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Ooo a deck that has actually peaked my interest. 1st time this year. Interesting. Has carnival at the end of the world vibes. Only not as excludingly abstract, or art school mean girl.

Ooo I like... This decks suit emblems are really cool. Wish this deck was around 5yrs ago. Hey ho. How many Thoth books???? Better you than I. I, too, dislike being told what an archetype symbol means to me. I think Thea, over at Garden Goddess Tarot (i think is her channel name) said it well with "don't tell me what to do, unless I'm naked" . Thoth books are not in that category, so I know I would kiss my teeth a lot. Having said all that, looking forward to thoth girl summer review of books. Thank you for your video.

it s a very cool deck. I've not been using my larger sized decks (edited oh its shorter hmmm that's a benefit now). I really like the suit designations!

Oh wow, Tom. Thank you so much for your time and wonderful feedback regarding Tarot of H’Arts. I am wholeheartedly honored and grateful to you and your marvelous viewers ✨🫀✨🙏🏽

i find this tarot to be almost perfect for me EXCEPT for the skeletal faces. :(

The irony of this being 7 years ago and you start out the video about being down in regard to the election results. And me also remembering that horrifying time 😫 and now here we are again having to worry about the same thing AGAIN! 😭

Tarot Noir is the size I'd use for a teaching deck, if I knew enough to teach Marseille tarot and was doing an in person class. It seems a little unwieldy for in person reading though.

I love the tarot in all its flavors. Fool that I am I'm trying to learn RWS and TdM at the same time. I'd love to take your class, but I don't have $250 of disposable funds at the moment.

I realize this is 7 years old but damn! I dig this ramble of philosophical detail and extras you have given here! I’m about to work my way through the other 3 suits now! 😅

Do you traditionally do third party readings for your clients? If not how do you like to help your client reframe the question?

❤❤❤❤ thank you for sharing your beautiful spirit❤❤❤❤❤❤

Ooh such a great idea to trim this deck! I have it and for some reason I didn't like working with it so I'm going to trim it and see if it's any more appealing to me that way

very cool

thank you

I have the vampire tarot deck! It was amazing seeing the other work of Robert M Place! I love the artwork!

I wish I had heard someone discuss #10 eight years ago when I first started with tarot. All the extra associations I just could not understand how or when of if I should consider them answering my questions. I sort of did this meandering through this book and that to try and integrate it all. Eventually I just burned out and picked up a TDM deck out of curiosity and readings became a lot clearer. Now when I pick up a RWS deck I'm not nearly as overwhelmed or even concerned...Nice. I hope this video reaches millions. Thank you for keeping it real. ✍

I think sometimes the right work comes through in spite of the maker/creator. I don't like Crowley either, but I love the Thoth deck, which he didn't paint. Lady Harris's artwork is stunning. It's just abstract and beautiful enough to do it for me, with little interest in the esoteric thinking behind it.

Mel Meleem put her earlier Rosetta deck along with the excellent guidebook on the Fools Dog app so for people who would like to play around with the Thothy vibes and learn from the book, you can do that without having go buy a deck.

All those tarot books I bought over the years --I should have just watched this video (first anyway) Thank you 🥰

Sweetheart you monologue your heart out. I was thinking the other day where are all the gay or Asian or darker skinned people in my tarot and oracle decks? It's 2024, not 1984...Come on! Anyone remember the United Colors of Benetton? Anyway, I think it's worth you mentioning it. You're appreciated, friend. Blessings!💓

I know Thoth tarot was made partly by a despicable man, but I can not help that it just resonates with me way better. One of my favourite decks is an indie deck made on the basis of Crowley's Tarot by a queer artist. I do consider the original to also be close to my heart, but i think that is more Harris' work. I unfortunately only own one cheap czech translation thats also rather tiny. But I still prefer Crowley over RWS. The removal of christianization really calms my mind.

Being a massive Thoth Crowley enjoyer got me into pips (I...quickly realised there is something about them about not being as prescribed by people means I do not need to inherit the heteronoramtive bias in the readings created by cishet decks. Also I started to become limited by just RWS). However I still struggle massively. I like learning esoteric stuff and I read Papus and my buddy Wirth and Eudes Picard. As flawed as their systems are, they are systems and they are fun to research. Pips howwever usually leave me behind in the dust. I think the numbers and suit just feels too simple - like I can not dig as deep as I would with one card of post golden dawn systems. I am still struggling on overcoming that aha. Also Majors and Minors feel like massive jump so seeing them in once scene really jumbles my brain. And this video helped a lot! Seeing it work in progress really helped me a lot to feel less guilty about mixing up things. It is really funny my favourite deck is New Choice Marseilles (very white and thin bodied but I still love it dearly ...) Also Ancient Italian tarot is very beautiful ! I think I own more Marseille and pip decks now. I would love to see non marseille pips. I am gunning for Rennesaice tarot by brian williams now - mini scenes greek mythology and pip-ish. I think my dream deck is pip with little scenes that can imply further meaning. Fundamentally I always just read the systems in a mixed way, although with Marseille I will always draw more cards. So it always confused me when people said "Well RWS is always set meaning" because I never read it like that But I should have known I was being a weirdo even with my RWS... This video was definitely enlightening and I hope to read the book and watch more viddys soon!

