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Does Shogun Let You Down
Any time we start a show or a movie or a book or any story at all, the beginning of the story is used to make our promises. These are promises of what this story is going to be about and some idea of what end this story is going to eventually reach.
CHAPTERS
00:00 Intro
00:48 Blackthorne's Promise
04:30 Blackthorne's Promise was Forgotten
07:08 Toronaga's Promise
08:56 Plot Twists and Broken Promises (GOT Spoilers)
11:59 Toronaga's Broken Promise
13:17 Why didn't they Deliver
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Eren didn’t do Anything for Freedom
zhlédnutí 2,2KPřed 3 měsíci
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How Succession Created a Monster
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zhlédnutí 1,4KPřed rokem
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Glass Onion has a Benoit Blanc Problem
zhlédnutí 4KPřed rokem
I left Glass Onion feeling disappointed and I kinda had to point my finger at Benoit Blanc, the whimsical James Bond. And Knives Out for giving us this problem. By the way I loved Knives Out. I loved Benoit Blanc in Knives out. I loved Daniel Craig as Benoit Blanc in Knives Out. So when I heard about a Knives Out sequel being an entirely new Blanc detective story I was ecstatic. Gimme more Blan...
How House of the Dragon Failed on Purpose
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Hunter x Hunter has a BIG Problem
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How Spider-Man: No Way Home Perfectly Realized Peter Parker (SPOILERS)
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Komentáře

  • @Red_Snapper
    @Red_Snapper Před 2 dny

    It is the best tv show we had in quite some time. I'm just surprised they didn't turn everyone gay.

  • @M1N1M3C
    @M1N1M3C Před 2 dny

    Interesting video. I agree with the majority of what you said, but I have a different opinion on some things. I think everything you say between 13:15 and 14:15 is very good. Regarding the finale: While I was watching the show, around the middle of it, I assumed that it would be complete with only 1 season. But when I saw the final episode I then simply assumed that there will be a second season, wich includes most of what you say between 12:00 and 13:00. It seem from what you said that, at that point, you instead assumed that they decided to finish the series with what we see at the end of season 1, wich you consider to be a disapointment. If what we see at the end of season 1 really was meant to be the end of the series, then I agree with you, it definetly would be a disapointing ending. But since I assumed the real ending will be in season 2, I was only a little disapointed to have to wait for season 2 to be available. I'll put the rest of my thoughts in response to this comment, to take less space.

