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The Sloane Age is a podcast about Wolverhampton, its people and history, brought to you in association with The Wolverhampton Society.
Lost Pioneers: Wolverhampton's Victorian Jewish Community
This is a free lecture from myself, Andy Sloane, on the pioneers who founded Wolverhampton's Jewish Community, its synagogue, burial ground and school.
Originally presented in 2019, this is traditionally a paid lecture I offer for local groups and societies, but which I am making available for free due to the ongoing isolation effects of Corona Virus (Covid-19).
Originally presented in 2019, this is traditionally a paid lecture I offer for local groups and societies, but which I am making available for free due to the ongoing isolation effects of Corona Virus (Covid-19).
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Using a Free Government Service to Research Your Family Tree!
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The General Records Office in the UK is a repository for ordering birth, marriage and death certificates, as well as other important documents, such as passports. But you can also use it as a free, powerful tool to find long lost ancestors in your family tree. If you know all the background, skip to around the 5 minute mark to get cracking!
Brave Tales 1: James Bridges
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Brave Tales is a series which records deeds from the past which could be considered brave or heroic. Many examples are lost to the sands of time and this series attempts to bring these back to life. In episode 1, a young boy tries to save his playmate from a fire whilst out playing in an abandoned house.
Video Special: A Trip to the Jewish Burial Ground in Wolverhampton
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In 1851, the Duke of Sutherland granted a small plot of land in Wolverhampton for use by the Jewish community as a cemetery. A prayer hall (Ohel), area for washing bodies (Bet Tahara) and surrounding walls were added later in the Victorian era. The building is now in substantial decline, but a project to secure its future commences in 2019. Please contact the Wolverhampton Society for more deta...
The Sloane Age Ep.2 Quintin Watt
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In this episode, I meet secretary of the Wolverhampton Society, Quintin Watt. We discuss the importance of local societies, how to get young people involved in local history and even the dreaded word, "brexit" comes up!
The Sloane Age Podcast Ep. 1 - Roy Stallard
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In this first episode, I talk to hospital historian, Roy Stallard, about his work in putting together a hospital museum for Wolverhampton's hospital history. We run through the long and storied history of medicine and hospitals in Wolverhampton, from the Queen Street dispensary to the Royal Hospital and the specific eye and women's hospitals. To round things off, Roy tells me about his long and...
Sadly, it seems The Gro index online shows that the years from 1957 to 1984 is missing.
A trick i learned from somewhere is just to check the nearest 05 and 10 dates with +/-2 years. If you use those all the time its less likely you will make a mistake in putting the correct year in. Ive found it helpful.
You can now purchase a digital copy of a certificate for £1.50, which is available immediately.
I think you've confused 2 services. Digital images of most birth and death certificates is £2.50 per image and available online as soon as payment is made.. If you have a poor result you can contact them and they refund your payment and amend the options to exclude that option. However if you want a digital copy of a probate which includes the will that is £1.50 and takes several days to be available .
Is that for English certificates from GRO?
Thank you for your video, very informative, I would just like to ask what you would do if you didn’t know the mothers maiden name
I just ordered a hard copy birth certificate for my grandfather. They now cost £11 in 2024. Almost doubled in price...
Thank you for sharing this, I had no idea it existed, and it looks to be really helpful. Many thanks for your time in explaining, and for showing how to navigate through etc. Absolutely brilliant.
This is pants. I've put in all the accurate details for my ancestors and all I get is no results and I know fine well they are there and I've not put in anything incorrectly. I changed the area in case wrong it still took none of it for a selection of people not their births or deaths nothing.
I had a similar issue for a relative that I knew existed. The GRO index had the E in the name mistranscribed as a C. So Petrie became Petric. Once you see the original document you can see why from the handwriting. This could be a possibility?
Thank you, really enjoyed.
Helpful thank you.
why are the 'deaths' only until 1957? I fail to see why this is an obvious reason for the government to hold back death records?
Can’t find the death of my grandmother. Tried GRO…..they have searched the years before and after the year I had been told. So….wrong year I suppose. Can I look up for possible Coroners reports? Three theories of here death, MVA, brain haemorrhage or suicide. Irish family don’t like to talk. She supposedly died in Leeds. A mystery
Thanks so much for this very interesting presentation!