Thoth Girl Summer ! Ha I like. I'm not quite there yet... although I have a few Thoth highbred decks.... However, I always give a rueful smile about the up in arms response to Crowley, when moving aside the theatrical constructed persona of the 'beast', A.E.Waite and co were of the same stock and attitude. A gnosis that was brewed to boiling point in the GD, from similar backgrounds of gentlemanly and aristocratic public schools (private schools in the US). All of this spewed out into a series of paintings (shout out to Frieda Harris) that was a micro version of enlightenment as revealed to a myopic but often stoned, unplesant man. Do I need to or want to try and unravel the privileged, misogynistic early 20thC Eurocentric esoteric ramblings of the self styled "beast" or do I look at the Thoth deck as a shapeshifting 'tool' which ultimately means it can be anything I want it to be. I am the reader soooo.... That went off on a little rant... Thank you for your video, in terms of deck types. You went in so we don't have to. Your reading was interesting as well. Much gratitude Jx

My mom me told me of a quote in high school that was enlightening for me. She said it was Mark Twain’s but I couldn’t corroborate that. Anyway this video brought it to mind…..”If you can only afford one newspaper, buy the oppositions.” Anyway thank you so much for this video and your thoughts. Much appreciated.

I’m not sure how difficult it is to obtain, but The Thoth Journey Tarot: An Oracle for Change by Aia Leu & Joanna-Kate Grant is another beautiful modern take on the Thoth template. I very much enjoyed the reading that went along with your personal process. Thank you!

You forgot about the outrageous misogyny……

My father is an Anglo-Irish gentleman of a certain age. He tells me Crowley, Gerald Gardner, and goofballs like that were everywhere in British public schools (private schools, for Americans) at the time. They were the edge lords of the early 20th century, and most of it was just an attempt to see women naked for free. Even Lady Freida Harris is a goofy, pretentious weirdo. Her real title should be, Freida Lady Harris, but she put the Lady first because that implies she's the daughter of a Duke or Earl, rather than one's divorced wife.

Thank you for your continued honesty about the Thoth/Crowley question. I haven't purchased or used a Thoth deck because of the association. I've also deeply considered that many of the tools we use may have been inspired by and brought to the public under the hands of twisted people (art is an excellent example). I guess right now I've settled on not having THIS deck in my posession due to the extremity and purposeful misery of his actions and the direct degree of association the deck holds. I'm sure the interwebs will attack me to challenge that, but I really don't care; my convictions and inner voice tells me I don't need that deck in my practice so I simply look the other way. Curiously, I have brought Mary-El into my space, another Thothy inspired deck, but only after learning that hers is Thoth inspired but lifted into a different level through a completely different lens. I hope you will share your thoughts on the Thoth-inspired-but-not-Crowley decks out there, and how you sit with more "evolved" generations. Its good to see someone in the community willing to stand on their principles and also say they want to challenge themselves with what is offensive. Each reader making space for their personal ethic would be a welcome trend. Thanks again.

I really love the Thoth art. This is just me, but helps me re this deck to think of Crowley as this damaged little boy growing up in a really extreme cult, rejected by his mother, I can have empathy for that *and* reject his horrible hateful choices as an adult. The fact Frida initiated this deck project and put up with his asshole ways bc she believed in his vision interests me. I wonder what it was like for him to have a talented, wealthy woman (that he wasn't objectifying) challenge him, but also accept him where his own mother could not. Frida must have seen some humanity in him despite knowing unpleasant and unpopular he was.

Hehe, love how far down this particular rabbit hole you went in the search for a Thoth deck. I have the large version with the more saturated colours and white border on the backs. I absolutely love it, the artwork just sings (I can't deal with anything smaller for this deck, it just doesn't work so well IMHO). I originally thought that I would trim my copy down, what with it being so big and also finding the borders/keywords/titles kind of obnoxious but I have come to enjoy them as they are. I think Crowley was a bellend and don't really have any interest in what he had to say but my gods, every reading I have done with that deck has been intense and very spot on, right from the very first single card draw I did with it. I have a lovely worn secondhand copy of the Arrien book but have yet to read it. I hadn't heard of the book by the d1ck obsessed guy, is it worth reading? Thanks for sharing your Thoth Girl Summer findings!

I enjoyed seeing comparisons and enjoyed listening to your thought process. I hope you can show us a comparison with your two gold thoths eventually. I’ve seen some on CZcams but it wasn’t as clear of a set up. Thoth is my favorite but personality I read them my own way and I accepted that’s okay. Enjoy exploring!

Yes Crowley was a product of his time, but he was particularly worst then his pears

I don't like Crowley, but given the way human nature is, if you can't separate the art from the artist you'll never be able to use/appreciate much art. And I think the existence of art in our world is more important than the individual personalities that create it. Art gives us beauty and challenges our preconceptions and opens up new ideas. Even a bad person can have moments of beauty, a great idea, or even a prejudice that we can recognize in ourselves that helps us change. I got a Green version about 50+ years ago and for some reason carried it around for many years even though I wasn't into tarot till recently. Unfortunately, along the way I lost about 5 of the cards, but I keep it for sentimental reasons. I'd be interested to hear what non Crowley Thoth decks you might have, like Sun and Moon, and what you think of the deck when it's not Lady Frieda's art.

thank you for the comparison. I like the more saturated colors. Seems to have more depth

Watching this in 2024. So helpful and it completely resonates. Thank you

Love the use of an actual question, even if it’s made up, compared to a general reading 👍🏼

I love that concept of "what happens if we change how the first row plays out" simply by re-shuffling the same cards. I never thought of doing that, yet it makes so much sense. Thanks for sharing that method.

No big love relationship goin on here…

Yes-smaller time periods and fewer cards. Otherwise it gets way too complicated.