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@@rorynelson7548 hopefully this answer doesn’t piss you off, but if you’re looking for “comfort” I recommend the .75. It will have a slightly taller seat post and a medium standard seat which is the perfect size seat for these stands. The extra length on the front of the stand is nice… but it’s honestly not “needed” but could be great to have if you want to amp up comfort with a mesh seat. Mesh seat size takes up a lot of platform on the .5 in my opinion. Now with the .5… when you get up high, the platform shrinks. lol I also battle with heights but the biggest thing you need to remember with the .5 is it’s a minimalist stand. It’s not made for comfort or to be an all day sit and chill style hunt. So keeping that in mind, if your goal is to get your weight that you’re carrying in down… and to hop around and not be restricted to one tree.. the .5 with medium seat is the best stand for that in my opinion. But if you’re not worried about weight savings, and you’re not hiking a whole lot and you just want a light option, I’d look at the .75, if not the 1.0. You can get the 1.0 with a medium seat… and you’re looking at just a few minor ounce different in weight. It’s like 3 or 4 ounces if I remember correctly between the .75 and 1.0 with the same seat options. The 1.0 looks bigger in weight on website because it comes standard with the large seat. But honestly getting the medium seat matches the weight almost perfectly to the .75… and adds some width that if you’re really nervous in a tree might help you out. Being 5’6… the seat post options would all probably be just find in the standard configurations. And being 218lbs size 10 you will have good room in all stands for foot room, but the 1.0 might offer more width security for you and make the transition easier.

@@michigangrownoutdoors7254 man thanks so much for the great response. Really helps man thanks

@@rorynelson7548 hard to give the best advise in a quick response without knowing the demands you have for the stand and expectations.

@@rorynelson7548 but hope it answered your question.

@@michigangrownoutdoors7254 yes it did man. I'm using an old 14 pound LW alpha 2 now and just can be a sob to hang sometimes trying to hold that sucker to the tree and get the strap around ya know lol appreciate you taking the time man seriously

@@carlparisi9749 the .5 really surprised me even at 6’2. It’s my go-to now. Even over the .75.

@@michpatriot9097 thank you

Appreciate it!

I agree. The grommet holes match up for either the long or compact sticks. I don’t think they were designed to hold the sticks in rather just give an alignment for the j hooks or even maybe bungee or a rope/strap attachment. I don’t see any issues if I’m being honest. Should line up just like a normal stand, just no cables under them getting in the way. lol

Yes, I ordered at www.stealthoutdoors.com… If you call during work hours, you can get custom cuts and orders as you need. They’re very accommodating. If you want, you can take measurements of widths and lengths you need and place a custom order. Just make sure you add about 1/4 inch or so on width to also for over lap. It’s not needed but it helps :)

No problem! How do you like it?

I agree. But the whole marketing approach.. I find it funny. And just because you have the equipment doesn’t mean you’re using it right. Woodsman ship is priority number one. Thanks for the input. Really appreciate it.

Yes, all the stands have the bow holder holes IN THE PLAYFORMS. but the .5 seat (small seat) does not have bow holder holes in it. You would have to get the medium seat on it to do that… and it only adds a few ounces to the total weight. And the comfort and multi use function is there.

That’s tuff! I honestly think what they have in their stands makes the pack in/out so much quicker and simple it’s just awesome.

I believe they have made changes to the mesh seat. They had two seats that I saw break, but it was due to user error. They had slipped and fell onto the seat and it cracked some where. I don’t remember. And the mesh, while toe hooking, you put all your weight on that mesh on a knee point. Over time I could see that “stretching” but I think lwcg made changes to their bar to help eliminate that.

Yeah, stealth strips are truly awesome. Love mine.

What do you need a template for? Stealth outdoors sell kits just for the stand and different areas “as needed.” Honestly you can go minimal or you can wrap it. It’s up to what you prefer or need. I have a fully wrapped summit climber.

