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My understanding is that if you're turning across another (straight-through) lane then you yield to that lane - most intersections like this have an explicit sign saying to yield to bikes when turning right. In this case, they were signalling, but hadn't started turning yet. They started their turn while I was right beside them. They drove into my path, rather than me riding into their path. Alternatively, since the bike lane has a dashed line here, you can change lanes into the bike lane just before the intersection, and then turn right from the bike lane. This just shifts the check-and-yield to before the intersection instead of at the intersection, which seems safer. But I never see anyone do this. (In fact, Drive Smart BC seems to be saying that you *have* to do this.) But I could be wrong - if so, any sources which clarify the situation would be appreciated.

There is a pedestrian on the right of the screen trying to cross. The sidewalk on either side continues across the road, so there is an unmarked crosswalk here. Vehicles must yield to pedestrians using a crosswalk (marked or unmarked). (See section 119 of the MVA for the definition of crosswalk.)

​@@GeoStreetMaps-zw6cx so the car should have stopped in the middle of the intersection? the clip literally right after it u claim is bad driving and its a driver stopped in an intersection for a pedestrian crossing in an unmarked crosswalk

The driver should stop before entering the intersection, wait for the pedestrian to cross, then go through the intersection.

@@GeoStreetMaps-zw6cx No. There's no All-Stop sign there which implies a stop sign on every direction of the intersection. Please learn the rule book.

From the Motor Vehicle Act: 119 (1) defines crosswalk as (among other things) "the portion of a highway at an intersection that is included within the connection of the lateral lines of the sidewalks on the opposite sides of the highway". ('Highway' is defined differently in the MVA than in every-day use - the streets in Vancouver are all highways according to the MVA.) 179 (1) says "[...] the driver of a vehicle must yield the right of way to a pedestrian where traffic control signals are not in place or not in operation when the pedestrian is crossing the highway in a crosswalk [...]". 189 (1) (c) states that a driver must not stop a vehicle "in an intersection, except as permitted by a sign". These 3 rules put together imply my previous statement ("The driver should stop before entering the intersection, wait for the pedestrian to cross, then go through the intersection.") unless I've overlooked something? Stop signs are not relevant to the situation we're discussing. Source: www.bclaws.gov.bc.ca/civix/document/id/complete/statreg/96318_05

Thanks. Drivers only checking for oncoming cars when turning right is extremely common everywhere unfortunately. The new plans for Frances Union have a lot of continuous sidewalks - hopefully that doesn't get pulled out, and makes it to construction.

Just like the US, Canada has terrible infrastructure. This is what happen when USA babysit Canada

Definitely, and to Royal Oak & Oakland/Burris.

Are you referring to the clips in the "Crashes & Roundabouts" chapter at 1:30? Those are ubiquitous in Vancouver, and there are signs facing all four directions with a diagram showing that you need to stay to the right. I'm sure, beyond a reasonable doubt, that these drivers understand how they work and know that they're doing the wrong thing. I'm sympathetic to people who genuinely get confused by road configurations, but personally I don't think any changes are needed to the road design here. The alternative would be stop signs for the cross road, and given how most cars slow down instead of stopping, I don't think that would be better/safer for cyclists (these 2 clips are on bike routes).

Have you had success reporting drivers? How do you do it? I don't see any online form or portal, it seems like the only way is to call the police and file a report, which is a hassle.

@@GeoStreetMaps-zw6cx yes VPD has a specific traffic unit department that I emailed my videos and concerns to, and they can issue warnings and tickets as needed i can send you a message for the VPD email?

Yes, thanks.

@@GeoStreetMaps-zw6cx I don't know how to send you a message on youtube

Thanks. I use the AKASO V50 Pro, which has worked pretty well/reliably so far.

@@GeoStreetMaps-zw6cx thanks. I'm looking and making videos of my drives around in my power wheelchair so I am looking into good cameras.

Yeah sure.

It's hard to get exact numbers on projects since they're often done at the same time as other work (such as replacing a sewer), but generally my understanding is that adding bike infrastructure is significantly cheaper than, say, creating a single highway overpass or on-/off-ramp (which we do all the time without questioning the cost). Also the maintenance is much easier because there aren't heavy cars/trucks wearing the surface down. For example, Richmond recently created a road River Parkway where an old train track used to be, for $13.2m. And all this did was replace the existing parallel River Rd, adding no new car capacity. Whereas adding a separated bike path to Gilbert Rd is expected to be about $4.2m (and this is on the more expensive end of bike projects - adding some concrete barriers and repainting some lanes is obviously much cheaper).

@@Rubicola174 I wasnt holding cyclists to a higher standard, everyone should follow the rules

Good point, I agree, everyone should follow the rules. (Although safety-wise, as pointed out in the other reply, there's a big difference between driving a large object which can easily kill someone, vs being on a bike. So having different rules for cars vs bikes seems reasonable. But that's not currently the case at stop signs in BC.) I do stop at stop signs such as the one you pointed out, but without putting my foot down if there's nobody to wait for, which is hard to tell in the video because it's brief and the camera is on my helmet which will move as I stand up/forward to accelerate. If there's someone else who got there first I'll put my foot down so that they can clearly see I'm stopping.

There's never enough parking in urban spaces, so why even bother

@@user-tr7jm1sb3d think about slanted parking spaces! in order to do this you need to wisen the road and you can park double the amount of cars compared to parallel parking spaces! in order to do this you need to limit the sidewalks remove the bike lanes and wide the roads! also if vancouver wants to fix their trafic situation they need to remove all choke points on the highways that way it won't force people to switch lanes! with how much it rains in vancouver all people should be banned from riding bikes on roads in winter! for safety sake!

Where exactly? I've driven and lived all over BC. Nobody is polite. Lol

anywhere but metrovancouver tbh@@Ayzrito

@@privatevoidnoname7421 I live in central BC, nobody is polite. I drive down to Vancouver all the time and no polite drivers anywhere.

You need to go to Europe or Japan to see how the civilized world drives.

@@fridericusrex9812 Haha for sure!! I am going to Europe for 2 weeks next year :)

I can't imagine it getting any worse. But it does look like it will be much better (if a bit indirect): www.pattullobridgereplacement.ca/newsandinfo/renderings-maps