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Quite a nice inspiration from "Vuyo's" story...

that includes the ANC.....they have already sidelined the "intention" agreement signed!

Very simplistic. I am not even interested in reading the book. The interview explains his approach. And settler colonialism? It just disappears just like that? The 'Blacks' have now created 'a history' since 1994 that is read outside of the forces that work against the emergence of the very idea of 'a state' of south africa, post-colonial and apartheid.

SA hasn't been more unstable. We need an honest debate regarding how we got to the current instability. The 2 parties who caused it, the governing party and the official opposition party, now partners in a GNU, now want to convince us somehow that they can save us. Utter bulldust.

Prof Raymond Sutner makes a valid point when he says Blacks in this country almost find themselves in the similar situation of the apartheid era. In 1994 apartheid was not eradicated in its entirety. It is against this background that the ANC proposed the National Democratic Revolution as a vehicle to completely eradicate apartheid. The National Democratic Revolution has not taken off the ground. Even if it were to take off the ground it would still be labeled as being in favor of Blacks just like the Affirmative Action and the Truth and Reconcilliation the former having been described by White counterparts as reversed discrimination and the latter having been described in the same vein as witch hunt. The feasible route to eradicate the remnants of apartheid in my opinion will be through National Dialogue as proposed by Former President Thabo Mbeki and as supported by President Cyril Ramaphosa. 😮

What if there were no Europeans in Africa

The Recces were made great by the Rhodesian Special forces such as the Selous Scouts, Rhodesian SAS...... Even that Recce cap badge has a swlous scout emblem as cap badge.

As a black person coming from the township and a village I firmly believe that Thabo Mbeki was on the right track and I think that his intellect was his greatest enemy and as a result of that he expected everyone to understand the politics of the ANC and the state the way he does, coming to the cadre deployment I mean no governing party can trust other parties in strategic positions for service delivery and therefore you needed people from your party that are multi skilled, efficient and competent, that is the kind of bureaucracy you need which Thabo Mbeki did. What matters to Mbeki was substance not sound bites, I'm told that from his own camp or faction nobody was interested in challenging the then deputy president and to save the face of the ANC and the black people in general he had to challenge him not as a result of being power hungry or corrupt . In fact the constitution of the ANC doesn't talk about two terms of serving in the organization. He was ahead of his colleagues,

All of my friends bought your book, it's thought provoking. Your book,Dr Neil Barnard and Rev Chikane are like my Bible especially yours Mark ,if you want to know about South Africa, I read the book about Mandela's biography written by Martin Meredith but yours it's a popular demand

When are you going to give it up? Anc is finished. Put your energies into something worthwhile. The knysna rhing worked out well didnt it?

Then the WHOLE COUNTRY would be a GRAVEYARD !!!

I never used yo like it because I lost sclot 9f money with it. But such education Arise South Africa President Mpho Dagada, it's a jawbreaker, and if we had such knowledge would have put us in a better position.

Excellent statement of truth. SOBUKWE hived off the ANC because he discovered that the ANC was off the mark. The equating of the EUROPEANS with the BLACKS and creating parity between the two is GROSS. The ANC lacked strategy when it entered the 1994 SETTLEMENT. The NATIONAL PARTY dealt with MANDELA in isolation of the external wing of the ANC. The STELLENBOSCH MAFIA worked on the internal wing of the ANC and pushed its PROTEGES such as CYRIL RAMAPHOSA to the fore with NELSON MANDELA'S approval. The removal of Jacob Zuma and Thabo Mbeki from their front positions as the negotiators in the CODESSA talks is an example. Oliver Tambo was already crippled and his decisions were thrown out. The NATIONAL PARTY and NELSON MANDELA'S choice for Vice President was CYRIL RAMAPHOSA. HENCE when the ANC pushed Thabo Mbeki instead CYRIL RAMAPHOSA left the scene altogether taken under the wings of his MASTERS who gave him money and a stake in their MINING sector to nurture him for the rainy day. Mantashe, Motlante were part of that mining conglomerate. See where they are today. Thabo Mbeki was himself never radical. He is a firm believer in Neoliberalism. His study of ECONOMICS in the UK convinced him that the BRITISH way was the path to go. He doesn't believe in the transformation of the SOUTH AFRICAN economy. He believes the nonsense that the market forces and "good governance" is the only and holy way to go. He differs with President Jacob Zuma on these matters. Still stuck to the regressive ANC FREEDOM CHARTER ideals even when the facts on the ground show all over the Western world the banality of NEOLIBERALISM. For this reason, and ironically, the ANC has been disproved as it now stands on the side of the RICH BILLIONAIRES against the poor. Hence the palpable ANGER of the people. The SACP is in bed with the ANC fighting on the side of CAPITAL. Evidently SOBUKWE stands VINDICATED today and we now know and understand why he was treated differently with a LAW designed just for him. The SOBUKWE clause has now been reeled against PRESIDENT JACOB ZUMA for the same reason, to contain him and detract from the truth. The Judiciary and the MAIN STREAM MEDIA have been used to vilify ZUMA and destroy him in the eyes of the uninitiated because he has the might which trained against foreign CAPITAL has the ability to dislodge it and bring the poor people onto the table. CYRIL RAMAPHOSA is now out and out working harder for his MASTERS. THE ANC is at a difficult juncture and as the contradictions grow so does it's CLOUT and whatever credibility is left of it diminish. These elections will be a game changer. Hopefully.