    • @M1N1M3C
      @M1N1M3C Před 2 dny

      I never saw the way Blackthorne acted in the first episodes as a promise of future events or how this character would act during the ending. I simply saw it as Blackthorne's current personality. So yes I associated him with these character traits, but I never assumed that he would keep the same personality throughout the whole show and even less assume that he would act a certain way at the end of the story. The personality of a charater doesn't have to stay the same during the whole story, but it can't completely change for no reason either. In my opinion, the change of personality of Blackthorne is coherent and I even find it interesting. I think the most interesting aspect of his character is how his personility and the way he acts evolves as he learns and experiences japanese culture, wich is very different from what he expected and from what he is used to. In the begining Blackthorne thought japanese people were savages that are easily exploitable and are currently being exploited by the portugese. But as the story progresses, he realises that Japan is a lot more complex than expected and they have internal conflicts that are actually more important than the conflict with the portugese. He sees that, when compared to the japanese, he is the one who looks like a savage. And acting like he did in the begining will only help to get him killed. In Japan, it's not the most active and strongest who has the power, you need diplomatie to control people. Blackthorne than starts to act more and more like the japanese people. It's partially concious, to show respect, also partly subconcious because he has been living in Japan for some time and they thaught him how to act properly. But he still doesn't completly feel like a japanese, and even as a lot of difficulty understanding why they do certain things. For exemple, when the gardener was killed for touching the bird, Blackthorne became very angry and frustrated, with good reason. He later goes to see is old crew and is discusted by the way they act. They remind him of how he acted at the begining of the story. I think this is very coherent because Blackthorne has evoled since the begining but the rest of is crew didn't. Blackthorne now has a mindset that is in the middle between is old crew and the japanese people. Wich leaves him lost, because he cannot identify completly with anyone. And it results in him not really knowing what to do. So yes it makes him less of an epic combatant, but I don't really care about that now. I'm more interested in the development of his psychologie. For exemple simply seeing that he now pays attention to the path when walking through a garden, before he didn't care at all. To me that looks like good character development. I much prefer well tought out things with less impressive combat than amasing combat with no interesting reason behind it. But I think most of us can agree that the best is usualy to have both, impresive action with good reason, purpose and strategy. In the segment where you make a parallel with Game of Thrones to talk about disapointing ending and plot twists, my opinion is different. I think the final season is the one I enjoyed the most. It defenetly has mistakes, but to me it's one of the seasons which has the least amount of mistakes. I think that when most people saw what I call "mistakes" trough the whole story, they just subconciously thought "it's not a mistake, it just has to be fixed with the ending". So by the time they got to the ending, there was so much things that needed to be "fixed" that they were very disapointed. The way I saw it, when something bad happened I just thought it was badly done, I didn't expect the ending to make everything good. So I felt satisfied with the ending of Game of Thrones. I didn't feel like they made me a promise of a greater ending, because during the whole show they very often broke there "promises" in very terrible ways to make it unexpected and more suprising. I do not think the red wedding was good for the story as a whole. I do not think it was a good plot twist. I even felt less emotion than a normal scene because when something is this ridiculous it just gets me out of the story. Similar to the way I felt the final season of Game of Thrones had the least amount of mistakes, in Shogun I felt the begining had the most mistakes. I think you pointed at the most important thing when you said: "If your gonna lie to the audience, the lie better be more interesting than the truth." But I would add that it's not as simple as making it objectively more interesting. Since people have different opinions, for the plot twist to be considered good by a certain person, it has to be subjectively more interesting for that person. A person close to me told me, after watching Shogun, that they were disapointed with Blackthorne not doing much, and that they were actually expecting him to be the one to become shogun. I can understand the want for him to be more active, but to the point of expecting him to become shogun sounds ridiculously incoherent to me. I never felt that there was a promise for Blackthorne to be very important. Of course with any protagonist, we expect him to play a role and not be useless. But I think he has already played a part in making Toranaga not die and helping him beat Ishido. Also, I am not convicted that Toranaga really wants to be shogun, even less that he wanted this all along. Maybe he now sees becoming shogun as the only good option he has. I would like to clarify that I do not think Shogun is perfect, but I think it's still good or even very good.

  • @temoabuladze7979
    @temoabuladze7979 Před 2 dny

    zero fucking fights :dd only stoopit ass poems i get it it's beautifull but i am got fckin bored dude we love blood

  • @x_warhog_x8701
    @x_warhog_x8701 Před 2 dny

    Funny, It didnt let me down in the least.................But then I've read the actual novel.

  • @purrfekt
    @purrfekt Před 2 dny

    How much of this is due to the showrunners/scriptwriters, and how much of it was due to the source material?

  • @zakkmiller8242
    @zakkmiller8242 Před 3 dny

    I was terribly let down. They foreshadowed this epic showdown where white boy was going to use his ship to rain down hellfire on the bad guys to help the good guys but this big epic fight doesnt ever happen. They even gave it this killer name "Crimson Sky" but turns out, Crimson Sky is just sending this chick who can only speak in poems into the bad guys castle to bore them to absolute death with poetry. I was skipping through every piece of dialog by the last 3 episodes because I was going to commit Sepukku if I heard ONE MORE FKNG POEM. lmao I tuned into for Samurai action I only found poems poems poems.

    • @Pruthvikajaykumar
      @Pruthvikajaykumar Před 2 dny

      😂😂 but toranaga is the shit

    • @mohamedbm4293
      @mohamedbm4293 Před 2 dny

      You realise shows have seasons,right? I saw same complaints about other shows that not every plot point was solved in the first season, just to be solved in later ones

    • @x_warhog_x8701
      @x_warhog_x8701 Před 2 dny

      lol you must not have read the novel because if you had you would not have been let down since it ends in the same way......

