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It’s probably a tie between him and Orr

Yeah, but now top guys are getting paid $10+million a year. Lemieux got paid $1.5M in '88. Inflation adjusted that'd be about $3.3M. I am sure guys back then would skate on ads all day long if you tripled their pay!

yeah but goalies back then were much taller.

Hard to compare different eras. Today training, conditioning, technology, strategy is so much better. I totally agree with you that the holding and hooking where so bad back then, and worse in the 90s. It was perfectly acceptable to just be water skiing behind a guy.

Well the presumption is that if Lemieux was a playing in this era, he too would be doing all the training and off season stuff just like every other player.

Ewerybody is saying that is a different era that is just bullshit jagr was pretty damn good even 2018 when he was 46 years old lloolll LEMIEUX would have been exactly so unbelivebel much better then al The rest even now there is no question about that at al llooll

Get off his knob lmao 😭

Goalies can also stop the puck now

It is, it's correct - the announcers, one of them, said it. It didn't happen but it was said.

I disagree. Crosby and McDavid def are. Eras matter.

You are right, eras matter. Lemieux played in an era with clutching, hooking, slashing and so on. Watch one of Lemieux's games and you will be able to count 2-4 penalties a shift against him. If you put a 6'5, 240 pound Lemieux in todays game where they cant do half the things to him that they use to. He'd regularly have 200+ point seasons. ​@chelious1973

@@mfornelos I watched Lemieux whole career. Watched almost every game. Grew up in Pittsburgh and lived there until 2003. Did you watch him? Watched Gretzky, lemieux, Crosby, and McDavid. No Lemieux wouldn’t put up 200pts in todays game. Its a much harder league to score in. I agree on Lemieux on how great he is. Yes, if healthy some of Gretzkys records would have fallen. But you cannot equate more powerplays with a automatic uptake in point totals. Yes power-play points are more plentiful. But 5v5 scoring is way down from Lemieux’s hey day.

@@chelious1973 you think crosby is on the same level as Lemieux and Gretzky? There's no way crosby is a top 3 player all time lol

@@xx11xx11xx I don’t think so, i know so. In my opinion the dead puck era had some dangerous hitting also. Moroso than the 80s due to the crackdown on fighting. I watched Gretzky, Lemieux, Crosby, and now McDavids whole careers. Just missed Orrs so I cannot speak on him. Saw him some at the end there but that's about it. Those five guys are considered the modern day generational talents. You might be able to put Bedard there but we will see. Crosby compares very well with those mentioned. On par would be a understatement. Crosby in his prime averaged 1.61 ppg for his three prime years in the dead puck era. That is incredible. What would a 25 year old Crosby do in todays NHL where scoring is much easier to come by? People forget Crosby missed his three prime years with injury where he was on pace for a couple 130-140 pt seasons. He averaged 1.68ppg at his peak in a much lower scoring era. Adjusted for era that would equate to 150-160pts in todays NHL. If he did would this even be a argument? Orr put Crosby on the same level as Orr, Lemieux, Gretzky, Howe. Said he belongs in that group. Who are we to argue with him? Crosby at 25 had a career ppg of 1.42ppg in a much lower scoring era. McDavid now sits at 1.50 ppg. Adjusted for era Crosby is slightly higher at 1.51ppg. At his peak his ppg was at 1.68ppg. McDavid is at 1.88. Adjusted for era it would be 1.91 in todays NHL. What would these guys do in the 1980s? Destroy that is what they would do. Utterly and completely. It would be like an Alien was on the ice from another planet. Era matters. People forget how dominant Crosby was at his peak. I sure dont. Adjusted for era is the only way you can get a clear comparison from players from different eras. The Athletic did a 99 poll where they put Crosby 4th all time in the modern era, or post 1967. They adjusted each players projected wins and adjusted ppg averages. Lemieux was at 1.65ppg, Gretzky was at 1.61 ppg, McDavid was at 1.51 and Crosby at 1.47 ppg with Orr coming in at 1.36ppg. No one player is even close to these five in ppg. Crosby if not for injury would most likely have 10 one hundred point seasons by now. Three or more 130-140 pts seasons included. This is in the dead puck era. His 1.61 ppg peak is more than 25 percent higher than his next closest competition. Which was Malkin at 1.2ppg. He was on pace for 130-140 pt seasons while Malkin and Ovechkin was on pace for 100. Sedin won that year with 104pts, Crosby was on pace for 140. That is a 30-40 pt difference. For 3 years straight. Comparable to the way Gretzky and Lemieux dominated at their peaks. And Crosby plays a much more complete 200ft game. Five Crosbys would defeat five Gretzkys 10 out of 10 times due to Crosbys defensive game. There is that aspect to consider. Gretzky was the best passer, Lemieux scorer and Crosby with his 200 ft game. His ability to cycle down low and anticipate the play is un matched. His hand eye is also the best I have ever seen. And that includes Gretzky and Lemieux.

Maybe if you spelled Mario's name correctly.

Practically. Looked it up. He had a 3.5 Points Per Game average against them. 49 points in 14 games. Crazy.

BETTER THEN AL THE REST

Prime Kovalev was incredible!

I seen him... This guy was one of the very best but only 20 games a year 🤷

The most talented duo in hockey history