, 100%.

  • @jibbybravo9463
    @jibbybravo9463 Před 3 dny

    Now that dimo is hand cam streaming, will you make a public apology for the way you spoke about him in this video. Made you look pretty foolish

    • @SolomonDandD
      @SolomonDandD Před 3 dny

      Lol. Lmao even. Do you have any brain cells? Now the twitchy aim-bot movement is just suddenly gone! It's almost as if he turned the cheats off!

    • @jibbybravo9463
      @jibbybravo9463 Před 3 dny

      @@SolomonDandD damn you’re triggered bro. Love is free. As a streamer especially you have an obligation to be objective and you failed miserably.

  • @Phoenix42.0
    @Phoenix42.0 Před 3 dny

    So the clip on the stairs just looks like someone who's trained in smoothbot in kovaaks and has good aim shown here: czcams.com/video/rX6U69aZMD8/video.html

    • @Phoenix42.0
      @Phoenix42.0 Před 3 dny

      However the head tracking in the player lobby makes me think there's like a 50% chance he's cheating. But as Iron Mace has cleared him I'm not so sure he's cheating.

    • @Phoenix42.0
      @Phoenix42.0 Před 3 dny

      Also from what I've seen I suspect dimo of wall hacking or proximity beep hacking.

  • @HimothyJonesJr.
    @HimothyJonesJr. Před 3 dny

    Im new to your channel bro welcome me

  • @juleskosky8469
    @juleskosky8469 Před 3 dny

    I love you

  • @juleskosky8469
    @juleskosky8469 Před 3 dny

    I love you

  • @juleskosky8469
    @juleskosky8469 Před 3 dny

    be my friend

  • @Trildin
    @Trildin Před 3 dny

    Wilson's first video was crap and I stopped caring. Is there actual solid evidence now?

    • @l1wzEqsWwy
      @l1wzEqsWwy Před dnem

      Just the normal witch hunting, go watch and try the things in the "fishy clips" yourself.

    • @dongmei3810
      @dongmei3810 Před 12 hodinami

      Check his aim tracking and compare it to aim tracking that known cheats have. The aiming tracking is very unique, its not natural or smooth. I thought wilsons video was garbage too but after I looked specifically at the aim tracking it looked pretty sus.

    • @gregoryreynolds3612
      @gregoryreynolds3612 Před 12 hodinami

      Wilson's newest vid at around the 16 min mark shows some of Dimo's kills VS druids in rat form and that shit is undeniable at this point.

    • @Trildin
      @Trildin Před 19 minutami

      ​@@gregoryreynolds3612 meh, still looks like heresay to me. I'm seeing Dimo post his new vids with mouse on screen. He clearly has high dpi, and you can see the jittery movements when he's in a heated situation. Hard to argue that he's incredibly good at the game. Why cheat at that point anyway

  • @tiredtyrant370
    @tiredtyrant370 Před 3 dny

    *another random DaD CZcamsr tries to cash in on the Dimo drama*

  • @QueekHeadtaker
    @QueekHeadtaker Před 3 dny

    Firebox uses esp, yami uses aimbot.

  • @QueekHeadtaker
    @QueekHeadtaker Před 3 dny

    I called him out on day 1. everyone told me to get a life.

    • @friedrichgotze3264
      @friedrichgotze3264 Před 3 dny

      One day one god (big cheater imo) created light... you and dimo didn't exist back then. Get a life and touch some gras.

  • @TruVibezz
    @TruVibezz Před 3 dny

    why do we think dimo is cheating? I've seen videos looking at "aim hacks" in a game with no hitscan. Aimbot would actively work against you trying to land bow and thrown weapon shots.

  • @sdunned7842
    @sdunned7842 Před 3 dny

    Fellow cheater here. Most people do not have monetary incentive to cheat, they just enjoy killing everyone in the lobby. I have esp for dark and darker, although I rarely use it. This game doesn’t have too bad of a cheater problem mainly because it’s not that popular of a game. Dimo is probably soft cheating, a lot of streamers and CZcamsrs cheat, they have the most monetary value, Chinese hackers are mostly playing WOW or something where people like to whale. The issue is how much you suffer when going against just one hacker. You can’t back out, you can’t hide, you’re pretty much just at their mercy, and with aimbot and ai cheats they might just kite you to death. PvP games in general are pretty much cooked now because everyone is on pc or there’s crossplay. Before it wasn’t extremely popular to hack because everyone was on ps3 and Xbox back in the day, there were no streamers, most people who gamed all day didn’t have any money, so no one ever talked about it. Now just about every PvP game I’ve ever played has hackers quite frequently. What’s funny is I didn’t know how to really tell the difference until I started cheating, and found out a lot of other people are cheating too.. think about the tarkov wiggle. For those of you who don’t know about the tarkov wiggle, it’s a way to communicate with other hackers that you can see them and they can see you.