  • @ntavares540
    @ntavares540 Před 4 dny

    My favorite art piece.

  • @SBaby
    @SBaby Před 9 dny

    This is one of the few anime series' where it's worth watching it twice, because you'll get a completely different experience the second time through, but it'll still feel like a new experience. I don't think I've ever seen an anime series do this. Or if it did, it's extremely rare. In any case, I don't think we'll ever get a series like this again.

  • @rushto5476
    @rushto5476 Před 12 dny

    Anime's Breaking Bad

  • @matthewbenedict5923
    @matthewbenedict5923 Před 16 dny

    I didn’t root for anyone watching this show. All of them made me physically sick, mostly cuz I see myself in them

  • @Vonyccc
    @Vonyccc Před 18 dny

    There are no words to begin to describe how amazing this show is. Your video does a good job. My friends who never watched any anime or at least had no interest in watching a "cartoon' in their words. They thought something like game of thrones is the besy show ever. I told them that this show has at least 30 moments of teary eyes, shock, amazement, grief, goosebumps like they had seeing the red wedding. They gave aot a try and they still keep me thanking till this day. Aot is by FAR, the best show, piece of art ever made by human mind ever.

  • @piercepatterson9274
    @piercepatterson9274 Před 25 dny

    Absolute power corrupts absolutely.

  • @theastralarchive9594
    @theastralarchive9594 Před 25 dny

    Hold up, Light wanted to make the world a better place. He just wanted it in his image. This doesn't mean he was lying. Light lied about a lot of stuff to others, but he is a reliable narrator. He is still sane for the majority of the story. Killing people on your trail seems logical, given a strong god-complex and an ironclad sense of your own justice. The alternative is allowing the world to sink back into abject filth and degeneracy. That is unfathomable to Light. If he can't continue, he has failed. He believes the people rallied against him are his enemies, justifiably so. He has a mental breakdown at the very end, but this isn't relevant at the beginning of the story. Light had a VERY strong sense of justice (example of this is when his dad nearly dies and Light --possibly acting but I think the case for this is weak-- freaks out. Clearly he felt strongly for his father, who I believe he saw as the embodiment of "struggling" or "human" justice). He truly believed he was making the world a better place. That's what made him so dangerous. This personality disorder is what drove Light towards his superior ideations, and what made L so damn curious about him. Light was a narcissist and a true believer in Kira's supremacy. L, on the other hand, was a cynical Schizoid, entirely awkward and diametrically opposed to Light in every way. Light's beliefs and motivations were alien to L, who saw them as caricatures of the justice seeker. L's famous monologue about the liar being the most dangerous of all the criminals comes to mind here. L is also a liar, which is why he knows Light is one, and why he doesn't trust a thing the man says. But that doesn't mean he's lying to us, the reader. What we hear/read are the naive thoughts of a narcissist that believes his thoughts can't arrest him. They're the most honest moments of the whole story. Is Light delusional? yes. Is he wrong? I don't know. They're not the same. Whatever the case, Light believed in his authoritarian powers over the governments of the earth. If governments rule by the consent of the people, then Light was justified.

  • @Gumbocinno
    @Gumbocinno Před 29 dny

    "I watched my first anime" My first was SAO, I thought it was a masterpiece. Then I watched more, and realized it was dog shit. Have you expanded on what you've watched? It's just jarring as hell to hear you say that, and follow up by calling it a masterpiece.

  • @E43N
    @E43N Před měsícem

    sometime it feels like it was written from ending to starting

  • @NeoGamemaster
    @NeoGamemaster Před měsícem

    Video begins at 0:40

  • @andylymbo
    @andylymbo Před měsícem

    Honestly this is a great video. Really well done.