@@michigangrownoutdoors7254 I'm good I got it figured out

I wasn’t trying to sound sarcastic or anything just curious as to how you would want to lay it out. I don’t think there’s a simple answer to people wanting to customize their stuff. Was just trying to see what your demands of the stand would be to make a best recommendation. If you’re not bouncing around a lot or doing multiple set ups a day or if you think it just adds a super cool look and feel I’d ask about just painting it your self and adding minimal strips. Where if you’re bouncing around a lot, and you want to set up quick and fast and speed is a factor I’d say more. Because if you’re in a hurry or you want to be quicker… that’s when you’re at most risk of noise. But if you’re just taking your time and being careful. You need less of it.

Definitely recommend buckle silencers too. I had made my own in the past but the ones they set are fantastic.

@@michigangrownoutdoors7254 You're good , I was just seeing how you stealth striped the stand but once I got the stealth strips I figured it out.wasnt taking it wrong at all

For sure. Stealth strips are amazing. Best on market.

Medium seat. 10/10 recommend.

Ok and?

:) pretty much yeah.

That’s awesome. I wish I had those hours during hunting season!!

I have the tall post and medium seat (medium seat standard on .75 but not .5).

Thanks for the feed back! And no problem! I have some mesh seats I’ll be putting on and trying out here soon.

Appreciate it.

Guilty. Only cuz the shit is so nice! Lmao

They’re nice calls.

Definitely make some valid points. I’m still in sure as well. I seen that post it was after this video was made and posted. Definitely something I plan to test out fully. I love my beast sticks as well!

Yeah, I feel like not many videos covered that… but wanted to show even moving slow with them they make a bit of noise.

They are loud. But I have the doubles from Lwcg, and I feel the same with my doubles. I just got done wrapping these bad boys lol. So I would like to get these and compare the both of them

Loud? Every stick not silenced is loud..

I don’t get the load comments? They like EVERY stick are load before silenced with something like stealth strips. A friend of mine has LWCG doubles and they make these sound quiet as a church mouse. I got a chance to play with a Tethrd one stick and they sound like an organ pipe and same with my trophy line doubles loud as hell out the box. So I did order these and like everyone frustrated with manufacturing mess ups but I received my four sticks this week and the functionality of them is spot on for my needs. Some stealth strips or camo tape and as quiet as any other stick. Yes they are different then my TL doubles and think they aren’t gonna be for everyone. They function much like a Tethrd one stick as the step and stand-off are one and the same so this looks and feels different on the tree the a stand-off that can adjust to the lean of a tree. However I’ve been playing with them for 4 days now on hard slick barked trees, leaning tree, big and small ones and still haven’t found one I couldn’t climb. Like everything your not gonna make everyone happy and I agree this DISASTER that was the production of these sticks was very unprofessional but not sure how controllable. Now I never had trouble getting emails and questions about my order answered but if people did then bad on Latitude. In the end I’m glad I didn’t cancel order but understand peoples frustrations.

Yeah my lwcg doubles have or had like an echoing ring to them. But I feel like noise is noise regardless. Still gotta take your time.

I feel for ya. I heard someone ordered and had them delivered 5 days later on the last week lol. So idk what’s going on over there.

Cancel latitude and order scheels. I guess that’s the way people are doing it now. Lol

Unfortunately I went through a dealer and am kinda stuck just hoping I get them before the season starts.

What dealer you go through? And hopefully ya do. Sorry to hear that but I’m certain dealers should be having them in stock.

Ordered mine Feb 6th and I got mine today 8/9/23. I had no trouble with them answering emails at all. They always answered me within 6-8hrs. However I was getting a little nervous and was setting up my wingman as a one stick just in case. Now that I have them I threw them on the tree real quick and for sure they are different. They don’t have moveable standoffs and that means it’s not gonna seat on the tree quite like a traditional stick. Now that being said once rope is hooked up and step was seated I couldn’t get it to move. Yes I think while literally jumping up and down on it I’m sure there was some flex but that’s an extreme test. On a real small tree 6in dia I just double wrapped amsteel and it truly didn’t move. For me I think they are gonna be great but they are different compared to other sticks and maybe not for some. I was offered to cancel my order but I rolled the dice and glad I did now that I have them. However I feel everyone’s pain with the delays!!!

Carbon tec is t new. There’s carbon arrows, timber ninja. But I definitely plan on getting them into a freezer and getting them straight from that into a tree.