    • @unexist001
      @unexist001 Před 3 dny

      Hope you become blind soon.

    • @meltdown4126
      @meltdown4126 Před 2 dny

      "Most people do not have monetary incentive to cheat, they just enjoy killing everyone in the lobby." - that's what I've been saying since times immemorial, yet somehow people think cheating always means rmt

  • @Gheezy_cs
    @Gheezy_cs Před 4 dny

    i used to like you but you seem jealous Dimo is better than you, hes not cheating you must be slow thats an unsub from me enjoy being a 5k sub dnd youtuber making no money you bum

  • @Nac1xem
    @Nac1xem Před 4 dny

    you said it was confirmed he was cheating, does that mean the devs banned him?

  • @XBSNxPanda
    @XBSNxPanda Před 4 dny

    Yeah me and my duo go in 2 times with full legendary frost light sets and spawn at the bottom of goblin caves hr somehow 3 teams collapsed on us when we’re spawning bottom of the map how hard is it to make a good anticheat?

    • @Tridstan
      @Tridstan Před 3 dny

      when you have that kind of gear people rush spawns. kinda expected when you come that stacked (if this when pre game lobby was still here)

  • @antonyapostolov8252

    I am from EU server and almost ragequit 1 month into the game because of "the country of unknown origin", I was playing only trios with my friends where cheaters are more prevalent, and the amount of Chinese cheaters on EU server was absolutely insane, you easily recognize them from nickname alone, and this is EU which is pretty far from China... They are fuckin everywhere. This has made me very biased against Chinese players as a whole, where now I instantly report anyone with a Chinese nickname even though they might not be cheating, it's created a form a racism against these players for me. China should be region locked with VPN detectors for sure.

  • @vtomb8618
    @vtomb8618 Před 4 dny

    Where is the 100% confirmed by Iron Mace?

    • @SolomonDandD
      @SolomonDandD Před 4 dny

      Lol. "Bro gamedev co I like is omnipotent!"

    • @vtomb8618
      @vtomb8618 Před 3 dny

      @SolomonDandD I get multiple people banned daily. Dimo should be banned by now if he was cheating. He isn't banned. So either it's one big conspiracy or he doesn't cheat.

  • @Reminiscencez
    @Reminiscencez Před 4 dny

    LMAO Unsubscribed

  • @MEATnPOTATO
    @MEATnPOTATO Před 4 dny

    Do you want to hear something sick... on oceanic - in high roller - WE can get over 30% of the players we run into banned on a daily basis.... and that is only the players we see and report.... so god knows how many are ACTUALLY cheating... for every rat you see, there is 1000 you don't. It is disgusting. Sad part is. We still have a positive K/D and have a blast. This is why we all play in the sub 25 bracket and just pvp all day

  • @wiljagerhardt1219
    @wiljagerhardt1219 Před 4 dny

    ur just a brokeeee

  • @sethsonnier5843
    @sethsonnier5843 Před 4 dny

    I went to dungeonborne

  • @papadyso4553
    @papadyso4553 Před 4 dny

    copper lightfoot boots suck just use blue lightfoot boots with physical power or strength

  • @K4G-117
    @K4G-117 Před 4 dny

    We still sticking to this after seeing his hands?

  • @wkiraa
    @wkiraa Před 4 dny

    Graysun literally said Dimo isn’t cheating?

    • @bluedude656
      @bluedude656 Před 4 dny

      Graysun said there wasn't definitive proof of him cheating, which is definitely not the same thing

    • @wkiraa
      @wkiraa Před 4 dny

      @@bluedude656 Exact message reads, “If there was any actual evidence of you cheating you would be banned” So if Dimos cheating why would wilsonsgames evidence not be enough? Or whoever the other guy is that made a video on it

    • @bluedude656
      @bluedude656 Před 4 dny

      @@wkiraa you can watch the several clips and make up your own mind. Graysun obviously means that their anticheat hasn't caught anything, which is very different from totally clearing Dimo's name.

    • @wkiraa
      @wkiraa Před 4 dny

      @@bluedude656 they could always manual ban him?

    • @bluedude656
      @bluedude656 Před 4 dny

      @@wkiraa I didn't say anything about that. All I'm saying is that Graysun said nothing about whether or not Dimo is cheating, he just said that they don't have definitive evidence that he is. My opinion is that there is enough evidence to conclude that he's cheating, but it's not up to me whether or not he is banned (even if I think he should be).

  • @GreenKnight1294
    @GreenKnight1294 Před 4 dny

    The main problem with Ironmace's anti-cheat detection is that if you're already cheating it's because you've figured out how to circumvent the anti-cheat. People need to understand that just beacuse Ironmace hasn't banned someone it doesn't mean they're innocent, that's idiotic.