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Josh Nicolet
Registrace 30. 03. 2012
Sailing Hobie Outback in rough conditions
Took out the 2019 Hobie Outback sailing on a lake in Maine. Steady wind and white caps made for some hilarious sailing conditions in a kayak. Found that as long as you're leaning, the boat can't actually flip over at its limit. The rudder gets overpowered by the wind pressure against the sail and the boat pivots into the wind before it will flip. Max speed for the day was 6.2mph.
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Sailing my Hobie Outback
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I've been trying out my new sail kit on a nearby pond in my 2019 Hobie Outback. Winds were in the 10-15mph range and I got up to 5.2mph under just sail power.
Looks great! Like a smaller SunFish. but dryer. I wonder if this will work with my Passport 10.5?
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Hiking looks super awkward in a forward facing seat. It's cool that you can sail a kayak though
Cool video
Just got sail for my passport. 6 months wait as Australian and still waiting for ama.
Installing a pair of stabilisers help
6:27 What are you using to wrap it up auto like that?
Lots of fun , I tip my kayak over when a strong gust of wind caught me by surprise and I didn’t let go of the sheet so over I went , I even had the inflatable side amada . I couldn’t flip it over in the water because of the inflatable side stabilizer kept me from flipping it over . I had to be a rescue, I learned a big lesson to keep an eye out for strong wings .
I thought your mast was going to snap in half a couple times. Lol
I did that and flipped the kayak even with the side floaters . A strong gust of wind caught me by surprise and I didn’t let go of the sheet and tipped me over like a piece of paper . Learned my lesson and I’m now more cautious and realize that a strong wind can topple you over very easily if your are not careful.
During high wind, He should open only half sail to prevent surprise gust wind can flip the kayak. It is too risky with full sail open like that
did you break the mast when you flip over? I've been wondering how well these fiberglass rod handle the stress of a flip and roll.
I must be missing something.....just doesn't look like that much fun....too much effort to keep the boat upright. I have to sit w/my backside hanging off the seat....
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Sailing is fun, cool video Josh.
Love it! Look up mods that allow you to control how much sail you let out-helps a ton when winds kick up. Usually requires running a sheet to the opposite side of the main sheet (line) secured with a cleat. Wife and i purchased a proangler and outback in 2014 for fishing and exploring. Now all we do is sail them!
Wear the lifejacket.
Epic.
Lifejack behind him and not on him is not the right thing to do. Doesn't matter if he can swim.
Roll in some of your sail when the when picks up a bit to much, Furling in the sail its called. It will be easier to control.
How fast does it go with the sail
I've gotten it past 6mph in certain conditions but 4-6mph has been the average cruising speed for me.
I can do upwards to 4-mph with paddles. I would think wind speed and water conditions have significant impact
How much does the sail cost?
You should be WEARING a your life vest my friend. Safety first.
I need one now what should I get for my tamarack 100 fishing yak
Killed it man what lake you in
You had me laughing at your jibe at approx. 1:42!
So entertaining! I’ve been sailing a Hobie 16 for over 20 years and miss it so much 😞 I just got a 2007 Hobie Mirage Outrigger bare. So now I have to build it up and OF COURSE, the first thing will be a sailing kit with a furler. You can’t fly a hull on this but watching you gave me a whole new realm of excitement. Any tips on adjusting mine from a double kayak sailing it solo?
Thanks Naomi! I don't know much about your 2007 model so I'm afraid I don't have any tips to share. With the sailing experience you already have I think you'll do great finding a way to make everything work. Sailing a kayak is slower than a purpose-built sail boat but it brings along its own element of fun with it. Best of luck and enjoy your time out there!
Looks so fun. Great clip
They need a rudder for the passport....merely a slip on over the original with a velcro strap
What is the difference between the outback and the passport?
Looks awesome! Just a little worrying about back pains later....?
I bought the Hobie Passport and would love all the Accessories but i think I could easily double the price of the boat on them
Also when are they going to make a larger rudder? It has to be simple for them to make a slide on adapted rudder. It simply slides over the stock rudder. Make it quick
www.hobie.com/parts-and-accessories/items/large-sailing-rudder-blade,2218/
@@bennettcasey4895 It will not fit the passport models.