  • @xparta300
    @xparta300 Před měsícem

    the last episodes were terrible... little kids catching Light? lmao

  • @Saigeee333
    @Saigeee333 Před měsícem

    Great video. Logan Roy as played by Brian Cox was an enigma. He was just 5 feet 9 inches tall but it was as if he was 15 feet tall.

  • @sambryce321
    @sambryce321 Před měsícem

    Personally for me, I think that anyone who says a 14 year old child solider raised by a violent abuser is an irredeemable monster is kinda fucked up ngl.

  • @robotube7361
    @robotube7361 Před měsícem

    Logan was not a monster. What many people dont realize is that he acted the way he acted around his kids because he already saw them for the disappointments they were. He was honest with themselves many times. He did tell them that they werent serious people and he meant that. He didnt say that because he was manipulating them or was trying to hurt them on purpose. He was being honest with them. He did love them, otherwise he wouldnt have left them so much shares and made them billionaires. He gave all of them chances and they failed miserably and embarrased themselves many times. All of his children did nothing with their lives. They had the means to do anything and yet they all stuck around hoping they would inherit the CEO. It speaks more about their selfishness rather than his.

  • @cadillacdeville5828
    @cadillacdeville5828 Před měsícem

    I legit teared up at the end of season 3 finale. Roman.. that hurt my heart

  • @cadillacdeville5828
    @cadillacdeville5828 Před měsícem

    He definitely lead an eclectic career

  • @natashacrandall9815
    @natashacrandall9815 Před měsícem

    Why can't all the answers he gives Armin at the end be true? People are complicated. More often than not we have multiple reasons for doing the things we do. Aot/Snk doesn't follow the standard trend that a lot of stories do by simplifying the characters or storyboard. It's incredibly realistic in that way. So, I think it's unreasonable to expect Eren's reasoning to be so stale as to have only one true answer.

  • @alpha5664
    @alpha5664 Před 2 měsíci

    Redemption is not something that is deserved, redemption comes from you wanting to change, you wanting to be better. She might achieve that, she might not.

  • @ramuroyals4487
    @ramuroyals4487 Před 2 měsíci

    I watched many animes but death note and monster (2004) are most thrilling animes ever Some episodes in Monster are slow but well defined characters and good storytelling makes it better than other animes

  • @ramuroyals4487
    @ramuroyals4487 Před 2 měsíci

    He would show fake emotion during his fathers death if his father was not honest person

  • @JEMRocker
    @JEMRocker Před 2 měsíci

    It makes me sad to see Kendall so vehemently defend Roman when he sees Logan slap him, only to then see Kendall doing much worse in the form of actively hurting Roman until someone stops him. It’s very heartbreaking to see everything this family has gone through.

  • @user-dn7yq7kg7i
    @user-dn7yq7kg7i Před 2 měsíci

    Yo I hate this video. I thought it would be about how Light is the best. Instead you're talking about all the ways in which Light sucked. What a loser. Somebody please make a video on how great Light is.

  • @uncletbone4420
    @uncletbone4420 Před 2 měsíci

    A good video idea would be the perfect allie since we have the perfect protagonist

  • @diegodiaz8927
    @diegodiaz8927 Před 2 měsíci

    Season 1 was probably one of the best seasons in any series ever.

  • @leightongarcia637
    @leightongarcia637 Před 2 měsíci

    Pretty much the first Prantagonist

  • @amethystb12345
    @amethystb12345 Před 2 měsíci

    I would love to see the Death Note notebook being used in the world of Harry Potter used by Dumbledore with his catch phrase "For the greater good."

  • @AlternateSnake
    @AlternateSnake Před 2 měsíci

    14:43 incredibly wrong not even in hindsight are they "just murderers", Although he eventually started devolving into one. Kira has always had something of a moral code.

  • @AlternateSnake
    @AlternateSnake Před 2 měsíci

    I wish we could see an alternate universe where the Deathnote didn't kill Light on a moral level. I think it would make him a much more compelling protagonist and the whole story would be more interesting if Light actually killed for justice and had his personality intact.

  • @enorma29
    @enorma29 Před 2 měsíci

    AoT might not be the best TV/Movie media there is, but it's definitely the best to REWATCH.