Levi Harris' immigration - my interest in Wolverhampton is that my wife's family, the Browns, of Gollantsch in German Poland, lived there from at least 1888: members of the family still live there, many of them were buried in the old Cemetery, including her great-great-grandparents, Morris and Eva Brown. I know something about emigration from the area around Kretinga / Crottingen up to the 1890s, because my own family began leaving Mariampol in Lithuania for Sunderland, in 1870 (oddly enough, many Kretinga Jews left en masse for Sunderland in around 1889, following a disastrous fire). Before the opening of a port on the eastern Baltic coast at Liepaja / Libau in the early 1890s, to cope with the first wave of mass emigration from Eastern Europe, the only feasible route to England was overland from Lithuania, and via Hamburg. I have this on very good authority, from an academic researcher. In terms of names: up to around the middle of the 19th century, Jewish surnames were based on patronymics, as Hebrew names are ("son of...", "daughter of..."). Thus - and you only have my word for this, as someone who had a solid Jewish education, and has done a lot of genealogical research - the surnames Aarons, Hart, Harris, Lazarus...all of them except Cohen, which you correctly identified as relating to priestly status (claiming direct descent from Aaron, Moses' brother), are all anglicised versions of patronymics. I would suggest that the Aarons brothers may well have come here alone - the 1841 Census bizarrely rounds adult ages (down?) to the nearest 5 years: so, 20, 20, and 15 would not be accurate, and that their surname would have been their father's first name, in any case (confirmed by the Hebrew on Simon Aarons' gravestone). It was very common for young Jewish men who left Eastern Europe to arrive in their late teens or early 20s: the Aarons came here very, very early, but this is very typical. The Brown family of Wolverhampton also has a connection to Nice. Joseph Brown (born Sunderland, 1881; lived in Wolverhampton from 1888 until some time before 1935, when he was in Birmingham; made a fortune from building contracting - his father, Lazarus Brown, was in the decorating business, and his uncle, Morris Brown, was a glazier, both in Wolverhampton; he either separated from or divorced his first wife at some point - she was buried in Brighton in 1974; he then married the (British) widow of an Italian marchese in 1940 - she had left the family chateau in Nice when WW2 was about to start; and he died at the American Hospital in Nice in 1949, his last address being given as Chateau Bornala, Avenue de Bellets, Nice. I know this is a heck of a long message, but you did say as well that you were interested in the Brown family! I did a lot of research for my late father-in-law, who sadly died at the end of last year. He knew nothing about his father's parents, because his father had been orphaned at the aged of 5, in Manchester. His father's parents were called Henry Moscovitch, and Selma Brown: both are buried in Manchester. After his mother died, my wife's grandfather, so my father-in-law said, had been sent to his grandparents (who turned out to be Eva and Morris Brown) in Wolverhampton, which is where my research started. You've got another Zelma Brown in the Wolverhampton graveyard: she and her namesake are cousins, but also sisters-in-law, because the one in Wolverhampton married Isaac Brown, Selma's brother - and there is a whole story there. Isaac was widowed in his late 40s, in 1928, at a point when he had grown his father's glazing business, also through contracting, and through expanding into wallpaper shops and market stalls. He would send his brothers out to international trade fairs. At one of these, in Berlin, in 1935, one of the brothers met a German Jewish sales representative, whose family were desperate to leave. They hatched a plan, whereby Isaac might be persuaded to marry the representative's little sister, who was nearly 30 years younger, but ill with periodic TB, and thereby get the whole family out. The little sister didn't want this, but was told by her mother that she might not live for very long, but she had it in her power to save her family's lives. The marriage took place in Wolverhampton, at the Synagogue, in 1936, and I was told this story by their son, who was born two years later. If you're still doing this research, and want to know more, please feel free to get in touch.
Thank you Simon, this is fascinating, and I'd be happy to chat about it. You can get in touch with me via thesloaneage.com/contact/
Sound is poor.
Neustadt is never was part of Warsaw. It is a town in Lithuania also named Wladislawow, today it is Kudirkos Naumiestis. Tumpowsky family are residents of Wolverhampton also were from Wladislawow.
Thank you, this is fascinating (and sorry for the delay in replying!). It would appear there is a very strong Lithuanian connection to Wolverhampton. I had not researched the Tumpowskys as much, but they came up in a number of articles I found and I would love to know more.
Isaac Tumpowsky was a great uncle of actors brothers Swift- David and Clive. Isaac's father David Tumpowsky was many years President of jewish congregation in Wolverhampton, he went to Jerusalem in 1903 where he died in 1915.
