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I believe so, I use it for resin, gundam and all types of things including fdm

@@HobbyBench Thank you for the answer! Is there any specific trust worthy store you buy it from or just Amazon?

Sure we just need to figure out how to communicate the details so I can get it to you

It's been a while but I def got it on amazon

Should be 6 inch if I remember correctly

Only place is robotkai, and it needs to be pre-ordered when they are taking preorders. Best way is to hit the notify button on the coming soon page and preorder right when it's in stock. You will get it about a month or two later. Not ideal, but for whatever reason they haven't been able to produce these reliably since launching

Ya most of it is, it's well built. Still going strong today

No problem, I'll need to check but I'm 95% sure the exhaust tube uses a standard metal clamp connector and runs into the top of the filter. The filter is a huge cylinder of a cotton like filter material. Inside is 15-20 pounds of powdered carbon filter. The filter is rated to roughly 600cfm, and the air passes through the carbon filter medium through the top intake and out all of the cotton filter material second stage on all the sides of the cylinder. The airflow is unrestricted as the fans are rated around 600cfm and so is the filter, so you maintain negative pressure in the chamber. After the exhaust comes out of the cotton outer layer, according to canlite it's 99.9% filtered of VOCs. I've also done VOC testing and it seems that claim is correct. Canlites are mainly used by at home cannabis growers who are looking to avoid unwanted attention due to the potent scent of there grow tent exhaust. They basically run a grow tent into a canlite and it completely removes scent and vocs. I've also voc tested the bucket method and it does not work, it doesn't remove smells or vocs. It just moves the air to a different place.

So I just checked, it's a 6 inch exhaust tube secured by a metal clamp with screw tightening harness. If you look at 6:49 timestamp you can see in the top of the canlite, it has a metal aluminum intake where the exhaust is clamped onto. You can see the metal clamp itself at 29:03 with the exhaust hooked up for install reference.

@@HobbyBench thx a lot for the prompt reply man !!! 👍👍🙏🏻

@@HobbyBenchone last question if my spray booth has less CFM than the one you are showing. I guess I have the Ophir with 200 CFM if I am not wrong. Would it still be ok to run the exhaust through the 6” Can lite 600 CFM? I mean if the Can lite has a higher capacity than the booth fan is there any risk that air will come back to the booth. Again can’t thank you enough for the great info !! I was sure the bucket wouldn’t neutralize any solvent which I avoid using any in winter. Still I prefer a safer method like the filter you are showing and in both cases I always wear a respirator + I have an air purifier in my hobby room

@@Azantys I'd use the 4 inch canlite model as it's rated for 300-400cfm last I checked and the unit you have uses a 4 inch exhaust anyway. I also use a resp and have a good air filter (which does help). The 4 inch will have slightly less carbon but it should be fine with the lower cfm and it's still like 12 pounds

I have not but I'll check mine to see if there are any steps that could be missed, you have both the light and fan unit plugged in right

I used a knife to clean the hole up and enlargen it on the panel side and I ran the green foam tape around the panel. I put the panel on the foam and then screwed it in where needed. I can see if I got that part on video, let me know if you need more help.

The fan inside will work well on the kaizo x, run it into a 6 inch canlite exhaust intake

If your looking for a fan to push it outside you will need an explosion proof one with any of the clears typically, but it will kill the fumes into a canlite without external ventilation in my experience

@@HobbyBench that’s great. How are you pulling air into the canlite, as I saw you removed the inline fan?

Sorry are the fans on the Kaizo explosion proof?

@philipjensen6442 they aren't rated specifically to be but they aren't exposed either so they should be fine. As for the can lite, it's rated to 650cfm so you just hook your exhaust line from your kaizo x into it

It's much much better. The cheaper one started melting literally after 3 months of lacquer usage and a handful of projects. Worth the extra and much better build quality

Also getting the water out on the cheaper one is a nightmare because the plastic water bin is so thin it's impossible to move while filled and it's really awkward to lift off, and the clips break like crazy. O rings are not solvent resistant so the water curtain fell on my rx 78 pg u while I was finishing and ruined it out of no where. At this point I'm really unhappy with the cheap one and would recommend putting the extra funds up to go with the x

@@HobbyBench alright ill just wait then youve convcied me. I just got the pg unleashed as well and looking forward to cuatomizing it. Yeah i dont like that you have to pull off the wole booth to replace the water. Thanks for sharing your experience.