  • @trajanuslarocque7572
    @trajanuslarocque7572 Před 2 měsíci

    I would say he's the main antagonist of the show, L is the protagonist.

  • @1Uni7
    @1Uni7 Před 2 měsíci

    Where can I watch the series?

  • @Finngrinder
    @Finngrinder Před 2 měsíci

    Death Note has an ending that is on a Yu Gi Oh level of asspull. It was impossible that a non native speaker gained access to a bank safety deposit without leaving a trace all the while copying 1000s of Japanese names in a single night, copying a notebook which Mikami controlled under a microscrope. You are gonna tell me that a microscope showed no differences. Yeah, sadly this series has a lot of great ideas and mindgames but is so fatally flawed that its second half is a plain 2/10

  • @padma0007
    @padma0007 Před 2 měsíci

    “I thought it was just about a hero saving the world” Eren actually: Let me do the exact opposite of that , Lemme destroy the world

  • @sarab6237
    @sarab6237 Před 2 měsíci

    U said smtg not all ppl realized it L is also a Monster hes not different from light

  • @brewmaster2912
    @brewmaster2912 Před 2 měsíci

    Does she deserve a redemption? No, most villains don’t. Should she get a redemption? In my opinion, yes. A redemption for Azula wouldn’t really take away much from her arc in the original show, in fact, I believe it’d only add to it. Her breakdown would feel less like an ending and more like an origin story. It could show that no matter how far you’ve gone, with the right help, you could at least have a chance of coming back. Plus, who wouldn’t wanna see Zuko act in a position like Iroh? And quite frankly, an Azula redemption just makes sense for both her character and the themes of ATLA in general. Why wouldn’t Zuko try to help his sister recover and change? Especially with the context of the comics, in those stories, it’s made evidently clear that Zuko is terrified of becoming like his father. Rehabilitating Azula could be the biggest step in him overcoming his fate as Ozai’s successor and help end the cycle of violence in their family once and for all. A redemption for Azula also gives Ursa a chance to redeem herself for never being there for Azula.

  • @Jonas-ob2sh
    @Jonas-ob2sh Před 2 měsíci

    I think your final conclusion that Eren did all of this simply because he wanted to win and be in control is flawed. Eren did the rumbling for multitude of reasons and he compromised on all of them to different degrees. It was partially to save the island/Eldia, to save his friends and make them international heroes by forcing them to kill him, he did it also because he wanted to see the empty unoccupied world he saw in Armin's book by wiping out humanity, he did it because he couldn't bear to to lose anyone close to him ever again by being weak and wanted to be powerful and wipe away his enemies. He did it also because he was simply born crazy and wanted to erase people from the world.

  • @kjkj128
    @kjkj128 Před 3 měsíci

    Eren's excuses before his death made no sense true, but that is what made it make perfect sense to me. He isn't a hero, he isn't after peace, he does want the safety of his friends sure but only if it's not at the cost of his personal goals. He is selfish, broken and downright evil. He can't explain to Armin why he did what he did because he doesn't know himself. He just did it. He was pushing for some vague idea of freedom and power while being too immature and disconnected to actually figure out what those things mean to him. Like he said, he is just some idiot who got his hands on too much power, and once it dawned on him that the world isn't as immature and black-and-white as things are in his own head he lashes out like he always does. The last person who should have this kind of power was Eren Jaeger.