The GRO don't let you search marriages?
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These records are available as PDFs to be emailed to you. "PDF's for historical digitised civil registration records held by GRO (birth entries from 1837 to 1919 and death entries from 1837 to 1957)" Other certificates including these are paper copies which are posted to you under normal circumstances.
Do not forget that although registration was introduced in 1837 it was not actually compulsory to register a birth until 1875 so you might be looking for a registration that does not exist.
can you please update! also on gov website is missing a lot of years, why is that?
If you mean those records that were digitalised then there was a project named DoVE (Digitisation of Vital Events), which was shelved in 2010. This was only partially completed, with marriage records not digitised. If you mean records actually missed off e.g. over 7,000 birth entries from volume 4A of the July-September quarter of 1881 had been duplicated in volume 3B, whilst over 5,000 entries that should have appeared in 3B were missing. There were up to 11,000 births missing from volume 11A in the October-December quarter of 1902. In the final quarter of 1860, 4,000 birth entries were missing from volume 6C and had been replaced by 3,000 duplicated entries from volume 4B in the April-June quarter. About 2,000 death records from volume 1C in the January-March quarter of 1863 were gone, and had been replaced by 4,500 records from volume 2C. As your question is not clear it is hard to answer precisely.
What if you dont know the persons your looking for? but just using your surname helps?
It might be easier to use this site first, www.freebmd.org.uk/ You can try searching with a surname on GRO but it can be laborius going through 5 years at a time. It helps reduce the results if you are able to add a maiden name for the mother and of course if you know where the event took place that reduces results as well. The FreeBMD site is more flexible to use to search.
The freebmd site has other advantages. Unlike the GRO it can be searched by Maiden name only....If you do not believe me ...Just try it.....Yes omit the surname.....This means that you can identify potential spouses/fathers.....These "possibles" can then be "tested" on a subsequent census etc....... Once you have the fathers surname .....you can search for other children.....or the marriage... but see later Then try leaving the year range blank......this might identify all/some of the siblings...... Again you can search by county, with no district The marriage probably took place a year or two prior to the birth of the first legitimate child Now move onto the marriage search.......Depending on how common the surname is........try leaving the first and last name of the spouse blank.......not hard if you do not have them........again this will identify potential spouses...to test In a lot of situations you will have the first name of the mother, but not her maiden name....perhaps from a christening......So enter the first and last name of the husband plus the first name of his wife.....and see the amazing results......to check out Why does this work ? (except for common names like Smith), well the mathematical odds are in your favour due to the large variation in surnames and first names, there will be a lot of John Smith=Mary Jones, but likely no other Alonzo Arbon=Hepzibah Dankworthy This means that you can now trace a female line almost as easy as a male line......so go to your tree.......find all females that you have not found the husband for......and give it a try.....if it fails it may indicate they did not marry, which is a clue in itself......if they appear in a census in their teens, but not in the following census with their parents - they may be in service and still single, living elswhere - but also might have got married.....or are deceased I find that the BMD search is even better on FindMyPast, but not sure if the search works if you do have an account. I always advise that you check out your findings on the GRO site .....it seems to give full middle names for the birth search, whilst other sites may just give an initial
This is excellent Andy, thank you for your work in this area and innovative use of technology to make the presentation available to a wide audience.
I'm pleased to say you & I work in almost exactly the same way, so I didn't actually learn anything new LOL One thing people need to bear in mind is that - if they've calculated the birth year from census age - they can easily be a year out. A person who is 30 years old in April 1881 _may_ have been born in 1851, but may also have been born in 1850...and that's provided the correct age is recorded on the census! Also remember that the GRO index dates are the date of registration. Somebody who is born or dies late in December may well not be registered until January. I had one instance where it appeared that a girl's mother had died the year before the girl was born. Her mother died in childbirth in December - the mother's death was registered in December, but the child's birth wasn't registered until January. (This caused some people to mistakenly ascribe the girl's step-mother as her birth mother, as her father remarried within a year)
Good advice, and as we know the names may have been spelt differently on numerous records.
I tried this but the GRO website has completely changed since you uploaded this video :(
Yes, it's changed - but not that much. You may have to just look around a bit to find things, but they're still there.
Yep same here ! can't seem to get a way into it without credit card registration etc
It has hardly changed so this video is still valuable to complement the instructions on the site.
@@Andy-lm2zp You do not need to give any card details to undertake a search. Just log in and go to "Search the GRO Indexes"