I agree although the actual assembly wasn't hard, removing all the plastic wrap took hours

Very good point on the bleach, I never thought of that. What would be an appropriate anti mold agent that doesn't react with lacquers. As for the black package it's just a standard lacquer cleaner, it's meant for cleaning off the stainless steel surfaces after painting

@@HobbyBench TLDR Really great video, thank you for taking the time to make it! My personal suggestion would be to look at water cooling or aquarium anti fungal additives. The benefit of water cooling is you can find variants that are safe for specific metals (The water pump for instance). Read the small print or write the companies. They should be able to tell you if it will work well. Since you need it to be safe with alcohol, you can't use bleach or vinegar due to the same problem of creating toxic fumes. Regarding the fumes I'd suggest considering to get a molecule measuring meter for voc's. They will totally remove the odor but they don't always remove all of the voc's from resin printing. Size and quality could make a difference for carbon filters but I'd rather know it is working correctly for indoor venting. I'd prefer to ventilate to the exterior for safety.

@FSDraconis thank you for the recommendations, all great. I did get a $1000 voc tester and did formal tests and this set up was effective at removing VOCs

No problem!

It's a really great unit, I've had 2 masters and the cheaper water curtain. I wasn't really 100% happy with them. None of them really sucked in enough air to counter the lacquer smells. (Imo the negative pressure in the kaizo x is key) The cheaper water curtain also had a lot of issues I go over in my latest assembly video with lacquer resistance overall. The innovation/invention fixed all those issues, literally leaves no scent when spraying inside into a carbon canlite and makes my entire airbrushing experience much better. It's my favorite airbrushing accessory for sure, followed by my ophir dryer oven.

Hey do you still have the other booth? I definitely wouldn't mind taking it off your hands.

Yes I have several of them, which one do you want and how can I reach you

I have two masters and the ophir water curtain. It does need new orings on the curtain, but I use gorilla tack for now and it works fine. OPHIR sent me replacements but I lose them, but I am sure they would send them to you if you emailed them. I will try to find them when we go home next week as well if that's the unit you want

Ya I'm uploading a assembly video soon, and I have quite a few shorts

Just added a few more

New assembly & review video published here - czcams.com/video/CE_e6wmsM8o/video.html

I'm really happy with it, it's miles above the cheaper plastic one, build quality is exceptional and it's got the strongest air suction of any airbooth I've tried due to its negative pressure setup. I actually need to be careful when I'm painting larger models that the overspray isn't sucked into the model lol. I think you will be very happy, but you may want to sub my channel as the installation is very difficult and it doesn't come with instructions. I made a video on putting it together, and I'll be posting it in the next week or two. I'd also recommend a carbon filter with 400cpm to vent into, and you can spray inside with no fume smells even with spray cans.

New assembly & review video published here - czcams.com/video/CE_e6wmsM8o/video.html

Gel is still going strong. I got two of them, and I haven't opened the second yet. Done prob 3-4 MG builds and a PG U and PG Transformer.

Also I got the Hobby Mio Vacuum and it's awesome!

Thanks for responding, I seen Dspiae's gel online I didn't know what it was for because Dspiae didn't make a video on how to use it. I think the gel that AutoZone sells is the same thing so I'll buy and use it.

@emilioaguirre1634 ya honestly it's the same gel that is included in some of my kids treasure x toys. It'd just a non stick gel that has a wet like feel

It's really good, I had to keep checking there website and eventually it let me preorder about a month and a half out from delivery. I think they restock in the beginning of the month but I'm not sure. They do have a email and sms notification system you can optin to on the product page to get an email when it's restocked

Here is proper can lite for the kaizo innovation x, make sure you do the 6 inch vent as it's not only the proper sized vent but has enough cfm to support fan system - amzn.to/3sWaXKk For the cheaper plastic water curtain model by kaizo or any of the Amazon variations, you would need to use the 4 inch but it would be slightly under cfm rating here - amzn.to/3sWaXKk

Also you wouldn't want to just attach it right to the fan since it's like 20 pounds, you would want to get a 4-10 feet length - 6 inch exhaust tube. Keep the tube as short as possible and try to prevent curves.

@@HobbyBench Ah I see - that thing is indeed industrious. I'll probably get that if/when I get into lacquer painting. For Acrylics (primarily ink) and Badger primer, I'd imagine a carbon filter will work fine? Do you see acrylics primarily dissolving in the waterfall?