I think this is a misrepresentation of the history of the ANC by Raymond Suttner. When the ANC was formed in 1912, it was portrayed as representing the African Parliament and it was destined to take a shape of a British parliament with two houses namely House of Lord's and House of Commons. Addressing the first delegates to the founding conference of the ANC on 8 January 1912; Pixley ka Isaka Seme said the following " Chief of the Royal Blood and Gentlemen of our race..." Right at the beginning it was envisaged that the ANC would end up being a Political Party in Parliament. Having taken strides of a Liberation Movement in its journey was historically vital.

When revolution dies, corruption rises. Lawlessness creeps in. Easily they forget the original goal.

That is what caused Zuma to rebel. The revolution is dead. Being a party officials become career muse.

I was in Pretoria as a young civic activist. But given the lack sophistication, it's understandable that the illiterate masses were not involved. However the lack of mass activity is criminal and fraudulent

Joe Slovo his daughter 👀 on hard talk she must remember there is two sided of s coin , stop revenge.in your heart against the apartheid regime z you looking for self pity stop doing that, and come live here and then talk.,.you .make as if apartheid was so terrible, lots , you dramating .everything are you hiding behind the past , stop. your revenge heart , are you .appreciated. today ? Not at all, none of you are so remembered any more we also had hard times under other nations in SA

Thank you!

Yooo I am fond of Basetsane Kumalo, she is beautiful, eloquent, intelligent and successful. Believing in paying it forward makes me love you more girl.❤❤❤ You are a true inspiration sisi. May God profusely bless you and your family. Your family and South Africa are blessed to have a woman of your calibre. You have touched on PHD syndrome, a demon attacking women terribly. I always say PHD is a demon that has to be discussed at women conferences. As women, we will not go anywhere if we allow PHD stand in our way. We have to stand as a united front. Big ups to you Basie and your achievements.❤❤

May our God bless you more and more

*Excellent analysis. Looking forward to reading this work. **#AzaniaRising*

God bless her, her dad was a super hero and she is also a super hero imbokodo she amazing, beautiful, gorgeous i like her personality wise😭💯💪🏾❤️❤️

#DirectElections #LiberateSA

Thanks for this. He has some very sensible ideas! I cannot find SUN's website or manifesto. I look forward to Politys coverage of all emeging parties. Especially the ground-breaking Organic Humanity Movement.

We don't need "Leaders" We need Representatives...

ANYONE WHO THINKS THAT GOVT CAN CREATE JOBS IS SERIOUSLY MISGUIDED. anYONE WO VOTES FOR SOMEONE whO pROMISES to Create Jobs is INSANE

Why don't we ask politicians who their funders are and wat these funders want in return? That is how we find out what they stand for.

The collapse of education, insrastucture and everyhing else is deliberate, and worldwode. Do your research. FYI She's a man

turn you phone arond, please. i am watchinh on a bi gscreen and this is wierd...

Awesome book, loved it. 1SSB 89/90.

I have just completed my new book called: Crimes Against Children South Africa, which I am praying Penguin will publish. Well done to Karl Kemp on his new book, a topic much needed!

one of the things wrong with our democracy is that it is not one; mob rule, i.e. the party system is not democratic

Jono dear heart, What is the difference between lies and "deceptions maybe"?

I trust that all the newcomers will be given equal airtime, @PolitySA

I look forward to interviews with emerging parties. We are tired of this. Sashnee, you can afford to be more interrogative. Read up before the interviews and challenge what they say.

The notion that the education of our childen is a pipeline is 100% dehumanizing especially considering how many fall out of the "System"

Every nation is having problems exporting and importing. It's the plan: "You will own nothing and be happy" as Kaus Schwab, WEF mogol, says. CT is papered with cameras and that bodes ill for freedom.

Gosh that pariamentary lunch trough shows it's effects! A real and permanenet and functional socail safety net is one where people have the land to become self sufficient. The DA confiscated the paltry goods of homeless Capetonians and arrested them! Selling off ZAs assets to corporates is social suicide. The party system is the seed of corruption. #DirectElections.

@17 minutes Blame history, why don't you? We threw away every opportunity we got in 1994!

When are people going to stop voting for Promises? "The ANC is there to maintain the illusion that Apartheid will never come back," as a wise woman recently said. I look forward to seeing ALL the Emerging Parties being interviewed. As to the NHI Bill, if you do your homework on wikileaks you will find the first draft - funded by the Gates Foundation!!!

The thing AI wont change is that humans die in it. The numbers will just increase...

Thinking war is natrual (when it is Bankster driven) is as insane as believing that evolution means Survival of the Fittest. The only thing that leaders in war understand is cannon fodder. How to fight a war? First recognise that you are in one: Your govts, banks, corporations, legal and educational systems consider you the enemy. SO do the UN/NATO/WEF/IMF/WB/WHO and etc ad infinitum. Learn self sufficiency!

When the Organic Humanity Movement gets a seat, it will start livestreaming the lunch banquets so the obese who gorge at the trough are exposed. They will persuade individuals that Party Politics only serves the (corporate) parties, not the people. We need to change the system! #LiberateSA

Is that Michael Jackson?

This grannies are tired shame! Anc is not corrupt 🤔

Vote DA save South Africa 👍, ANC is corrupt. No vote for ANC.

ANC.... In its death throes....

3:18 we are not corrupt. Renewal starts with admitting your faults. That is why you will get under 40%.

Great job!! Thank you so much for writing about this legend bhut' Bongani! And, thank you for the interview sis' Sane! Sinom'lando omuhle futhi omude futhi esingay'qhenya ngawo.