What is the difference betwee the outback and the passport? Do you think the outriggers are a good idea?
I don't know much about the passport. I'm sure there are some good reviews out there that cover the differences though. As far as outriggers are concerned, I decided to try out the sail kit without them and then add them later if I felt I needed them. At this point, I won't be getting them as I feel I already have enough stability for the conditions I'll be in. I think this comes down to personal preference as some people might feel more comfortable with the outriggers.
@@joshnicolet524 thank you.
I have the Hobie Pro Angler 14 did you just add the Furler Kit and Sail to make it work?
Hey David, I have the Hobie sail kit, Hobie Furler kit, a small block (pulley) on the rear and a cleat to hold the sail in place to give my hand a rest. I've been really happy with this set up.
Hey Josh how did the Furler Kit work for you, any input?
I highly recommend it. I think Hobie did a great job with their kit and I have no reason to switch to anything else. I had thought about trying my first season without the furler kit but I'm glad I got it right away. I followed Hobie's installation video very carefully and I had no problems when using it last season.
cool video Josh!!! hey I just got my sailing Kit but I would like to add a block like you have in the back, can you link a description or guide me in the right direction? and also what size cleat did you get? cheers man keep them coming
Hey Joan, I bought the block on Amazon. You could probably make a bunch of different blocks work just as well but here's the one I went with. I think the cleat was just an extra I had, not sure what it is but again, I think you could make a number of things work fine: www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002NSSCF2/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I added the inflatable AMA's to my 2020 Compass. They really help when sailing in higher winds.
you need to make a simple PVC furling device- makes all the difference
Love passive aggressive replies like yours.
@@inikolov not sure I understand? The furler device will make a huge difference and make it much easier to sail. You can make one for about $4 out of PVC. I loved sailing my Outback and soon after had no choice but to step up to an AI. It’s addicting!!
@@grantdelorenzo517 I am saying, you mention that it is simple device but post no link, give no instructions. It sounds to me like - meh you idiots figure it out, I am good.
@@grantdelorenzo517 Can you post some pictures to show what you have made to work?
Here’s one with instructions. Main thing is a furling device and then having the sail line come back at you so that you can control the tension.
Nice you got up to 6+ mph with the winds..
That was cool. I've been considering getting a Kayak. The Hobie Outback sure seems like a great choice for fishing since you can paddle with your feet or add a sail. Thanks for sharing that.
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First time I took my new Compass out, I took the sail and Sidekicks with me. I had a great time. You can easily submerge the Sidekicks in strong conditions, but I did not flip it.
Just curious, do you remember what wind speed you were in?
sailing is fun
Awesome! Been sailing my dune an awful lot myself. Sure is fun. Boat handles nicely.
Instablaster.
Did you ever push it to the limit and tip over? Good video, thanks for sharing. I have an Outback and have thought about the sail for playing around when fishing is slow.
Thanks! I've posted a few more recent videos on larger water/heavier winds and found out that as long as you're leaning properly, the 2019 Outback seems unlikely to flip (in my experience at least). If the wind gets too strong, the sail/bow tries to pull itself into facing the wind which takes the pressure off the sail. When this happens, the rudder is overwhelmed and starts to slide sideways through the water until the sail pressure is reduced and the rudder can steer the boat again. If the rudder was larger, it would probably keep tracking straight and eventually flip. This seems to happen at around 5.5mph which is fast enough for me. I love having the sail for fishing, it's fun and it can get you to further fishing locations with no effort.
I put our kick stands in the front hatch. That way if I loose 1, we have a back up plan.
Awesome. Thank you
Love the sound effects!! 😁
Enjoyed your video & especially the sound effects from you - lol. I've done what you are doing, as I have a Dagger Exodus with KayakSailor sail & genoa. It's hairy when the wind gets up & tries to blow you over from the side; lean into the wind, lean, lean more, more, bloody hell! Lol. I cheat these days as I've made two outriggers to use on really windy days kayaking in the North Sea. Going for a kayak sail tomorrow. Regards, JohnnyK from the UK.
Glad you enjoyed it, thanks for the comment! It's a lot of fun sailing a small kayak as you know. Enjoy yourself out there!
Wow! Great sailing!
great job Josh