@@FallenB1ade Ya you prob won't need it for acrylics. If you have a place to vent outside, just send it right outside without filtering. If you don't, you should be able to get away with venting into a 5 gal bucket with water or using a cheaper grow filter then a can lite. The can lite is good for filtering VOC's, and you usually don't have too much exposure with acrylics if any at all. The waterfall should collect most of it either way.

@@HobbyBench Sweet - thanks - I was just thinking of strapping a carbon filter to the end of the small tube attached to the fan.

I made a video on install I'll be posting soon, but my camera died in the last few minutes of assembly. I'll re-record that last part verbally to explain how I installed it, but to answer your question, the red tape is used to secure the clear pieces to the top and sides, but you won't have enough to cover the entire run so use the entire run for the overhang plastic and cut two small pieces to do the sides with whatever is left. Anything that isn't covered on the sides, use the foam 2m tape. Keep on mind because the panels are clear, you will need to secure the panels to each other using the red tape otherwise you would have white lines if you used the 2m tape. The red tape is also stronger, so I used the remaining tape to secure the top overhang to the unit. The benefit of the red tape is it sets clear, while the 2m is white foam. In the end, you will likely need to use a combo of both. Make sure to secure your side plates first, you may need to enlarge the holes slightly so it doesn't bulge where the screw hex heads are. Then lay the red tape all the way across the overhang, and use the remaining on the sides then switch to the 2m foam if you run out towards the bottoms. Put all the tape down first, then put the stainless steel removable piece in place. Check your sides don't hit into the stainless steel piece and use that as a guide for the bottom. I actually used some cheap tape to hold all 3 pieces together as one then set it onto the tape all at once.

@@HobbyBench Hey thanks for the detailed answer! I'm looking forward to the assembly video!

Hey - just wondering if you've got the chance to make that assembly video?

@@FallenB1ade I plan on posting it this weekend

@@HobbyBench Awesome!!

I'm very happy with it, and it's much better then the cheaper version (I have both). The cheaper version started to melt after 3 months of painting with lacquers, with the O-rings that hold the water curtain snapping and destroying my pgu rx78 paint job. After that, the left bar connectors broke away into dust at the connector. The more expensive one is made nearly entirely of metal and higher quality materials. The installation is a bit challenging, but I'm making a video on it. Overall it's worth upgrading as the price isn't that much more with the level of quality materials.

@@HobbyBench thanks man I appreciate it i already made up my mind:) I will be getting it (newer one) lol place a pre order at robot kai ! ,thanks again

​@@michaeltana4706 You wont regret it! I really enjoy mine and its the first unit that i feel actually pulls in fumes correctly due to the negative pressure setup. Take a look at my other short on how to vent the exhaust into a canlite carbon filter, those two combined make for a perfect set up if you have the budget. It will also work with a 5 gal bucket of water and i show how to do that as well.

New assembly & review video published here - czcams.com/video/CE_e6wmsM8o/video.html

I just posted a short on how to vent these type of units. To sum it up, you can go the budget way and vent into a 5 gal bucket full of water. You will need to cut a 4 inch Circular hole and install a port and add vent holes to the 5 gal lid. The better way, is to buy something like a can-lite filter, or any similar virgin activated carbon exhaust filters. They are basically intakes full of activated carbon and that will clean 98% of VOCs and fumes. Amazon has some cheaper types of carbon exhausts, you just want to make sure it has at least a few pounds of carbon. (check weight on Amazon of item) This is the one I got since I now use the upgraded kaizo water curtain which has a 6 inch duct instead of 4 inch, but they have both on this page. amzn.to/45w3vUj You may still need to use the 6 inch because you may need at least 300cfm for either water curtain fan. Also the 6 inch one has 18 pounds of carbon, vs like 4 pounds in the 4 inch one

Here is the yt short that shows both set ups, czcams.com/users/shortsn1N8OyRlQfA?si=FmjGt1bGcPDLUQ-p

New assembly & review video published here, includes a few sections on venting the unit - czcams.com/video/CE_e6wmsM8o/video.html

Hey, I have a concrete garage so I started out venting into a 5 gal button full of water with a lid and vent holes. I am working on an exhaust system in my garage that goes through the ceiling to outside, but that's still very early. One thing I want to note now I've had the unit for several months, is some of the unit's parts are not solvent resistant. That caused the orings that hold the water curtain to fail, causing it to drop on a bunch of parts I was printing which was a nightmare. The LED bar connector also broke due to solvents breaking the plastic down. The company, OPHIR, has been responsive and sent me replacements at no cost, but I did also buy the Robot Kai Innovation X, although it has not arrived yet. I'll likely give my old one away in a contest. Overall I would still recommend the unit, just keep this in mind to control your lacquer/solvents.