  • @dylanebanks9737
    @dylanebanks9737 Před 3 měsíci

    The King is back, with the video we’ve all been waiting for

  • @deliciousvegans4505
    @deliciousvegans4505 Před 3 měsíci

    This is a stupid Reddit post turned into a CZcams video

  • @tantan6833
    @tantan6833 Před 3 měsíci

    No light is the actual antagonist while L is a true protagonist

  • @AngelDustMyBel0ved
    @AngelDustMyBel0ved Před 3 měsíci

    32:37 I don't agree that this was Eren's final or "real" motivation. I also don't see how his seemingly conflicting motivations are confusing. I feel like it's about as human as a fictional character can get. Eren wasn't written with this ONE motivation. He doesn't have ONE single reason WHY he did the things he did. I think all of it is true at the same time. Did he want to protect his friends, family and homeland, make them heroes and end racism to the best of his abilities? Yes. Definitely. But did he also want revenge on the country that opressed him and his people for their entire lives, level the world until there's nothing but Paradis finally living freely? Also yes. Did he still see every Marlyian as a human like him, not deserving of something like the Rumbling happening to them? Yes. But did he have a primal need and desire to kill them all anyway for no reason? YES. I think it's unjust to narrow Eren's character down to just one thing. His powerlessness is definitely a huge part of his character, but it's not the only one. He does want freedom, he does want safety for his friends, he does want to avenge his mother, all at the same time. - Also I disagree with Eren being an inherently violent person who sees his freedom in conflict and harming other people. When there is conflict, say for example a girl getting kidnapped by three grown men, his first instinct is violence, understandably. But that's not the way he sees freedom. He may not see it like Armin does, Armin's freedom is just HAVING freedom (to see beyond the walls). Eren's freedom is being rid of anything holding him back from the freedom (to see beyond the walls). So, his desire to 'Kill all the Titans' isn't an admission to how violent he is. It literally is the ONLY way to achieve that freedom (of seeing beyond the walls). After he learns that all Titans are humans in Season 3, in the last episode the Scouts encounter a Titan dragging itself towards the walls. While the others want to kill it before it gets there, Eren of all people BEGS them NOT to kill it. His idea of freedom is like Armin's, only with the added realism of HOW to achieve it. - Also?? 33:10 Eren's desire was never to be "the one" of anything, he doesn't want to be famous or admired, he never cared about any of that. He says " *I* want to kill all the Titans", but to him that doesn’t mean HE has to be the one to kill all of them, he just wants all of them dead. It's never about HIMSELF for Eren. If it was, wouldn’t Eren be jealous of everyone else killing Titans? Wouldn’t there be a SINGLE mention of his jealously/respect towards Levi? He never looks at Levi and thinks "I want to be like him!", never. Not once. All he wants is "freedom" (here meaning safety) for his friends and himself. He'll "take away someone else's freedom before they take his away" because he doesn't want to lose his freedom, not because he wants to be on top of something. Plus, I don't think he was the one to create the dictatorship on Paradis. He just made himself the common enemy (not to be fame, but to unite the world), some people loved that and dubbed themselves the Jeagerists, and those people created the dictatorship themselves.

    • @mediaroom4181
      @mediaroom4181 Před 3 měsíci

      Love in depth responses like this. Lets me get more in depth too so imma cover each of your points one by one. 1. This is a common misconception with more complex characters that don't give you direct insight into their true motivation from the beginning. (Like Zuko) That misconception being: characters are humans. They aren't. If you haven't heard that before, I know it may sound dumb. But trying to see characters as real people is bad process. Real people are really really random and unpredictable. And real people's lives are full of random events that just happen for no reason. That's why characters aren't people. And stories aren't real lives. Characters need a core motivation (they can have others but needs a main motivation/belief that drives the core conflict) and things that happen to a character need to be a consequence of their own choices. Even though that's not how real life works. (We do random things for random reasons and random things happens to us for no reason). Real people don't have neatly structured character arcs and inciting incidents. Again we're too random for that. So ending Eren's story with four different motivations for such a drastic choice is just not good writing in my opinion especially when they contradict each other (I did it to protect my friends, Oh I also got my friends killed and constantly put them in immediate danger) 2. The idea isn't that Eren is just inherently violent. It's that he feels weak and violence is his method of lashing out. Armin focuses on seeing the outside world because that's what he genuinely cares about. Eren focuses on removing the people who kept him from seeing the outside world because that's what he genuinely cared about. When Eren saw the outside world, he didn't care and was still focusing on the "enemy". When Eren sees that titan at the end of season three, he doesn't want to kill it, yea. But the reason for that is at that point he now stopped seeing the titans as the enemy. The new enemy was across the sea. That titan was actually a "comrade". It's not because he's not violent, it's because at that point, from his dad's memories, he doesn't see the titans as the threat to his strength anymore. 3. Ironically, he actually does say exactly that. Not to Levi, but to Reiner. In Season one, when Eren was training and wasn't physically able to keep up with the likes of Reiner and Mikasa, he outright says he wants to be like them. "Reiner, how do you do it. How can I be more like you and Mikasa." He never says anything to Levi yea, but that's also because he doesn't meet Levi until after he gets his perfect titan-killing powers. When he was weak he shows jealousy to the ones who were stronger than him in Reiner and Mikasa. You say can they created the dictatorship, not him, but it's very clear he fully let it happen doing nothing to stop it, abused that control he had, got many, many killed from the wine, and did nothing to disband that dictatorship so Paradis can be "free" after his death.