It’s a joke lol 😂

No I don’t sorry. I don’t work for them. Just a customer who swears by how good they are. Look for deals they come up. Around the holidays last yr they did a thing where you get a $500 gift card for $400. So basically puts you at 20% off on a stand if you use that to a stand. Or if you get two.. $800 for $1000… you could get 20% off a set up potentially. And they will have like Father’s Day weekend 10% or other stuff here or there.

So I got the stand kit from stealthoutdoors. I wrapped outside edge of stand, out side edge of seat, the cables, where the seat locks as seen here, where the leveling bolt makes contact to the seat and the top of the bolt and then I think the contact areas where the post folds down to the platform. And I wrapped where I put the shoulder straps. It sounds like a lot but it wasn’t bad.

Honestly for packing stuff up, the lwcg stands are leaps beyond novix. The T’s in the platform of the custom gear stuff are truly awesome. Look at my first video I posted. I show how I attach sticks and stuff, even if their not custom gear sticks. If you can save and buy once cry once look… you could buy a help and do just fine and get the job done. But if you want something just. A bit better… lighter.. it’s awesome. I had the helo and liked it but I prefer these. Because you will just buy the helo and keep wondering about these and then you will get one and then not know what to do. Lol honestly get the best you can afford. H

@@michigangrownoutdoors7254 Well I think a couple yrs ago I would have been more tempted with the Helo at the price it was goin for but now I really can’t justify the money when you can just save a few more dollars to get LWCG stuff. I made mistake in trying to save money on steps and after one yr already spent another $325. I bought the Latitude Carbon sticks just waiting for them to come in after six months. It’s tough up here in Maine we just don’t have dealers that carry saddle and mobile hunting stuff to try before buying. I’d have bought a different saddle then I did and quite honestly I would have completely gone to a Dryad Killdeer with mini Drya if I was to be honest or the TX5 minimalist if I were to do it again. Saddles are starting to pick up some traction up here but stands just aren’t a thing much up here unless it’s a climber or ladder. Then about 75% of people hunt from ground only and even less bow hunt very much other then in Oct just passing time pre gun season. They don’t get serious until our gun season as it’s a month long and during the rut. If I’d had a mobile saddle/.5 setup the last 25yrs I believe my opportunities would have increased dramatically!!! I can’t tell you the amount of times I’ve still hunted in 3-4 miles and come across hot sign or a perfect setup but didn’t hunt it due to fact that carrying my climber just wasn’t viable. I get my info from channels like yours and Jason Samkoviac (? Spelling) since I can’t put hands on most of this stuff before buying. So again thank you!!!

For sure. I agree. You can get it done in other stands but this thing is just different. I have went through some other stuff before this. I got both the novix stands since they were designed from the original but lighter… but still I don’t think they’re bad stands they’re just not as good.

It’s hard to say. I just don’t know if the ingwe would be worth the money in comparison. There’s more in the lwcg stands than it… and there’s nothing wrong with these. Tried and true. Ingwe… this is all new to them. I hope they got it figured out they have some nice stuff in it. But idk if it would be an improvement or not.

That’s awesome! Yeah by far killed it with these.

Agree, nothing else comes close to these!

Thank you!

U r welcome I am ur 100th sub ❤️

@kakier4418 I appreciate that!

@@michigangrownoutdoors7254 ur welcome ☺️

What’s the fumble? Lol

So I split the sticks up in pairs. I stack them one on top of each other and place them face down, and the using the tie down points, I wrap them up with my bow rope. I’ll make a video when I get back up north where my stands are.

Honestly you don’t really notice. When standing I suggest folding the seat up, when you do this you can really utilize all of the platform. There’s room to move around even with the seat down… I have another video that shows both stands side by side with the .75 seat on it. And you can see exactly how much room I have in the stand.

@@michigangrownoutdoors7254 I saw your other video and it doesn't look bad at all. I was pretty set on the .5 seat, but I think I want the extra size of the .75. I'm going to use it with a saddle, and I sit a lot, so I want to make sure I have enough seat for my knees to rest on. Your vids have helped a lot, thanks!