Video on how to vent these units, czcams.com/users/shortsn1N8OyRlQfA?si=FmjGt1bGcPDLUQ-p

No I don't mind, I'll post a printables here when I get a few this week

Here is the files for self printing. Feel free to use them non-commercially however you would like and let me know if you need an changes for your specific airbrush. They should work for most airbrushes.

www.printables.com/model/446221-custom-airbrush-holder-racks-for-kaizo-es600-water

I plan on making a video shortly, it's made by OPHIR (who also makes the water curtain spray booth) and sold on Amazon. Here is a link, amzn.to/3Yp6GJm It seems to be out of stock for the next 30-60 days, but it works very well overall.

Hey, they have the most powerful fans I've seen in consumer level spray booths. Something like 380cfm with triple fans. The exhaust can be routed outside or into a 5 gal bucket full of water. I've done some voc testing with the 5 gal setup and found no noticeable levels of VOCs being leaked

Also, the easiest way to start is literally to just do it even if your spraying spoons, it gets much easier from there. I recently restarted myself, a good starting airbrush is the mr creos line

That’s really hold to know man! Thanks for the info. I’m in the process of building a new house office and it seems this is the one in getting for sure!

@@HobbyBench can you do a quick overview of the whole airbrush setup including the water bucket? Thanks!

Sure, I have a newborn so things are slow right now with content and I have a ton of content for my business I've had to shoot over the last 2 weeks. I will try to make some more content this weekend, including a better overview. Barbatos Rex has a good walk through on this system you can review in the meantime, although I have a bit more of a complex setup.

I made them myself in shapr3d, just finished the V2. If you have a 3d printer I can send you the files, or I can make some for you if you want to buy from my etsy store. Once it's done with testing I'll share a link with you here

Here are the holders, www.printables.com/model/446221-custom-airbrush-holder-racks-for-kaizo-es600-water If you need me to print them for you, lmk!

I'll put a star destroyer in there when I get a chance to show you the scale

I did do VOC testing with an expensive meter, and found 0 VOC's leaking with the carbon filter and the Innovation unit. I did not do it on video though and I returned the VOC meter. I am posting a longer video of the unit today I've worked on over the past few months

@@HobbyBench Good Day, 'Anthony'.... hoping you had a Great Thanksgiving!!! Thanks for getting that VOC testing done, was a bit curious about that, since ( at the time ) was wondering how fumes/overspray, etc... was going to go. But, when I was mentioning about THIS specific spray booth, wife was not too happy about the " water " part, though I tried to explain to her that there is a reservoir that can be emptied out once finished, but wasn't convinced. So, I did purchase a different type of booth...I think a good one, with dual fan, but I use that outside and have to set up Each Time I want to spray... Wondering.....were you selling those airbrush holders that you place on the side of YOUR booth?? Is there a certain dimension(s) that is needed for set up on the side??

@Hey_MikeZeroEcho22P I can sell you one if you don't have a 3d printer, but I published the stls for free on printables.com

@Hey_MikeZeroEcho22P as for dimensions, it should fit most booths, when I get home next Monday I'll try to get you the dimensions or you can download the stl and measure it directly

Sorry ill make a better video, if you mean the connector that flooded the workstation, its the grey T connector at the top of the water curtain that pumps the water up. If you mean the connector i used in the 5 gal bucket, I put a 4 inch ac flange duct in from the bottom of the 5gal bucket cover. I used a 4 inch Circular drill bit to make the hole, then secured it with a tube metal connector. Here is the flange I used - amzn.to/3EurFmH I started doing testing with the VOC meter and have been unable to detect any VOCs when spraying using this method and an auxiliary fan inline to the 5 gal bucket. I'll continue to do more testing as I was very surprised to find no VOCs reaching me when sitting stationary. I'll also put the meter at the exhaust when I get to it

It shouldn't damage them, but I believe the effect is relatively short term just to keep the item dust free before airbrushing. The same type of spray is used for automotive painting prep work

Awesome thank you