  • @obritoelian9019
    @obritoelian9019 Před 3 měsíci

    Eren's insecurity and not wanting to be weak/victim is an essential part of the character but it's not really the core motivation, or at least it's just saying the same "freedom" thing with another phrasing. Eren believes that all people are special simply because they're born into this world and that didn't come from his mom. He says this in ep 12 and 13 of the first season long before we get to Keith's backstory. It's sort of a reminder of what Eren used to believe since he seemed to have lost it when he came to the realization that he might not be special in any way because of the events in S2 and S3 part 1, he's more humble now but he doesn't really change, he was simply reminded. What happens in S4 is the result of many factors. People keep arguing which is the "real" reason but there is no real reason. In the deepest depths of Eren's heart, he simply wanted to do it. A landscape that he'd freely navigate in, a world he feels like he's owed. Why would this be simply taken away from him in the first place? That's his frustration, however he would never commit to the rumbling if he didn't care for his friends, or if outside of the walls wasn't so harsh and brutal to Eldians. Eren's trapped with a masochist author who positions him in the single worst timeline for him to be in, for all of his flaws to be revealed and it's glorious. Isayama doesn't hold back. Eren is given two other options in the series, Zeke's plan and the 50 year plan, both of which are bad options that don't allow him to keep to his core value that "Everyone is special because they're simply born into this world". Why Eren refuses Zeke's plan is obvious and doesn't need further explanation. The 50 year plan does this by stripping the freedom of the royal bloods away for decades, making the outside world live in constant fear of death, ready to get back at the island. That's how Eren sees it anyway. Armin believes that there is perhaps a chance for peace, Eren refutes this by saying that "What are their misconceptions? People outside the walls think we're people who can turn into monsters, they're not wrong." For Eren, peace won't be achieved unless the curse is lifted, but that wouldn't be enough either. "We have to make sure that they won't be able to touch us." That's eventually what he does on a very large scale. Eren seeing his future is a great plot device to tell us all that we need to know about him. He sees the future and is like "Damn, who wrote this shit, this is out of character for me" but when the time comes to make those decisions, he does exactly what he saw all those years ago. That's what happens with Ramzi and that's the place Eren breaks down. He now understands that what's gonna happen is because of his own desires. He understands himself perfectly at that point. I actually don't really like the ending that much because while his character makes complete sense to me before that, it leaves the audience with a couple of questions. Firstly, how much of the future did he really see in the ceremony? Did he see all of it? He seemed to want to complete the rumbling but knew he'd be stopped at 80%. At what point did he see that? It's also uncharacteristic of him to be all "turn yourself into a monster to unite the world". That's something he doesn't believe in and he states it in S1 in a conversation with Pyxis. You could see it from another angle. He wants his friends to live long lives, so by turning them into heroes, they'll be the safest people on Earth. If everything is to reach Mikasa's choice, then is Mikasa killing Eren the only way for Ymir to be freed and the curse to be lifted? I have no idea. These things were not answered in the manga, and it's the same with the anime. The anime showed Eren's deepest desires more clearly and Armin's response is more appropriate but these questions are still unanswered.