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Highlights of the Aristotle-Confucius Symposium in Athens (2023)
Talks by Jeffrey Sachs (United Nations SDSN and Columbia University), Hui WANG (Tsinghua University), Bryan W. Van Norden (Vassar College) and others are among these highlights of the first three sessions at the Aristotle-Confucius Symposium on Ethics for the Twenty-First Century, held at the Academy of Athens 3-8 July 2023.
Session I: Introduction to Confucius and Aristotle
Jeffrey Sachs (Columbia University) 00:00:12
Yong LI (Wuhan University) 00:34:20
Session II: Historical Legacy of Ancient Chinese & Greek Wisdom
Bryan Van Norden (Vassar College) 00:48:54
Cancan LIAO (Wuhan University) 00:59:20
Hui WANG (Tsinghua University) 01:06:57
Cathay Liu (National University of Singapore) 01:16:47
Discussion 01:26:28
Session III: Individual Freedom, Collective Responsibility
Matthew Walker (National University of Singapore) 01:41:13
Tao JIANG (Rutgers University) 01:50:35
Justin Tiwald (University of Hong Kong) 01:58:52
Qian CAO (Columbia University) 02:08:06
Winnie Sung (Nanyang Technological University) 02:15:17
Yanhua WEI (Confucius Research Institute) 02:24:34
Discussion 02:33:44
Session I: Introduction to Confucius and Aristotle
Jeffrey Sachs (Columbia University) 00:00:12
Yong LI (Wuhan University) 00:34:20
Session II: Historical Legacy of Ancient Chinese & Greek Wisdom
Bryan Van Norden (Vassar College) 00:48:54
Cancan LIAO (Wuhan University) 00:59:20
Hui WANG (Tsinghua University) 01:06:57
Cathay Liu (National University of Singapore) 01:16:47
Discussion 01:26:28
Session III: Individual Freedom, Collective Responsibility
Matthew Walker (National University of Singapore) 01:41:13
Tao JIANG (Rutgers University) 01:50:35
Justin Tiwald (University of Hong Kong) 01:58:52
Qian CAO (Columbia University) 02:08:06
Winnie Sung (Nanyang Technological University) 02:15:17
Yanhua WEI (Confucius Research Institute) 02:24:34
Discussion 02:33:44
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Mr Moderator, Professor Sachs exposed in a nutshell the diabolical nature of the white American imperialism in just 5 minutes. The cat's out of the bag. You're way too late to shut him off! 😡😡😡😡
Thank you for posting such an amazing lecture! Mengzi and Mozi. Mozi is practical but Mengzi is the Second Sage of the East.
This was awesome! Fascinating and hugely informative. Re the first questioner …. There is a psychosis called parasitosis, a psychiatric condition, involving the delusional sensation of insects crawling all over one’s body. Was diagnosed with it. Treatable.
Mahayana, should not be called buddhism. If buddha did not teach it.- it is something else, thats ok. But dont call it. buddhism
Hi, Prof. Norden. I'm studying Mengzi in class, but I'm still confused about 「自賊者也;謂其君不能者,賊其君者也。」What does 賊 mean here in English instead of "steal"? probably "damage"?
I think it almost means "underestimate" or "demean."
From where does the last chapter (chapter 8 ) start ?
Liars hate the TRUTH. The TRUTH hurts and many oppose it and will do anything to keep you from hearing it. A hog loves filth and those who hide truth dwell in filth. It takes boldness and courage to speak TRUTH. Those who protect lies are cowards and weak.
what a brave man
are some Daoist plant base /vegetarian ...?
All is one is the wool being pulled over your eyes by the snake. Only fools believe in a single force of complete power omnipresent and cruel god who sends both good and evil. The Cathars represent the Gnostic denial of false unity consciousness (the wool pulled over your eyes.) which is the illusion that their is one all powerful cruel god controlling everything when in fact the Good Creator Amen Ra (which means the Light From Stars) and Osiris (father of man)is battling for our souls with Seth (Satan)and Apophis (the 7 headed dragon). Satan and the Dragon-snake.
I'm watching this series as an introduction to Chinese Philosophy , and I'm gaining much more insight than I was anticipating. Thank you for making these videos - they deserve much more attention than they have received so far.
In Japan, Confucianism is often vilified as one school of thought that has done a lot of harm to the integrity of Japan and still continues to exert undesirable influences to the people's ideological background. I bought into that idea so I've been blindly against anything Confucianism especially the ethics even though, as you've pointed out, it comes in different flavours. This is a fascinating lecture and is making me reconsider the way I look at Confucianism. Thank you.
What a disgrace of a moderator and simply not of the same calibre and intellect of his guests.
He should have been given an English name "kown Fu Tsie"
It is rather confusing!
Eric Clapton played guitar on "While my guitar gently weeps"
Thank you professor Van Norden , Very clear delivery and Im grateful for the summary - structure and spirit - this is only the second lecture of yours which I have watched But I look forward to the opportunity to following some of the others - you had mentioned the separation between Confucianism and Buddhism that Neo Confucianism bridges but I’m curious to know more about the conceptual idealogical premise for these differences and the their alignments? 🙏 thank you
Thank you for your kind words!
(Its pronounced "Yee Szhing")
That was fascinating. My own projection onto the 13:3 passage is that it is, at one level, an injunction to rationality, on the principle that one cannot have moral order without intellectual order.
Deeply grateful - although I am aware of Confucius and have read the Analects - your lucid delivery has really put his life and the Analects into perspective - I wish I’d been introduced to his work so concisely when I was younger 🙏
Thank you for your kind words!
Do you know how to play go?
Thank you
How delightful! I appreciate your lectures
Thank you Professor❤
Nice talk thank you
Neo Confucians sounds just like taoism when it comes to explaining reality
TY for posting your lectures, benefiting humanity.🙏
Midel figer relgion
Dr.Sachs gets cut off for telling the truth
Another opportunistic misrepresentation of cores of Confucius.
Can you give an example of a misrepresentation?
@@BryanVanNordenPhilosophy he misquoted or twisted kongzi's words intended to mean human nature should gravitate towards benevolent, compassion and kindness, into that kongzi preached that origins of human nature is benevolent, kind and good, which kongzi never insinuated.
Sadly, Zhu Xi had some major flawed thoughts, had made his name associated with 猪糞。He had introdiced major corruption of Confucius ideology, he twisted the observation of the goodness of human nature into the belief that human nature is good erroneously ! Then he had been used to legitimize dictatorship, and had poisoned the Chinese minds for over à thousand years.
This was good. And you can actually pronounce Chinese, so I know your research and commentary come from a viewpoint of honest interest. That's my litmus test - it's like a proof of applied integrity. Edit - didn't like the Schrodinger's cat part. You could ask a physicist about that. But overall I really liked the presentation.
Very informative and cogent. Thank you very much.
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The 5 Skandhas do not refer to elements that constitute the "universe", but rather, the experiences we have that create or make up our sense of "I", "ego", or "self". The skandhas relate to how we conceive/form our sense of "self", not the "world" per se. For instance, we experience rupa (things, environment, etc) and attach to it, forming a sense of ourselves as we identify with those things/situations. We have physical sensations and feelings (vedana) and identify with them, creating a sense of our ego. We have various mental perceptions (samjna) of the world and environment and attach to it, forming a sense of ourselves as we identify with it. We have our opinions, beliefs, likes and dislikes (samskara), and attach and identify with it, forming a sense of our ego. We have the underlying consciousness that is aware of all these things, and we attach to it, forming a sense of our self. These are gradations of experience from gross to subtle, that we attach to and identify with, that ultimately inform and create our "ego." But otherwise, enjoying your informative lectures.
The Skanhas are interpreted in different ways by different sects of Buddhism. The way that I explain them is more in line with Theravadan teachings. Your explanation is more in line with some versions of Mahayana.
So after working on keeping the country safe for years, I can’t take a week off to relax with my new dancing girls?
15:00 "the pathways of right and wrong are snarled" Tao Te Ching - without wrong there would be no right. Chuang talked about using no-finger to point to finger.
There is a line of inquiry among scholars as to whether Laozi preceded Chuangzi or vice versa..I am sure that the philosophical concept of Tao was not original to Lao or Chuang. Taoism can be thought of as an evolutionary extension of shamanism...
Sachs clearly favors the Chinese & Russian form of Govt. In his interview w Piers Morgan,when asked, as an Amrrican, he could not,curiously, say of anything good or positive of/by the US..Forums like this should have other guests who may have other alternative views,for balanced programming.
Really loved your mencius audiobook. I dont have such an audiobook to my knowledge in korea 😅, though there are books. Anyway constantly listening to it, and even in a confucian country in korea, i know more about mencius than any of my peers or elders, as a newzealander myself.
The use of yarrow stalks makes it a plant-spirit communication-divination-magic…. -Gordon White
40:49 -“you’re not a crafty person”. You’re a craftsman of words.
Your videos are excellent!
Davidson @ about 48:00
BA in Religious Studies and a Masters in Religion here and these are genuinely the best lectures on the subject matter I've come across! One thing I'm still trying to figure out: I've heard the idea that the extreme realms (heaven and hell) are upaya before but what I can't figure out is whether or not that is a fairly standard opinion among practicing Buddhist philosophers/leaders traditionally or is that more of a modern development? Is it sort of like Plato's Noble Lie or an evolution of Buddhist teachings?
Thank you for your kind words! I think most lay Buddhists and even many monks and nuns think the stories of heavens and hells are literally true, but more sophisticated thinkers in the traditions know they are upaya. In fairness, I think most practicing Christians are confused about matters of theology that experts at the Vatican (say) would correct them on.
@@BryanVanNordenPhilosophy makes sense to me! Thank you!
Here is the definition of democracy: Democracy is a system of government where power is vested in the people, either directly or through elected representatives. It emphasizes equality, participation, and accountability within the political process. Key features include free and fair elections, protection of individual rights, and a system of checks and balances to prevent the concentration of power.
If you do something long enough you will eventually be skillful in it. That's no brainer.
Pardon my ignorance, but didn't Siddhartha Guatama teach, that once someone reaches enlightening, that they end their journey. As in they live no longer? If so, doesnt that imply Buddha etc are no longer in existence after they pass away? Again, I am learning. So bare with me.
We don't know what Siddhartha Gautama taught. We only know what later people say he taught. Most have said that enlightenment does not lead to immediate death.
Mic drop. Logic is ok. Thank you sir.
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The answer, to after samsara, is out there, but they hide it. -// for what it's worth, I think the small stuff matters, therfore God is in all things.
From Argentina! 🫂 Thank you very much Bryan! Your full lectures on Philosophy are so incredibly good! So pedagogically inspiring! Much love to all!! Muchas Gracias!!
22:20 "There has to be something real, in the sense of independently existing" - Independent of what, of everything? If that is the case, I am with the metaphysical view that there is only one thing. Otherwise you will always find some dependency...